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Posted by: Kuwdora Aug 1st 2003, 9:11 PM

Season 7, Episode 8 - Space Race
Air Date: August 1, 2003

SG-1 helps an alien spacecraft compete in a race, but soon learn that there may be more at stake than the finish line.

http://www.sg1archive.com/s7credits.shtml#708 | http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f;=2&t;=1609 | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/708.html

Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 1st 2003, 9:24 PM

I liked the part where Eben asked, "Did it occur to you that you were passed over for promotion so many times because you are a complete moron?"

And then later, "I guess not."

Posted by: Mike Aug 1st 2003, 9:53 PM

Being the car and race fan that I am, I got a kick out of this episode. The commentary and commericals by the network of the planet I can do without. I just thought it was over the top. I get the general impression that Amanda Tapping must be a gearhead and race fan. Maybe it's me but I noticed that she really seemed to get into this episode.

Murray makes a return again. I love it when they draw references to past episodes. Truly enjoyable.

Posted by: Ares Aug 1st 2003, 9:54 PM

Hmm, I really don't know what to think of this ep. Those two news guys that kept popping up really overstayed their welcome. They got really annoying; I wish the writers would've kept their presence to a minimum. That was really the only thing that I didn't like about this ep.

As for the characters, Carter and Teal'c got the most screentime, while Jack and Danny boy had about 10-15 mins air time. The race itself wasn't much of a race since everyone kept bombing out. The special effects were really good though. It's a shame the show doesn't get much recognition for it.

Looks like those ion engines could really be a boost to the F-302. If we had did get that engine upgrade, we could run circles around the DGs. There's one thing I didn't catch though. What did the aliens(forgot their names) want in return for an ion engine?

war Jack O'Neill, war sg-1 missions, war daniel jackson, Dave in sa-town OUT.

Posted by: anubis_hitac Aug 1st 2003, 10:43 PM

I believe they are getting a stargate in return for the ion engine. I liked the episode but I also think like most everyone else that the announcers were over the top. It's kinda cool how the two races live together and how u have humans, warricks race (can't remeber their name), and the cross between the two. I bet we see these guys again in season 8.

Just remebered the name of Warricks race the Cerakins or however its spelled.

Posted by: bassj18 Aug 1st 2003, 10:52 PM

dl it know of net and watch it when I get up and tell you all what I think about it!!!

Posted by: ColonelJackO'NeillRocks Aug 1st 2003, 11:08 PM

I was histerical over that one.

And the tried and true use of the name "Murray" by Teal'c as an undercover name.

LOL!! How many times has he used that name? Funny stuff.

Overall, the ep had ALOT of special effects which made it cool. Grade: A.

Major Rocks out.

BTW: Is it just me, or did Sam act more....perky....in this one? I think Amanda's personality has finally taken over the character. And that's a good thing.....WOWZA!!!

Posted by: tigger2222 Aug 1st 2003, 11:52 PM

Okay, great effects... made the ep, but one trivia question, what is the actor's name that played Warrick's brother... Ebin, I beleive..

Posted by: RookiesRevenge Aug 1st 2003, 11:57 PM

i could swear that was the actor who played Fraisers brother in the comedy series 'Fraiser'. Anyone ?

Posted by: Kuwdora Aug 2nd 2003, 12:16 AM

Posted by: Mike Aug 2nd 2003, 2:43 AM

QUOTE (ColonielJackO'NeillRocks @ Aug 1 2003, 11:08 PM)

BTW: Is it just me, or did Sam act more....perky....in this one? I think Amanda's personality has finally taken over the character. And that's a good thing.....WOWZA!!!

I honestly think she is a gearhead (Amanda Tapping) and this episode may have been developed for her to highlight such an interest. You notice at the beginning of the episode Carter walks in carrying a motor cycle helmet and wearing some leather gear that bikers wear. I'm under the impression that she did not ride a Harley type bike to base but rather something within the lines of a Ninja.

When I saw that this episode had more of Carter and Teal'c, I recalled something that Chris Judge mention in which he admits he has tremendously on-screen chemistry with Amanda.

Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 2nd 2003, 7:45 AM

A civilization as advanced as that and they still are plagued by commericials?!

Maybe humans aren't as bad off as I thought!

Posted by: RebelGoua'uld Aug 2nd 2003, 8:34 AM

Oooookkkkk!.......will somebody please tell me WHAT was up with those announcers?!! i'm not sure, but i think that was purposely cheezy and annoying! i really think the writers got a kick out of that , it sounds like something they'd do in a spoof movie or something.

Amanda really got into this episode! great on screen chemistry, i kinda liked the part when when teal'c didn't want to go on to the diplomatic relations meeting and told jack that sam asked him to stay behind, and he didn't want to disappoint her!

Posted by: RebelGoua'uld Aug 2nd 2003, 8:36 AM

oh, just out of curiosity......how do you raise your rank, 'cause i'm still a civilian and i've been posting stuff for the last three months, soooooany answer's a good one!

Posted by: Bonzai Aug 2nd 2003, 10:49 AM

ok the guy in aliens dont look like the other aliens in Forsaken not the same mask ... i am sure like 80% .. did anyone see that too ?

Posted by: DarqKnyght Aug 2nd 2003, 11:02 AM

Posted by: Kuwdora Aug 2nd 2003, 11:22 AM

Posted by: Mental Case Aug 2nd 2003, 11:23 AM

aww everyone is always so nitpicky on these boards

I thought this was a decent episode, I didnt really see anything wrong with it. The commentator people I thought were a nice touch, sure they were cheesy but whats wrong with that?. They are perfectly plausible and I chuckled a few times at thier adverts and such

Anyway, a nice episode, and different too, different is good

Posted by: Anthro_Girl Aug 2nd 2003, 12:24 PM

Actually...hmm. Dion Johnstone did play Warrick in Forsaken, but I believe he's said in an interview that he was busy elsewhere and unable to come back and play Chaka or Warrick in the last two episodes. According to the credits for Space Race on
http://www.scifi.com/stargate/episodes/season7/0708/, Alex Zahara played Warrick and Patrick Currie (from Unnatural Selection) played Eamon. (I'd go check the actual credits on the recording, but I haven't had enough coffee yet.) They also played Iron Shirt and Chaka, respectively, in last week's Enemy Mine. Ouch...that's a lot of makeup!

I liked this one, although I could have done without the "commercials". Nice work on the part of the VFX gang. I wish they'd shown Carter on the motorcycle, though.

Cheers,
mo

Posted by: Slifer The Sky Dragon Aug 2nd 2003, 3:41 PM

I think the epsiode was really cool

Posted by: BigBlueBuddha Aug 2nd 2003, 4:30 PM

QUOTE (ColonielJackO'NeillRocks @ Aug 2 2003, 12:08 AM)

BTW: Is it just me, or did Sam act more....perky....in this one? I think Amanda's personality has finally taken over the character. And that's a good thing..... WOWZA!!!

Posted by: Ben64 Aug 2nd 2003, 4:38 PM

Great episode, seemed a bit off from the storyline, but I guess they want to fly faster

anyway, *someone* put it on kazaa, go download and share if ya wanna. It will save me, i mean.... whoever made it uploading time

Posted by: Anthro_Girl Aug 2nd 2003, 9:32 PM

Just watched it again. I would have traded some of the the announcers' time for the deleted scene that's posted on SciFi (why did they take that out? it was good!), but it was still fun!

Posted by: DrFraiser Aug 3rd 2003, 9:57 AM

Wow, awesome board! First post here.

My favorite moment in the episode was Teal'c identifing himself as Murray to the Tekcon receptionist. That just put me on the floor. Great reference to Point of No Return and Wormhole Extreme.

So Sam told Daniel at the end of the episode that she'll kick butt next year. Wonder if we'll see Space Race II in Season 8.

The TV announcer parts didn't do much for me.

SS

Posted by: Virus0486 Aug 3rd 2003, 12:17 PM

Go episode...i hope they have another race in the 8th season and we enter one of our own ships, like the x-304...if possible. After watching all those ads, i want to buy some Tech Con stuff...lol...just joking. The moron part was funny too.

Posted by: Disco Ste Aug 3rd 2003, 12:18 PM

This post brought to you by the TechCon Media Conlomerate. A subsidiary of the TechCon Group...'All hail TechCon'

Eamon - The company philosophy encourages mutal trust.
'Murray'- Then it is not good that you do not subscribe to the company philosophy.

hahaa TechCon is hilarious

Posted by: DarqKnyght Aug 3rd 2003, 2:51 PM

Okay, no I'm not.

Dion Johnstone played Warrick in the episode "Forsaken", yes. But the role was played by Alex Zahara in "Space Race" The information in the credits link on this site, which is presumedly the one you were referring to, is inaccurate.

If you go http://us.imdb.com/Name?Zahara,+Alex you will see Zahara's IMDB page where it credits him with the role.

However, if you go http://us.imdb.com/Name?Johnstone,+Dion you will see Dion Johnstone being credited with the same role from the same episode.

Since the odds that they both played the same role in the same episode is fairly unlikely, one can assume that one of the credits is wrong. I would think that the deciding factor would be that Dion Johnstone's name does not appear at the begining of the episode, but Alex Zahara's does:

One role, two actors.

Not trying to be an <delete explicative>, but I tend to research these kind of things fairly thouroughly.

On another note, How did Scott MacDonald (Jarlath) manage to get a higher credit than the either Zahara or Currie? He must have a really good agent.

Posted by: Kuwdora Aug 3rd 2003, 3:36 PM

Aah, huh. go figure. Evidence. Lol I was looking for a screen cap, too. Anyway, thanks. *bows*

Thanks for provin' me wrong, I wouldn'tve thought so unless you posted that pic, so, *thumbs up*

Posted by: StargateSG-1_Fan Aug 3rd 2003, 6:04 PM

Well i have finally downloaded "Space Race" and wow, this was such a great episode, the space ships were cool, special effects were great, i might have to go back and watch "Forsaken", i didn't think that episode would be worth watching.

Posted by: apexad Aug 3rd 2003, 10:43 PM

Something else, IMDB says Epiosde 7.7 when that should be 7.8

Anyway, it's been said, but I agree, I am so happy for Sam! She is finally shedding her scientist image a bit and becoming a little funny like amanda tapping wanted, as she said in the lowdown. I hope they deveop her more and more as having a normal, un-boring, exciting liife beyond her work at the sgc. Cuz, I think she was awesome as herself in the lowdown, and this was probably one of her best episodes yet. Amanda Tapping is so HOT! wow!!

Posted by: ChewManFuu Aug 4th 2003, 6:38 AM

Posted by: SyStEm_LoRd Aug 4th 2003, 9:11 AM

i wanna live were eva u lot live

Posted by: French Carter Aug 4th 2003, 11:20 AM

Good episode, Carter is more agressive. I like that. The only thing I dislike is not to see enough O'Neill and Daniel. But the beginning with all the team is funny.

Carter (about the translation): it's mine SIr.

or,

O'Neill: She did !
Carter: I did !
Teal'C: I don't want to disappoint Major Carter.
O'Neill: Yeah, I now that feeling !!
Teal'C: I am in debt with you, Major
Carter: Indeed

(please forgive me all the mistakes I have done, Thanks!)

Posted by: dorien Aug 4th 2003, 11:51 AM

QUOTE (BigBlueBuddha @ Aug 2 2003, 04:30 PM)

QUOTE (ColonielJackO'NeillRocks @ Aug 2 2003, 12:08 AM) BTW: Is it just me, or did Sam act more....perky....in this one?  I think Amanda's personality has finally taken over the character.  And that's a good thing..... WOWZA!!!    I was just coming here to post that very same thing.. she seemed quite radiant last night.. and when she said 'indeed and smiled' to Teal'c the whole room lit up..

Posted by: BigBlueBuddha Aug 4th 2003, 12:10 PM

Posted by: Chrominium Aug 4th 2003, 4:02 PM

hehe, my take on the episode... very fun, I was actually looking forward to this episode. Not as good as I imagined but nevertheless a good sg1 episode. Orpheus is still better serious-wise this season, and Fragile Balance is still better comedy wise. There are a few gripes with it too.

Notes:
- Continuation from 'Forsaken' in Season 6
- A funny episode, sarcasm, jokes, etc nearly all the way through
- Sam being so eager on something. We actually havent really see this side of her - 'Kick butt'?
- I actually throught Warrick is some kind of officer or high ranking post in the government in Forsaken. Looks like transporting prisoners is just a job.
- How did Warrick get to Earth? Stargate? did they have one, or did Warrick fly to Earth. Did he know where to find us? I suppose after Forsaken they would have swapped info on each other and probably some contact.
- News/update reporters??? So Earth, and so lack of imagination - but I suppose this isnt about imagination, its about being funny.
- Race being dangerous? No kidding! I knew (as well as Sam) that space race is dangerous by itself. Definitely not prepared for the shooting drones and passing near the sun. The ice obstacles, even though dangerous, was expected as you always have obstacles in races that you must avoid (testing of pilot skills).
- I was a bit dissapointed there wasnt any race fail safe for people getting pulled in by the sun... I mean the drones stopped shooting when the ships were disabled so why couldnt they have someone pull them out?
- Looks like a very large monopolising company - is this what Microsoft will become?
- I always said the Ion drive could replaced N'aquida drives and that each race could have their own space travelling drive equivalent. Not everyone uses hyperdrives including the Asgard! They even have things that can easily match the power of the n'aquida reactor!
- Admittely I was suspicious of the race really trying to overtake the humans cause we seen one before - the Ashens did the same thing - share technology and slowly kill them off.

The SG1 now have an ion drive technology although Sam Carter did say they couldnt produce some of the parts. Toobad they didnt win the race...

Posted by: Edog Aug 4th 2003, 6:56 PM

Whenever I saw the announcers and the product endorsements, I kept thinking about how that part was almost ripped off from RoboCop.

Always good to see Carter smiling and flashing those big pearly whites.

Posted by: Firefly Aug 4th 2003, 8:32 PM

I enjoyed this since I'm a race fan. Especially at the end, when Carter is talking about the cheating. Winners often get accused of cheating in racing.

Posted by: dorien Aug 4th 2003, 9:01 PM

I just watched the deleted scene on the SciFi website. Teal'c was telling Jack that Warrick and Carter were having trouble. Jack's concern for Carter was a super subtle shippy moment but a moment just the same. It also had a classic Jack one-liner. Considering how little he's in the show now I think it would have been better to keep this scene and edit out some of the sports commentary.

Posted by: Souske Sagara Aug 5th 2003, 12:04 AM

Good episode, nice shippiness, decent storyline. One problem. It's becoming more and more apparent the abscence of RDA. Not only is his abscence felt, but the brashness and charisma of the whole team seems to be dissappearing. I will continue to watch Stargate of course. It's just that although it is great to see these individual episodes about Carter, Daniel,and Teal'c. It needs to reminded that this is Stargate SG-1 not Stargate SG-1/2 or 3/4. But to all fairness, RDA does need to spend more time with his kids.

Posted by: Anthro_Girl Aug 5th 2003, 1:30 AM

The commentary was most annoying. I rewatched it and FFWD through all the commentary sets after the first one. They really didn't add much to the story. The only thing I can figure is that someone (director, writer, producer) is a big sports nut and finds that stuff really funny. I never understood the concept of watching sports on television, so I guess I just don't get it.

The deleted scene? Don't you just love how this concept has pervaded the entire entertainment experience? On a plot-hole note (maybe), the deleted scene should have been left in because it may have set up how O'Neill and Jackson knew Teal'c and Eamon were at TechCon in the first place. It puzzled me when the O'Neill said "Teal'c? Still at TechCon?" on the radio when there hadn't been any indication that O'Neill or Jackson knew what was going on outside of what Carter told them ("we ran into a little trouble"). Then they just show up there and meet with "old friend" Hagan, who had only previously appeared as an announcer for the race data on the monitor. I also imagine there are more deleted scenes from the soiree that introduced Hagan. All that story development scrapped for the announcers...bleh. But I still liked the whole Carter-gets-to-have-fun episode...I'm easy to please.

Posted by: French Carter Aug 6th 2003, 10:23 AM

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Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 7th 2003, 5:15 AM

Yep. If they know Teal'c is not using his real name, they don't even have to guess anymore.

Posted by: ZxExN Aug 10th 2003, 2:41 PM

Another boring ep in my opinion. Well for me at least. Carter should tie her hair back.
Commentators were boring. Plot boring.

Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 10th 2003, 8:57 PM

It could have been better. I did, however, like the part where they rescued the other pilot. The other pilot did not want to board, and Warrick was quite happy to close the hatch and go on. Carter snatched the hatch door from Warrick and ordered the other pilot up...and he came! Loved that part.

Posted by: ...Odd Aug 11th 2003, 7:48 PM

Well... they certainly had fun making this ep, dontcha think?

I reckon it started off as a good idea but then they got carried away. And then they realised that it was up to them anyway, so 'why not have one ep where we can just play? Come on, it'll be fun.'

My eyebrow seemed to be permenantly raised throughout that ep, and tongue lodged firmly in cheeck.

As long as they had fun, fair enough. But back to work next week lads though, if you don't mind.

<EDIT> PS: They're finally, FINALLY giving Sam a sence of humour and, no offence, a personality!... 'bout time, folks!

Posted by: ZxExN Aug 12th 2003, 12:44 AM

Posted by: SyStEm_LoRd Aug 12th 2003, 5:17 AM

lol. great Zxexn is a wigger!
sam well without her Nerdly ness the gate wouldn't be working..
remember her and others got it towork.. daniel just cracked the code. as he said!

turning sam into a slurry. would be funny. first she would score jack. then daniel then teal'c. teal'c seems more interested in ppl his age and race!! jaffar. been his race. cept he isn't really a jaffar now that he has no gou'ald lava!
he hooks up wid the jaffar girl! who looks HOT! in the next ep.. well he kissed her on the preview i saw ne way!

Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 12th 2003, 6:36 AM

They got it to 'work' in 1945. Without the code as you put it, they wouldn't be able to do anything with it. Most of the rest of your post had too much slang for me to follow.

Posted by: DarthSimious Aug 12th 2003, 6:26 PM

Yo, first post, bin visiting u all for ages, love the posts and idea's

Okies, I have an underlaying question and its driving me mad. Its only just occured to me after watching this ep, but when Jack goes to see Thore to get all the Anciant tech out his brain, Thore tells him that the human race is the 5th race... what are the species in this ep? the 6th race?

Bah, sorry I get braindead on the simplest of things

Posted by: SSG Ret Aug 12th 2003, 6:39 PM

That wasn't Thor, and he didn't say we were the fifth race. He said we have the potenial for and had taken the first steps toward becoming the fifth race in the Alliance. I don't know what the Asgards opinion of this race is, or whether they are even in the running, so to speak.

Posted by: Evane-Sam Sep 20th 2003, 6:33 PM

[QUOTE]Same doesn't have a sense of humor. She's wierd if you ask me. Always playing with her gadgets like a nerd. I think she should just have a one night stand with Teal'C. Once you go black, you never go back.

Ok call me stupid but I think that Sam was great in this episode. She was really cool.
And thinking of Sam and Teal'c together ...A ONE NIGHT STAND!...yuk! .
Don't get me wrong, I like Teal'c but I would never see them togheter. Daniel would be better(I mean with Teal'c )

Whatever, the best parts of the ep are:
Sam:What is this?
Warrik: A complete operations manual for the Seberus. I had it translated for you.
Sam:Thank you.
Jack:Thats not our language!
Sam:It's mine, sir.

or

Teal'c: I'm in your debt Major Carter.
Sam: Indeed.

Posted by: SSG Ret Sep 23rd 2003, 8:51 AM

Posted by: Aesir Sep 23rd 2003, 8:55 AM

Posted by: SSG Ret Sep 23rd 2003, 4:19 PM

I think Sam has a sense of humor, but it is written as a lot more subtle than Jack's. AT might think of it as no sense of humor because it doesn't match hers.

Posted by: French Carter Sep 29th 2003, 4:52 PM

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Posted by: Jon The UK SG-1 Fan Nov 17th 2003, 4:22 PM

AmazinG! unbelievable, unlike anything i've seen on Stargate before. Some of you may think this is an over reaction but hell no! That ep was different from a usual stargate ep and i loved it.
Ok so what did one like about it hmm lets see. The superb special effects/affects (Never sure which spelling u use ) on the city. The way they did the continious news reports on the race and advertised alien products. Teal'c's bit of humour at the beggining was also great trying to get out of the meeting etc and Carter saying "indeed". I also liked the whole sabatage idea and the kind of idea of racism if u will of those guys who thought that humans were being mistreated by the........i'm not sure how to spell their race name so "brown dudes".

Jack wasn't in the ep much but thats ok i can handle it . He still had a few good moments talking about resemblence between Warrick and Eaamon or however u spell it. Umm Daniel like Jack didn't get much screen time but i guess he did get rather a lot in "lifeboat" but hey. This was rather a Sam ep and i like that.

I hope we will see more of Warrick and co and i'm happy we accuried some technology i'm sure O'Neill will be most entrigued. Hopefully hopefully hopefully the season will continue with this great success.

PS: O'Neill to the receptionist said something like
"Tell him that Mr I have the stargate is here" or something lol.

Murry lmao

Posted by: Aesir Nov 17th 2003, 4:58 PM

Posted by: stargatesweetie Nov 17th 2003, 5:57 PM

A reasonably good episode. I quite liked the faux news reports of the progress of the race and the adverts for products-very Starship troopers.
Another minimal Jack episode, though i didn't seem to miss him as much as I thought I would.

Posted by: Majikthize Nov 17th 2003, 6:08 PM

Posted by: Dafmeister Nov 18th 2003, 6:37 AM

Really good ep, Sam in leather WOO HOO.

I liked all the sfx, im sure ive seen the guy who captured teal'c and the other alien (wasnt it Eamonn or something) in another SG1 ep.

Posted by: Behenna Nov 18th 2003, 7:13 AM

lol, i liked this ep! I see teal'c has started 2 take on some human trats! very crafty, but very funny. I think teal'c had the funny line with the way he got out of the meeting thingy, oh that made me laught. He also likes the name Murry don't he.

Posted by: Kree! Nov 18th 2003, 12:26 PM

I liked this ep alot. The adverts were great. (was one of the reporters the person who played The Ashrak and the guy In Revisions? )

Oh and why did they have lifts in that hq building? If they were so advanced why didn't they have some sort of matter transporter ?

Posted by: anastasia_beaverhausen Nov 18th 2003, 3:50 PM

Posted by: Emmyloo Nov 18th 2003, 3:56 PM

Funny ep, although to a certain extent i was fairly dissapointed.

I guess i expected more from the race, after all, wasnt it supposed to be this highly dangerous race, yet all the action we really saw was at the start when they were being fired upon by those drone things. However, we did get to see a more playfull side to Sam, which i hope is the start of some character development as in my opinion, she has the most underdeveloped character in the show.

Posted by: *Anubis Nov 20th 2003, 8:26 AM

I saw this episode last nite and i thought the part where Teal'c wormed out of having to go to the boring meeting. Also it it me or has Teal'c lost the logo on his forehead.

Posted by: dorien Nov 20th 2003, 9:20 PM

Posted by: Aesir Nov 21st 2003, 10:58 AM

Posted by: glom Nov 21st 2003, 1:33 PM

OMA! What has Damian Kindler done to the series!?

This episode was filled with all the things that annoyed be about things like Star Trek: Voyager. The Cerakans, invented by Kindler in 'Forsaken', broke Stargate's good record of having no bumpy foreheaded aliens. Admittedly, they're better than most of Westmore's plasticine "wonders", but they're still so-called aliens that don't convince me for a second that they are really alien. The Asgard are alien. The Goa'uld are alien. The white naked guys are alien. The Cerakans are not alien.

While I appreciated that an alien civilisation are shown to have a dynamic economy, something that the writers of Star Trek always forget. The similarity in style to American culture is yet bumpy foreheadism.

The technobabble is back. Ion drive? There are two ion powered spacecraft in space right now. Damian Kindler said on The Lowdown he has the habit of just making things up rather than researching things properly. We're seeing that right now. Those who don't do research, use technobabble. That's why there has been remarkably little technobabble throughout the series. Because all the other writers do their research! In 'Forsaken', he wrote the advanced level of the Hebridans as being a mystery that was solved with the discovery of the Cerakans, when in fact more advanced human civilisations were explained as early back as 'Enigma' and the introduction of the Tollan, a race that were killed off the year before he arrived.

Yes, he did good with The Other Guys and there were some good lines in this episode, which makes it better than Star Trek's recent years, but I hope Kindler gets his act together before he becomes Stargate's Brannon Braga.

It says a lot though when Stargate's worst is still better than Enterprise's best.

Of course, James Tichenor is still as hot as ever. The CGI was stunning. The Hebridan city was full of colour and had a pretty spacey train. The space shots were movie quality.

Posted by: RebelGoua'uld Nov 21st 2003, 8:07 PM

I just saw this episode for the second time, and correvt me if i'm wrong, was one of the announcers the same man who played the assasin in "The Enemy Within" and the father with the little boy in "Revisions"? I mean i really think it was him except he had, kinda bad, fake alien make-up on, but i could be wrong!

Posted by: Emmyloo Nov 21st 2003, 9:41 PM

There was no assassin in 'The Enemy Within', i think the episode you're refering to is 'In the Line Of Duty'. I dont think it was the same man, but i agree that they do look alike.

Posted by: Stardoe Nov 22nd 2003, 2:54 AM

Dont' know why people are getting annoyed by the commentators. Anyone who has watched the cricket would just not be phased by these two guys. I defintely wasn't. This was a good ep. Any shippers out there could be quite pleased with the under currents here. Won't go into it now but anyone who wants to know my thoughts, just say the word. Also people wondered how they got to Hebridia [is that the planet?] without a star gate and considering it was so far away. Perhaps they took the stagate to that planet on which the convict ship crashed and then took a space ship to Hebridia. [?] Easy.

Stardoe

Posted by: RebelGoua'uld Nov 22nd 2003, 2:28 PM

oh, oops, your right it was "In the Line of Duty" my bad

Posted by: Aesir Nov 22nd 2003, 4:52 PM

Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Nov 23rd 2003, 11:15 AM

Having been in England and all i saw this just last week and laughed all the way through!! Jack was back to his usual sarcastic ways and the whole team did the SG1 thing!!I loved the peice between Sam and Teal'c though was a definite highlight!! And everytime those advertisement people came on cracked me up!! Though my dad started to freak out everytime which was funny in itself!!

Hey Stardoe i just gave ya the word to contact me about the shipper undercurrents!!

Posted by: Zatnik Nov 28th 2003, 2:38 PM

I really love the commentary. And the adds.
Its just so realistic, just like Bathurst is here in Perth.
Noone cares who is killed or mangled, butsurely they must be 'disappointed'.
This episode was one of the funniest ive seen, but if Sam acts like that in another episode I dont know what I'll do. TEAL'C SMILED!!! What I liked the most was the way in which Sam didnt even flinch at the site of the ships manual, and jacks "thats not our language". very funny, loved it.

Posted by: Chelle B Dec 3rd 2003, 7:53 AM

Posted by: Kero Dec 9th 2003, 1:59 AM

I enjoyed this episode! Its not "stargate's worst"! I liked it. It was funny and interesting and different. I liked the planet they went to and the commentators with the ads, its was cute and quite obviously UNserious, which is my favorite thing about stargate!

Posted by: Jedidude Feb 1st 2004, 8:51 PM

I say Sam and Daniel were flirting when they had those humor scenes together

Posted by: JacksGRL Apr 7th 2004, 9:49 AM

This episode was a blast. Really shows Sam competitive nature. Hope we see Warick (sp). again.

Posted by: Mac.Fan Apr 22nd 2004, 12:33 PM

Sam in a space race how cool is that.One thing about the race is that there are no rules in it.

Posted by: Seth Apr 22nd 2004, 3:54 PM

I never thought I would have to say this about a stargate epsiode, but:
THIS EPISODE SUCKS
I know there were some subtle hints at a star wars ripoff. However, in this episode, I felt as if I was watching Star Wars rhater than StarGate. Whoever made this episode should be severly punished.

Posted by: scjon Apr 24th 2004, 8:37 PM

I must be in the minority, but I really liked the TV announcers. They (& tekcon) represent the worst of commercial television (& sport reporting). Very funny!!

I also found the inter-racial aspect very interesting.

Good to see Sam/Amanda finally having fun too!

Posted by: ali Apr 25th 2004, 5:32 AM

I thought the announcers were quite funny as well. "Keep your fun count up and your legion count down with Radon 55!"...or something like that...
The whole episode had a slightly cheesy feel about it, but I liked it.

Posted by: row4d Apr 25th 2004, 1:44 PM

I think I have the right episode for this one, but I could be wrong. Anyway, for me the funniest moment was when Sam was humming to herself in the elevator -- and the tune was the show's opening theme!

Posted by: dorien Apr 25th 2004, 2:00 PM

Posted by: row4d Apr 26th 2004, 12:03 AM

Thanks for clearing that up! I lose track sometimes when Sci-Fi shows several eppys back-to-back in a single night. I've only been hooked on SG-1 for about a month now, so I'm not as familiar with individual episodes of this show as I am with say, ER, which I've been following closely for years!

Posted by: magnavox May 18th 2004, 10:42 PM

I have to say that certain aspects of this ep. were strange to say the lest, personally I found those comentators a bit creepy. Although I did like the humour in this ep. very funny- "Murray", "Indeed".
Did anyone notice when Jack and Daniel are at Techcon looking for Teal'c, and the "boss guy" arrives that when Jack gets out of his chair that the chair slides on the ground and goes quite close to the water in the background? He looked like he was half asleep or something?
I think this was a good ep. for one reason- Sam came out of her shell alot, and did something for herself, not just for the team or for the airforce.
YOU GO GIRL!

Posted by: Hazaa3000 Oct 24th 2004, 3:00 PM

What a boring episode. Seriously, did anyone else think 'Total Recall' meets 'Star Wars'?????????

I was like ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

It wasn't really Stargate orrientated, could of been done by any TV show really. A shame really.

Posted by: Goddess Oct 24th 2004, 4:55 PM

I really liked this ep, unlike "Enemy Mine", which for some reason didn't gel with me at all I thought it was great that we finally got to see AT having some fun, and Carter looking really psched (sp) up about an off-world mission, unlike the times when she's purely military. Loved the way she practically begged Hammond to let her help Warrick

Is it my imagination, or did she come across as more girly in this ep? "What's a girl to do?" Also loved her line at the end "Very cool"

And indeed it was.

Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 26th 2004, 1:15 PM

This ep was really good. Loved the scene where Jack said 'Thats not our language'. The only bad thing about this episode was the commentators. they really annoyed me.

Posted by: Hazaa3000 Oct 26th 2004, 7:04 PM

To me, this is one of the episodes where it is clear to see that RDA is not around as much as he use to be - what did he have, 2 mins of screen time? Still not enjoying season 7, might buy season 6 and just re-watch it.

Posted by: kitsune Nov 7th 2004, 7:35 PM

Did anyone else think Jack was lying when he said they had managed to trade for an ion engine? I thought he was the first time, and it was a long enough interval, that I thought the same thing the second time.
We heard in the beginning that negotiations were going very slowly, but they managed to make an agreement very quickly. I thought he knew that Sam was too excited about winning the race for her own good, so he lied in order to try and convince her that taking big risks wasn't necessary.
I can't believe I thought that twice.

Posted by: LuvThatShanks Nov 15th 2004, 10:25 AM

I am in that weird in between land where I loved certain aspects of this episode and had to struggle hard to stay awake during others - and that was even with the DVD fast fowarding action.

I loved seeing a more assertive, bouncy fun, determined-to-have-that-fun version of Sam. I liked the visuals, heck I even liked the satiric take off on the announcers - who were so cheesy and over-the-top that it made for a fun parody as far as I was concerned.

But I'm also the person that figured out 19 different ways to check my watch during the pod race in Star Wars Episode I. So, race scenes don't do it for me.

Other things did though. The aforementioned "Oh it's a different side of Sam!" The two races trying to live together, etc.

I really wanted to love this one but instead I liked it and that was simply because I desperately wanted Sam to have a little bit of joy in her life. She was like a big incredibly intelligent kid in her excitement about the race.

I found it fun for that reason.

Posted by: Evo Nov 15th 2004, 11:18 AM

This episode was good, though the race reminded me of Star Wars Episode I, when Anakin was racing his space pod. It would of been better if we could actually see more racing action. It was nice seeing Sam having fun! We should see more that that.. hehe`

The city was awesome; I didn't know they watched TV lol.

Posted by: wonderland Nov 15th 2004, 7:07 PM

Posted by: invisible painting Nov 16th 2004, 5:13 AM

Jack the whole way through the episode was soo funny one of his funniest episodes hes ever done, he wasnt in it much but when he was i couldnt help but laugh. The race itself wasnt very exiting no but it didnt present itself on being exiting, rather about the situation that comes with the race. Though thats just my opinion.

Posted by: Dafmeister Nov 16th 2004, 5:22 AM

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Posted by: Christy Nov 27th 2004, 8:42 PM

I didn't think this was one of the better episodes, it started off slow, the ending was great though.
The acting was great but i didn't get any feelings from Sam.

Posted by: frostychocolatemilkshakes Jan 25th 2005, 10:53 PM

Holy Episode Flop Batman!

Posted by: KoKi Jan 31st 2005, 4:00 PM

this was not good eps.... .....

Posted by: mini_jack Mar 19th 2005, 7:35 AM

this was a fairly good episode but it remianded me to much of the voyager episode of the same name

Posted by: da_gate_rox Jun 28th 2005, 9:52 PM

I liked this ep. heaps i loved the commentator guys they were funny.
This ep. got

* * */5 stars

Posted by: Saffron Nov 6th 2005, 10:41 AM

Not the best epi but I had fun with it. It's ok to have an epi like that every now and then. You know, just for the fun of it.

Posted by: MasterBetty Nov 6th 2005, 6:59 PM

at first i hated it. it was so boring but now i think i can live with it. onepart i liked was how teal'cs name was murry

Posted by: Asgardian Dec 10th 2005, 3:20 AM

I didn't like this episode becuase it lacked something from some of the non-main characters-- something called acting. The guy who Cartar picked up was a very weak character and was easily persweaded into boarding their ship, and just being angry at him for no reason. It was an ok episode

Posted by: Odin Aesir Feb 23rd 2006, 6:12 PM

i just saw this again and it is one of my favorite episodes, i like the part were Jack comes in and says to tel'c
"what have i told you, never get caught by the bad guys"

Posted by: Ancient Kane Jul 21st 2006, 8:13 AM

Really didnt like that episode. I think one of the reasons why stargate is so popular is because unlike other SCI-FI programs there is a serious lack of dodgy looking aliens. This episode got 2 *s i strongly believe that is because no one liked the look of those goons. Also the way on how Stargate somehow seems so possible dispite the fact that if it is possible it is unfortuneatly a long way off our current level of technology. Even the episode with the UNAS seems bad to me. maybe im just predjudice to dodgy looking aliens. (apart from the Asgard they are sooo cool) I think the reason the asgard make episodes good is because of their te chnology. Beaming is just everyones dream. I still think the Asgard are cool dispite their appearance because they are quite a helarious race. We see this many times in SG1 and Atlantis when something they dont like happens and they mutter along in their own language in a pissed off mood.

Posted by: iacon Jul 20th 2009, 4:18 AM

Ya, also not a fan. The announcers were just too cheesy and didn't Voyager have an episode pretty much JUST like this? I don't know who was first though...