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Stargate Information Archive _ Atlantis Season 2 _ 204 - Duet
Posted by: Arcady Jul 29th 2005, 11:43 PM
Season 2, Episode 4 - Duet
Air Dates - US: August 5 2005, Canada: August 8 2005
A run-in with Wraith technology leaves the consciousness of a precocious security officer in Dr. McKay's mind.
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Posted by: stargate_addict Aug 5th 2005, 10:44 PM
This episode was halarius, i loved how makay played out the charicter. LOL on Makay kissing Carson, The begining was a little low budget though when the dart crashed but other then that i give this ep. a 9/10 rating.
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 5th 2005, 11:07 PM
Good EP on my opinion. Hilarious to see Rodney being controled by a woman!
Did anyone else notice the SG1 thing like when Teal'c was stuck in the gate in 48 hours. Or the reference when Daniel had all the consisousness' in his mind in Lifeboat
What I liked
----Explination of Wraith Beam [Similar to the SG but no instantanious travel to another world]
----When Rodney falls Asleep 
----Rodney up in Another bedroom Naked
----Ronin beating the Snot out of those marines
----Rodney's Attempts With women
----Weir Ronin Scene
----Bekett Rodney Kiss I laughed my a*s off
Didn't like
----What Stargate_addict said: Opening seemed cheaply made
Overall a 8.5
Posted by: linda_lol Aug 5th 2005, 11:32 PM
Holy shiz! I give this ep. a 10/10! My favorite yet!
Man McKay is WAY funny in this episode! The kiss... finally revealed. I've never seen anything funnier. And when he SLEEPS! My gosh, there was drool on his face. He's such a funny weird guy! lol! Oh and the naked scene in his bed, well, the "don't look!" was kinda funny. Though, she has seen everything. *shivers*, lol!
Oh, and Ronan. Someone needs to teach him some manners with eating. It was funny though! He needs to eat though with his mouth closed. That drives me nuts when people don't do that.
And lastly, Beckett. Such a cool guy. It was really cool in the beginning when he ducks when the dart heads at em. Good timing! Beckett usually isn't into this sorta thing.
Posted by: Dr Vman Aug 5th 2005, 11:34 PM
This episode was complete garbage. Any time someone plays dual personalities it sucks, especially if they play the opposite sex and go overboard with that genders characteristics/movements. It wasn't funny at all and shouldn't be. Anyone that is a fan of this show should know that comedy doesn't fit in this style of writting. Action Adventure shows always bomb when they try to go funny. It sucked. Oh and the new character sucks too. He is your typical "bad ass". Very lame acting.
Posted by: usmctech99 Aug 5th 2005, 11:47 PM
Yeah, Hewlitt is awesome in this episode. I hope they bring Jaime Newman (Lt. Cadman) back for another few episodes, and make her a recurring character... seeing as how she's now Beckett's love interest, I think this is likely. And I especially liked the interaction between Ronan and Teyla... the shippers are going to go crazy with them.
Ok, why don't you just keep your T.V. off until BSG comes on?
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 5th 2005, 11:54 PM
Ok, why don't you just keep your T.V. off until BSG comes on?
Yes I agree with you completely Usmctech99. She could be like Col. Makepeace [Leader of SG3] a member of another SG team who we see alot.
And you bet the Shippers are going to crazy I give it 2 days before the thread starts
Posted by: Erised Aug 6th 2005, 12:21 AM
OMG it was so funny!
You know, I would never kiss someone of my own gender even if it was just for acting. Poor Rodney o.O She made him do it
Well you know what I mean.
The conversations were so funny! haha
OMG.. Ronan and Teyla o.O
I am actually not shipper of Atlantis .. yet
But it was a bit obvious..
and Ronan is sexy! 
Posted by: IndyJan Aug 6th 2005, 12:34 AM
Okay, loved this episode! I have been saying that I was getting tired of McKay's woe is me, me, me, me all the time. He has been way over the top in his attitude. But this episode was great. I loved having McKay playing a woman, and that scene with Cadman in McKay's body and visiting Beckett in the infirmary was classic. McKay definitely reminded me of Jack Lemmon in "Some Like It Hot." JL was very good at being a woman, LOL!
I would also love to see Cadman be a more permanent member of Atlantis. I'd like to see what Beckett will do with her.
I can't wait for Ronon to become part of Sheppard's team. Man does he know how to fight. 
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 6th 2005, 12:47 AM
I can't wait for Ronon to become part of Sheppard's team. Man does he know how to fight.
Theres another Shipper topic Beckett/ Cadman
Yes I want to see him litterly kick major Wraith a*s
Posted by: youngjediboy Aug 6th 2005, 2:17 AM
I agree that Hewlett went overboard with the "feminine" acting...
Cadman's military and didn't act anywhere near that "girly."
Anyway, she's a hotty though. Go Carson!
Anyone feel that Wier really doesn't seem to have any power? John basically recruited Ronan by himself and THEN got a soft "OK" from Wier afterwards.
Posted by: usmctech99 Aug 6th 2005, 2:32 AM
Don't forget, he's the military commander and he would be in charge of that stuff. And especially don't forget "the hug" from The Seige Part 3, she obviously has feelings for the guy and trusts his judgement... and she practicaly forced the Air Force to promote him.
Posted by: UltimateW Aug 6th 2005, 3:50 AM
this has to be the funnieste episode yet of atlantis 
The FunFactor in this eps is 10/10, also where Ronan fires his own gun 
Gotta agree Wier seemed a bit weak, I would have thought her to be a little more aggresive..
Posted by: RJLCyberPunk Aug 6th 2005, 10:36 AM
Did anyone else notice the SG1 thing like when Teal'c was stuck in the gate in 48 hours. Or the reference when Daniel had all the consisousness' in his mind in Lifeboat
What I liked
----Explination of Wraith Beam [Similar to the SG but no instantanious travel to another world]
----When Rodney falls Asleep
----Rodney up in Another bedroom Naked
----Ronin beating the Snot out of those marines
----Rodney's Attempts With women
----Weir Ronin Scene
----Bekett Rodney Kiss
I laughed my a*s off Didn't like
----What Stargate_addict said: Opening seemed cheaply made
Overall a 8.5
I wholeheartedly agree!
An 8/10!
Posted by: Doomgoggles Aug 6th 2005, 12:34 PM
Where teh heck was Colonel Caldwell and his opinions regarding Ronan Dex? You'd think he'd be in the loop. In fact, they made no mention of where the Daedalus was at all.
Posted by: Cha'Lok Aug 6th 2005, 12:43 PM
Funny ep 
8.5/10
Nice girls (the botanist and the female soldier who got in mckays head) btw 
If you look at the episode descriptions, there is a picture that I think wasn't in the episode? McKay kissing that female soldier I believe.. or actually it looks like the other way around.
Posted by: raptor125 Aug 6th 2005, 1:43 PM
8.5/10Nice girls (the botanist and the female soldier who got in mckays head) btw
If you look at the episode descriptions, there is a picture that I think wasn't in the episode? McKay kissing that female soldier I believe.. or actually it looks like the other way around.
I totally agree with you on this. WTF. I mean the only woman he kissed was that one he was on a date with. So where did this come into play?
Posted by: gooby Aug 6th 2005, 1:46 PM
First, a HUGE yay for bringing back my favorite Kate Heightmeyer!
Secondly, I for one LOVE it when they do comedy on sci-fi/action shows. I'm one of the few who actually liked the X-Files when they started doing more comical/satirical episodes. Especially on a show like Atlantis, they're always a nice balance for episodes like The Storm and Siege, plus Atlantis has a great cast for comic storylines. Paul McGillion, David Hewlett and David Nyki who plays Dr. Zelenka, all do a great job with the comic lines.
As for the new guy, meeeeh. Ronan Dex seems like a wooden character as does Teyla. Ford was a lame character and he had to become like half Wraith to catch my interest So far, everyone just seems to be gawking at Dex's physical superiority but that's going to get old soon. Can Jason Momoa act, he was after all on Baywatch? Let's hope his acting abilities have gotten better or it's going to be a very, very downward spiral for Atlantis.
Overall, I liked the episode, but god was that dinner scene awkward to watch, but I suppose that was the point. I must also agree that they seem to always go overboard with the female mannerisms. Oh well, can't have it all I guess. Still, good entertainment for the night. And for props for bringing back Heightmeyer back!
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 6th 2005, 1:46 PM
You mean this one that Arcady had by the Season 2 Guide for Duet
Posted by: mithwriter Aug 6th 2005, 3:06 PM
This was another solid story effort for the show. The characters continue to play off each other nicely, and there a couple of things that really got my attention.
he Ronan/Teyla scenes. Definitely some potential there for some great stuff. Good actors, good characters. I'll be interested to see how that develops, if she's going to be the person who 'civilizes" him, if you know what I mean. In turn, I could see him bringing out other apsects of her personality that she either didn't know she had or simply keeps in check.
I also love all the stuff between Zalenka and McKay. I like how the only way Zalenka could get Rodney off the project was pointing out Rodney's incorrect calculations to him. It seems the only way to connect to this guy is through his ego. Again, the scenes between them are really well done.
Have I not been paying attention, or is this the first time we've learned how the Wraith "transport" the people they beam up to their ships? Kinda explains a few things....it also made me wonder what happened to Lt. Ford after he got beamed onto a dart ship in the previous ep. Something to consider for later...
Also..yes, this ep had a variation on two previous Stargate eps, 48 Hours and Lifeboat, but again, the way the theme is handled and expanded on makes the difference, so I didn't mind that they were reusing concepts we've already seen explored in the original show becuase it was done in an interesting and involving way.
My only complaint was the way they handled the woman in Rodney's brain. I just would've had a personal preference to actually see her walking next to him as someone no one can see or hear instead of simply being a voice that takes him over when he lets his guard down.
Also liked the fourth act twist when it became apparent that the two of them couldn't stay in the same body anymore. They never brought it up before becuase they were so caught up in exploring the whole Rodney v. what's her name thing, so it kinda came out of nowhere, but I thought it was really well done, especially the last scene in the therapist's office. That was really good.
Posted by: Aquila Aug 6th 2005, 4:22 PM
Good question...I don't remember seeing that pictured anywhere during the show...by the looks of it, it seems the shot was taken while they were in the infirmiry.
Perhaps it will be in the Season box set version?I have to rate this one a 9/10 at least! Has got to be one of the funniest and not to mention, interesting viewpoints out of the Stargate series! The acting was very well done by David Hewlett. It would be nice to see a little more of Ronon Dex next time though...he really needs some character development!
Aquila the Ancient
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 6th 2005, 4:51 PM
The kiss between Cadman & McKay was the same story as the one between Sumner & Weir in 'Rising.' Most likely it'll be in as a blooper when the DVD's are released next year.
Posted by: gatenut Aug 6th 2005, 5:01 PM
This ep was great the way McKay played the female character was vary well done
I loved when McKay went to bed and Cadman's took over the unziping the shirt thing
before talking to Bekett was halarius, and lets not forget the kiss between McKay and
Bekett, my sister started singing IF LOVING YOU IS WRONG I DONT WANNA BE RIGHT during the kiss.
I dont even want to go there IMO a Bekett / Cadman thing could work.
The only thing that felt out of place was the scenes with Dex I meen who fights with there head down and hair in there face and then he does the Charlie's Angels hair thing if they had kept the story on McKay and Cadman it would have been a whole lot better
the other stuff slowed the story down IMO.
But over all vary good ep 9/10.
Posted by: Mental Case Aug 6th 2005, 5:55 PM
Funny episode. Although akward at times. One of the akward things seemed ronan's just general dullness in his responses.
Posted by: stargatefan566 Aug 6th 2005, 6:53 PM
the funniest atlantis episode ever. i like how ronan just seems to be laid back and doesn't care about what happens
Posted by: Aussie_Bloke Aug 6th 2005, 7:42 PM
So what happened to the dart...did we shoot it down??
Is Ronon impressed with our level of tech???
Is the dart fixable???
Did we even slavage it???
Posted by: Nnahrino Aug 6th 2005, 7:49 PM
I thought this episode was quite good. Funny in parts but also a little over the top in others. Also if they did it as a character only McKay could see then it would be like Urgo aswell.
Also did anyone else notice that Weir called sheppard by "Major" rather than Colonel when speaking to Ronan
8/10 One of the better comedy orientated episodes.
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 6th 2005, 7:55 PM
IMO a Bekett / Cadman thing could work. The only thing that felt out of place was the scenes with Dex I meen who fights with there head down and hair in there face and then he does the Charlie's Angels hair thing if they had kept the story on McKay and Cadman it would have been a whole lot better
I liked the switching between the Bekett / Cadman and Sheppard/ Ronin thing because we needed to learn a little about Ronin.
And the Charlie's Angles hair thing: I went and watched the EP again and noticed it and burst in to laughter. Thanks for the reference Gatenut
Posted by: Sighfienerd Aug 6th 2005, 8:00 PM
Jamesy - tell all!! I had not heard this. Sumner and Weir kissed?? What was the backstory?
I don't think he was dull - I think he came off as extremely wary and cautious. You'll remember that in the venue he was completely comfortable with (fighting) he was quite animated.
Posted by: usmctech99 Aug 6th 2005, 9:17 PM
I just watched it again, and you're right. Maybe she's still getting used to it... despite her being the one to get him promoted.
Posted by: chelstia Aug 6th 2005, 9:52 PM
OMG I love watching Rodney he drives me nuts cuz he's so arrogant but then he's so damn hilarious.
When he woke up the first time and realized Cadman was in his head was just great. Pretty much everytime she took over was awesome. I don't get why Beckett would agree to go with someone on a date, that I couldn't buy though. And the kiss made me just LMAO!
I still remember the first time McKay was introduced as a charactor I just hated him but now he can make the show.
And I don't like Ronan Dex either he's nothing but a grunt idiot with bad hair. Bring back Lt. Ford who now has a bit of a wraith complex.
Posted by: Kelewan Aug 6th 2005, 10:06 PM
Can anyone translate the Russian that Zalenka (sp?) say's when their trying to reverse enginner the transformer?
Posted by: usmctech99 Aug 6th 2005, 11:54 PM
He's not Russian, he's Czech, so that's likely the language he was speaking
Posted by: LyaOfTheNox Aug 7th 2005, 1:33 AM
This episode was one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Lol, is it just me, or is David Hewlett just a little too good at acting like a woman
The only problem is that in all the interviews Hewlett said that "['Duet' is] the kissing bandit episode, where I have to make out with every single person on the set, man, animal, and beast!" (from Gateworld.net), but I only counted 2...? doesn't sound like everyone on the set. *sigh* And here I was, exited that McKay was finaly going to get some...
hmmm, who's up for writing some missing scenes? Maybe McKay/Zelenka? 
Posted by: fan_83 Aug 7th 2005, 10:07 AM
this ep was great.. and i think why beckett agree to go with mckay cos mckay is such an idiot with women...
hopes mckay and beckett get their women...
Posted by: Raxor Aug 7th 2005, 11:39 AM
6/10 some good parts but more of a wasted episode i think... if the show had some decent writers maybe it could have been done better...
Posted by: youngjediboy Aug 7th 2005, 2:55 PM
I wonder how Shepard and the other military guys will think later on... "the nerds are getting more action than we are!"
Posted by: gatenut Aug 7th 2005, 3:21 PM
And the Charlie's Angles hair thing: I went and watched the EP again and noticed it and burst in to laughter. Thanks for the reference Gatenut
Think nothing of it .
But the Sheppard/ Ronin thing IMO it took away from the story
this should have been McKay /Cadman ep yes we need to know more about Ronan
but that could have been done in an another ep .
Posted by: Chakster Aug 7th 2005, 5:54 PM
first off! awesome ep.
Mckay is one of the smartest one on atlantis, if not the smartest, after all the sh*t the altantis exp. have been through, wier and sheppard still underestimates Mckays ability to function
wier and sheppard doesnt need to be patronizing and talking about Mckey like he wasnt around when Mckay still is in the room, that is just unacceptable for people in their position, wier and sheppard indirectly tells everyone that its okay for everyone to crack jokes when someone is not well
and wier should have talked to mckay ALONE, not making a statement infront of everyone, is it so fu**ing hard to grab mckays arm and just walk around a corner and tell him that he must see the shrink?
by now weir should know that mckay is a proud man, and undermine his state of mind infront of all the science group, just to make a point and to show who still runs the show, thats low, she really lacks leadership abilities.
Mckay is a seniorstaff, and he should be treated like one.
Posted by: fan_83 Aug 7th 2005, 7:29 PM
chakster: if they were on earth and not involved with access with alien tech, then i would have agreed with you.. they are in pegasus adn is dealing with unknown and more advanced tech everday...
this sort of thing has sort of become common to them and no they are smart enough not to take it personally....
and when she did that with mckay.... shes out on a limb trusting what he said about the other personality... i mean htey have no proof of what he said.. she took his word on faith alone... shes not putting him down but is worried.... i mean if you are on earth and you go to work yelling to someone who is not there.. you think your boss is going to ask to talk to you privately...esp since yo ujust screwed up big time????
please consider their circumstances... before saying weir is crap and ununderstanding
Posted by: hobo_joe20 Aug 7th 2005, 10:50 PM
What, shows like Stargate, which is now going into it's 9th season?
Posted by: usmctech99 Aug 8th 2005, 12:15 AM
program Sarcasm()
begin
Yes, what were they thinking? Humor? In Stargate SG-1? They lost all their fans the moment they went down that black hole. I mean, who would ever want to watch, or even be a part of, a show that has fun every once in while? Especially sci-fi shows. There's a rule book somewhere that forbids humor in sci-fi isn't there?
The producers should be ashamed they allowed this behavior!
end //end of Sarcasm
I love the humor in SG-1. I think it made it a better show. It's one the reasons I own all 7 seasons on DVD. (with season 8 coming out on Oct 4th of course)
I know this is off-topic, so please forgive me
Posted by: ha'tak Aug 8th 2005, 2:39 AM
Yes I woulndt have watched EPs like Window of Op. or Urgo if there was a ban on Sci-Fi humor. Humor has made SG what it is today. And I woulndnt have it any other way
Posted by: Chakster Aug 8th 2005, 3:25 AM
this sort of thing has sort of become common to them and no they are smart enough not to take it personally....
and when she did that with mckay.... shes out on a limb trusting what he said about the other personality... i mean htey have no proof of what he said.. she took his word on faith alone... shes not putting him down but is worried.... i mean if you are on earth and you go to work yelling to someone who is not there.. you think your boss is going to ask to talk to you privately...esp since yo ujust screwed up big time????
please consider their circumstances... before saying weir is crap and ununderstanding
you want proof? they have girls poker night, right? the girl inside McKays head could have said something that McKay wouldnt know and then McKay tell the girls infront of Wier, what about that for trust and going out on a limb.
and McKay didnt screw up, he was just talking very loud, and when he was telling the voice in his head (Lt. Cadman) to just shut up for one moment to let McKay think, then Wier sucky timing says and says "Rodney" ofcourse McKay will respond aggressive after that Lt. Cadman has nagged the crap out of Mckay by saying "rodney, rodney, rodney" while he is talking to Zelenka
you should agree with me when they are on atlantis and dealing with alien tech, they dont know what wraith tech can have for inpact on the human body,
and they dont have proof that here isnt another personality inside Mckay, they have been around more freaky stuff then what just happened to McKay
so instead of really understanding what just happened, they just think rodney is crazy, wier and sheppard dont believe in mckay, but if one of the others would have been in the same mess as mckay, they surely would be more understanding.
If I were at work screaming/talking would to someone that wasnt there, my boss better have the leadership abilities to escort me elsewhere where he and I can have a chat, what Wier did, she really fu**ed up for a civilian leader.
I mean is it so fu**ing hard to say,: hey Rodney, a word.. alone
then they go around the corner and explain that he need to talk to the shrink and thats it. making it a fu**ing big deal infront of McKays people
it must be so humiliating to stand down and walk away infront of his crew, that tells that McKay is unfit to run his group, and he isnt.
Posted by: ancient01 Aug 8th 2005, 5:55 AM
I think I actually liked the actress that played Cadman. Hopefully we'll see more of her. Some of DH's acting was, as others have stated, over the top, but I think he had to go there, or it wouldn't be as funny. I'm glad they finally explained the tech behind the darts' beaming. Decent episode...
Posted by: fan_83 Aug 8th 2005, 9:46 AM
chakster: the point is that weir trusted rodney on his word that cadman is in his head... they have no scientific proof otherwise.. and cadman didn't volunteer any information to show that shes in his head...
also if rodney is as smart as he think he is..shouldn;t he know better than to moan and bitch at zelenka as hes working to help him?
shouldn;t rodney be talking calmly isntead of screaming??
not to mention the fact that its obvious that rodney is temporarily mentally unstable atm and weir needed to confront rodney and have the guards escort him out by force if necessasry....
also you don;t seem to mind the fact taht mckay ignored beckett orders to rest.... shouldn;t mckay rest and let beckett ensure hes alright before running off??
in term of med condition, beckett overrules anyone else....so mckay has already ignored orders once... and weir has enough brains to see that mckay has to be force off this problem...
Posted by: Stargate Master Aug 8th 2005, 11:51 AM
Great comedy episode here. I have to say what a great character Cadman is, I say make her a recurring character, I just find her an excellent edition to Atlantis. One of the reasons is when she was feeding lines to McKay when he was having dinner, that had me laughing.
Another great thing about this episode is when Ronan was fighting with Col. Sheppard's men. Really great combat moves there.
Overall this episode would get a 9/10 rating from me, Great ep!
Posted by: Chakster Aug 8th 2005, 2:58 PM
also if rodney is as smart as he think he is..shouldn;t he know better than to moan and bitch at zelenka as hes working to help him?
shouldn;t rodney be talking calmly isntead of screaming??
not to mention the fact that its obvious that rodney is temporarily mentally unstable atm and weir needed to confront rodney and have the guards escort him out by force if necessasry....
also you don;t seem to mind the fact taht mckay ignored beckett orders to rest.... shouldn;t mckay rest and let beckett ensure hes alright before running off??
in term of med condition, beckett overrules anyone else....so mckay has already ignored orders once... and weir has enough brains to see that mckay has to be force off this problem...
McKay knows that he is the smartest guy around, bitch and moan, yeah like that is a new thing about McKay, and he always shouts at zelenka, and no one cares, thats the way McKay run things,
and if becket let him out, then its no problem, otherwise mckay would still be in sickbay, and where did McKay ignored Becketts orders? I didnt see that.
Posted by: Pitry Aug 8th 2005, 3:49 PM
Sigh: The Weir-Sumner kiss is either a joke by Higginson-Wussname or a promotional piccie meant to confuse the fans, like that Carter-Daniel kiss in Ressurection.
Ha, looks like I'm the complete opposite this week from most people. I found this episode too cheesy, too... I don't know. It didn't try to do anything I felt. From one side, you have McKay in a storyline that could have been cute but was missed IMHO - also I'm quite surprised. So far, when Stargate did a cross-person episode, they really put effort into body language and mannerism - I'm thinking Holiday, Jack, Teal'c and in the end also Daniel adopting each-other's body language to make it belivable - or Lifeboat where MS changed it - reliably. Now I know DH is a fantastic actor, and he more than often proved so in Atlantis. But I found the entire Cadman-taking-over sequences to be too much exaggarated, too much drag-queen - too much a guy trying to imitate a woman, and I'm quite sure Hewlett could pull of something much, much better.
Ronon Dex... sigh. I thought they brought him in because Ford wasn't working. What's with the silent warrior bollocks? So far they've done all cliches, no real substance. As I said in a couple of threads, when cliches are in the story, and are well written, I don't mind. But you can't build a character on cliches. Not if its to be a substential, working character. I hope they give him some lines, I hope they develop him a bit more than the silent-warrior -alien schtick, and please, please, please, I hope they stop showing us how "tough" he is. We got the point. No point making Atlantis into Hercules or Andromeda.
That being said, it did have its moments. And as the saying goes, "A picture's worth more than a thousand words"... Ha, I wonder just how popular McKay-Beckett slash is gonna get... *snigger* That was such a heart-warming, wonderful kiss, teehee. (including Rodeny's face afterards and the mannerism that "after that, kill me for all I care!"
Posted by: marsbargirl Aug 8th 2005, 8:59 PM
I loved this episode, but then i always love episodes with lots of beckett or Mckay and this one had both, my dream come true. Hewlett doing the duel personality was hilarious (i think some of his female gestures were a bit overdone but if anything that just made it more funny).
Not sure what to make of the new guy though, he just seems to sit around and look sulky i suppose 7 years of being chased by the wraith wouldn't make you a particularly cheerful soul, but all he seems to do is fight, fight some more, look sulky and eat (with appalling mannors).
Anyway back to the more interesting people; I feel very sorry for poor Zelenka the way his hair is all ruffled when he is first on screen, probaly from the stress of tinkering with a wraith dart off world and having two peoples lives in his hands (don't ask me how it straightens it self out in the wink of an eye but the initial ruffle is very cute), the way he jumps like mad when the spark comes off the Dart and when Mckay calls him Dr. Fumbles McStupid in front of Sheppard, Weir and all the little science people around, the poor guy tries so hard as is clearly very clever but Rodney always shouts at him and makes out he is stupid. How does Zelenka put up with Rodney?
I love the scene where Rodney is Fumbling through his date and Beckett is watching in horror, and then cadman takes over Mckays body, kisses the botanist and leaves and Mckay-Cadman and McKay start argueing with her/himself in the corridor it is so Hilarious.
But predictably my favourite scene was the Beckett/McKay-Cadman kiss, more for McKays reaction to it than for the kiss it self.
I give this episode a 9/10 for concentrating on many of my favourite characters, being very funny, giving Carson Beckett a love interest and only giving Teyla about 5 lines, in three short scenes, espicially given the fact that in one of them she gets beaten up. (it would have got 10/10 if she hadn't spoken at all, and just got beatten up.)
Posted by: startreksuite Aug 8th 2005, 9:00 PM
Ha, looks like I'm the complete opposite this week from most people. I found this episode too cheesy, too... I don't know. It didn't try to do anything I felt. From one side, you have McKay in a storyline that could have been cute but was missed IMHO - also I'm quite surprised. So far, when Stargate did a cross-person episode, they really put effort into body language and mannerism - I'm thinking Holiday, Jack, Teal'c and in the end also Daniel adopting each-other's body language to make it belivable - or Lifeboat where MS changed it - reliably. Now I know DH is a fantastic actor, and he more than often proved so in Atlantis. But I found the entire Cadman-taking-over sequences to be too much exaggarated, too much drag-queen - too much a guy trying to imitate a woman, and I'm quite sure Hewlett could pull of something much, much better.
Ronon Dex... sigh. I thought they brought him in because Ford wasn't working. What's with the silent warrior bollocks? So far they've done all cliches, no real substance. As I said in a couple of threads, when cliches are in the story, and are well written, I don't mind. But you can't build a character on cliches. Not if its to be a substential, working character. I hope they give him some lines, I hope they develop him a bit more than the silent-warrior -alien schtick, and please, please, please, I hope they stop showing us how "tough" he is. We got the point. No point making Atlantis into Hercules or Andromeda.
That being said, it did have its moments. And as the saying goes, "A picture's worth more than a thousand words"... Ha, I wonder just how popular McKay-Beckett slash is gonna get... *snigger* That was such a heart-warming, wonderful kiss, teehee. (including Rodeny's face afterards and the mannerism that "after that, kill me for all I care!"
yeah, maybe Hewlett could have done a better imitation, but come on, it was hilarious! I thought it was hard to pretend to be two people in one body, never mind two genders. I'm not thrilled with Ronon Dex, he's no Teal'c. He can be silent, but he doesn't need to mumble! Yeah, it looks like those slashers have some fuel for their fire! Beckett is going to have some issues later. Do I like Rodney as a woman or the woman that was inside him! Aggrh!
Posted by: Auntie Em! Aug 9th 2005, 8:03 AM
Ok I SOOO loved this episode. I was not sure the first time I watched it, but I was half asleep when I saw it. I rewatched it and I died laughing. I was in tears in places. It is just stupendious. Someone said they thought Hewitt over acted the female parts but I don't think so. It is a woman in a big clunky mans body. What she is telling the body to do in graceful movement actually looks clunky and ackward in a mans body. It was very funny.
My fav scene was the one in the hallways. Where they fight for the control over McKays body. The rock paper scissors scene. I was just falling over in tears.
Also the scene just before McKay has his first seizure and he is yelling and that HUGE ball of phlegmn flies out and sails past the camera. I was like EUUUU! Next thing he falls over in seizure.
I loved this episode the best of all Atlantis eps ever made. Very nice.
Posted by: ted_simple Aug 9th 2005, 8:49 AM
Beyond this it became obvious that Cadman was overacting on purpose. She enjoyed being in a man's body. It became undeniably clear when she kissed Rodney's date like Mr Charming. Yes she had an opportunity to toy with fantasies, and she did.
Funny you should mention it, that's the last scene I re-watched a minute ago. It was even topping Cadman's stunt before towards Rodney's date. Because it was an authentic situation and the two were bantering and fighting at the same time.
All in all, there was lots of interaction in this episode, which is very promising. The story was flat. Boring as Runner. I hope they'll get something to do soon.
Posted by: Asgard1 Aug 10th 2005, 1:11 PM
I wonder if Teyla and Ronin will hook-up?
Posted by: stargatefan566 Aug 10th 2005, 6:38 PM
no teyla is really ugly. she has a man face
Posted by: chelstia Aug 10th 2005, 11:04 PM
I never heard of the Carter-Daniel kiss! When/where/what was that?
Anybody got a pic?
I agree, Ronan Dex well, I just think he's nothing really. And also Ford wasn't really working before but now with his wraith complex he's a much cooler charactor they should bring back. Plus he's way cuter.
Posted by: Chakster Aug 11th 2005, 3:59 AM
hahahahaha
I didnt say it, but I agree with you
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 11th 2005, 4:34 PM
In 'Rising' her hair was kinda funny & that really took the look off her, However as the season got further along & especially in S2. I think she looks damn hot!
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Posted by: CitizenK Aug 12th 2005, 8:10 AM
Well, I thought this episode wasn't bad. Okay, technically, I've seen this before. They'd done something similar on other sci-fi shows. Take any of the ST series; either the swapping of bodies or transporter malfunctions, it's been done before.
However, that aside, I love Rodney McKay !! Gosh, he is such a prat. I love him. And I just don't know why Zelenka hasn't hauled off and slugged him yet. Talk about restraint. I do like the relationship between McKay and Zelenka. They play off each other very well.
Ronen Dex ? He's certainly the strong silent type. I like the dreadlocks. Although, having seen him in only a couple of episodes, I really don't know what to think about him. I guess at this point, I'll let the writers develop his character more to see where he goes. At this point, he seems to be playing the Worf or Teal'c equivalent.
All in all, I'd say this episode was a 6 or 7 out of ten. it's not that it wasn't fun, it was something I'd seen before. However, watching McKay kiss Beckett was most definitely a TEN out of TEN !!
Now, that was hilarious !!!
Posted by: fan_83 Aug 12th 2005, 9:22 AM
can anyone plz give the translation for what zelenka and his assistant says in their native language...plz....
Posted by: axg Aug 12th 2005, 4:20 PM
Well the german stuff was not much nor funny.. "Ich wusste, dass das passiert" -> "I KNEW this would happen.."
for the zelenka part, no clue
Posted by: wack Aug 12th 2005, 8:57 PM
I must say this episode was crap. I admit i laughed at some points but thats all i did. Ronan seems pretty ***. Whats with the wooden character harbouring no emotions in this show? It worked for Judge but not for Luttrell and this new guy. I wish they would quit making focusing on character like these and have more Ford and Genii (preferbaly with Colm Meany).
Also the gay kiss. Urgh disgusting 
. Who the hell came up with that?
Posted by: JamesyBHOY Aug 13th 2005, 10:20 AM
for the zelenka part, no clue
For Zelenka go to the thread below:
http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12651
The German Scientist says "Das ist wie bei der Geburt meines Neffen" when pulling out the Wraith transporter box. This translates as "This is just like my nephew's birth."
Then when the explosion occurs, she says "Verdammt, ich wusste dass das passiert!" This translates as "Damn, I knew this was going to happen!"
Posted by: Ilzy Aug 14th 2005, 3:21 AM
I like DH better and better with each Atlantis episode. That guy is brilliant! I hated McKay in SG-1 but here in Atlantis he's a true pearl I especially liked the scene a la Gollum/Smeagol
The episode was really cool but with this and some other Atantis episodes I'm starting to get the feeling that Stargate is reproducing itself. "The Intruder" seemed to be a crossover of "Entity" and "Tangent" (both: SG-1 season 4) and "Duet" really reminded me of "Lifeboat".
Posted by: Pitry Aug 14th 2005, 10:40 AM
Yeah, it was funny... but the level of the slapstick... over-doing it. I think I'd have enjoyed it a lot, lot more if he'd toned down, jsut a bit. What I liked msot about Hopliday - or what I thought was so brilliant with Mochael Welsh in Fragile Balance was the accuracy. That's what I would have really enjoyed.
LoL at issues!
Poor, poor, Carson. I think it seems tho McKay's gonna be a lot more traumatised over this. *snigger* TBH I knew there's gonna be a kiss, I read somewhere there's a kiss scene and that after the rehearsal Paul McGillion (Beckett) sent flowers to David Hewlett.... Teehee!Chelstia - it was the promo pictures for Resurrection, episode 19 season 7... wait. *goes and looks it up* http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4954&st;=0
Posted by: Circe Aug 19th 2005, 9:37 PM
After episode 13 in season one this has to be my favorite episode. I almost died when McKay called Zelenka fumbles Mc?stupid. I have rewound that part again and again.
I don?t think that the acting when Hewlett was supposed to be Cadamn was over the top, it was supposed to be funny.
I wish Zelenka had a bigger part in the show. He is now my favorite after McKay. They put Becket in the opening credits, they should add Zelenka as well. And Zelenka is WAY more interesting than Becket. Someone said why doesn?t Zelenka punch Rodney for being such an ass to him; come on, McKay could kick his ass. That?s why he doesn?t slug him one.
I give this episode 10/10 because I also like Ronan, in fact (I know this will get people going) I like him better than Teal?c already. I am so worried that when SG-1 ends they will pull a Worf STNG to DS9 move, and put Teal'c in Atlantis.
Posted by: startreksuite Aug 22nd 2005, 6:58 AM
Great episode! It gave us a chance to see Rodney as something than a scientist, and broadened his scope as an actor in attempting to portray how he would act as a woman. I was a little concerned near the end of the episode that the Atlantis team would be forced to kill off the female soldier's conciousness so that Rodney would survive. As for the kiss, well... got to do something for the slashers. 
Posted by: Circe Aug 29th 2005, 8:47 PM
I have to say that I was dissapointed. It looked like two straight men kissing, possibbly even related...There was no passion.
Posted by: attack Aug 30th 2005, 10:42 AM
This is my favourite episode so far. ( I've seen up to Instinct so far.. )
Posted by: The Shadow Sep 9th 2005, 9:55 PM
Did anyone notice that when Weir talked to Ronan, she refered Sheppard as Major instead of Colonel or Lt. Colonel.
Posted by: Christy Sep 10th 2005, 12:38 AM
I don't think Ronan Dex is meant to be like Teal'c...i thouhgt that was why Teyla was in the series, as a helper, person to be able to negotiate and help to form alliances.
This has to be one of the best episodes i have seen, mostly for the comedy of it and i was glad to see so much of beckett, that was pretty good.
We got to see how Mckay is awkward with females and i guess we also see how he hasnt had much experience with them...but i think some of it could have been left out but i guess this was meant to be like a comedy episode.
I didnt want to know who slept in the nude and who didnt...sorta reminded me of an australian movie where 2 sexes swapped bodies and they got to experience being the other gender.
So what im wondering.....does she have a crush on beckett and will we be seeing more of her and will anything happen between her and Beckett?
He deserves some happiness...it was pretty funny though.
And i think she knew what she was drinking when Mckay was drinking so much to loosen up.
Posted by: grayflamingoes Sep 26th 2005, 12:36 PM
Okay, *rubs hands together and takes a deeeeep breath*
AWEEEEEEEEESSSSSOMMMMEEEEE!
Definately my favorite episode of all time.
The kiss was a little disturbing, I hoped he (well, she) wasn't going to do it. But I'm glad they put it in because heck, if I loved a guy, wasn't religious, and was stuck in a guy's body about to most likely die, I would've done it to--disturbing though it may be. Even disgusting as it may be. You just have to see it for what it is--a chick kissing a guy she likes, and forget about her being stuck in Mckay. @___@
Anyway, that's not why I like the episode! I thought that David Hewlett did an incredible job in that episode. Astounding! It was so much fun to watch him. It was very believable and it was funny. I admire him as an actor, for the great job he did. If he wasn't such a good actor, that wouldn't have been nearly as interesting.
It burns me that they didn't do anything with that episode afterwards! Where did Lieutenant Laura Cadman go? It's like she fell of the face of the Earth... 
Annnnd.... What about Katie Brown, the girl he liked? Hm? I hate that they teased us like that, the happenings there should carry over into other episodes.
Posted by: Dafmeister Nov 9th 2005, 4:05 PM
This has got to be the best Stargate: Atlantis episode to date. I loved every minute of it. Beckett's line at the beginning:
"Rodney, you have a date...with a woman."
That was the funniest thing I have heard on the show in a long time. Everything in this epiosde worked so well.
The scene where Cadman first took control of McKay's body, after he fell asleep, when she he walked into the Infirmary was brilliant.
Posted by: samandjackforever Nov 9th 2005, 4:10 PM
OH MY GOD!!!!!!! This had to be the funniest epsidoe ever.
I haven't laughed like that in SOOOOO long. My mum, and sister were laughing so hard too. It was the scenes when Cadman took over McKay's body, the way he wore that shirt when he went to see Beckett and touched his hand, BRILLIANT!!!
After the dinner, when McKay and Cadman were fighting for control of the body... absolutely outstanding acting by David. I just HAD to put in the scene....
McKAY: Give me back my body! We have to go back. (As Laura, as his walk changes to a more bouncy step) And do what? I bet that is the most honest you've ever been with a girl and it wasn't even you! (He struggles to walk as Rodney tries to take over.) (As Rodney) Why are you doing this? (As Laura, as he stops walking) We're just trying to do too much too fast, McKay. (As Rodney) We should, we should go back. (As Laura, putting his hand on his hip) Nope! (As Rodney)
Alright ? rock, paper, scissors. I'm the left hand, you're the right. (Laura doesn't answer immediately.) Cadman! (As Laura)
Fine. (He holds his fists out in front of him and jerks them three times before opening them. The left hand is rock; the right hand is paper.) (As Laura) Yay! Paper beats rock ? we leave. (His right hand points in the direction they should go, but then struggles as Rodney tries to pull it back.) (As Rodney) No, we ... (His right hand snaps back and slaps him around the face.) Ow! (As Laura) Get a hold of yourself, man! (He walks off, in a direction away from Katie's quarters.)
((((Transcribed by CALLIE SULLIVAN for Yahoo! Groups : SG1_Transcripts))))
AND OH GOD! when Cadman took over one last time, raised his/her hand, and went and kissed Beckett, i was crying. my sister fell off the sofa she was laughing so hard.
David Hewlett and Paul McGillion must have had SO much fun doing that ep. I hope they do a commentary on it for the DVD, and BOY is that a DVD i'm gonna get.
The episode was pure genius, definately the best and without a doubt the funniest ep ever. It was the kiss that made me almost hyperventilate with laughter. Bet the slash shipper will have a field day with that scene (even though Cadman was in control)
I LOVED it!!!!!!!
But
what happened to Ford, the credits he's GONE!!!!!!!!
Posted by: theladyminx Nov 9th 2005, 4:32 PM
I haven't replied to anything in this forum for absolutley ages, but I had to comment on this epsiode!! It was fantastic, and I thought that David Hewlett's acting was first rate.
He managed to portray Cadman well (but not too over the top) and Cadman pretending to be Mckay was convincing as well, and you could clearly tell between the two.
Definitley one of the best atlantis epsidoes so far, and I'm also beginning to think Ronan will be a great addition to the cast!
Posted by: ali Nov 9th 2005, 4:40 PM
Oh. My. God. LOL 
That is the funniest episode they've ever made!
I couldn't actually breathe for laughing...I've been looking forward to this ep for ages and it really delivered. That bit where Rodney went to sleep and then Cadman just took over his body..such a good bit of acting from David Hewlett there. And that kiss may one of the funniest things I have ever seen- the look on Carson's face afterwards was just classic!
"I am not crazy! I just have another consciousness in my brain!"
I'm really liking Ronan as well..I didn't like him that much last week but he seems like a good character. Also loving the new credits...go Paul Mcgillion having a place in the credits! Woo! Such a sweet moment at the end where he put his hand on Cadman's..awww
Posted by: glom Nov 9th 2005, 4:52 PM
Well, they asked for it. Again inspired by the very witty http://www.cynicscorner.org/index.html but written by me.
TREKKISM OF THE WEEK: A goddamn transporter accident! Usually, when shows run out of ideas they begin to cannibalise their own old episodes first. Here, they've skipped that phase and gone straight to cannibalising another show, which in turn was cannibalising another show, which in turn was cannibalising another show. We've got more cannibals than the ancient South Pacific. The idea of prisoners being stored in the transporter buffer was lame anyway and the notion that Cadman's consiousness was perfectly transferred to McKay's body with everything else normal, while her body remained perfectly intact in the transporter buffer was classical Trek absurdity.
REVENGE OF THE WEEK: Well Voyager did steal 'Beneath the Surface' in their double episode 'Workforce' so I suppose it was only fair that SG turn around and steal 'Body and Soul'. The only thing is they already used up that credit with 'Space Race', which was heavy lifted from 'Drive' so it looks like Voyager is looking the more ethical at the moment (although subjecting us to 'Fair Haven' pretty much squanders that).
HANDWAVING OF THE WEEK: This transformer, what does it do again? Something about converting to the right form of energy. What energy would that be? Voltage? Frequency? I suppose pseudoscientific handwaving around the idea of some abstract concepts of "different forms of energy" is preferable to pseudoscientific but also downright insulting technobabble about phase variances and inverse frequencies.
BAD ACTING OF THE WEEK: That would be Cadman. When she hijacked Mckay's body to get Beckett to come to the dinner, she could have at least tried to maintain the illusion it was McKay. The result was that it made Beckett look like an idiot for not figuring it out.
RUBICON CROSSING OF THE WEEK: Alright, so it won't be as big a civil war as the one on in Potter land over which one gets Hermione, but it seems like a shipper war over whether Shepherd or Ronan gets Teyla is imminent.
MISFIT OF THE WEEK: Who else? I know what the through line is, but before Shepherd goes all weak-kneed over Ronan, it would be nice if he had made some progress towards not being a jerk. It is consistent for him to be a social misfit, but the fact that this makes him come across as unlikeable means that I would have preferred it if Shepherd wasn't so eager to snap him up. After all, how is someone with no social skills going to be a team player?
ATLANTIS UNINTELLIGENCE OF THE WEEK: So as far as we know, the Wraith still believe Atlantis to be destroyed. Therefore, it is imperative that Atlantis expeditions remain undetected by them. Destroying the dart before it could make it to the gate makes sense of course but why aren't there heavy arms at the gate to ensure this. The team acted all surprised and unprepared when the dart appeared. This isn't Enterprise. We expect the Atlantis expedition to be intelligent.
MISSED BEAT OF THE WEEK: Actually, it's of the season really. The new title sequence has some class to it. I particularly like the cool wide Atlantis shots they put in next to characters. But putting the surfacing of the city during the build doesn't work. The way it was in the previous version was better with initial rising during the build.
Posted by: Parmenides Nov 9th 2005, 5:31 PM
Wow glom, tough act to follow! (I love all things CC, homages and all!)
Am I broken? Call me crazy (or said 'broken') but I'd say this episode was pretty average. Sure there were some funny moments, and us slashers will be rioting with R/C pics for months, but it just struck me as a run-o'-the-mill episode. Plus, and this rarely happens on Atlantis, I just didn't find the premise believable. Usually, the technobabble (though outlandish) has some sense of self-consistent logic, and generally requires little suspension of disbelief. This week though, everything just seemed a bit off. The fact that Cadman's consciousness transferred perfectly into Rodney's body, and that they were separated back into each others' bodies flawlessly (after the mandatory tech-MacGuffin that was, in my opinion, subpar this week) was really quite naff.
Speaking of said MacGuffin, as I've said, it's usually pretty easy to let the technobabble wash over you, but all this BS about wacky transformers and Gate-Wraith combitraptions (it's a word, go look it up! ... ) all seemed a bit weak, and most importantly, rushed. The idea of combining the Stargate with the dart seemed more like a hasty brainfart at the end of the episode, the specifics of which weren't gone into. Booo.
Don't really like Roni/an one bit, which, okay, is a hastily formed opinion, but what can I say, first impressions stick. Hopefully he'll grow on me (purely because we're stuck with him!), but he just seems like such a stereotypical stoic warrior...and we've already got one of those! (...his name begins with a T!)
Sure, there were lots of good points that I could bring up, like the humour, the dialogue and the acting...but you've all already done such a good job of that! Plus, let's face it, it's far more fun to pick apart the minor niggles of the episode with our Chisels of Critiqueing! Huzzah!
Posted by: mini_jack Nov 9th 2005, 5:45 PM
it was a good episode like all stargate episode but compared to the rest of them it dose rate above average it has got some classic funny moments hope we see more of cadman in future episodes
Posted by: Auntie Em! Nov 10th 2005, 1:03 AM
I think the kiss was made up on the spot by D. Hewett. I read some where where he just three it in there which is why Beckett looked so very shocked. I guess we will have to wait until the commentary for it comes out.
This episode gets better the more I watch it.
Posted by: Sighfienerd Nov 10th 2005, 1:29 AM
Glom and Parmenides - reading your posts was the most fun I've had all evening. Keep up the good work chaps. Teehee. There's really nothing more for me to say...except Ronan isn't so bad. Give the guy a chance. He may be laconic, but by god, he has large muscles. That ought to count for something.
Posted by: warpchick Nov 10th 2005, 12:36 PM
this was one great episode great acting to
Posted by: The Ori Nov 11th 2005, 7:33 AM
D Hewlett was excellent in this episode. When I read the spoilers for this episode I said 'Oh no, not again' (This topic has been done many times before in other series i.e. Star Trek Voyager) but to be fair I found this episode very good.
The episode really kicked in when Cadman took control of McKay's body - from there till the end it was hilarious, especially the part where Mckay falls asleep and Cadman takes control and looks for Dr. Beckett. Priceless
Posted by: Seshat Nov 13th 2005, 12:20 PM
Loved it, loved it, loved! I think thats the grea thing about atlantis. The did the whole serious/tense ep and then Whack! theres something totally hilarious.
Class acting. It remninded me of the whole Golum/Smeagol thing. It must have been really difficult for DH to act as though someone was tlking to him wen reli there wouldv'e just been a pause....(or maybe she was off screen?)
Emma x
Posted by: Bullitt Nov 22nd 2005, 8:27 PM
I liked Dr Macay's love interest, very beautiful.
Who cares about the special effects, it's the actors that make the episodes enjoyable, as demonstrated by 'Duet'.
Posted by: blackbelt83 Feb 2nd 2006, 3:26 AM
This has got to be the best Stargate: Atlantis episode to date. I loved every minute of it. Beckett's line at the beginning:
"Rodney, you have a date...with a woman."
That was the funniest thing I have heard on the show in a long time. Everything in this epiosde worked so well.
The scene where Cadman first took control of McKay's body, after he fell asleep, when she he walked into the Infirmary was brilliant.
I agree I think there is only one ep I would say is funnier window of operunity season 4 SG-1. This was funny as hell my favorite part was the date when rodney gets drunk and the lutenit takes over. becket is just confused. that was great. but he seemed different from when him and sam met in 48 hours and redemtion he was more of an ass less so in redemtion but the way he acted just dint fit his past.
Posted by: PokeThePuddle Feb 11th 2006, 9:07 AM
interesting episode. just watched it. I watched the entire season backwards so finally i get that episode down the line.
the top right dot would also have been a great story esp for fic and ship writers.
lol... this episode was just funny all over.
and again "you were there" was a good enough reason.
like when carter used it in thor's chariot. and this time its still just as funny--and to think of all the people to use it again.
and wow ronan and weir brings back the memories of the good old days with Jack and Random Guess star scientist
and there does seem to be a bit of Jack in every atlantis team member. except for kavanagh whos just a d***.
Posted by: Dafmeister Feb 13th 2006, 6:57 AM
Posted by: chelle_b Feb 17th 2006, 8:49 AM
Hi everyone,
I am new to this board. Thought I would sign up as I have just started seeing season 2 of Atlantis.
I thought Duets was the funniest episode to date for Atlantis. I was in stiches throughout. Especially when Cadmin started taking control of Mckay's body while he was asleep. Like 'Window Of Opportunity' in SG1 ( another hilarious episode-have watched it so many times now) I don't think this one was meant to be at all serious. I read someone say that David Hewlett overdid the feminine role when Cadmin was 'in charge' but I think he probably had to, to make it immediately obvious that this isnt Rodney talking.
I so enjoyed this episode and can see it as one of the eps I turn to when I'm feeling low and need a bit of light relief.
chelle_b
Posted by: Aticus Feb 28th 2006, 10:54 PM
This episode is definitely the funniest so far (up to this episode, that is)
McKay was just GREAT in this and I think Daniel pulled of the duel personality just GREAt. Definitely one of the episodes I'll be watching over and over again while I wait for Season 3 to come
Posted by: KillerMarv May 13th 2006, 9:56 AM
Did anyone notice that when Dr. Weir comes to have a chat with Ronon, after that small demonstration with that guy... she calls Sheppard a major...?
DR. WEIR: Ronon, can we have a word?
RONON:... Hold this...
DR. WEIR: Now, I understand Mr Sheppard has invited you to join his team...
Now, I didn't read this entire thread, I'm very busy sometimes, I'm sorry if it was said before, but did anyone else notice this? I mean, I wonder if it's a nitpick or she actually was supose to make this mistake about his rank...
Posted by: Dafmeister May 13th 2006, 10:11 AM
I believe she did call him Major. I doubt it was a mistake in the script, it was probably just Torri making the mistake since she had referred to Flanigan as Major Sheppard hundreds of times during season 1.
Posted by: Lt Col. Shadow Quinn May 21st 2006, 12:52 AM
the McKay Rodney kiss was the highlight of the episode. 
Posted by: Christy Jul 15th 2006, 8:18 AM
Yes that kiss right at the end with Mckay and Beckett...I mean i'm suprised that there hasn't been anything negative over that part of the script and it did bring some huge comic relief to the series.
And the way Beckett squeezed Cadmans hand at the end shows that hopefully we'll see her return (i think she does, doesnt she?) and it would be good to see her in a recurring role.
Posted by: Dafmeister Jul 15th 2006, 9:45 AM
Posted by: pokershark Jul 17th 2006, 7:51 PM
I haven't been on in awile (obviously) but I decided to respond to this episode.
OMG I loved it! IT was so funny. First of all, a big hand for David Hewlett playing Rodney AND Cadman. To play off yourself like that (the therapy session...lol) takes alot of talent and skill and he did it quite nicely. Kudos!
Secondly, to those of you who don't think comedy should be in an action/adventure show, what do you think have you been watching for the past 2 years? Probably more if you watched SG-1 first. Comedy is a key element! Whether it be in small doses (a line here, a joke there) or big doses (think WoO here ppl). Stargate, while being action/adventure, has a comedic element to it also.
With that aside, I just love this episode. I've loved Beckett since day one and am glad he's getting more screen time on episodes (go Paul's agent!) And the interactions between McKay and Beckett and McKay/Cadman with Beckett! Classic! Though, you have to feel sry for Beckett; being hit on by Rodney even though Cadman was the one doing it. I can't wait for season 2 to come out on DVD and listen to the commentary on that episode! You KNOW it'll be done by David and Paul. Love the humor, love the acting, loved the kiss (lol and Rodney's reaction after he realized what Cadman had done.....along with everyone else reaction.) Cadman was an ok character but I really don't want her to come back as a major character. Sry, that's how I feel.
All in all this ep. is an 11 out of 10!
Posted by: cdpage Jul 31st 2006, 10:20 PM
this was a reather funny ep... and like a few ppl have asked...whats with the pic in the discription of the ep?
not sure how i feel about Cadman, she's kinda cute, but never really had much a chance to make much of herself...it will take another EP or two with her in it to deside if i like her or not.
Ronan however, I love his charactor, but if doesn't soon develope, i'd rather not see much more of him.
7/10
Posted by: Dafmeister Aug 1st 2006, 6:46 PM
Posted by: Rooster Feb 20th 2007, 7:45 PM
Only just seen this episode last week, being behind and all. Good episode took a lighter side of things was pretty funny seeing Mckay with a female conscious in his mind lol
Posted by: General Jen Jun 4th 2007, 5:25 AM
this ep was so funny 7.5/10
hewlitt did the two people in one body thing well, but not as good as danny in lifeboat.
cadman is good, i think they will keep her around a bit
that KISS 
was hilarious lol... the look on there faces afterwards was priceless.
would have liked to see more shep 
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