Printable Version of Topic

Click here to view this topic in its original format

Stargate Information Archive _ SG-1 Season 7 _ 710 - Birthright

Posted by: Arcady Sep 15th 2003, 10:42 PM

Season 7, Episode 10 - Birthright
Air Date: August 15, 2003

The team finds a fugitive colony of Jaffa women, who must prey on other Jaffa to acquire symbiotes.

Guest starring Star Trek Enterprise's Jolene Blalock as Ishta.

http://www.sg1archive.com/s7credits.shtml#710 | http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f;=2&t;=1907 | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/710.html

Posted by: DR Larry Murphy Sep 16th 2003, 2:56 PM

Hey I'm the first post probably since the fall, anyway it looks a good episode from wot I saw on he directors thing on the last dvd, wots the episode like

Posted by: anika Sep 17th 2003, 1:16 AM

so lots of stuff were trashed due to the non-back-up of the former server?
i was just wondering if anyone on this message board still has that screen cap of t'pol, i mean jolene blalock, as a jaffa woman, ishta, i'd like to post that on a trek message board, alot of guys on dat trek message board cant seem to fathom t'pol with long blond hair and a tatoo on her forehead, though i did reassure them that she is as low pitched voice on sg1 as she is on ent, thanks and cheerio

Posted by: Aesir Sep 17th 2003, 5:13 AM

QUOTE (anika @ Sep 17 2003, 07:16 AM)

i was just wondering if anyone on this message board still has that screen cap of t'pol, i mean jolene blalock, as a jaffa woman, ishta

Here's one... don't know if you are looking for a specific images, but this is about the best one I could find.

Attached image(s)

Posted by: Kromando33 Sep 17th 2003, 6:39 AM

this episode was ok, i think the whole jaffa requireing symbiots tretonin thing as been covered enough, i was looking foward 2 seeing moloc & more of his imperial guard that sort of stuff.

Posted by: French Carter Sep 17th 2003, 4:10 PM

It just was funny to see Teal'C in an other situation!! He is just amazing when he plays/seduces this woman!! Funny, very funny!! And a ship moment when Carter said: you know, we don't, we haven't...

Posted by: DrFraiser Sep 29th 2003, 3:02 PM

I'll repost some comments that I originally posted regarding this episode.

IMHO this was the worst episode of season 7 so far. This episode just didn't go anywhere compelling. The Jaffa women, sure a story might have been there. However, in this form the episode didn't work. Morever it was a vehicle for Teal'c to get some nooky.

Randoms thoughts why this was a massive dud:

1) Jolene Blalock - ick, get her off Stargate and send her back to altar of Roddenberry.
2) Preachiness - subcurrent taking on issues of sexism and abuse of women - This isn't Star Trek - Stargate has never gotten preachy to us like this before. Uncharcteristic for Stargate.
3) Predictable *yawn* Flat storyline no excitement, no hook. Caught myself channel surfing during it. I *NEVER* do that.
4) Do we need to see Teal'c making out at the SGC in front of the gate with Jolene and *EVERYONE* standing there? Tacky T. General Hammond should have a talk with you as to appropriate conduct.

Random positive:

1) Daniel and the younger girl who was of age for a symbiote. They saved the episode from complete oblivion. Good chemistry between them, leave it Dr. Jackson to save the episode.

Those are my thoughts. I'm sure many others will disagree. My two cents though.

Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Oct 20th 2003, 9:53 AM

Chris Judge always writes the best epps.

Posted by: Raz Oct 25th 2003, 3:27 AM

Chris Judge writes CRAP eps. The only good one was the Warrior! The only reason he wrote Birthrigt was so he could get one off with jolene Blalock! And the Changeling was crap too. Hey u didn't know where u were with that ep until the end and even then it was crap. I think Teal'c should have kept his symbiote because he would have been more powerful.

Posted by: Ka'rina Oct 30th 2003, 9:11 AM

I thought the ep was quite good, although Jolene Blaylock's acting reminded me of T'Pol too much at times.......
On the whole tho, it was good- although I'm sure that type of story, women colony, has been used soooo many times...

QUOTE

Daniel and the younger girl who was of age for a symbiote. They saved the episode from complete oblivion. Good chemistry between them, leave it Dr. Jackson to save the episode.

I completely agree- that was one of the best bits!

Posted by: Kree! Nov 1st 2003, 11:44 AM

QUOTE

Raz, I think he was joking.

Are the writers running out of ideas? I mean Revisions was basically a cross between Gamekeeper and Below the surface and then they make this. I don't see them making it to a 9th season.

Posted by: Kinghans Nov 5th 2003, 12:49 PM

Overall, I think it was a reasonable episode, but as with "Disclosure" I thought the storyline was ver thin.

At least Jolenel was better in Stargate than Star Trek...

Greetz, King Hans

Posted by: Child of the gods Nov 23rd 2003, 8:10 AM

QUOTE (DrFraiser @ Sep 29 2003, 03:02 PM)

2) Preachiness - subcurrent taking on issues of sexism and abuse of women - This isn't Star Trek - Stargate has never gotten preachy to us like this before. Uncharcteristic for Stargate.

OK, all the people who have Stargate:The Illustrated Companion Will know that in the first two series, specificly the first series, the writers were experimenting with ways Stargate could go, Remember the ep 'Emancipation'? Sexism all over! In the book the writers comment on how they didnt like preaching but they have!

Posted by: Raz Nov 24th 2003, 4:45 PM

One thing is for sure.. I hate Chris Judge's scripts and personally would like to see how Tapping and Shanks do at writing an ep. Also I would like to see RDA write something cos I bet that episode would be immense! somtehing to do with Asgard!

Posted by: Aurora Nov 29th 2003, 7:15 AM

Being in England we don't get to see this episode till Monday 1st can anyone tell me what i should be looking out for?

Posted by: stargatesweetie Dec 1st 2003, 4:21 PM

OK-I seem to be feeling a general level of apathy for most of the episodes in this series and I'm starting to get worried. This is what?.. the 10th episode and I can't honestly say that any of them have stood out as being excellent. In all of the series, I have never felt like this about Stargate. Do I expect too much?Has the seventh series been hyped up beyond what it can deliver? are the plots and stories deteriorating? I'm starting to feel less enthusiastic about series 8

anyhoo, back to topic...the epiosde was moderate-I was surprised at how T'Pol-like Ishtar was, same mannerisms etc. As has been mentioned, the redeeming part of this episode was Daniel interacting with the young girl..."who are you talking to?" "No-one".

Posted by: Aesir Dec 1st 2003, 4:41 PM

Here are my thoughts on this episode:

I thought overall it was a pretty average episode, but personally I think that Christopher Judge could have come up with a better storyline... can he actually write an episode that isn't centered around Teal'c so much? It seems like he just wanted to write something so that his character could get with a Jaffa woman. The rest of the plot just seemed to fit aronud that to me.

Did anyone else notice that the fight scene between Teal'c and Ishta seemed a little weird... kind of fake? Some parts where they obviously used body doubles just seemed really disjointed and poorly joined to the parts with the proper actors. Other parts almost seemed matrixy (by that I mean, slowed down or very unrealistic movements). Maybe it was just me...

Also, why are they promoting Jaffa to use the tretonin? I realise it would be a good temporary solution, but as far as I know they have no supply of it anymore as the Pangarans aren't producing it as they don't have a Goa'uld Queen anymore... what happens when it runs out? Teal'c and Bra'tac didn't have a choice... these Jaffa kind of did in a way. Maybe the Pangarans had a huge stockpile of it I guess, and maybe it goes a long way. I just found it odd that they would suggest it like they have a permanent supply or something.

Posted by: Majikthize Dec 1st 2003, 7:29 PM

QUOTE (Aesir @ Dec 1 2003, 10:41 PM)

Did anyone else notice that the fight scene between Teal'c and Ishta seemed a little weird... kind of fake? Some parts where they obviously used body doubles just seemed really disjointed and poorly joined to the parts with the proper actors. Other parts almost seemed matrixy (by that I mean, slowed down or very unrealistic movements). Maybe it was just me...

Nope not just you. I got The Matrix vibe when I was watching that too.

It was a fairly average episode. Good to see Teal'c actually doing something for a change instead of raising an eyebrow, saying "indeed", firing his staff weapon and turning a blind eye to Sam and Jacks little lurvefest thing that goes on from time to time.

Hey Teal'c got laid! Any ep where one of the main cast gets some is gotta be a good thing right? Hmm, well you'd think so wouldn't you. This episode, however, was let down by being slow, talky and suffering from overt use of clunky jaffa-speak dialogue. Jeez now I know why Teal'c says so little!
Jolene Blalock put in a fine performance though but the blonde hair freaked me out. It was so not natural. Well those Amazon...oops sorry Jaffa Jungle Girls certainly have their priorities right eh. First secure the Clairol Nice'n'Easy shade no. 7 'Golden Sun' then hit the leeches. The other actress though was terrible. She didn't die of symboite removal, she died of woodworm.
Even Jack annoyed me in this ep. His little quips seemed somewhat forced and crude compared to normal. Actually he only opened his mouth to add a little comedy value. I miss the old days when he could actually be serious from time to time.

As for Daniel and the little girl. Well yeah we need to do "befriending a child" again because....hey that plot line is original. Seriously though it felt a little dirty to me. I know it wasn't supposed to but he just seemed creepy. I think there may have been a plot line there that didn't get a chance to be explored in more detail, like it was added in as filler.
Actually quite a few little bits felt tacked on for good measure here. The whole business with Jack's little "penis" comment, Sam's little misunderstanding in the infirmary (WTF was that all about then? Nowt to do with this plot line so I can only guess it's a set up for something else.) Did they need to fill time or did they have to cut stuff out to shorten it? If it's the latter then I reckon they could have cut a lot of the talky stuff and had more blowing people up stuff instead.

Anyhoo, I didn't hate it but I wasn't too sorry when it was over and I won't be going out my way to re-watch any time soon.

Posted by: Jon The UK SG-1 Fan Dec 2nd 2003, 6:34 AM

like Aesir i thought this was an average ep and not my fav ep in the season so far but hey

However on the positive side i like the way they brought the whole tretonan thing back into the story because sometimes in a tv show they bring something in then never talk about it again. I, like some other people here liked the friendship between Daniel and the little girl, i thought Michael's acting was great with the whole "who you talking to?" thing

A good ep for a new writer but not as good as it could have been..........

Looking forward to next monday!

Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 2nd 2003, 7:37 AM

Really enjoyed the ep. Better than Avenger 2.0 . Didnt Teal'c seem a bit more hard ass in this ep though? When the female jaffa first appeared and spoke to SG1 he looked as if he was going to do some damage.

Posted by: Raxor Dec 2nd 2003, 7:40 AM

my points

+ jb as ishta, nice casting decision
+ tealc being more involved, his story
+ o'neill was around a bit more, and his jokes were alright
+ daniels talk with the girl
+ another relation to 22 episodes back

- the fakey fight scene, i hated the camera movemens
- i cant stand those cheap matrix style events, broke the flow

overall

**1/2

Posted by: Jacks Girl Dec 2nd 2003, 3:39 PM

mmmmm yip - Chris Judge certainly had his own interests at heart when writing this episode eh?....aaah the beauty of writing your own programme, the wee chancer that he is.

Not a bad episode actually but I think they have turned Jack into the blonde bimbo of the show (minus the blonde hair ofcourse) has he forgotten how to string consecutive sentences together?? Its just snappy, sarky, one liners he comes up with all the time - hey I know he has a reduced filming schedlue but GEEZ make more use of him when he IS there will ye guys?

Posted by: Behenna Dec 2nd 2003, 8:09 PM

QUOTE (Ka'rina @ Oct 30 2003, 02:11 PM)

I thought the ep was quite good, although Jolene Blaylock's acting reminded me of T'Pol too much at times

I am glad i ant the only one that saw it! she had to much vulcan logic to the way she spoke that what i thought anyway!

But i enjoyed the ep! but i also thing they been going down hill a bit they need to get back in to the whole anubis plot thing! I just hope the next 2 weeks with the 2 parter will bring the season back up!

Posted by: Apophisgonnabebackanduknowit Dec 3rd 2003, 6:56 PM

It sucked major ass. Get well soon please Stargate.

Posted by: DON Dec 5th 2003, 8:55 AM

This episode seemed to go on longer than usual. I too agree that Chris Judges writing is detremental to the show. At first i didnt mind the challenging, given that it was something different and thought provoking, but his latest enstallement was no more than poor storylines coupled with self promotion.

Big T making out with a hot jaffa in front of everyone just seemed weird. Although the look on Daniel and Sams faces were pricless.

Posted by: KatWhisperer Dec 6th 2003, 8:40 AM

Yes, Jolene Blalock was fine in "Judge's Dream" (a.k.a. "Birthright"), but WHO is the actress who played her second-in-command--the woman who died when her symbiot was removed?? She speaks like the ever-adorable Joan Collins (star of one of the best vintage Star Trek episodes and a very funny giant ant sf film). She even looks a bit like the e-a Ms. Collins. What else has she acted in? Too bad she was killed off by Judge.

Posted by: Aesir Dec 6th 2003, 9:36 AM

QUOTE (KatWhisperer @ Dec 6 2003, 01:40 PM)

WHO is the actress who played her second-in-command--the woman who died when her symbiot was removed??

She speaks like the ever-adorable Joan Collins (star of one of the best vintage Star Trek episodes and a very funny giant ant sf film). She even looks a bit like the e-a Ms. Collins. What else has she acted in? Too bad she was killed off by Judge.

The character of Mala was played by Christine Adams. It's funny because at first I thought she was the same woman that played the female prisoner from 'Forsaken', but apparently she wasn't. It doesn't look like she has been in many other shows/movies, so she probably just looks like someone you recognise. I know what you mean about her looking familiar though. See http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-163448.

Posted by: *Anubis Dec 7th 2003, 5:25 AM

I think this is a really good episode it shows that the jaffa woman can kick some ass's as well

Posted by: eliminator Dec 9th 2003, 3:08 AM

heh, Teal'c fell in love with Jolene Blalock's character. What a great couple if they had more time together.

Posted by: Dr Janet fraiser (Teryl Rothery) Dec 16th 2003, 9:14 AM

Teal'C is one lucky SOB

Attached image(s)

Posted by: Ares Dec 20th 2003, 1:46 AM

Saw the ep. again today and I must say, my views haven't changed when I first saw it. Utter crap. I wanted to murder that lady who was the little girl's big sister. She was annoying and doesn't deserve the tritonin.

I thought Jolene Blalock looked nasty to me in this ep. She's way to thin to be attractive to me. She needs to go back to "Enterprise" and put on the body suit, it makes her look less thin.

I give it **

Posted by: Raxor Dec 20th 2003, 12:04 PM

i prefer he on enterprise. the way she is now in season 3 personally. i didnt like the fight scene in this episode. you gotta shoot the director. i wonder what they will say on the audio coimmentary when it is out.

Posted by: hickeryboy2003 Jan 1st 2004, 7:29 PM

i quite liked this episode, though it was kinda predictable Teal'c getting off with Ishta and everything

Posted by: ArtemisNightshade Jan 16th 2004, 11:58 AM

Teal'c got some nookie!!! You Dawg you!

I guess it was an ok episode, not one of my fav but I never like bad mouthing a Stargate SG2 episode, and never will.

QUOTE

Big T making out with a hot jaffa in front of everyone just seemed weird. Although the look on Daniel and Sams faces were pricless.

Don you are SO right. That was like one of the best parts!

~Artemis~

Posted by: KaptainKeg Mar 22nd 2004, 4:06 PM

I like how Teal'c finally met someone other than his bitch of a wife. And now they have found a way for all jaffa can live with out the snake!

Posted by: datag Mar 24th 2004, 9:54 PM

I thought that Teal'c had a wife but somewhere under all that Jaffa stuff he really liked the leader of those women Jaffa I think that it was mean for all those men to burn any girls that were born and it was a really great thing for the group of women to do

Posted by: Mac.Fan Apr 24th 2004, 5:41 AM

Teal'c falls in love with the leader Who knows what might happen in season eight between them two.

Posted by: Dracodian Stonewall May 12th 2004, 9:40 AM

I thought it was a good episode but some one said that most female Jaffa are killed at one and I said they were thinking of this episode which is not reference to all jaffa.

Posted by: mithwriter May 29th 2004, 7:06 AM

I don't think there's anything wrong with CJ writing an ep to get Teal'c some more quality time on screen. He is, after all, the character most commonly placed in the peripheral of what's going on....meaning always looking on, not a driving force in the plot.

Although I think Changeling is an excellent episode, I can't say the same about this one. I think there are some stories that just don't hold my interest, and the plight of Jaffa women is one of them. I thought Blalock was fine, as well as the other Jaffa women. Just not interested in their story, that's all.

Posted by: SG1Papa May 29th 2004, 7:29 AM

I think CJ does a great job of writing episodes, and I wish all of the actors would write episodes about their characters.

Overall, I agree with Myth about this episode. It just seemed to me this would have been better as half of an episode. Where Teal'c and Daniel go to this planet, and then the others go somewhere else or something. Basically where there are 2 main plot lines, each somewhat worthy of an ep to itself.

Posted by: Chelle B Sep 3rd 2004, 7:24 AM

Jack said "penis" !!! that was so unnecessary and seemed forced by the script. i'm not really one for episodes written by Chris. it's always about Teal'c and the Jaffa thing.

it was kinda interesting at first to see Jaffa women, but i soon got over that. the whole episode was seriously just about him getting to make out with the blonde. it's a pity the second in command died coz i thought she was good. her death wasn't done very well either. i didn't really feel sorry for her or anything coz they didn't even go into her character much, but still tried to make it kinda dramatic. they rushed her whole story about her past.

i actually found it hard to concenrate during the episode and got easily distracted. i don't even know what Teal'c and the leader were fighting about. i didn't even realise they were fighting. one minute they're talking, and the next they're beating each other up. not that it was impressive or even believable.

i liked the whole thing with Sam and her "relationship" with Jack. i'm always in favour of that! and i also liked the bit with Daniel and the girl. that's probably it. there might be a few more bits here and there, but very few.

Posted by: magnavox Sep 4th 2004, 10:57 AM

QUOTE (Chelle B @ Sep 3rd 2004, 7:24 AM)

i liked the whole thing with Sam and her "relationship" with Jack. i'm always in favour of that! and i also liked the bit with Daniel and the girl. that's probably it. there might be a few more bits here and there, but very few.

Those are my favourites as well.
I agree O'Neill saying penis was bogus! The look on Carter's face when the second in command told her about her past with her boyfiend for lack of a better term and her baby daughter was so sad. Did anyone think when Daniel was talking to that young girl his facial expressions reminded them of Jim Carrey? Maybe it was just me...

I do admit I found the 'amazon' coversation funny and their debate over what the Jaffa women wanted them for.

That whole thing with Teal'c and Ishtar was boring, although we did get to see Teal'c strut his stuff so I'll give it points for that.

Posted by: invisible painting Sep 4th 2004, 11:03 AM

Well i liked it and episodes like this (ie involving jaffa) are normally boring but chris judge does a good job of making it not boring hes a good writer (better then some professional ones they have on the show) The penis thing was fine by me i didnt have a problem with it. It was quite a good episode i thought and i liked it, i just hope that they have CJ write more.
Ps. ones where one of the characters wrote it will obviously star them, itll always be this way.

Posted by: Dracodian Stonewall Nov 1st 2004, 10:27 AM

I though it was good and it shows the progression of Teal'c. I happen to think that this is one of the best Jaffa stories so far.

Posted by: IndyJan Nov 1st 2004, 6:23 PM

QUOTE (Chelle B @ Sep 3rd 2004, 7:24 AM)

i'm not really one for episodes written by Chris. it's always about Teal'c and the Jaffa thing.

I think usually when an actor writes a script or creates a story idea, it is usually about what he or she knows. In CJ's place, he knows the Jaffa and their history. That is what he has played for years. So he writes about them.

I have to agree that Birthright is not very good. It's one of the main reasons that season 7 is down on my list of favorite seasons. I have no problem with Jaffa women. I think that was a nice idea, I just didn't care for these Jaffa women, especially the second in command. I also agree that JB looks so much better on Enterprise.

Posted by: wonderland Nov 1st 2004, 9:31 PM

I didn't think this one was quite as well written as "Changeling" which I thought was awesome. Jolene was cool as Queen of the Jaffa, or whatever she was supposed to be. She was one of the only bright spots on the show. Although I did think Daniel's conversation with the young girl was very sweet, just wish they had brought her back for "Sacrifices".

Posted by: CitizenK Nov 2nd 2004, 1:52 PM

QUOTE (wonderland @ Nov 1st 2004, 9:31 PM)

I agree with Wonderland, while I thought this episode was one of the better episodes of the seventh season, it is still weak in comparison to Changling. That was a far superior story. Not that this story wasn't enjoyable. I liked it.

I really did enjoy seeing Jolene Blalock as Ishta. (Off-comment, who thinks up these names ? ) I like the idea of there being female Jaffa. Would have liked to have seen them alittle earlier in Stargate's lore. I don't know why it took seven seasons for a female warrior (excluding gou'alds) appear as a plotline.

But, I thought this was a decent story. I liked how Ishta was more open to accepting help from Teal'c and SG1. At least she seemed more practical and reasonable. And why shouldn't a great looking guy like CJ have a just as great looking gal like Jolene as a potential girlfriend ? They looked nice together.

Shoot, Jolene has just as good biceps as CJ does ! Not as big, but just as defined. I give her trainer credit. She looked great although the costumes did remind me too much of Xena Warrior Princess amazon wardrobes. I suppose there are only so many ways you can outfit a woman warrior.

You know, I do have to say the guys of SG1 do work well with children and adolescents. Daniel did have a sweet chemistry with that girl (forgot her name) didn't he ?

liked this episode. it was different.

Posted by: wonderland Nov 2nd 2004, 5:42 PM

QUOTE (CitizenK @ Nov 2nd 2004, 1:52 PM)

You know, I do have to say the guys of SG1 do work well with children and adolescents. Daniel did have a sweet chemistry with that girl (forgot her name) didn't he ?

Maybe because they are, at heart, children!!!! Or it could be because all three of the guys are dads, they always seem to be soooo sweet with the kids on the show. Daniel's scenes with the baby in "Maternal Instincts" always melt me.

Posted by: IndyJan Nov 3rd 2004, 11:43 AM

QUOTE (wonderland @ Nov 2nd 2004, 5:42 PM)

QUOTE (CitizenK @ Nov 2nd 2004, 1:52 PM)

You know, I do have to say the guys of SG1 do work well with children and adolescents. Daniel did have a sweet chemistry with that girl (forgot her name) didn't he ?

I think this is the key issue. All of the men are fathers, and they love children. That comes across in every episode where they interact with children. You can just see that, Jack with Retou Charlie, all of them with Cassandra, Daniel with the young girl in Birthright. I'm not saying that actors can't be taught to interact this way, but having a child and being a father has to make it easier.

Posted by: Hazaa3000 Nov 9th 2004, 12:15 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ooooooooooooooooooooooo Women Jaffa zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nothing HappeningZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzz Someone gets shot Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ooo back to SG-1 base, ll well Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz End of episode!

O come on!!!!!!!! who is writng this crap?

Posted by: Evo Nov 15th 2004, 11:14 AM

I just saw this episode and it was good. Though I was asking myself a question.. how many women did Teal'C actually kiss over the past 7 years lol. Well it was great seeing Stargate actually going into Greek Mythology; Amazon ladies

Posted by: invisible painting Nov 15th 2004, 4:20 PM

QUOTE

Though I was asking myself a question.. how many women did Teal'C actually kiss over the past 7 years lol

Well theres 3 women hes kissed over 7 years which averages him out at 1 kiss every 2 years and 4 months....what an animal!!

Posted by: ftt Jan 1st 2005, 5:20 PM

I can't stand the women so typical being all that, when whatever her name was had that fight with teal'c is what i refer too. but i found it somewhat amusing the conversation that Daniel had with the young girl thou. that made me smile

Posted by: watching85 Apr 15th 2005, 8:38 AM

I *blush* used this episode as an example in an analysis on Gender Identity in media. I like it but then I'm bias cos I like Teal'c and once CJ started writing Tealc centred eps they acutally started to get good (gotta love the English there!) It was the best example I had in terms of sci-fi and gender.

Posted by: Ringbearer Jun 15th 2005, 6:32 PM

I just saw this one today for the first time too. it was a good show .i hated how they treated the girl jaffa afterbirth .but i still say they should not have killed just to stay alive it is like the same thing just them.

Posted by: warpchick Aug 13th 2005, 11:59 AM

its a good episode not the best i,v seen but good

Posted by: Ancient Kane Jul 21st 2006, 8:18 AM

QUOTE(Kree! @ Nov 1st 2003, 11:44 AM)

HEHE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE NOW SEASON 10 KISS MY ASS

Posted by: Dafmeister Jul 21st 2006, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(Ancient Kane @ Jul 21st 2006, 2:18 PM)

HEHE LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE NOW SEASON 10 KISS MY ASS

Look when the post was made.

Stop spamming and attacking members.