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Stargate Information Archive _ Atlantis Spoiler Archive _ Episode 209 - "Aurora"

Posted by: Stargate Atlantis freak Apr 10th 2005, 2:52 PM

OMG, OMG, OMG!!!!!

QUOTE
NEW!? April 8 ?? Might we see an? Ancient war ship in Season Two? "An Ancient ship. Hmmmm. Do you think they'd call? it Aurora?"
(SG-1 executive producer Joseph Mallozzi, in a message at? GateWorld Forum)

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Apr 11th 2005, 12:51 AM

*hearing you - omg omg omg*

Can this be too good to be true??
An Ancient War Ship???

This is making me think that the BIG D is gonna die pretty soon into the season if we are seeing a ancient war ship. I mean - a bit too soon in the shows history for a "fleet" dont you think?

Posted by: ancient01 Apr 11th 2005, 5:59 AM

Hmmm... The Aurora is rumored to be a top secret US program, possibly an aircraft. That fits...

Posted by: AAFN Apr 11th 2005, 7:16 AM

Is this from Atlantis, or is it from Stargate galaxy?

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 11th 2005, 3:13 PM

If it is true then that guy really loves the spoilers or he is taking the P##s. Surely they wouldn't put anything out about that months before the second season starts.

Posted by: Felger Apr 11th 2005, 3:28 PM

It is strange but most of the time he simply says ?It?s possible? and states he?s ?just kidding? if something isn?t genuine or meant in jest. He obviously knows that fans will believe almost anything he says and seems to be a cautious individual because of that, Monsieur Mallozzi is no idiot when it comes to this front.

He may simply be starting to reel in the audience early this year, giving spoilers to ensure people are compelled to watch the episode to get definitive answers. Mind you he does seem to like jokes so it could be false.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 11th 2005, 3:52 PM

I think he's at it. It will not only bring in regular Atlantis & new fans but also SG-1 fanatics who are really into the whole ancients stuff. You can see him giving small bits away to tickle the viewers tastebuds. Certainly not an ancient warship + even a name along with it, That's a huge piece of info to give away & if there were plans for this to be introduced then surely it's something you would want to wow everyone with. Like at the end of ' The Lost City II' where doom seems inevitable then they get the ancient outpost & use the drones to save the day. So if there is any truth in it at all & the episode is titled the same as the ship, then I can only see them perhaps coming across one on an away mission that has been totally destroyed & is unrepairable. They could salvage parts & information as such from it.

Don't get me wrong I think it'd be great to seem them have their own ancient warship & start to kick Wraith butt. Just if it happened this early in the shows lifespan then i'd fear for it's future.


Posted by: avatar28 Apr 11th 2005, 8:11 PM

As long as they still have the Daedalus at that time, a wrecked ship would be fine I think. I suppose if maybe it were not completely wrecked but not in good enough condition for them to fly around obliterating their enemies it might be okay too though.

Posted by: Mister Oragahn Apr 12th 2005, 11:30 AM

Please let this ancient vessel be beautiful, not looking like a biased cut pipe.

Posted by: MYOB Apr 22nd 2005, 11:08 PM

QUOTE(ancient01 @ Apr 11th 2005, 5:59 AM)
Hmmm...  The Aurora is rumored to be a top secret US program, possibly an aircraft.  That fits...
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From any number of conspiracy theory websites the Aurora was alleged to be an experimental stealth fighter-bomber capable of mach 6, high altitude, and was supposed to be the replacement for the SR-71 Blackbird. The aircraft would cruise at Mach 5 (3,350 mph) speed at a maximum altitude of about 100,000 feet.

From my study of anti-gravity technology some of the B-2 stealth bomber's features are allegedly being added to the aurora such as it's use of super-high voltage along the wingspan to create a 'force-field-like' effect which deflects molecules. The super-high voltages when combined with a number of other features gives it additional lift essentially allowing the plane to fly through the air resembling more so a boat on water rather than like a submarine swimming through the sea. No friction, no heat, greater speed, and greatly decreased fuel consumption since it can now go faster and farther with less fuel.

The mission of the Aurora is supposed to allow very quick response times to bombing needs. Allowing less time for enemy defenses to react once a moving targe on the ground is found and tracked. If you know you need to get something in the air and dropping a payload in a matter of minutes before the target makes it to an underground, or cave-like base, the aurora would suit those needs.

In either case it's safe to say that the writers are borrowing some of the rumored aspects of the aurora for the ancient equivalent, should it be the case that they are going to discover an ancient war ship.

MYOB'
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Posted by: MYOB Apr 22nd 2005, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(Mister Oragahn @ Apr 12th 2005, 11:30 AM)
Please let this ancient vessel be beautiful, not looking like a biased cut pipe.
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Long and sleek with a look that resembles the SR-71 Blackbird.

Here's what the SR-71 looks like.
http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/sr-71~1.htm
In most cases almost everyone has seen one since the SR-71 is thought to be the coolest looking plane ever made.
The X-Men movies incorporated one as the plane that the X-Men used to fly in?

MYOB'
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Posted by: JamesyBHOY Apr 23rd 2005, 9:24 AM

Damn, I forgot all about that, I love reading about all that Black ops & Black Project stuff, So can't believe I missed about the US supposedly having one. I found the link before christmas. Should have seen the connection sooner Doh!

user posted image

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/aurora.html

So if the pic is anything to go by, then an Ancient souped up model will probably resemble the ship from X-men 2. Although I seriously can't see them finding a perfectly working ship this early into the shows history. Still it's be really cool to see them get one but it'll be in pieces or so badly damaged it would take them many years to study it & get it working. They will end up pulling a few valuable technological advancements from the damaged database, Something to do with the Shields,Drones or Zpm's. Hope I'm wrong & they get a fully working version to blow up some Wraith butt in, Can't see it happening though!

Posted by: avatar28 Apr 23rd 2005, 3:51 PM

Click for Spoiler

Posted by: Auntie Em! Apr 23rd 2005, 4:14 PM

James that ship looks kinda like the Canadian Avro Air (sp?) that the American forced us to stop producing way back.

Posted by: glitterboy2098 May 1st 2005, 7:36 PM

an Aurora is also illumination via radiation hitting the magnetosphere, so you might be premature in calling an episode named such to be about an ancients warship. (and the "Aurora project" [such as that plane] is bunk, the military code name Aurora was for the stealth bomber design compitition.)

Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 1st 2005, 9:29 PM

QUOTE(glitterboy2098 @ May 2nd 2005, 1:36 AM)
an Aurora is also illumination via radiation hitting the magnetosphere, so you might be premature in calling an episode named such to be about an ancients warship. (and the "Aurora project" [such as that plane] is bunk, the military code name Aurora was for the stealth bomber design compitition.)
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Joseph Mallozzi when asked a question about will there be any Ancient Warships seen in season 2, then he replied about it being called Aurora. So he could be lying & instead we'll see Shep's team on some backwards planet watching the Pegasus equivelant of the Northern Lights. I can hear everybody falling over themselves in anticipation already.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southerncounties/community/strange_south/spy_plane/story.shtml

So because a project codename for another plane was the same it's all crap. Tell me exactly how do you know this for sure. Do you personally work in Groom Lake or know of a high ranking military official that told you about all their black projects. The New York Times, Jane's Defense Weekly and the US magazine Aviation Week have all reported that the aircraft exists. So is it not entirely possible that 2 seperate projects could have the same Name or is that too much of an impossibility for you to comprehend.

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke May 2nd 2005, 1:46 AM

You know what guys - its a tv show - it wouldnt matter if they got the name from sesame street.

Imagine the Big D and aurora going side by side against a wraith armada.
they could do entire episodes about the seperate exploits of the two vessles of destruction.

Caldwell: Aurora this is Daedalus...we are having some problems negotiating the Gennii to surrender - our Asgard beam doesnt penetrate that far underground - request assistance....over"
Everett?: Daedalus this is Aurora...we wont have too much trouble liberating this world from 4 wraith hives soooooo.....I reckon we'll be there to help with the Gennii situation in approximately 20mins...over"Gennii World. KABOOM BANG CRASH!

Gennii commander: Ok Ok we surrender - we aknowledge atlantis to be in the right hands and we will give back the C4 we stole.he he he he ha ha ha ha ha 1.gif

Posted by: Wooooo May 2nd 2005, 3:49 PM

It would appear that all this speculation about the Aurora being an ancient ship has infact been answered over on gateworld...

QUOTE
NEW!  April 25 ? "Yes, the Aurora is a big Ancient ship."
(Stargate writer Martin Gero, in a message at GateWorld Forum)


Short and sweet huh?

Posted by: ray243 May 13th 2005, 3:00 AM

maybe the next ship should be levitain...the ship protecting alantis...

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke May 13th 2005, 6:36 PM

As I have said before in the "Ancient Battleship" thread - the Aurora - I think - will be about the size of a HATAK.

This is based on the Deadalus being much much much bigger than the Promethius and the Promethius was about the size of a HATAK.

When Gero said "The Aurora is a big Ancient shuip - medium I guess". It sounded to me like the "medium bit" was like an afterthought.

Perhaps the scale in the Pegasus Galaxy goes like this. PEGASUS CRAFT are in green and MILKY WAY CRAFT are in blue.

Hive Ship - about size of Daedalus
Aurora - about size of Promethius
Wraith Cruiser - about size of 2 Alkesh
Dart and PJ - smaller than 302 and Gliders.


Posted by: Atlantians May 13th 2005, 7:25 PM

The Daudalus is not much larger then the Prometheus. He said larger, not MUCH MUCH MUCH larger. huh.gif

It probably will not be a noticable diference in size.

Hive Ship - about size of Daedalus(I HIGHLY doupt that)
Aurora - about size of Promethius(maby... i doupt it though)
Wraith Cruiser - about size of 2 Alkesh(they looked much bigger then that)
Dart and PJ - smaller than 302 and Gliders.(PJs and Darts are bigger actually, wing span does not indicate size.

Posted by: Mister Oragahn May 14th 2005, 2:09 PM

QUOTE(MYOB @ Apr 22nd 2005, 11:19 PM)
Long and sleek with a look that resembles the SR-71 Blackbird.

Here's what the SR-71 looks like.
http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/sr-71~1.htm
In most cases almost everyone has seen one since the SR-71 is thought to be the coolest looking plane ever made.
The X-Men movies incorporated one as the plane that the X-Men used to fly in?

MYOB'
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Yes and no. The design is one of the coolest ever made, but if it gets whitish/greyish, or even chromed, it will look too much like those recent Naboo ships from Star Wars (which the first one - the best one - was inspired by the Blackbird).

Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 14th 2005, 2:59 PM

QUOTE(Atlantians @ May 14th 2005, 1:25 AM)
The Daudalus is not much larger then the Prometheus. He said larger, not MUCH MUCH MUCH larger. huh.gif
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His exact words for the Daedalus whistling.gif were

"She?s quite bigger and has a unique look, yes."

So quite bigger can be anything for all you or I know, After all it depends on his own personal definition of the word 'quite'.

Posted by: Mister Oragahn May 15th 2005, 5:38 AM

Well, that's weird because the blueprints shots of the Daedalus in that S8 episode seemed to look like a Prometheus seen from above.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 15th 2005, 8:11 AM

Apparently the schematic that was in Moebius was not the finished design. They had filmed Moebius when they hadn't had a final configuration in mind for Daedalus yet. They are supposed to be almost 2 entirely different ships not only with more advanced tech but also in that it'll be bigger & far more sleeker with her own unique design.

Posted by: Dafmeister May 15th 2005, 10:44 AM

QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ May 15th 2005, 2:11 PM)
Apparently the schematic that was in Moebius was not the finished design. They had filmed Moebius when they hadn't had a final configuration in mind for Daedalus yet. They are supposed to be almost 2 entirely different ships not only with more advanced tech but also in that it'll be bigger & far more sleeker with her own unique design.
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That seems a hell of a cock up. They didnt really have to mention the Daedalus in 'Moebius'.
Perhaps they put those schematic for the Daedalus in 'Moebius' so that we would be suprised by what the Daedalus really looks like. The only thing is that McKay has also called it the Prometheus' sister ship. That would mean it has to be the same design as the Prometheus.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 15th 2005, 1:09 PM

I thought so too when I originally saw the schematic in Moebius. Then after hearing McKay say in 'The Siege II' that it was the sistership. I thought that basically same ship but a couple of bits more extra tech integrated into it.

However Martin Gero said it will be Quite Bigger & have a unique design.

Then I stumbled across another http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=11527&page;=2&pp;=20&highlight;=Daedalus talking about the differences between Prometheus & Daedalus, It was mostly people swinging in the dark like we do here when nothing has been confirmed for definite. Then one of the mods came along & said they had already seen it. Here's a Direct quote from his post.

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The two ships will be almost entirely different. The opening of Moebius was filmed before the Daedalus' configuration was locked down - or even sketched, probably. GateWorld saw the art work and some of the pre-vis stuff and she is absolutely incredible. Sleek as all get-out.


Normally I wouldn't believe it until I see for myself, but seeing the writers post regularly & Ford even popped in the other day to post. Also that it came from one of their top guys then if they've already seen the artwork for it then they'd be n the best position to give away a few tidbits about it.

Posted by: dragon6 May 15th 2005, 5:25 PM

QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ May 15th 2005, 10:09 AM)
I thought so too when I originally saw the schematic in Moebius. Then after hearing McKay say in 'The Siege II' that it was the sistership. I thought that basically same ship but a couple of bits more extra tech integrated into it.

However Martin Gero said it will be Quite Bigger & have a unique design.

Then I stumbled across another http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=11527&page;=2&pp;=20&highlight;=Daedalus talking about the differences between Prometheus & Daedalus, It was mostly people swinging in the dark like we do here when nothing has been confirmed for definite. Then one of the mods came along & said they had already seen it. Here's a Direct quote from his post.
Normally I wouldn't believe it until I see for myself, but seeing the writers post regularly & Ford even popped in the other day to post. Also that it came from one of their top guys then if they've already seen the artwork for it then they'd be n the best position to give away a few tidbits about it.
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Attached image(s)

Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 15th 2005, 5:35 PM

Already seen it on Gateworld.

http://forum.gateworld.net/showthread.php?t=11775

The text that accompanied it were;

QUOTE
This is an artists rendering of the daedalus. I do not know how accurate it is, but it is nice to look at. Too bad it is not an actual picture of a model.


Martin Gero the writer has said it's going to be more of a unique design than Prommie. So if it's anything then it's a sketch of Prometheus done by a fan or what they'd imagine or like it to look like.

Can't see one of the shows writers & guys at Gateworld who have actually seen the Artwork for Daedalus & not noticing the exact same striking resemblence to Prometheus.

Posted by: Salixstar Jun 4th 2005, 3:22 PM

i cant remember where (on gateworld but not sure where)
sum 1 (not sure who but some 1 high up says)
aurora on atlantis mmmm not exactly (or sumen to that effect)

this to me inplys atlantis is aurora aurora is its atlantian name
this is prolly jst wild speculation but atlantis is a ship so who nows...

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 4th 2005, 3:35 PM

Aurora is an Ancient ship, this has already been known for a fair while now. When they come across it the ship will be full of Ancients.

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Jun 4th 2005, 10:56 PM

QUOTE
When they come across it the ship will be full of Ancients.


Ha ha ha ha ha ha - You Wish!!!!!

I think they will find it drifting hopelessly in space while zooming around on the Daedalus..and decide to take a look inside - via the beam tecnology.
Although it will be a "big Ancient Ship" so I guess we could take a 302 and dock with it.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 5th 2005, 4:55 AM

QUOTE(Aussie_Bloke @ Jun 5th 2005, 4:56 AM)
Ha ha ha ha ha ha - You Wish!!!!!

I think they will find it drifting hopelessly in space while zooming around on the Daedalus..and decide to take a look inside - via the beam tecnology.
Although it will be a "big Ancient Ship" so I guess we could take a 302 and dock with it.
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Seriously, here is the Info that says it!

QUOTE
NEW!  May 27 - "Our heroes come across ship called the Aurora, and it's full of Ancients."
(Director Martin Wood, in an interview with TV Zone magazine [#190])



Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Jun 5th 2005, 6:10 AM

Oh...........My..............God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry I diddnt see that............WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is the greatest! Maybe they will see our advanced ship (Daedalus) and recognise that we can get this war going again - this time our way!!!!

You guys reckon they are all in stasis pods or something??? I reckon that the last thing they will remember is that Atlantis was under attack - and they made a blind jump into space.......went to sleep and never woke up - till now....WOW!

They will return to Atlantis and say - damn you guys did allright!!! Even we coiuldnt take that many ships!!!!!
(well maybe not that - but its gonna be a sweet episode)

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 5th 2005, 9:11 AM

Can't see them being alive though! It'd make things far too easy, since they know how to make ZPM's, Drones + all the other advanced Ancient tech that's out there.

A few possibilities are that they are in stasis & some get revived by Shep's team, Then the others come & ascend them with all the bright glowy lights & soppy music & all that other stuff.

They realised that they weren't gonna make it. So downloaded their minds/memories into the ships computers before the power went out or they made Holographic images of themselves like Melia in 'Rising'.

They were on an important mission in the battle against the Wraith, However their ship took damage or malfunctioned. They crash landed on a planet, They knew Atlantis wouldn't send help as it was a dangerous mission. So when they didn't hear back from them then the others would fear the worst & return through the gate to Earth. Those who were left on the ship had no choice but to start a new life on this planet with the ship as their home. As the years pass generations have lived & died on the Ship. The team come across the latest generation, They seem friendly at first, So McKay helps repair the ship. Then they find out that Shep's team are from Atlantis. When he offers to take them back to the city then to start a new life on the mainland with the Athosians. They see this as an insulkt as it was their actual ancestors who built the city. They demand the SGA team turn the city over to them as it is rightfully/legally theirs, Shep refuses & the threats start. A battle breaks out & Shep's team are far outnumbered. So they retreat to the Jumper & fly off. The Ancients start up Aurora & give chase. The worst seems to be about to happen & the Jumper has taken damage & another hit will destroy it then Daedalus appears & asks them do they have a problem. The Ancient leader radios over to Shep that they haven't seen the last of each other as it's only beginning & the Ancients will return to their home & drive out the intruders.

This option introduces a powerful new enemy in the show. Yes they are real Ancients as the original settlers were 100% Ancient from Atlantis. However over the past 10,000 years, Ancient knowledge has been passed down each through generation. However important stuff will also be lost to each as well. So they are technically powerful Ancients but don't have the full amount of knowledge. Now they have power & their ship working they can start to track down other Ancient tech in Pegasus & begin to rebuild their empire again. Which must start with removing the SGA team from Atlantis.

Though I can see them going with the Ascending part or the download into the computer/holographic representations of them with important messages personal & also about their secret mission which involved a way to finally destroy the Wraith.

It sounds a cool episode but if it's someone like Carl Binder who writes it ('Letters from Pegasus', 'Before I Sleep' then it'll be another soppy affair.)

Posted by: Wooooo Aug 18th 2005, 3:35 PM

Anyone interested in some pics from this ep? then look no further

Click for Spoiler

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 18th 2005, 4:13 PM

A bit late! Posted here first.

http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12110

Posted by: Wooooo Aug 18th 2005, 5:06 PM

dammit crying.gif

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 18th 2005, 5:12 PM

I'm afraid my friend that it's all about being quick off the draw!

Posted by: Auntie Em! Aug 18th 2005, 5:53 PM

No one....I mean no one...is faster than our own James! Hes our man. biggrin.gif

Posted by: SGC_Will Aug 19th 2005, 4:13 AM

abot the daed. size - in siege pt.3 you see it flying under neath a hive ship - maybe my perspective is wrong but it looks like the wraith ship is almost 8 daed.'s put together?!

p.s. those shots in the german site look like a bridge off the old star trek series

Posted by: Humans Kick A$$ Aug 26th 2005, 7:23 PM

QUOTE(Aussie_Bloke @ May 13th 2005, 3:36 PM)
As I have said before in the "Ancient Battleship" thread - the Aurora - I think - will be about the size of a HATAK.

This is based on the Deadalus being much much much bigger than the Promethius and the Promethius was about the size of a HATAK.

When Gero said "The Aurora is a big Ancient shuip - medium I guess". It sounded to me like the "medium bit" was like an afterthought.

Perhaps the scale in the Pegasus Galaxy goes like this. PEGASUS CRAFT are in green and MILKY WAY CRAFT are in blue.

Hive Ship - about size of Daedalus
Aurora - about size of Promethius
Wraith Cruiser - about size of 2 Alkesh
Dart and PJ - smaller than 302 and Gliders.
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U got the sizes all wrong Daedalus is the size of a wraith cruiser. prometheus is like 2 al'kesh hive ships are fuc.king huge didnt u see the daedalus go underneath them in siege part 3 we got little disapointing ships like always.

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Aug 28th 2005, 5:01 AM

Haha yeah i guess i did get them a bit wrong eh? biggrin.gif

Ah well....I think i posted that before Siege part 3...but anyway your right...Hive ships are Massive!!!

Im still hoping Aurora is about the size of The Daedalus or something.....just better be bigger than a damn puddle jumper!!

Posted by: Arigas Aug 31st 2005, 8:24 AM

Not sure if its supposed to be like this or not, but anyone notice the air date for this and ep 10 are the same? Am I just too tired to read it properly, or are they going to be doing a 2 hour Atlantis that day?

Posted by: frostedpotato Aug 31st 2005, 10:50 PM

Your wright but i think its a mistake in the update of the site blink.gif.

Posted by: frostedpotato Sep 3rd 2005, 3:27 PM

http://sg-atlantis.emedian.net/s209.html, image 05.2 the women is mutating because Sheppard hit her???

Posted by: beat-boxing rulez Sep 3rd 2005, 6:49 PM

I think the Aurora's mission was to put the lady who turns into a wraith on to a hive ship or cruiser so that they could spy or sabotage their whole fleet or something.

Posted by: Rancid Monkey Sep 3rd 2005, 7:08 PM

QUOTE
p.s. those shots in the german site look like a bridge off the old star trek series


Not only that, but they appear to have http://sg-atlantis.emedian.net/images/ep/s2/209/images/SGA-09-004.jpg...

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 3rd 2005, 7:26 PM

Did you even go back even a few pages here? blink.gif We have those pics already, and the phasers.

Posted by: ray243 Sep 4th 2005, 12:11 AM

a LONG time ago

Posted by: That Chevron Guy Sep 4th 2005, 8:42 PM

QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ Jun 5th 2005, 9:11 AM)
Can't see them being alive though! It'd make things far too easy, since they know how to make ZPM's, Drones + all the other advanced Ancient tech that's out there.

A few possibilities are that they are in stasis & some get revived by Shep's team, Then the others come & ascend them with all the bright glowy lights & soppy music & all that other stuff.

They realised that they weren't gonna make it. So downloaded their minds/memories into the ships computers before the power went out or they made Holographic images of themselves like Melia in 'Rising'.

They were on an important mission in the battle against the Wraith, However their ship took damage or malfunctioned. They crash landed on a planet, They knew Atlantis wouldn't send help as it was a dangerous mission. So when they didn't hear back from them then the others would fear the worst & return through the gate to Earth. Those who were left on the ship had no choice but to start a new life on this planet with the ship as their home. As the years pass generations have lived & died on the Ship. The team come across the latest generation, They seem friendly at first, So McKay helps repair the ship. Then they find out that Shep's team are from Atlantis. When he offers to take them back to the city then to start a new life on the mainland with the Athosians. They see this as an insulkt as it was their actual ancestors who built the city. They demand the SGA team turn the city over to them as it is rightfully/legally theirs, Shep refuses & the threats start. A battle breaks out & Shep's team are far outnumbered. So they retreat to the Jumper & fly off. The Ancients start up Aurora & give chase. The worst seems to be about to happen & the Jumper has taken damage & another hit will destroy it then Daedalus appears & asks them do they have a problem. The Ancient leader radios over to Shep that they haven't seen the last of each other as it's only beginning & the Ancients will return to their home & drive out the intruders.

This option introduces a powerful new enemy in the show. Yes they are real Ancients as the original settlers were 100% Ancient from Atlantis. However over the past 10,000 years, Ancient knowledge has been passed down each through generation. However important stuff will also be lost to each as well. So they are technically powerful Ancients but don't have the full amount of knowledge. Now they have power & their ship working they can start to track down other Ancient tech in Pegasus & begin to rebuild their empire again. Which must start with removing the SGA team from Atlantis.

Though I can see them going with the Ascending part or the download into the computer/holographic representations of them with important messages personal & also about their secret mission which involved a way to finally destroy the Wraith.

It sounds a cool episode but if it's someone like Carl Binder who writes it ('Letters from Pegasus', 'Before I Sleep' then it'll be another soppy affair.)
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Bit of a mouthful whistling.gif

Why the hell would they make an enemy out of the second evolution of their kind? If they'd like Atlantis back could'nt they agree to share the city? That to me just dos'nt add up. huh.gif And one other thing: has'nt most of the Altaran's tech/ outposts been destroyed by Wraith assults? If not they would'nt have much.

Posted by: gods Sep 9th 2005, 10:20 AM

i just hope the Aurora is like nothing seen before.
gatefire.gif gatefire.gif

are there any pics of the ship out there?

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 9th 2005, 10:39 AM

Just the inside pics that James provided. Scan back a bit and you will see them.

Posted by: gods Sep 9th 2005, 10:44 AM

yup i cant see any of the ship tho unless they are the ones i get with a white box + little red x lol

so are these people hybrids or something??i cant wait for it to show in the uk

Posted by: Asher Sep 13th 2005, 2:32 AM

I just found out somthing that changes everything about this ep

Click for Spoiler

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 13th 2005, 2:22 PM

Asher where did you see that they get sent to another dimension?

Posted by: Scion Sep 15th 2005, 1:00 AM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Sep 13th 2005, 9:22 PM)
Asher where did you see that they get sent to another dimension?
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Go to scifi.com atlantis page and click the watch teaser video button...

But everyone at gateworld forum seems to think it's supposed to be "virtual reality" not an "alternate reality"...

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 15th 2005, 11:14 PM

The preview for the show...which I just watched says they go to a "parallel reality". I guess that settles it.

I wonder how they get there.

Posted by: Gate Jumper Sep 16th 2005, 12:47 AM

Oh, that kind of sucks. Was hoping the team could keep the ship.

Posted by: mini_jack Sep 18th 2005, 4:16 AM

but if that happeneded what would be the point in haveing two ships defending atlantis the earth battle cruiser and and ancient ship it wouldd be a littel over kill if the waith deside to come back. but i do like over kill

Posted by: Joda Sep 18th 2005, 11:29 PM

Well think about it for a sec... right now the only thing keeping the Wraith away is the fact that the Wraith believe Atlantis is gone because of the Cloak. If their cover is blown and the Wraith attack, it might be good to have an extra ship around all the time. The Daedalus makes a lot of trips from Pegasus to Earth, if the Wraith come calling it'll be pretty sweet to have backup. And that sort of backup is just the sort of thing to make the Wraith think a bit before stopping by. I know they have the Zed-PM. but like McKay said, the shield will only hold for a few days with a fleet pounding on them. I figure the Daedalus and Aurora would be a sweet tandem, and if Earth can pump out a couple more Daedalus class boats, we could have some pretty looking fleet battles in the Pegasus Galaxy... We'll see...

Just my $0.02 ph34r.gif

Posted by: Angelon Sep 20th 2005, 6:53 AM

ph34r.gif SPOILER ph34r.gif

I wach'd this episode so... Took some screenshot while at it.
Beacuse the topic is ship then i post 2 images. 1 Outside and 1 Inside (yes it's true its looks like some star trek interior.

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Posted by: raptor125 Sep 22nd 2005, 12:56 AM

Hey Angelon, how did you watch the eposide if it hasn't even aired yet? I know ya can get them after they air online, but where are they if they haven't?

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 22nd 2005, 1:40 AM

It showed in Canada first. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Angelon Sep 22nd 2005, 3:03 AM

QUOTE(raptor125 @ Sep 22nd 2005, 8:56 AM)
Hey Angelon, how did you watch the eposide if it hasn't even aired yet?  I know ya can get them after they air online, but where are they if they haven't?
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Like the rule's say: I cant remark any links etc. Regaurding Stargate series.
But i can say that I'm building Local Stargate FanSite. It's more liberate and we have all series SG Seson1 1 -9 (E10) and Atlantis Seson 1-2 (E10).
We build Tracker's to Track down evry atlantis Release evry 2 hour's.
When Canada aired his episodes we have them around 6 hours and if scifi aired something we will have it around 12 hours.

In the world is so many contries that are not showing Stargate series (It's high expence and specific target group. )And usualy those countrys dont have licence to brodcast SAT chanels.

Mostly our fan's order DVD's but... Well... We are like litel children on Christmas when Sttargate series are aired. So kinda our action's aren't illegal. Beacuse all our member's buy DVD releases... By (International & Local law's) you can hold piracy copy if you attend to buy original product.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 22nd 2005, 3:10 AM

Really? I always by the DVD's and watch the episodes on the telly even if it is the 30th time I have seen the episode. So a priracy *cough* copy is not illegal if you by the DVD's?

Posted by: Angelon Sep 22nd 2005, 3:34 AM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Sep 22nd 2005, 11:10 AM)
Really? I always by the DVD's and watch the episodes on the telly even if it is the 30th time I have seen the episode. So a priracy *cough* copy is not illegal if you by the DVD's?
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It's not so Black and White...
But yes, you may download any file's from internet for preview uses.
You cant's copy them to your frien'd you cant copy them to anyother use.
In our company had no a while ago Saoftware Aliance / Author Right Org. inspection.
I showed them my Original DVD's and it's was Okay to hold on those serise's RIP's in my computer. They asked me delete episodes wich id didnt hold DVD copy.
I had also MP3's around 500 files. They didnt belive that i didnt listen them already.
They made me delete them and wrote a fine 0,20 Cent's / file. (Total 100 EUROS).

And i asked about the law and they say, that they cant fine or punish me if i hold piracy copy for TESTING / Preview. BUT our local law say that i can hold copy only 24 hours. After that i must buy it or delete it.

NOTICE! If you hold rights to watch SciFi or Anyother chanel that's showing Stargate series you can Record them and hold them your own use only. You cant copy them to your friends. So i dont have possibilyty to any SAT chanel thats showing Series. By this to make legal my copy's i must buy DVD's.

Posted by: Rin Daemoko Sep 22nd 2005, 4:56 AM

I just saw the episode and I have to saw that it was interesting, yet somewhat disappointing. I am terribly thirsty for a tall glass of kick-ass Ancient technology/knowledge, and we get so close but it never happens. In this case, we have a ship full of Ancients (with most of their knowledge/memories in tact) but we don't see much come of it. Of course we see the big bag wrathy Wraith, with the teeth and the growling and the floin laven!

I mean they could've asked what would be the best place to look for a ZPM or where to look in the Atlantis databse for how to build ZPMs or something! Anything! They're the frickin' Ancients and they were right there! Come one! Throw us a frickin' bone here.

I suppose we just have to be patient, though. I mean if Atlantis can go on for another seven seasons, then we'll probably see a lot of Ancient technology and information in the future. I'm just an impatient little fanboy who isn't all that impressed by the Wraith with their smashing and the feasting and the painfully obvious villainry.

Posted by: MYOB Sep 23rd 2005, 5:43 PM

There is nothing illegal about recording shows off the television.
Nor is there anything to my knowledge about you letting someone else borrow your tape of said recorded television show.
The studios can't really say much since TIVO came out cause the whole premise of Tivo is being able to record shows off the television.
Of course if you try to sell them it is a different story.
And as long as you aren't ripping the DVD but just recording off the TV it should be ok.

But distributing the file to as many people as possible using something like Bit Torrent is still something that is hazy since nothing really has been said(much) about mass distribution between countries.

MYOB'
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Posted by: Samara Draven Sep 23rd 2005, 11:17 PM

I just saw this episode and I laughed hysterically a few times, mostly due to Sheppard's and Rodney's interaction. I enjoyed it. Without the funnies it could've been more boring. Some of it I saw coming. Although I didn't mind it that much 'cause it made me feel like I'm smart or something.

Click for Spoiler

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 25th 2005, 8:24 AM

why not post in the episode section of SGA instead of in here?

Posted by: Samara Draven Sep 25th 2005, 5:00 PM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Sep 25th 2005, 9:24 AM)
why not post in the episode section of SGA instead of in here?
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Well I guess 'cause I thought this was it. It was under Spoilers and Speculation and people have been talking about it here. Some have theories. Others had an opinion. At least that's how I took their comments. I didn't think to look elsewhere since I the ep just aired and I assumed ppl would want to talk about it, I figured the discussion was here where ppl can openly speculate about it and possibly spoil it for others who haven't seen it. I thought they were one and the same and I wanted to add my input. There was nothing to indicate I shouldn't and the title of the thread is 'Aurora' unless I read that wrong. Sorry.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Sep 26th 2005, 9:10 AM

I do not really care if you talk about it here Samara but you brought up some good stuff and if you talked about it openly in the episode section more people could read what you posted and discuss it with you. A lot of people do not come into the spoiler section. smile.gif I guess I should have stated that. Sorry.

Posted by: Samara Draven Sep 26th 2005, 12:43 PM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Sep 26th 2005, 10:10 AM)
I do not really care if you talk about it here Samara but you brought up some good stuff and if you talked about it openly in the episode section more people could read what you posted and discuss it with you. A lot of people do not come into the spoiler section. smile.gif I guess I should have stated that. Sorry.
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Well, I chalk it up to misunderstanding. I have since posted my comment there. I think I understand what you meant now. Thanks. I am learning - will learn how to use this forum to its greatest potential eventually. biggrin.gif

Posted by: tinus42 Oct 1st 2005, 3:47 AM

QUOTE(ancient01 @ Apr 11th 2005, 5:59 AM)
Hmmm...  The Aurora is rumored to be a top secret US program, possibly an aircraft.  That fits...
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And it's also the name of the ship that fired the first shot of the Russian October Revolution in 1917.

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Battlecruiser Aurora

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser_Aurora

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