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Stargate Information Archive _ Atlantis Spoiler Archive _ Episode 213 - "Critical Mass"

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 21st 2005, 9:21 PM

First info regarding 'Critical Mass', currently scheduled for Ep.14 of the new season has just been released.

This possibly gives away what happens when the second Wraith fleet arrives in 'The Siege III' & also seems to confim the bit of teaser dialogue that was released a while back. The one in 'Duet' where Shep makes a cryptic remark about their cover being blown if they are spotted by the Dart.


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Posted by: Auntie Em! Jun 21st 2005, 9:29 PM

James wrong thread. This is Stargate SG1. laugh.gif

Sounds REALLY cool James. I can hardly wait for S2!

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 21st 2005, 9:31 PM

I know, have already asked Mike to move it to the proper section. 1.gif

Posted by: Mike Jun 21st 2005, 9:36 PM

Odin! Clean up on asile 5!

Odin and Arc are the only ones who can move in this forum. I'll forward the PM.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Jun 21st 2005, 9:37 PM

Awsome. That gives me time to pickon and tease James. laugh.gif smile.gif

Posted by: IndyJan Jun 22nd 2005, 12:04 AM

Oops, wrong section or not, it gives me a chance to see something about S2 of Atlantis. I just don't get to those boards very often. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Count Cooku Jun 22nd 2005, 10:18 AM

Good to be back in the Atlantis spoiler page. Thanks for moving the thread.

Anyway, I knew something like that would happen, but i'd heard that either the city would sink or it would fly away. Of course, I don't know who thought that the city could fly past an armada of Wraith ships undetected, until someone said that it had a cloak. Then my question was, well why didn't the ancients use it? Surely they would have used it to hide from the wraith?

Okay, maybe they did, and the wraith found a way around it, but if that is the case, then how did the Wraith manage to find the city for the final seige (not season 1 ending, but the one where the Ancients left)? And why are they caught out by this trick? Surely they're smarter than that?

Wraith 1: Atlantis has blown up. There is no trace of it left on my scanners.
Wraith 2: Are you sure it isn't invisible?
Wraith 1: Well I can't see it, so it must be gone!

I thought the Wraith were smarter than that?
The only idea I can think of is it was a last minute addition, but the Ancients realised that it would only be a temporary solution, and so abandoned the idea. Problem with that is they were smart, and would have happily accepted a few more years to deal with the problem, or so my understanding of them went. Maybe I was wrong.

Posted by: dr lee Jun 22nd 2005, 10:33 AM

remember in 'before i sleep' there was a disagreement between the inventor of the time machine and a 'head' ancient?

maybe someone installed the cloak but the ancient PTB decided not to use it?

or the wraith fleet was over head and the device was almost completed when the order to leave was given. then the amazing scientific team of MaKay and Zelenka manage to get the device to work.

i wonder if earth had built the cloaking device from anubis' fleets wreckage or from some one else? then all they'd needed to have done is ship it over on the daedalus and the atlantis crew would install it and get it to work.

Posted by: Count Cooku Jun 22nd 2005, 10:45 AM

Time travel is different to cloaking. The head ancient probably wanted to avoid that which SG1 did in Mobius, affect the time line. But if they cloaked, then the city could fly from Atlantis to another planet. Remember it was the stargate in atlantis and not the planet that had the ability to return to earth. The city could have cloaked and flown anywhere, maybe even back to our own galaxy, or to IDA. The Wraith may have followed, admittedly, but if it looked like the city was destroyed, then they could have done it.
And if we can think of that, then the highly advanced ancients must have been able to think of something like it.

The idea of bringing a cloak is good, but I thought so far only people used it in the MW galaxy. How could they use it on the entire city of Atlantis? And from the fact that puddle jumpers have cloaks, it was obvious that this was something that was finished by the ancients. I'm just wondering how the Wraith knew the city was still there, but didn't realise it when the Atlantis team used it. Maybe I'm just giving them too much credit.

Posted by: bigjohn_1972 Jun 22nd 2005, 2:45 PM

Cool, I can't wait to see what they find out about the city now that they have a ZPM to power everything up!
It's been while since I've seen the show, but didn't the wraith mentally connect to Teyla and figure out a bunch of stuff?

Posted by: Dafmeister Jun 22nd 2005, 4:42 PM

How does the Daedalus make regular trips to the Milky Way? I thought they needed the ZPM to augment the hyperdrive, but isn't it being used to power Atlantis?

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 22nd 2005, 4:45 PM

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but i'd heard that either the city would sink or it would fly away. Of course, I don't know who thought that the city could fly past an armada of Wraith ships undetected, until someone said that it had a cloak. Then my question was, well why didn't the ancients use it? Surely they would have used it to hide from the wraith?


I originally thought that they'd sink it, However it's definitely known that they ain't gonna do that this season.

Possibly the Ancients did try to use the cloak but perhaps the Wraith had a way of detecting the output from the HyperDrives (Basically like in ST when they follow the Warp trail), So the Ancients would have been to afraid to do this, as they would have been opening the door to a whole new fresh galaxy of potential feed for the Wraith. It's also possible that the cloak could have been damaged or incomplete & only manage to get it operational again with the help of little Hermy & McKay/Zelenka etc.

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Okay, maybe they did, and the wraith found a way around it, but if that is the case, then how did the Wraith manage to find the city for the final seige (not season 1 ending, but the one where the Ancients left)? And why are they caught out by this trick? Surely they're smarter than that?


It's possible that they caught an Ancient & gained the true location from him, after torture/feeding etc. The Ancients had no option but to submerge it after the cloaked location was known.

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i wonder if earth had built the cloaking device from anubis' fleets wreckage or from some one else? then all they'd needed to have done is ship it over on the daedalus and the atlantis crew would install it and get it to work.


Can't really see them having the tech knowledge to build something like that, Not to mention covering the whole of the city. It's almost certainly to me anyway, Ancient tech. That possibly comes online automatically when the ZPM is inserted or gets activated accidentally, Somebody like McKay/Beckett who are both in or around the control room, So one of them could lean on something & the disappearing act begins.

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It's been while since I've seen the show, but didn't the wraith mentally connect to Teyla and figure out a bunch of stuff?


As far as we know, It's Teyla who needs to establish the mental connection first for the Wraith to take control. Teyal found out about the Wraith planning on using Atlantis to get to Earth, However that was gained from when the female Wraith fed upon Sumner. What the SGA team & Bates in particular suspect is that they know her location/whereabouts somehow or are gaining all this stuff from her without her knowing about it directly. He believed that she may be inadvertently giving away/compromisiing away missions + Locations, as when the Wraith found their original Alpha site & they had to relocate to another one. Whether this is the case or not or just pure coincidence remains to be seen.

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Jun 23rd 2005, 1:53 AM

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Dafmeister Posted Today, 08:42 AM
  How does the Daedalus make regular trips to the Milky Way? I thought they needed the ZPM to augment the hyperdrive, but isn't it being used to power Atlantis?


Simple answer - Asgard tech.

The daedauls is way way more advanced than what we are used to - so maybe with the ZPM it boosted the speed from 4 weeks to 4 days...we know the Asgard can travel between IDA and Milky Way in a matter of hours - and thats between galxies too!

So maybe the 4 days was on the Daedalus' own power anyway so as to not waste the power of the ZPM.

Anyway the Daedalus can go between Milky Way and Pegasus and around Pegasus. The 302's we will bring can go into hyperspace too - only around Pegasus though.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 23rd 2005, 7:57 AM

Daedalus has intergalactic capabilities where Prometheus does not. The ZPM simply boosted it to arrive within 4 days. Under it's own power, I say to reach Pegasus from the MW it't take around 2 to 4 weeks to arrive. Peronsally I'd go for 2 weeks to arrive & a few days to resupply/make repairs/change crew etc then 2 weeks to get back to Atlantis. Posisbly double the speed of Prometheus.

The Asgard can reach Earth in minutes/hours from IDA, So not sure how long it'd take them to travel the 300 odd million light years to Pegasus. It would most likely be far quicker than Daedalus though, Of that I'm pretty certain.

Although if the Daedalus can reach it in 4 days then this can mean only one of two things, First the ZPM boosted the HD by a few 100% percent, Which I'm not sure if they could do it by such a margin & for such a considerable distance. The second choice is that we don't have the power capabilites to power the Asgard HyperDrives to their maximum potential & the ZPM was simply allowing the HD's to work close to 100%. Although it's a bigger ship, so that could mean Ion generators being installed. I'm not sure which one, but until the ep airs then it's really impossible to say at this point.

Posted by: ancient01 Jun 23rd 2005, 11:55 AM

QUOTE(JamesyBHOY @ Jun 23rd 2005, 7:57 AM)
Daedalus has intergalactic capabilities where Prometheus does not.
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Weren't they headed to Atlantis in Prometheus Unbound? Seems like we have intergalactic capabilities in both ships, but I also suspect that it's a lot slower than when they have the ZPM installed.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Jun 23rd 2005, 4:36 PM

Yeah I agree. I think both have the intergalactic capabilities. Promethius was just very much slower.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 23rd 2005, 4:45 PM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jun 23rd 2005, 10:36 PM)
Yeah I agree. I think both have the intergalactic capabilities. Promethius was just very much slower.
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2.) How come Atlantis gets the shiny new earth-ship Daedalus? Granted, it's the shiny-new show . . . but I question why Earth would send it's best ship to another galaxy, knowing it'll be awfully difficult to get back home.

2a.) And it's been pronounced "Ded-uh-luss" on the show, but I've always heard it "Day-duh-luss." Is this a (Canadian?) pronunciation thing, or have I been hearing/saying it wrong?

4.) Going back to the Daedalus . . . we know she's an updated battlecruiser, and will be even cooler than the Prommie . . . does she carry the same style F-302s? Or did they get updated (stylistically or technologically) as well? (yeah, I know "wait for S3" . . . but that's month's from now . . . months!)


Answers by Martin Gero

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2. The Daedalus has intergalactic capabilities?the Prometheus does not?so we get the Daedalus.

4. Said all I want to say about this?watch ?Siege: Part 3? and ?Intruder?




Posted by: Dafmeister Jun 23rd 2005, 5:06 PM

If the Prometheus isnt capable of intergalactic travel (travelling between galaxies) why was the SGC using it to travel to Pegasus galaxy in 'Prometheus Unbound'? Pretty much concrete evidence that the Prometheus is capable of intergalactic travel.

Posted by: JamesyBHOY Jun 23rd 2005, 6:13 PM

When I originally read his answers, Which was only around a month ago before he closed down the thread. I just assumed what he meant was that true intergalactic travel is to go from A to B without stopping. Daedalus can do it but for such a journey Prometheus would need to make a good few stops along the way. Other than that I have no idea!

Posted by: Carter-Hot Jun 24th 2005, 11:31 AM

Regarding the original plan that the Ancients could have attempted was, Atlantis was on a different planet before the "War on Wraith" occurred.

When the position of the city was discovered, the Ancients had sent warships to negotiate peace but also to distract the Wraith.

Using the cloaking device, Atlantis flew to its current location and uncloaked, as the Ancients believe that they don't have to worry about the Wraith, but a Wraith ship flew by, detected the city and the city became under attack, they submerge the city to prevent the Wraith from getting a target lock.

Atlantis became besieged with no hope in sight, they diverted power to shields and the whole, "Before I Sleep" storyline, deactivating other systems and left. When they got back to Earth, they entered that the last co-ordinates aka Stargate address of the city was at such and such.

But I don't know is this possible or not

But it's safe to assume that they needed a ZPM or 3 to activate other defencive systems such as the cloaking device.

EDIT: I can't wait for July! w00t.gif

Posted by: jetsetter Jul 1st 2005, 3:26 PM

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It's been confirmed. A Goa'uld in Atlantis. bow.gif

Posted by: dr lee Jul 1st 2005, 4:23 PM

interesting to see how they react to a goa'uld as i don't think they have anyone on the team who has experience with fighting the goa'uld

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I can't wait for July!


well carter-hot you'll just have to wait longer. its been announced that uk sky one won't be showing SG1/SGA untill october crying.gif sad.gif


Posted by: jetsetter Jul 1st 2005, 4:31 PM

He will download episodes me thinks.

Posted by: IndyJan Jul 1st 2005, 10:06 PM

QUOTE(dr lee @ Jul 1st 2005, 4:23 PM)
interesting to see how they react to a goa'uld as i don't think they have anyone on the team who has experience with fighting the goa'uld
well carter-hot you'll just have to wait longer. its been announced that uk sky one won't be showing SG1/SGA untill october crying.gif  sad.gif
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Rodney has knowledge of them as does Weir, but to my knowledge no one has actually faught them. Maybe some of the military will have experience with that.

Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Jul 2nd 2005, 2:19 AM

Hope it brings crate loads of ZAT's with it so we will have a battle of the stunners - Wraith Stunner V Goa'uld Zat!

Because the goauld alerted the wraith ships to the atlantis's position - does this mean that they previously knew about the goauld - or did it just find out after stowing aboard Big D and ending up at Pegasus.

Perhaps he will attempt to make allies with them.

Posted by: Stargate Master Jul 2nd 2005, 2:51 AM

This is great!! A Goa'uld in Atlantis. I can just imagine it now, Wraith Vs. Goa'uld.

Posted by: Lagger Jul 2nd 2005, 3:31 AM

welll gould would make a nice meal for a wraith

since gould can heal themselves, and wraith suck life...
an everylasting food source

you suck the life outta the gould, then they heal, and you can suck more life. why bother with humans? you get more for less.....

Posted by: Stargate Master Jul 3rd 2005, 9:16 AM

QUOTE(Lagger @ Jul 2nd 2005, 9:31 AM)
welll gould would make a nice meal for a wraith

since gould can heal themselves, and wraith suck life...
an everylasting food source

you suck the life outta the gould, then they heal, and you can suck more life. why bother with humans? you get more for less.....
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We wouldn't know for sure if the Goa'uld could heal themselves from a Wraith sucking the life out of them because it has never really been tested. The damage to the human host might be to much for the Goa'uld symbiote to handle.

Posted by: Alosel Jul 3rd 2005, 5:13 PM

QUOTE(Stargate Master @ Jul 3rd 2005, 3:16 PM)
We wouldn't know for sure if the Goa'uld could heal themselves from a Wraith sucking the life out of them because it has never really been tested. The damage to the human host might be to much for the Goa'uld symbiote to handle.
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How about giving them the members of the Goa'ulded Trust with a Sarcophagus.

Problem sorted.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Jul 3rd 2005, 8:26 PM

Is this goa'uld Kinsey? Intersting thought.

Posted by: Count Cooku Jul 4th 2005, 3:22 PM

Well, the culprit is Dr Seagle, but it doesn't actually say if it is him or not, so Kinsey is a possiblity. However, it is unlikely that he could get into the Daedulus (or SGC) and then Atlantis undetected. If, however, you mean the Goau'ld that Kinsey had then it is possible. But that seems like a cheap way to end the Kinsey story. It might tie into the Trust storyline, though. I know TPTB said that they wanted to differentiate Atlantis from SG1, but a Goau'ld has proven that they don't really mind sharing.

As for the Goau'ld vs Wraith idea, do you mean the wraith sucking the host's life or the symbiote itself? it would depend, but the rate that the wraith eat is faster than the symbiote's healing, as far as I know.

Posted by: Atlantians Jul 4th 2005, 5:06 PM

Dr. Seagle is a woman btw.

Posted by: ha'tak Jul 5th 2005, 1:51 AM

Im just trying to immagine the madness/ power that a gou'ald would have if it took a wraith as a host. The gou'ald tech + the wraith tech and both species ability to heal there would be no stoping that thing but who knows if even a gou'ald can take a wraith as a host [i hope not but then again it would be cool]

Posted by: Count Cooku Jul 5th 2005, 4:46 AM

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but it doesn't actually say if it is him or not

Dr. Seagle is a woman btw.


!$(!"%!(?& typo.

Posted by: Stargate Master Jul 5th 2005, 3:11 PM

If the Goa'uld could get Wraith as hosts regularly they might even replace humans as the Goa'uld's favorite host. But I doubt the Goa'uld could get Wraith hosts very often.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Jul 5th 2005, 8:24 PM

I thought Wraith also have telepathic communication. Would that not give a goa'uld away?

Posted by: ha'tak Jul 6th 2005, 12:24 AM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 5th 2005, 8:24 PM)
I thought Wraith also have telepathic communication. Would that not give a goa'uld away?
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Probably not if the gou'ald was in control. But who knows the extent of the wraith telepathic abilitys

Posted by: That Chevron Guy Jul 12th 2005, 9:18 AM

I doubt the Gou'ald will be able to leave the base as soon as it's discovered. So, i seriously doubt it would have the oppertunity to join itself with a Wraith host. But if it does.......I don't know, i'm sorta still torn between that idea.......But if it does, don't you think the other Wraith would take notice and not let him/her get very far.........?

Posted by: Lagger Jul 13th 2005, 7:34 AM

i neva though of that... i jsut thought the wraith would use it as a meal....

and i meant the wraith, instead of going for humans, realising that gou'ld are much better. I reckon the wraith would suck the host, till its nearly dead, and let the gould heal the host... before doing it again....

Gould vs. Wraith.. i reckon wraith win, after all sg1, has almost wiped out all gould.... not to mention, baal, and anubis chipping in....

I doubt either of them would form an alliance though...

Posted by: ziostilon Jul 14th 2005, 10:57 PM

Dude who i think is the Goa'uld:



Posted by: Auntie Em! Jul 14th 2005, 11:18 PM

Who the hell is that?

Posted by: dr lee Jul 15th 2005, 3:13 AM



i think he's the guy sat at the control panel in this pic.

anyone else agree?

Posted by: Evo Jul 15th 2005, 3:26 AM

Hm.. this episode sounds interesting.

I don't think that guy in picture1 is the same guy in picture2. In picture2 the guy has a beard and in picture1 I don't see any.. unless it's my eyes

Posted by: dr lee Jul 15th 2005, 3:42 AM


look abit closer at pic 1. it's a bit difficult to see as he's screaming and the shot is through the security cameras but i'm 100% certain that it is the same guy.

Posted by: jmstacey Jul 30th 2005, 1:19 AM

Well, now that we've seen the episode that those screenshots are for, we can rule out that guy as the gould.

It seems like the wraith heal much faster than a gould can, especially after just feeding (thinking of bullet holes just healing in a matter of seconds).

Posted by: Lagger Jul 30th 2005, 2:17 AM

yeah, and goulds dont last as long.....

carsen said that the wraith could live for ever... gou'lds die after ages....

Posted by: IndyJan Jul 31st 2005, 10:13 PM

With a Goa'uld you shoot the symbiote and they usually die. With the Wraith, you can shoot and shoot and not take them out.

As far as the Daedalus, Season 2, Siege, Part III, I thought it took them 18 days to travel to Atlantis from Earth. The ZPM is being used to keep the shield powered on Atlantis. It can also power up the SG and we can go through to Earth, like that, but need a ship to return.

Posted by: mini_jack Aug 2nd 2005, 1:50 AM

wow sound to me like a cool episode and to beable to cloke the city when every they want with a super cloke generator sounds cool.

Posted by: sg69leader Aug 8th 2005, 12:44 AM

QUOTE(IndyJan @ Jul 31st 2005, 10:13 PM)
With a Goa'uld you shoot the symbiote and they usually die.  With the Wraith, you can shoot and shoot and not take them out.



Yeah, thats true but we haven't seen a Wraith take a head shot yet. That might take him out in one shot.

Posted by: Victus Aug 8th 2005, 12:36 PM

A Goa'uld with a wraith host, what a scary concept.

Sounds like a good episode

Posted by: Dafmeister Aug 8th 2005, 1:55 PM

QUOTE(sg69leader @ Aug 8th 2005, 6:44 AM)
Yeah, thats true but we haven't seen a Wraith take a head shot yet.  That might take him out in one shot.
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Im sure we've seen the Wraith take headshots. I recall seeing one of the team shoot one of the Wraith in the head quite a few times and he still got up.

Posted by: Lagger Aug 9th 2005, 1:22 AM

they know about that vaccine that makes wraith unable to eat people. and it also killed the wraith that tried it. y not just go do some testing, adn figure out how that toxin is created, or how the wraith was killed by it. then instead of p90's... go around with dart guns or sumthing...

Posted by: Dafmeister Aug 9th 2005, 3:44 PM

QUOTE(Lagger @ Aug 9th 2005, 7:22 AM)
they know about that vaccine that makes wraith unable to eat people. and it also killed the wraith that tried it. y not just go do some testing, adn figure out how that toxin is created, or how the wraith was killed by it. then instead of p90's... go around with dart guns or sumthing...
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That vaccine only worked in 50% of the population, the other 50% died from it's side effects. That's why the Atloantis team didnt use it.

Posted by: Alosel Aug 9th 2005, 6:21 PM

Well, there must be a reason for that. Could be something to do with the physiology, or maybe they have the Ancient Gene, which helps them accept the drug.
It would be good if they did some sort of tests to find why pepole's bodies accepted it and why some didn't.

Posted by: Lagger Aug 10th 2005, 4:33 AM

the other problem is that if the wraith were sorta like humans.... then something like a virus that can kill wraith could probably kill humans.....

*sigh, if only there was a way to conatain a replicator in a shield buble, and package it over to atlantis to let lose against the wraith.....

wraith dont ahve inter-galactic hyper drives...and since they regenerate, it will be a a touph fight... and they have self destruct written over almost everything they have created.... while their buzy steal all of the galaxies ancient tech and make a run back home biggrin.gif

Posted by: NoDot Aug 10th 2005, 10:41 AM

QUOTE(Lagger @ Aug 10th 2005, 4:33 AM)
*sigh, if only there was a way to conatain a replicator in a shield buble, and package it over to atlantis to let lose against the wraith.....
Well, just cover the generator with N_3: it's (virtually, in theory) indestructable.

Posted by: That Chevron Guy Aug 10th 2005, 11:09 PM

QUOTE(sg69leader @ Aug 8th 2005, 12:44 AM)
Yeah, thats true but we haven't seen a Wraith take a head shot yet.  That might take him out in one shot.
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Actually Lt. Ford killed a Wraith with a head shot in 'Rising' when he came to Sheppards rescue. The Wraith looked like it died instantly.

Posted by: Lagger Aug 11th 2005, 4:25 AM

or go back to the gulf war days and use depleted uranium... wot chance to they ahve regenerating if it blows a giant hole in em, melting their insides

Posted by: mini_jack Sep 18th 2005, 4:21 AM

i think that would do it. i was woundering if they lost an arm or leg would it re grow

Posted by: dr lee Oct 11th 2005, 7:07 PM

i've just noticed this on GATEWORLD


i have no idea how they get landry in the episode.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 11th 2005, 7:32 PM

I would assume from the article that went with it that they just talked to Landry. Its says they talk to the SGC on a weekly timeline.

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When a beacon is set off alerting the Wraith to Atlantis's presence, suspicion is thrown on a newcomer from Earth.

NEWS AND SPOILERS
(Newest information is added to the bottom)

# Guest characters include Dr. Alison Seagle, Colonel Steven Caldwell (Mitch Pileggi), and Dr. Radek Zelenka (David Nykl).

# The city of Atlantis has laid hidden from the Wraith for months, but all of that may be about to change.

Rodney McKay introduces Colonel Sheppard to Dr. Alison Seagle, a scientist who has just arrived on Atlantis from Earth (via the Daedalus, now making regular trips between Earth and the Pegasus Galaxy). Seagle is joining McKay's team, and Sheppard irritates McKay by flirting with her.

The Atlantis base is now making weekly contact with Stargate Command on Earth, dialing in to relay updated information.

Meanwhile, Teyla asks Dr. Beckett to join her in a trip to the mainland. She is greatly concerned about her old Athosian friend Charin, who apparently needs medical attention.

The team is now able to hide the city of Atlantis with a massive cloaking device, but someone has set off a beacon. The Wraith have been alerted, and two Wraith Cruisers are detected moving toward the planet by long-range sensors. Though Sheppard once had an affinity for Dr. Seagle, he now has reason to treat her with an air of suspicion. Her strange behavior even causes McKay to suspect that she has betrayed them.
(GateWorld news report)

# As previously reported, the Atlantis team scrambles to protect the lost city of the Ancients once again when someone among them apparently alerts the Wraith to their presence (story). Wraith ships are on the way, and some suspect that a scientist who has just arrived from Earth, Dr. Allison Seagle, may be the culprit.

But the enemy within is no mere Wraith sympathizer: A Goa'uld has infiltrated the base. In addition to the Wraith ships now en route, a bomb has been set to detonate, forcing Sheppard and his team to race against the clock and determine who is human and who is under Goa'uld control.
(GateWorld news report)

# Actress Jaime Ray Newman ("Lt. Laura Cadman" in "Duet") will return for a second episode, she reported in an interview. From her description, it sounds like "Critical Mass" -- and it sounds like the writers may have rewritten the role of Dr. Allison Seagle as Lt. Cadman.

"Cadman comes back to help find a bomb on board the ship [sic]. She is also a suspected, of course by McKay, of planting the bomb. I was so complimented that they wanted me back. You see the burgeoning romance with Beckett as well, and how much it frustrates McKay. I'd love to do future episodes with the Atlantis crew!"
(Actress Jaime Ray Newman, in an interview with D?lirium)

Posted by: ha'tak Oct 11th 2005, 7:34 PM

another thing: How long has there been 2 phones on the Generals desk? wasnt it always just the red phone

Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 11th 2005, 7:49 PM

I recall a red one and sometimes a white one, though Hammond had all his personal stuff just dialed into the red one.

Posted by: ha'tak Oct 11th 2005, 8:06 PM

as in the line:

"General go hit #1 on speed-dail"
"My ganddaughters?"

Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 11th 2005, 8:26 PM

Ah...very good. Yes. That is the one I was thinking of too Ha'tak.

Also once I remember zooming in on the red phone once on a dvd to see what was written on the speed dial tabs. Pathetic I know but I am a die-hard fan. smile.gif

Posted by: Stargate Master Oct 12th 2005, 12:41 AM

More pictures should have been released, we don't really get much excitement with just one pic. Anyway....it sounds good and hopefully more pics will be released soon.

Posted by: ha'tak Oct 12th 2005, 6:18 PM

QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Oct 11th 2005, 8:26 PM)
Ah...very good. Yes. That is the one I was thinking of too Ha'tak.

Also once I remember zooming in on the red phone once on a dvd to see what was written on the speed dial tabs. Pathetic I know but I am a die-hard fan. smile.gif
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I did the same thing now I dont feel as obsessed

Posted by: Auntie Em! Oct 12th 2005, 9:06 PM

QUOTE(ha'tak @ Oct 12th 2005, 7:18 PM)
I did the same thing now I dont feel as obsessed
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Nope. Nothing wrong with it Ha'tak. In "The Fifth Race" I zoomed in and slow motioned the instructions that Jack came up with to fix the gate where Carter and Teal'c were roasting in the sun. Try it. It is amazing the details on that map when it would never be seen on the show on the tv. They did not need to do it but they did it. That is how much they care about Stargate. It is our job to find those gems hidden all around. biggrin.gif

Posted by: kennykiller Dec 3rd 2005, 9:51 PM

CAPTION CONTEST FOR: LANDRY ON THE PHONE.

I'll start.

"What do you mean, the pie is gone?!?!"
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Posted by: cptdrl Dec 4th 2005, 2:08 PM

sounds like a great one biggrin.gif

Posted by: Arigas Dec 5th 2005, 7:01 PM

Just want to make note that Atlantis didn't actually have a cloak generator installed....They tied the shield grid into a puddle jumpers cloaking device.

McKay: "We cloak it."
Zalinka: "Yes, yes. The puddle jumpers have cloaking technology which hides them to the naked eye and wraith scans. If we simply remove one of the cloak generators from the puddle jumper-"
McKay: "I wouldn't say simply, but yes, by interfacing a jumpers stealth mode generator with the city shield we should be able to rendr the city invisibile."

Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 5th 2005, 7:33 PM

QUOTE(Arigas @ Dec 6th 2005, 12:01 AM)
Just want to make note that Atlantis didn't actually have a cloak generator installed....They tied the shield grid into a puddle jumpers cloaking device.

Yes, we know that. What's your point?

Posted by: Arigas Dec 6th 2005, 12:47 PM

People were talking as though Atlantis already had one before that.

Oh, and this was a slightly odd, but still good episode.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Dec 6th 2005, 9:11 PM

Arigas shhhhh we do not talk about the episode in the spoiler section but in the episode section. Not everyone has seen the episode.

Posted by: GTSchultz Dec 8th 2005, 7:12 PM

QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Jun 22nd 2005, 4:42 PM)
How does the Daedalus make regular trips to the Milky Way? I thought they needed the ZPM to augment the hyperdrive, but isn't it being used to power Atlantis?
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I believe in one episode, it was stated that it takes the Daedalus 17 days to make the trip to Earth.

Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 8th 2005, 7:37 PM

QUOTE(GTSchultz @ Dec 9th 2005, 12:12 AM)
I believe in one episode, it was stated that it takes the Daedalus 17 days to make the trip to Earth.
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That was an old post that was answered a few posts below. Isn't it common sense that the question would have been answered this far into season 2?

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