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Posted by: Mister Oragahn Apr 8th 2005, 6:24 AM
Thus far, that's it. We know that Joe was written an episode which is called Epiphany.
http://gateworld.net/news/2005/04/flaniganonseasontwochallen.shtml.
I wonder how good he is as a writer. Of course, his script will probably be tweaked, but the premise has to be good at least.
Posted by: Col.CameronMitchell Apr 8th 2005, 7:12 AM
Well Joe has been getting really into this, so its no surprise he's started writing some. I predict that it'll be a good show, he might get some help, but hey its his writen show!
Posted by: Dracodian Stonewall Apr 8th 2005, 10:34 AM
we will have to wait and see how it plays out. but I see good things coming from Him.
Posted by: Christy Apr 9th 2005, 3:05 AM
I'm glad to hear that Joe has written an episode for Atlantis...I remember an episode where Michael Shanks wrote the script and Amanda Tapping directed it for SG-1.
I think it's really good when they do these things.
Posted by: Sighfienerd Apr 9th 2005, 9:45 PM
I read the interview and Joe Flanigan sounds like a very intelligent, well-read guy. Thoughtful. Now I'm really interested in seeing this episode, especially since he was being so secretive about it.
Ben Browder wrote one for Farscape and I was pleasantly surprised at its' complexity. Nice to know Ben and Joe aren't just pretty faces.
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 12th 2005, 5:26 AM
According to Joe Mallozzi at Gateworld, Joe Flanigan isn't actually writing the script for Epiphany at all.
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Originally Posted by JMallozzi
Yup. For starters, check out an episode titled Epiphany, written by Brad Wright.
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Originally Posted by Whistler
Sorry to pick apart Joe's answer, but I was under the impression that Epiphany was the working title of the episode written by Joe Flannigan. Of course it may have been rewritten/modified by Brad.
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Originally Posted by Wass
In another question Joe mentioned that others writers have hand in writing episodes which they don?t even get credited for. IMHO it could be that JF wrote the episode and Brad put some final finishing touches to it.
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Originally Posted by JMallozzi
No. The script has not been written and when it is written, it will be written by Brad Wright
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Originally Posted by JMallozzi
I believe the interviewer misheard Joe or what Joe meant to say was that he scripted a draft of the outline for Epiphany. A) The episode has yet to be written and

It will be written by Brad Wright
Posted by: Sighfienerd Apr 12th 2005, 8:38 AM
That's just weird. JamesBHOY - did those interviews have a date? The interview with Joe Flanigan in which he states that he is writing Epiphany is dated April 4th.
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Flanigan also said that the episode he has written is in fact on the production slate for this season. The working title is "Epiphany.
From a Gateworld article dated April 7th.
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ME: Oh, now. Are you going to be one of those actors over there who eventually writes and directs episodes?
JF: Probably one of those. Actually, I have written an episode they?re doing for this season.
ME: Title?
JF: Well, the working title is ?Epiphany.?
ME: Any chance you?ll tell me what it?s about?
JF: No.
From About.com dated April 4th
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 12th 2005, 11:15 AM
Yeah, It was dated 9th April at 12.54pm. It 's at the top currently, So if by the time anyone reads this & more people have posted then it may have gone back a page, So simply in the link below look for the date 9th April @ 12:54pm to find it quickly.
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Originally Posted by JMallozzi
No. The script has not been written and when it is written, it will be written by Brad Wright
http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?p=440759&highlight;=aurora
Posted by: Mister Oragahn Apr 12th 2005, 11:28 AM
Ah. Crap (with scottish accent).
So much for the thread's title.
Posted by: Sighfienerd Apr 12th 2005, 3:47 PM
Sounds like Joe actually wrote it from the About.com article. Also sounds like it was subsequently scrapped by Malozzi and company.
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 12th 2005, 4:49 PM
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I believe the interviewer misheard Joe or what Joe meant to say was that he scripted a draft of the outline for Epiphany
It sounds like came up with the ideas, scenarios that were to go into Epiphany. Basically what the episode was to be all about. Since it was only a draft, I doubt they put a majority of it in unless it was a really good draft. However he must have asked them himself or been asked to come up with one. So to keep him happy as he's probably the shows main character they will put some of it in.
Posted by: Christy Apr 14th 2005, 5:57 AM
that's crap...i'm having different thoughts about these writers now because you can't have two conflicting stories like these
Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 14th 2005, 6:18 AM
Look at how far into SG1 that the cast started to get involved in story writing and episode direction. The cast of Atlantis is still relatively new, maybe the TPTB on Atlantis want them to concentrate on acting for the moment. Personally i would prefer the writers to continue the stories and set the basis for Atlantis then allow the cast to write and direct episodes in later seasons.
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 26th 2005, 3:09 PM
First info released regarding 'Epiphany' Contains spoilers of what the episode is about.
Click for Spoiler
Thanks to morjana for the rough German translation.
Brief summary:
Rough English translation:
Think SG-1's "Paradise Lost," only in this version its Sheppard solo. He walks through the SGA Stargate and arrives on a planet alone. A year goes by...and then Dr. McKay arrives. Only for Dr. McKay, it's only been a few seconds.
More information (also rough English translation from German):
The Atlantis team with Colonel John Sheppard is set to explore a new planet and Sheppard leaves through the Stargate first - closely followed from McKay. When Sheppard arrives through the planetary Stargate, he waits on the other side. But nobody else comes through the activated gate...
Time passes and Sheppard takes on the job as a kind Sheriff in a nearby city. One year has passed, nobody else came through the Stargate and the Stargate is still active. Then suddenly McKay comes through the star gate and Sheppard asks McKay immediately, why was there a delay for McKay. But for McKay only few seconds passed - completely contrary to Sheppard.
For the two it becomes clear that the time on this planet runs totally differently than in Atlantis and it is shown that the Ancients visited the planet. And the current inhabitants of the planet are Ancients, who were not able to ascend or did not want it.
How can McKay and Sheppard escape this planet if the Stargate remains active by the time distortion for several hundreds, if not even thousands, of years - and will the Ancients help?
Posted by: Mister Oragahn Apr 26th 2005, 4:04 PM
Wow, another cool episode. I love those "technical problem" episode (like 38 minutes).
Posted by: Stargate Master Jun 10th 2005, 1:57 AM
Here is some more information for the "Epiphany" episode just posted from Gateworld:
WARNING: Spoilers Below
"We came up with an idea where I get stuck on a planet that has a different time ratio, and I actually age faster," Flanigan revealed. "I go through the threshold and I'm waiting for McKay and the rest of the team to go through, and they don't come through. And a year goes by and I'm stuck on this planet with these other people, and I've got a beard and everything else and I've become sort of the de facto sheriff.
"And McKay shows up and only five minutes has gone by in his world. And, of course, I say, 'Where the hell have you been?' And he says, 'What are you talking about? It's only been five minutes.'
"And it's a planet of people who are going to ascend. And the Ancients went onto this planet and to get away from the Wraith they put it under a different time dilation device, a different time ratio, and they ascended. And there's a group of people who weren't capable of ascending, and those are the people we deal with."
"Epiphany" wasn't the first idea that Flanigan pitched to the show's producers. "I had an idea for 'The Man Who Would Be King,'" the actor said. "It was me and McKay discovering Z.P.M.s and becoming greedy and kind of drunk with power. And I thought that that would make for a great episode. And I got the standard reply that I always get when I pitch a story, which is, 'Oh, we did that on SG-1, Joe. Episode 157 ... haven't you seen it?'
"And so we had to come up with an episode that obviously hadn't been done, which is very difficult because Stargate has been on the air for a few thousand years."
Executive producer Brad Wright is writing the teleplay for "Epiphany," which is expected to go before cameras shortly after the cast and crew return from their summer hiatus in July. The episode will likely air in January on The SCI FI Channel.
Original Article, http://www.gateworld.net/news/2005/06/flaniganrevealsepiphanysto.shtml
Posted by: dr lee Jun 10th 2005, 11:38 AM
i read a fanfic once that had a very similar plot.
sg1 left a planet but jack and sam were left behind.
teal'c and daniel spent about an hour trying to return before they could but jack and sam were on the planet for several years thus producing a few kids and a WHOLE load of problems when they returned.
sound similar?
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 20th 2005, 7:11 PM
Some revealing spoilers just released from GW today regarding 'Epiphany.'
Click for Spoiler
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As previously reported, Colonel John Sheppard finds himself pulled through a portal to a planet where time passes much more slowly, so that a year for him is only a matter of minutes for the rest of his team on the other side (story). There John encounters "the Cloister," a group of people who believe he has arrived to help them ascend to a higher plane of existence.
The people here are apparently descendents of the Ancients, and each possess special powers. Teer, a beautiful woman in her 30s, has clairvoyance. Young Hedda possesses the Ancient healing ability. Their mother possessed telekinesis before her ascension. Teer tells Sheppard that it is not uncommon for such abilities to manifest in those who are on the path toward ascension.
But all is not flowers and ascension in the Cloister. Beyond there is a wilderness where a creature lives. Teer and her siblings fear the creature, knowing it only as the Beast. Sheppard barely escapes with his life when he first arrives, and later takes on the Beast again without success.
Dr. Weir also gets in on the action in the episode, attempting to translate alien writing around the portal that took Sheppard.
Sheppard wishes to leave the Cloister, but the inhabitants assure him that there is no way to do so -- other than to ascend. They must all do so simultaneously so as not to leave anyone behind, and Teer believes that she knows what is preventing them: The Beast must be defeated.
Guest characters include Teer, Avrid (a young man), and Hedda (a young teenage girl who develops a crush on Sheppard).
"Epiphany" will go before cameras in mid-July, following the show's hiatus.
Posted by: Lagger Aug 11th 2005, 5:29 AM
Lolz...
wonder what this beast is....
and will he still ahve his p90, and c4.... how hard could it be
Posted by: ted_simple Aug 11th 2005, 5:54 AM
Sounds huge. Wow, I'm looking forward to the later season 2. On a side note, I dislike how they're messing up time spans again...
If the Ancients left 10,000 years ago, and 5 minutes equal one year under the time dilation, since then 1 billion years have passed on the planet. I hope they'll give an explanation why that is not so!
One billion years, until Sheppard, the Sheriff, the Messias arrives.
Posted by: Stargate Master Aug 11th 2005, 12:35 PM
This beast sounds great. See......these are the episodes I love, action, big monsters and more action. Can't wait for this episode.
Posted by: commander Aug 16th 2005, 4:14 AM
i found the first released picture from this episode on www.stargate-project.de
Attached image(s)
Posted by: Stargate Master Aug 16th 2005, 7:41 AM
Nice pic commander, looks interesting.
Posted by: Asher Sep 8th 2005, 4:57 AM
QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ Jun 21st 2005, 10:11 AM)
Some revealing spoilers just released from GW today regarding 'Epiphany.'
Click for Spoiler
imagine if these ancients help shep learn special powers like the healing power or moving stuff with his mind

how cool would that be???
Posted by: Stargate Master Sep 10th 2005, 2:10 PM
QUOTE(Asher @ Sep 8th 2005, 10:57 AM)
imagine if these ancients help shep learn special powers like the healing power or moving stuff with his mind

how cool would that be???
Not very cool in my opinion. It would be too much like the "Maternal Instinct" story SG-1 had which I assume is what your talking about.
Posted by: Cindy Sep 11th 2005, 12:01 AM
QUOTE(dr lee @ Jun 11th 2005, 3:08 AM)
i read a fanfic once that had a very similar plot.
sg1 left a planet but jack and sam were left behind.
teal'c and daniel spent about an hour trying to return before they could but jack and sam were on the planet for several years thus producing a few kids and a WHOLE load of problems when they returned.
sound similar?
Where did you read that? Can you tell me, please?
Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 11th 2005, 11:15 AM
First photos recieved by GateWorld for "Epiphany".
Click in spoiler tag to view:
Click for Spoiler
Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 11th 2005, 4:13 PM
Hey that is the house that Cam was keep in Sodan episode.
That woman looks like a wraith for some reason.
Posted by: ha'tak Oct 11th 2005, 4:39 PM
It does but then again TPTB have been known to reuse sets from now and again
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