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Stargate Information Archive _ Atlantis Spoiler Archive _ Episode 210/211 - "The Lost Boys" & "The Hive"
Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 25th 2005, 2:51 AM
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Sounds good.
Posted by: Stargate Master May 25th 2005, 9:23 AM
I can't wait for this episode, it sounds really good. I think their will be good effects in this episode with Ford and his buddies having all those special abilities as in the super strength and agilty.
Posted by: ancient01 May 25th 2005, 11:37 AM
Sounds like X-men - Stargate style...
Posted by: Sighfienerd May 25th 2005, 1:28 PM
I'm so glad to hear that Ford is going to get the chance to do something juicy. It also sounds like this season is going to be much more complex with interesting layering between the team members themselves as well as their (apparent) enemies. Also,
Posted by: Dafmeister May 25th 2005, 3:07 PM
Cant really comment on this episode yet as there isnt much of a background story. I get the impression that the Wraith are becoming Goa'uld-like. They dont operate as a whole "collective" and they are territorial, seems familiar.
I wonder if the title of the episode means that those who are effected by this enzyme cannot die? The Lost Boys in Peter Pan basically lived forever (they didnt grow up) or does it refer to the film of the same name that featured Vampires?
Posted by: Sighfienerd May 25th 2005, 6:32 PM
I wonder if the title of the episode means that those who are effected by this enzyme cannot die? The Lost Boys in Peter Pan basically lived forever (they didnt grow up) or does it refer to the film of the same name that featured Vampires?
Dafmeister, what an interesting thought! I was thinking of it in terms of the Peter Pan thing that the Lost Boys were, well, lost and didn't know how to find their way home - meaning that they had lost their own essence and become something else.
But yeah, I bet the writer's had both of these references in mind. Good catch.
Posted by: Mister Oragahn May 27th 2005, 5:32 PM
Possibly both, since both would fit with the ideas here (unknown territories, boys, youth and vampirism).
Posted by: JamesyBHOY May 27th 2005, 6:28 PM
I originally thought 'The Lost Boys' as in the movie. Hunters & all that. Suppose come to think of it though the Peter Pan bit probably bears good resemblance as well. Since if they're part Wraith, then they might never age as long as they get regular doses of the Enzyme.
Posted by: dr lee Jun 1st 2005, 7:49 AM
COLONEL sheppard????
when does he become a colonel?
Posted by: Aegir Jun 1st 2005, 8:00 AM
when does he become a colonel?
Thats a good point.... how do you go from Major to Colonel in 10 episodes??
typo maybe ??
Posted by: Andygod90 Jun 1st 2005, 8:11 AM
maybe he gets promoted 4 saving atlantis's ass in the start of season 2
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 1st 2005, 9:02 AM
when does he become a colonel?
Posted by: Dafmeister Jun 1st 2005, 11:37 AM
typo maybe ??
He has been a Major long before he joined the Atlantis expedition, so he hasnt been a Major for just season 1.
Posted by: Carter-Hot Jun 1st 2005, 12:36 PM
It's actually Lieutenant Colonel
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 1st 2005, 2:31 PM
Oops, I was wondering about those responses asking about Colonel.
I couldn't find any. So by chance I read mu own & saw it was me who originally made the mistake. Doh! It was just a Typo, I was running late that morning for work & missed out the Lt. , which should have went before the Col. part.
Sorry about that.
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 3rd 2005, 2:04 AM
Spoilers for the 2nd Part 'The Hive' Just Released!
Posted by: Stargate Master Jun 3rd 2005, 4:21 AM
The second part looks even better than the first in my opinion. It looks to be another action-packed Wraith episode, which has got me very excited.
Posted by: unseen_shadow Aug 15th 2005, 2:25 PM
How ironic this whole time everyone was expecting Ford to be the one who gives away the existance of Atlantis
Posted by: ted_simple Aug 16th 2005, 1:29 AM
I don't understand why the Wraith will not simply extract the information through telepathic interrogation as they did with Sumner.
Posted by: ColonelJackO'NeillRocks Aug 16th 2005, 12:26 PM
It is one thing to defeat your enemies by force, but to have them realize that they defeated themselves, that is a greater and sweeter victory.
Rocks out.
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 24th 2005, 11:50 AM
First preview pics released for 'The Lost Boys', which is the first part.
First preview pics released for 'The Lost Boys', which is the first part.
Posted by: Auntie Em! Aug 24th 2005, 12:35 PM
I like seeing a production pic. (the last one). Cool James.
Posted by: Stargate Master Aug 24th 2005, 12:49 PM
Nice pics James, once again. Looks to be a good episode. Also, Ford looks as if he has an afro now, lol.
Posted by: Cindy Sep 10th 2005, 3:38 AM
Sheppard does get promoted in Intruder but not by Caldwell.
Posted by: dr lee Sep 10th 2005, 5:18 AM
it was....
wasn't it?
Posted by: Stargate Master Sep 10th 2005, 1:58 PM
We don't actually know for sure who it was that promoted Sheppard. Weir just said, "Then, you will just have to promote him". But I think it is safe to assume that it probably was General Landry.
Posted by: unseen_shadow Sep 26th 2005, 6:52 PM
Dam it all we need to know is that he was promoted, it doesnt matter who.
Posted by: Dafmeister Sep 26th 2005, 6:58 PM
Wouldnt it have been the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs advising the President, then the President issuing the order to promote him to Lt. Colonel, then the order filtering down through to O'Neill, then Landry, then to Caldwell and finally to Sheppard?
Posted by: Joda Sep 28th 2005, 11:10 AM
Usually there is a committe of people who will sit down and discuss who is eligible for promotion, then when they've made their decisions, they'll send the promotion orders out to the immediate commanding officer, who will place the new bars, or stripes, or stars, or whatever new insignia they get.
Although I think there is a Presidential role in the process... but that might only be for the High ranks... I.E. Generals, Admirals, etc.
Edit: Of course I forget the point of the post... in a case such as this, (Shep being reccommended) ... I would hazard a guess that the decision would fall to O'Neill as Head of Homeworld Security. I think... I could be wrong... anyone who knows more care to enlighten us all?
Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 2nd 2005, 9:48 PM
We get 211 on Nov 22 in Canada on TMN. I sure as hell hope that TMN does NOT cut the ending off like they did to 210. I wonder how Sheppard is going to get his team off the Hive ship. Are there any sneak pics?
Where the hell is JamesBoy? 
Posted by: dr lee Oct 2nd 2005, 10:08 PM
yeah i haven't seen or heard of him for a long while.
maybe he's so deep under cover trying to find spoiler pics for us that he can't get on the site?
he's probably hanging upside down from a rope above trying to hack into mgm's computers? 
jamesyBHOY if ur out there say hi!
i know
isn't it correct that the uk gets 211 early jan 06 and the USA gets it late jan 06?
wonder if sky one will use the full length start-ups?
Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 2nd 2005, 10:59 PM
I think that is correct. I wonder why we Canadians gets 211 on Nov 22. That is like 6 to 8 weeks before the rest of the world. I am not complaining. Just wondering.
James runs his own fitness places and gets busy with that I think. He does have good MGM sneak peak stuff. He is great.
Posted by: IndyJan Oct 3rd 2005, 1:35 AM
James runs his own fitness places and gets busy with that I think. He does have good MGM sneak peak stuff. He is great.
We get the season on SCI-FI and they, for some reason split their seasons in half on all the shows. Consequently, we don't get the second half until January. It's not like the shows haven't already been taped, they have.
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 3rd 2005, 5:18 AM
wonder if sky one will use the full length start-ups?
When the UK gets the second halves of season 9 of SG1 and season 2 of Atlantis, we will be a few weeks ahead of the US. It has been like that for a few years. Plus we also get season 2 of Galactica on Sky One in January.
Sky One will be showing the uncut opening credits.
Posted by: Cindy Oct 9th 2005, 6:41 AM
From all the spoilers i've read it seems to me that Ford is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean its really good to see ford again (with and Affro 
) but his character really annoyed me in this ep even if he was cool 
Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 10th 2005, 9:59 AM
Two new photos from the Stargate Atlantis episode, "The Hive" have been recieved by GateWorld. "The Hive" is the second part of the mid-season cliffhanger, "The Lost Boys".
Click on Spoiler Tag to view:
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 10th 2005, 10:44 AM
Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 10th 2005, 10:52 AM
Posted by: ancient01 Oct 10th 2005, 11:12 AM
That wraith looks anorexic. I wonder if that's supposed to be part of the plotline...
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 10th 2005, 11:50 AM
Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 10th 2005, 1:05 PM
I dont actually know, I tried looking at the guest stars for "Rising" but the Wraith Queen wasn't listed.
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 10th 2005, 1:30 PM
It was the same actress. Her name is listed on the credits for 'The Hive' on Gateworld, her name is Andee Frizzell. On IMDb she is credited as playing The Keeper in 'Rising' part 2 too.
Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 10th 2005, 1:56 PM
Wow! They've done a good job of making her look different. I agree with ancient, she looks annorexic but she didn't in "Rising".
Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 10th 2005, 10:46 PM
Why are you doing spoiler tags in the spoiler section? 
She looks like she is about to slam her hand onto Sheppards chest for a quick snack.
Posted by: Sighfienerd Oct 10th 2005, 10:57 PM
She looks like she is about to slam her hand onto Sheppards chest for a quick snack.
You'd think Sheppard would look about 80 by now with all the times he's been "snacked" on.
I don't know if Andee Frizell is anorexic. Certainly she's thin, but that look could just be a function of the white makeup and the tight black leather.
Jamesy still isn't around?
Posted by: ha'tak Oct 11th 2005, 5:47 PM
I would have never guessed that it was the same actress they did do a good job and I think that it is an optical illusion with the makeup and the leather
Posted by: kennykiller Oct 15th 2005, 6:20 PM
This may have been asked before, but i dont know, so im gonna ask anyway.
WRAITH QUEEN?????
Does this mean we have some big boss that everyone in the race obeys, and who talks to, makes deals with, betrays etc etc, the title characters, as with a certain cybernetic race in a certain other science fiction programme?
.........Just wondering out loud here people. 
Posted by: Trad86 Oct 15th 2005, 7:23 PM
Well it makes sense that the wraith would have some sort of leadership, though I don't think the entire race obeys her, remember they are a feudal tribal society.
Posted by: Neo Marine Oct 18th 2005, 4:39 PM
Sheppard get promoted to Lieutenant Colonel by Colonel Dillon Everet.
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 19th 2005, 3:46 AM
Actually it was Steven Caldwell that promoted Sheppard.
Posted by: dr lee Oct 19th 2005, 4:56 AM
i thought that it was landry that promoted him
Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 19th 2005, 7:44 AM
The order to promote him would have come from Landry or O'Neill, but since neither of them were on the Daedalus it was Colonel Caldwell that told him he was to be promoted.
Posted by: SG-A Nov 1st 2005, 4:58 PM
if ford gave the genii the wrath enzime they might become nice guys
Posted by: Dafmeister Nov 1st 2005, 5:01 PM
Why? What use would the Genii have for the enzyme and why would it suddenly make them allies with the Atlantis team?
Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Nov 6th 2005, 11:43 PM
I cannot WAIT for 'The Hive'!!!!!
Apparently there is meant to be a HUGE space battle...to rival siege 3!!! I cant really so who would be in it tho...we only have 1 ship....maybe we fill the D up with jumpers and 302's and we have one massive fighter battle!!!!!
Posted by: SG-A Nov 7th 2005, 6:29 AM
actualy he was premoted by the USAF
Posted by: Arigas Nov 9th 2005, 7:51 PM
I bet it was not very important who promoted him, but Everet certainly didn't. He was still being refered to as Major in the flashback sequences of Intruder. It was Weir that recommended he get promoted, and likely some general that promoted him. It was, after all, O'Niell that promoted Carter to Lt. Colonel(That just doesn't seem like its spelt right....)
This episode will be a good episode, and since TMN shows the full intro, it will be even sweeter to see it rather than the cut down intro from SciFi. Can't wait to see what happens to Shep in this one.
Posted by: Auntie Em! Nov 15th 2005, 11:34 PM
Ok this is about "The Hive" 211. Set to come on January 6th, 2006.
"The Hive" - McKay (David Hewlett) races against time to rescue Sheppard (Joe Flanigan), Teyla (Rachel Luttrell), and Ronon (Jason Momoa) after they are captured and held hostage on a Wraith hive ship.
Captured by the Wraith, Sheppard, Teyla, Ronon, and Ford (Rainbow Sun Francks) are being held hostage aboard a hive ship. As the team desperately searches for some means of escape, they are shocked to discover a coalition of Wraith followers on board the ship.
McKay, who is still stranded on Ford's planet, soon realizes that the team has been captured. In order to escape the planet, he comes up with an unconventional plan: he injects himself with a massive amount of the dangerous Wraith enzyme. The drug provides him with brute strength, and after knocking the guards that surround him unconscious, he is able to dial the gate and leave the planet. When he arrives on Atlantis completely incoherent, Dr. Weir (Torri Higginson) and Dr. Beckett (Paul McGillion) put him under immediate medical supervision.
Once recovered, McKay is able to calculate the location of the ship upon which the team is stranded. As tensions rise on the hive ship between the Wraith and the Atlantis team, he and Caldwell (Mitch Pileggi) must devise a plan to bring the rest of their team to safety.
Posted by: Neo Marine Nov 16th 2005, 9:53 PM
I knew from the beginning that sheppard would escape because the show must go on, and he is the show.
Posted by: Cons Nov 27th 2005, 2:14 PM
Posted by: Atlantians Nov 27th 2005, 9:51 PM
So to anyone who saw the Hive.
Do Wraith Ships have shields when they attack eachother?
Posted by: Auntie Em! Nov 28th 2005, 12:59 AM
Atlantian this is not a place to talk about it. That would be in the episode guide so we do no spoil it but
Posted by: Cindy Dec 3rd 2005, 11:55 PM
In intruder, Weir actually suggests that Shep should get promoted to lt.Colonel so he can stay the millitary commander on atlantis because he sved their asses from the wraith
Posted by: Historywiz Dec 9th 2005, 9:06 PM
can't wait till january
Posted by: SG-A Dec 22nd 2005, 11:37 AM
Cause there a bunch of mad men now the enzyme may cam them down
Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 22nd 2005, 3:47 PM
If the Genii were given the enzyme it would only make them more determined to take Atlantis. We have seen that the enzyme limits rational thought and to give it to the Genii would likely cause them to try to take Atlantis at any cost and by any method.
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