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Stargate Information Archive _ SG-1 Season 7 _ 711 - Evolution (Part One)
Posted by: Arcady Sep 15th 2003, 10:45 PM
Season 7, Episode 11 - Evolution (Part One)
Air Date: August 22, 2003
Daniel and another archeologist are taken hostage when they travel to the jungles of Honduras to find an ancient alien device. O'Neill, Carter and Teal'c investigate the appearance of a powerful new enemy.
(Part 1 of 2.)
http://www.sg1archive.com/s7credits.shtml#711 | http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f;=2&t;=2311 | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/711.html
Posted by: Sam's Sister Sep 16th 2003, 12:47 AM
Talk about "ripped from the headlines". Has anyone seen that new History Channel show "Coming Home Alive"? Sat. 9pm: "The kidnapping of a geologist". Certainly a cliffhanger, though.
Posted by: Spacen Sep 18th 2003, 12:54 PM
Looks like we lost all of the posts for this episode...oh well. I liked the episode a lot...except for the kidnapping part. The second parter is so predictable.
The super soldier was pretty cool, though. I can't wait to see how that turns out.
Posted by: master anubis Sep 18th 2003, 11:39 PM
How do you think they will kill the SS?
Posted by: Spacen Sep 24th 2003, 2:42 PM
| QUOTE (master anubis @ Sep 18 2003, 11:39 PM) |
| How do you think they will kill the SS? |
I don't know, but they have a couple to experiment on. They are also close to finding the source of them. If you remove the source, then we don't have to worry about killing them.
Posted by: ramuund Oct 2nd 2003, 2:38 PM
| QUOTE (Cmdr Thor @ Sep 18 2003, 12:54 PM) |
| Looks like we lost all of the posts for this episode...oh well. I liked the episode a lot...except for the kidnapping part. The second parter is so predictable. The super soldier was pretty cool, though. I can't wait to see how that turns out. |
i was looking at the stats and thinking, just four post? wow, this epiosode didn't rate that highly
Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Oct 3rd 2003, 3:40 AM
The Antinece arm bands are the answer to stopoing the super Jaffa.
Maktel Noximus Kree
Posted by: B-Dazzler Oct 3rd 2003, 4:08 AM
| QUOTE (Metel Setek Noximus @ Oct 3 2003, 03:40 AM) |
| The Antinece arm bands are the answer to stopoing the super Jaffa. Maktel Noximus Kree |
The arm bands are gone. SG-1 didn't bring them back with them. They left them on the ship that was destroyed. Besides, they worked by infecting the wearer with a virus that enhanced the body and once they produced an antibody, the armbands would never work on them again. Since the symbiote would prevent infections, Jaffa and Goa'uld and Tok'ra are immune too.
This would only leave other humans (maybe Asguard?
) to use the armbands to an advantage. How would these defeat a SS? They could run around him very fast and hit him hard, but bullets (which have a much greater lb per sq in impact) don't hurt them at all, I'd be doubtful if the arm bands would have the desired effect either... Maybe? 
Posted by: Aesir Oct 3rd 2003, 5:35 AM
| QUOTE (B-Dazzler @ Oct 3 2003, 10:08 AM) | ||
The arm bands are gone. SG-1 didn't bring them back with them. They left them on the ship that was destroyed. Besides, they worked by infecting the wearer with a virus that enhanced the body and once they produced an antibody, the armbands would never work on them again. Since the symbiote would prevent infections, Jaffa and Goa'uld and Tok'ra are immune too. This would only leave other humans (maybe Asguard? ) to use the armbands to an advantage. How would these defeat a SS? They could run around him very fast and hit him hard, but bullets (which have a much greater lb per sq in impact) don't hurt them at all, I'd be doubtful if the arm bands would have the desired effect either... Maybe? |
I got the impression that the Tok'ra had more of these armbands other than the ones they brought to the SGC... of course this may not be true, it just seemed like it from the way that Anise was talking and I don't remember her saying that the ones they put on SG-1 were the ONLY ones.
I agree that I don't see many ways the armbands would help though except for evasion of super soldiers. Maybe they could destroy them with their strength though... ripping off the armour and killing them. I haven't seen the episode, only read spoilers so I don't know if this is even feasible.
Posted by: SSG Ret Oct 3rd 2003, 6:35 AM
| QUOTE |
The Antinece arm bands are the answer to stopoing the super Jaffa. |
Possible, but they would have to have a team of suicide volunteers. Going into an area with a lot of SS with a device that will quit and render you unconcious without warning is not a survivable scenario.
| QUOTE |
I got the impression that the Tok'ra had more of these armbands other than the ones they brought to the SGC. |
Anise did say: "That is why I brought only three" when it was brought up that having a symbiote prevented them from being used.
Posted by: French Carter Oct 3rd 2003, 9:18 AM
I have seen it again and I am very sad of what O'Neill say when they are captured... It's not funny!!
But, I am waiting for the second part like everybody to have a real idea of this episode!
Posted by: Apis Oct 10th 2003, 8:03 PM
Just a quick question, How were the team dynamics in this episode? I haven't seen season seven yet but from what I've heard the team dynamics and storyline has become absolutely low quality.
From where I'm standing the first good episode in Season seven could be this one and I'm hoping that the show is getting itself back together, and hopefully O'Neill had over 20 seconds of show time in this episode.
Posted by: Cynical_Coat Oct 23rd 2003, 10:45 AM
I hope they don't kill Dr. Lee... all his lines in the ep were perfect...
Daniel: Look for a totem or a marker, anything that will tell us which way to go. (Lee and the guide just stare at him.) Go!
Lee: (Hurries off screen. Thudding noise.) I found it! (From inside the temple.)
******
Lee: There's no writing... There's always writing, isn't there?
Posted by: Redmage Oct 24th 2003, 1:51 AM
I love Dr. Lee! I'm also happy that he survived "The Prodigy" because I like the actor who plays him (I know guests on the X-Files, too). I hope he survives this episode, too!
But I also agree that SG-1 as a whole isn't as prominent in season seven, and that could be because RDA has a reduced filming schedule so he can be with his family. I think his role has become more cliched (wouldn't he hate that). He seems to have very few (comparatively) lines, and when he does, they're generally all sarcastic ones. And while I have nothing against his sarcasm, it seems to be all he has left any more. Jack's my favorite character, and he's fading away!!! 
Posted by: SG-15 Oct 28th 2003, 4:58 PM
| QUOTE (ramuund @ Oct 2 2003, 02:38 PM) | ||
i was looking at the stats and thinking, just four post? wow, this epiosode didn't rate that highly |
Yeah according to Gateworld Prometeus (Season six) left a bigger cliffhanger in the middle of the season then Evoloution, but I think it was pretty good.
Posted by: Jackson_Fan Oct 30th 2003, 2:52 AM
I thought this one was kinda interesting. Bra'tac & T being somewhat puzzled by the supersoldier was 
Also, he's the same old Danny! Spacemonkey isn't safe anywhere. (not even on his homeworld fer cryin' out loud, this one proves that) *G* I can't help but love him.
I wonder: Is it possible Danny might break a bone in part II? I sincerely hope they don't kill him (again), though I think we're safe on that bet
I'm hopeless I know 
Posted by: Aesir Oct 31st 2003, 6:57 AM
| QUOTE (Jackson_Fan @ Oct 30 2003, 08:52 AM) |
| I sincerely hope they don't kill him (again), though I think we're safe on that bet |
They pretty much can't kill him in part 2 because it is as good as confirmed that Michael Shanks will be back in Season 8. If they killed him then they'd have to bring him back again which would be a BIG BIG mistake as it's been done so many times already
Posted by: Jackson_Fan Oct 31st 2003, 9:03 AM
Here, here! Let's hope TPTB learned the lesson of Meridian...(That being, that SG-1 without Danny an' the talented guy that protrays him is lacking something *rare*) Aside: No, that doesn't mean I'd be opposed to Jonas returnin'. I'm biased, but I don't truly hate him.
Anyone know what the American air date of part II is yet??
I can't wait!! 
Posted by: Aesir Oct 31st 2003, 9:06 AM
| QUOTE (Jackson_Fan @ Oct 31 2003, 03:03 PM) |
| Anyone know what the American air date of part II is yet?? |
It will be aired sometime in January - I don't think that an exact date has been given yet. Keep checking http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1623 as information will be posted there when it is available.
Posted by: Jackson_Fan Oct 31st 2003, 11:08 AM
Thanks, Aesir. I still haven't checked out everything...This site is what I've been lookin' for. 
Posted by: Kromando33 Oct 31st 2003, 11:18 PM
well anubis is looking more powerful than ever, i think this episode should give closure to the 'Anubis Vs Sokar' thread.
Posted by: Kinghans Nov 5th 2003, 12:57 PM
I thought it was a good cliffhanger, I really like to know what happens to Daniel and Dr. Lee.
Also, this supersoldier is pretty interesting, since the only Goa'uld we've seen experimenting on this kinda thing is Nirrti and she's dead! Now Anubis comes with this guy... I mean, what? He got the blueprints from the Ancients library or something? Weird... let's see how it plays out, shall we?
Greetz, King Hans 
Posted by: Raz Dec 2nd 2003, 1:12 PM
SPOILER
If you have seen the studio art from gateworld.net which they are auctioning off, 2 super soldiers can be seen which suggests that we probably won't stop them or at least not all of them.
the 2nd half is quite predictable since the picture arcady has for the ep clearly shows Dr. Jackson in the background alright and colonel O'neill clearly must have rescued him.
Posted by: Rockclimber32 Dec 5th 2003, 10:25 AM
Well, We will find out what happens on January 9th!
Can't wait!
Posted by: eliminator Dec 5th 2003, 1:34 PM
Ah but we can see what happens on the 15th of December! because we are going to watch Evolution part 1 in 3 days, and the second part without any break in schedule a week later. But we start up again on Jan 6th with the next episode before the "Heores" two parter is shown.
Posted by: stargatesweetie Dec 8th 2003, 4:06 PM
Hooray! at last, the first episode of this season that I have throughly enjoyed. What a cliff-hanger. Danny trapped in the jungle and SG1 having caught a kick-ass soldier, even Jack is back on form. Luckily we only have to wait until next week to find out!
It seems that even these genetically engineered soldiers have their weak-spots-a finite life span (bit like Dolly the sheep!). So does this mean that if the soldiers come up against heavy resistence they will "wear out" faster?" or is it a case of engineered to last for "x" number of days/hours regardless of how much energy they expend? The ultimate disposable "toy"
Posted by: Aesir Dec 8th 2003, 5:30 PM
| QUOTE (stargatesweetie @ Dec 8 2003, 09:06 PM) |
| Hooray! at last, the first episode of this season that I have throughly enjoyed. What a cliff-hanger. Danny trapped in the jungle and SG1 having caught a kick-ass soldier, even Jack is back on form. Luckily we only have to wait until next week to find out! |
Hmmm, actually for a cliff-hanger I didn't think it was that great even if it only a mid-season one. There were some promising things in the episode, like the idea of the super-soldier and the sarcophagus technology, but I just felt that they didn't really use these to their full potential and the story didn't really go anywhere very productive
I know I haven't seen the second part yet and from the spoilers it looks as though it might make up for this, but I thought the main plot elements in this episode had a lot of wasted potential, even for the first part.
Posted by: kitsune Dec 8th 2003, 9:00 PM
Someone explain it to me!
assuming you can do it without giving anything away past this episode
The SS armor is interesting, but I am having trouble with it. It is apparently a material similar to kevlar, which is easilly permiated by the kind of weapons that were brought. The armor would have to be very thick to block projectile weapons, and it would still get scuffed up by them (also extreamly heavy, but it is a goa'uld). correct me if i am wrong, but it didn't say anything about a shield like the one created by a hand device. I may be nitpicking, but I hope there is a reasonable explanation.
Posted by: eliminator Dec 9th 2003, 3:04 AM
| QUOTE (andy4an @ Dec 8 2003, 09:00 PM) |
| Someone explain it to me! assuming you can do it without giving anything away past this episode The SS armor is interesting, but I am having trouble with it. It is apparently a material similar to kevlar, which is easilly permiated by the kind of weapons that were brought. The armor would have to be very thick to block projectile weapons, and it would still get scuffed up by them (also extreamly heavy, but it is a goa'uld). correct me if i am wrong, but it didn't say anything about a shield like the one created by a hand device. I may be nitpicking, but I hope there is a reasonable explanation. |
The armour was able to absorb all energy based weapons and reflect all projectile weapons too, the only thing it couldn't protect against was the Trinium based needles they createdfrom the ore they found in the season 2 episode "Spirits" where they met Indians (like cowboys and Indians, not Indians from India) and their spirits (aliens) that had created may objects and weapons using pure Trinium, this was before they sealed up the gate however.
Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 9th 2003, 5:47 AM
At last we are back to episodes that of a high standard. I loved this ep. Man, was that super soldier freaky. This ep seemed a hell of a lot darker than the rest of season 7 up to now.
Surely now the SGC has a good advantage over the Goa'uld. They have two sets of armour from the super soldiers (the one that died and the one that they captured).
If the rest of the eps are up to this standard i cant wait and if it continues into season 8, its going to be one hell of a final season.
I cant believe that we are half way through season 7 already. Isnt this where the UK gets ahead of the US in eps? I hope that some kind soul is going to upload the eps for the US fans, like they did for us.
Posted by: Jon The UK SG-1 Fan Dec 9th 2003, 6:21 AM
Well this was definately an improvement from last week and i loved it. The whole SS was great kicking ass when they tried to capture it. O'Neill with the M60
I preferred the Daniel storyline more though as its more fun with him being caught and all. I loved this bit:
Guide: I'm not going to steal from u senior. (Looks around, smile fades )
EDIT: Dr Lee was great in my opinion but he looked familar, have we seen him before?
Posted by: Behenna Dec 9th 2003, 8:17 AM
Ah bout time the story lines picked up! The super soilder rocked i though! they sould experment with his weapons cuz he has 2 one on each arm and they hell of a lot faster than staff weapons and just as if not more effective!, I could imaging teal'c wearing on and blow a how leagion of jaffa away on his own 
But i think the super soilder they got at the SGC is gonna escape in next weeks end! cuz the bonds on his arm looked 2 be flexing a bit and they keeped showing in trying 2 break them!
Oh yer 1 more thing the super soilders without the armer r some ugly mother f***ers
Posted by: eliminator Dec 9th 2003, 11:45 AM
Yeah I think that the SGC should use the SS's armoured suit in combat missions, and eventually hopefully the Tokra (after some experimentations) can reproduce and make more of the shields for use in battles. Plus for the moment they should use the upgraded staff energy weapons imbuilt into the suit to do some serious damage as well because they seem stronger than normal staff blasts (epecially if a smaller area of contact in the new ones can do more damage than the original sized area of contact then that proves it).
Posted by: INDEED! Dec 10th 2003, 8:41 AM
these "kull warriors" (as named on the credits) of the episode look great,the rapid fire staff weapons were way cool,i hope the "kull warriors" feature in future episodes and are not killed of by flu or something. 
Posted by: Draconus Dec 10th 2003, 9:01 AM
I thought the kull soldier looked kinda like darth vader.
what do you think?
Posted by: kitsune Dec 10th 2003, 10:14 AM
nice comparison.
I was surprised that we didn't take more precautions against it carrring a self destruct or a poison capsule, the tech is too good to fall into enemy hands, especially if they expect them to drop dead after a couple of hours. I hope something good somes out of it.
Posted by: eliminator Dec 10th 2003, 10:38 AM
We might have to fight it with lightsabers if that is the case, but i think he would b invincible against them since his suit absorbs energy 
Posted by: Kree! Dec 10th 2003, 10:54 AM
| QUOTE (Draconus @ Dec 10 2003, 09:01 AM) |
| I thought the kull soldier looked kinda like darth vader. |
Yeah. It did. Is it me or has Stargate been turning into StarWars latley?
This ep kicked ass. I feel sorry for all those ppl in the USA who are havong to wait for all this while.
Posted by: Behenna Dec 10th 2003, 5:17 PM
Ummmm Kree thats Part 2 they been waiting for a while 2 see!
Posted by: ramuund Dec 10th 2003, 5:37 PM
Well i findly get some time to post here.......
I had read some posts priopr to watching- the sci-fi viewers and didn't think this was gonna be a good eipsode but i was wrong- i loved it!
I loved the "were paying him by the hour....." by Daniel
and " i know what this must look like......" scene in the prison......
I can't wait of course for part two but i am very happy to keep watching part one a few times........
oh and Eliminator- Native Indians....... 
Posted by: eliminator Dec 11th 2003, 3:03 AM
| QUOTE (ramuund @ Dec 10 2003, 05:37 PM) |
| oh and Eliminator- Native Indians....... |
On the tip my tongue buddy.
Posted by: Child of the gods Dec 11th 2003, 12:19 PM
/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\
native americans actually!
Posted by: INDEED! Dec 11th 2003, 1:30 PM
| QUOTE (Draconus @ Dec 10 2003, 09:01 AM) |
| I thought the kull soldier looked kinda like darth vader. what do you think? |
aye,have you seen fortress the christopher lambert movie,thought that unmasked they also looked like the strike clones.bet it stinks under that helmet,no wonder their eyes looked glazed over.
Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 11th 2003, 2:38 PM
| QUOTE (Jon The UK SG-1 Fan @ Dec 9 2003, 12:21 PM) |
| EDIT: Dr Lee was great in my opinion but he looked familar, have we seen him before? |
I think i saw him the first ep that involved Cadet Hailey. I think it was 'Prodigy'. Im sure he was one of the scientists in that ep.
BTW did anyone notice that the planet that the super soldier originated from was called 'Tartarus'. Thats the name the Ancient Greeks gave to their version of Hell wasnt it?
Posted by: eliminator Dec 11th 2003, 2:43 PM
| QUOTE (Dafmeister @ Dec 11 2003, 02:38 PM) |
| I think i saw him the first ep that involved Cadet Hailey. I think it was 'Prodigy'. Im sure he was one of the scientists in that ep. BTW did anyone notice that the planet that the super soldier originated from was called 'Tartarus'. Thats the name the Ancient Greeks gave to their version of Hell wasnt it? |
Yes I have found a page on the net that explains something, plus it also connects with past stories of stargate. the page link is http://www.forumromanum.org/mythology/tartarus.html hope it explains it more clearly.
Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 11th 2003, 2:55 PM
I guess that it'll be a fun place if SG1 go there then.
Posted by: necrosis Dec 11th 2003, 5:57 PM
i liked to refer to the SS's as.......ASS's(anubis's super soldiers)
REMEMBER YOU HEARD IT FROM ME,DONT STEAL IT!!!
Posted by: eliminator Dec 12th 2003, 2:58 AM
| QUOTE (necrosis @ Dec 11 2003, 05:57 PM) |
| i liked to refer to the SS's as.......ASS's(anubis's super soldiers) REMEMBER YOU HEARD IT FROM ME,DONT STEAL IT!!! |
Damn that's a good nickname.
*Minor Spoiler*
Also I think SG1 and Bra'tac actually go to Tartarus in the second part while Jack goes of to save Daniel and Dr Lee.
Posted by: Kree! Dec 12th 2003, 8:00 AM
| QUOTE (Behenna @ Dec 10 2003, 05:17 PM) |
| Ummmm Kree thats Part 2 they been waiting for a while 2 see! |
Oops thats what I meant. Should of made it more clearer. Must really suck having to wait on a 'to be cotinued' ep.
Posted by: muldersgun Dec 16th 2003, 4:47 AM
supersoljahs who look vaguely like Darth Vader underneath.....
Hmmm interesting concept...although i immediately thought of the X Files when the term "supersoldier" was used...hehe
Posted by: Dr Janet fraiser (Teryl Rothery) Dec 16th 2003, 9:16 AM
those new super solders are hard SOB's
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Posted by: Lit Gal Dec 20th 2003, 6:51 PM
I just saw this, and I loved it. Both story lines are great, but I am really starting to get frustrated with how split up the team is. I definitely want to keep Dr. Lee. It's nice having Daniel be the calm under fire one with someone else as the nerd. It shows how far his character has come since the first season cliffhanger when he managed to miss a Jaffa standing 20 feet away! 
Posted by: dorien Dec 20th 2003, 9:36 PM
Contrary to popular opinion, I did not like this ep. I so didn't like it that when it aired again last night I changed the channel and watch JAG instead! Has Stargate really gotten to the point where the new villians need to be of comic book proportions? The "Super Soldier" has the helmet of a Bionicle and the face of Ripley's half alien offspring for cryin' out loud. Are we meant to take this joke seriously? And while the armor idea is interesting you'd think an explosion, while not hurting the wearer, would at least knock him on his butt. 
The source of sarcophagus technology, another interesting idea, is believed to be on Earth and the SGC only sends two guys to South America to find/retrieve it with no back up? A minimum team sent off world to a known peaceful planet is four and Earth is anything but peaceful. As for Daniel getting kidnapped in the jungle...over five years under Jack's command and he hasn't learned to do a basic threat assessment? The kidnapper stood out in the crowd. Warning bells should have gone off. Sheesh!
Nope, didn't like it at all. 
Posted by: Ares Dec 20th 2003, 10:14 PM
| QUOTE (dorien @ Dec 20 2003, 08:36 PM) |
| The source of sarcophagus technology, another interesting idea, is believed to be on Earth and the SGC only sends two guys to South America to find/retrieve it with no back up? A minimum team sent off world to a known peaceful planet is four and Earth is anything but peaceful. As for Daniel getting kidnapped in the jungle...over five years under Jack's command and he hasn't learned to do a basic threat assessment? The kidnapper stood out in the crowd. Warning bells should have gone off. Sheesh! |
If they sent a full expeditionary force or whatever, that would attract way too much attention. It would attract a lot more guerillas, mercenaries, whatever to go after the team. The small 2-man team with guide was a good way to not gain any attention. It just so happened that a someone was listening in on their conversation.
If I were to spend 5 years hanging around a physicist, it would not make me any smarter. Just because Danny spent some time around Jack, doesn't make him an Army of One. You say the kidnapper stood out in the crowd. I remember him just sitting at a table acting nonchalant.
Daniel is still just an archeologist; maybe has some basic training, nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by: SyStEm_LoRd Dec 20th 2003, 11:22 PM
daniel has been with sg1 since the start.. maybe JUST maybe he learned a thing or 2 from jack, and teal'c.
Posted by: samandjack2003 Dec 20th 2003, 11:30 PM
My favorite part is when O'Neill and the others are in the cell and he tries to convince Ramius that they weren't there to kill them. I thought that was funny how Jack handled the situation with Ramius.
Posted by: SyStEm_LoRd Dec 20th 2003, 11:32 PM
it was funny. but didn't really help him get out did it?
Posted by: drumchick Dec 21st 2003, 10:23 AM
| QUOTE (samandjack2003 @ Dec 21 2003, 05:30 AM) |
| My favorite part is when O'Neill and the others are in the cell and he tries to convince Ramius that they weren't there to kill them. I thought that was funny how Jack handled the situation with Ramius. |
yea and he just kept on talking and talking and Ramius just kept on giving him evils 
THAT was hilarious............ Ok maybe over-reacting but its been so long that RDA has given a good joke I found it very very funny.
Posted by: eliminator Dec 21st 2003, 10:26 AM
| QUOTE (drumchick @ Dec 21 2003, 10:23 AM) |
| yea and he just kept on talking and talking and Ramius just kept on giving him evils THAT was hilarious............ Ok maybe over-reacting but its been so long that RDA has given a good joke I found it very very funny. |
Well it has been a long while since they were captured by a system lord, at least less than a series.
Posted by: dorien Dec 21st 2003, 10:44 AM
| QUOTE (Ares @ Dec 20 2003, 10:14 PM) |
| If they sent a full expeditionary force or whatever, that would attract way too much attention. |
I wasn't suggesting a full expeditionary force. It has often been stated that one of the mission objectives of the SGC is to acquire alien technology. Well here's a biggie and yet they don't send a discrete force to find and secure the location in what they should know is a relatively hostile area.
| QUOTE (Ares @ Dec 20, 2003, 10:14 PM) |
| Just because Danny spent some time around Jack, doesn't make him an Army of One. |
No, but it should make him more observant.
| QUOTE (Ares @ Dec 20, 2003, 10:14 PM) |
| ...It just so happened that a someone was listening in on their conversation...You say the kidnapper stood out in the crowd. I remember him just sitting at a table acting nonchalant... |
If you sit in an outdoor area, especially one as seedy looking as this was, and loudly discuss where exactly you intend to go and how much money, implying you have alot, you're going to pay a guide to take you there, you're going to attract attention and make yourself a target.
| QUOTE (Ares @ Dec 20, 2003, 10:14 PM) |
| Daniel is still just an archeologist. |
At this late stage in the game with all he's seen and done, Daniel has certainly become more than "just an archeologist".
Posted by: Lit Gal Dec 21st 2003, 9:26 PM
| QUOTE (dorien @ Dec 20 2003, 09:36 PM) |
| The source of sarcophagus technology, another interesting idea, is believed to be on Earth and the SGC only sends two guys to South America to find/retrieve it with no back up? A minimum team sent off world to a known peaceful planet is four and Earth is anything but peaceful. As for Daniel getting kidnapped in the jungle...over five years under Jack's command and he hasn't learned to do a basic threat assessment? The kidnapper stood out in the crowd. Warning bells should have gone off. Sheesh! Nope, didn't like it at all. |
I assumed that they sent to scientist types because otherwise they might have to explain soldiers from America wandering around someone else's jungle--other government have funny ideas about sovereignty and national borders.
Posted by: Spacen Dec 30th 2003, 5:11 PM
They probably sent two archaeologists because they weren't worried about a threat. Earth is supposed to be safter than offworld...right?
Posted by: ChibiSam Jan 15th 2004, 11:16 AM
I thought it was an ok episode. Really nice to see Jack back in his usual form, but also stlll not the team together.
I agree with dorien. I think that they would have atleast send along a 4 man team. Not military, but I am sure the SGC could dig up some guys that were experienced, but did not look military. As I recall the guide was use to people wanting to look at temples and ruins. I don't think a team of 4 'archeologist' would have drawn alot of attention.
I also agree that Daniel should have picked up a few skills from Jack and Teal'c. I think he was lulled into a false sense of security because he was on Earth.
Posted by: Mac.Fan Apr 25th 2004, 12:10 AM
| QUOTE (master anubis @ Sep 18 2003, 11:39 PM) |
| How do you think they will kill the SS? |
well i think they use the box that Daniel finds, so they can use it as a weapon to distroy the soilders
Posted by: 00mace Apr 25th 2004, 1:32 AM
i really don't see how thwy could do that its just a big cube theres nothing to reverse engenere
Posted by: systemlord234 May 10th 2004, 2:45 PM
a new breed of solder.. nice
Posted by: mace Jun 11th 2004, 9:06 PM
The thing that kinda bugs me about this episode: If they're planning to try to catch a SS with heavy armor, shouldn't they at least bring some anti-armor weapons? I hear the latest single-man anti-tank rockets can go through like a foot of steel. Maybe they don't know if it would work, but I would think it beats shooting at it with weapons that you know won't work.
Posted by: Vicki... Nov 14th 2004, 1:11 PM
I kinda liked the supersoldier, even though he was a tad Star Wars as someone said earlier. But I liked it when the explosions kept going off near him and he just walked straight through them...
My dad kept yelling at the tv "Its Arnie, the terminator" - so I'm guessing he didn't like SS...
Posted by: Dafmeister Nov 14th 2004, 4:16 PM
| QUOTE (mace @ Jun 12th 2004, 3:06 AM) |
| The thing that kinda bugs me about this episode: If they're planning to try to catch a SS with heavy armor, shouldn't they at least bring some anti-armor weapons? I hear the latest single-man anti-tank rockets can go through like a foot of steel. Maybe they don't know if it would work, but I would think it beats shooting at it with weapons that you know won't work. |
As you say, they wanted to catch it, not kill it. So choosing anti armour weapons that go through a foot of steel is probably not the best weaopn to use if you want catch something alive.
Posted by: Evo Nov 15th 2004, 2:56 PM
The episode was cool. Jackson kidnapped, new supersoldiers (which I like). It was a very cool episode. Daniel was very confident that his friends would come for him; which that is a good thing.
When they opened the Supersoldier's helmet, his face was awesome. I need to get myself a mask for halloween
Posted by: wonderland Nov 15th 2004, 7:11 PM
| QUOTE (Jonas Quinn @ Nov 15th 2004, 2:56 PM) |
| When they opened the Supersoldier's helmet, his face was awesome. I need to get myself a mask for halloween |
I simply cannot stand that sucking sound when Sam pulls the mask off, that makes my "things that make you go ewwww" list.
Posted by: Dr Sam Nov 23rd 2004, 12:05 PM
Now THIS is stargate! Finally! A really good episode! My faith is restored.
Seriously, I had been starting to worry that after 701/702 Season 7 was going to turn out to be really dead in comparison to the others - especially with less RDA. But I'd seen odd spoilers for the second half of S7 so I was hopeful that it would get better - which indeed seems to be the case if this ep is anything to go by. And I know Part 2 and 'Grace' are going to be worth seeing, so the next couple of weeks look good!
More action, a new enemy, RDA is back (hence better team dynamics), Daniel is back to digging around in ancient temples...as I said, THIS is stargate!
Can't wait for part 2....
Posted by: Kromando33 Jan 13th 2005, 4:49 AM
Is it just me or did the whole super-soldier remind you of old Darth Vader, i mean apart from the obviously black armor look and all. Breathing aparatus, fused into the suit etc... Did anyone else notice this...??
Posted by: CouncilScribe May 3rd 2005, 9:15 AM
JUst watched this episode again, gotta love Daniel indiana jones ing his way around Houndouras.
I forgot how much firepower a Super Solider can take that's alot explosives, when they get the super solider to speak it's quite animal like.
Posted by: Lord Joe Sep 21st 2005, 5:13 AM
Evolution pt 1 is one of my favourite episodes for season 7. The introduction of the super soldier was a brilliant scene and the look on Bra' tac's face was just priceless. 
Posted by: IndyJan Jul 28th 2008, 9:29 PM
Just watched this episode today on SCI-FI during their daylong marathon. Trying to figure out where this ancient device might be, Daniel remembers his grandfather Nick, who had been doing some research into it. Daniel mentioned Nick and goes to his own lab and grabs papers and books to help show where he thinks the device is located. This would have been a perfect episode to mention what had happened to Nick and the "giant aliens." But, they did not. 
Posted by: iacon Jul 20th 2009, 4:15 AM
This would only leave other humans (maybe Asguard?
) to use the armbands to an advantage. The Asgard would probably break themselves. haha
This would have been a perfect episode to mention what had happened to Nick and the "giant aliens." But, they did not.
I was totally wondering what happened to Nick and those giant aliens last week!
Posted by: Dafmeister Jul 21st 2009, 3:20 AM
Nothing happened, TPTB left that particular thread hanging. Michale Shanks proposed a storyline to tie up the thread but it was rejected. What with the recent death of Jan Rubes, it will never happen now.
Posted by: IndyJan Aug 24th 2009, 3:52 PM
Nothing happened, TPTB left that particular thread hanging. Michale Shanks proposed a storyline to tie up the thread but it was rejected. What with the recent death of Jan Rubes, it will never happen now.
I know, but as I said in this episode they could have just taken a few minutes to say, "Nick came back, had tons of info to share, and no they were not the YOU KNOW WHO!"
Now with his death, he cannot return, but they could still to a story/movie and have it include what he did and what he found out.
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