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Posted by: Arcady Mar 8th 2004, 3:44 PM

Episode 22 - Lost City (Part Two)
Air Date: (UK) March 9, 2004
Air Date: (US) March 19, 2004

Anubis begins an assault on Earth, and the planet's only hope of salvation depends on whether SG-1 can find the Ancients' mythical Lost City.
Guest starring http://www.jessicasteen.com/ as Dr. Elizabeth Weir.
(Part 2 of 2.)

http://www.sg1archive.com/s7credits.shtml#722 | http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f;=2&t;=3357 | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/722.html

(This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

Posted by: Raxor Mar 9th 2004, 5:57 PM

Great episiode but sort of a cliffhanger, the ending was a little rushed but i give it
***1/2

special effects were the bomb and i see why they made some cheap episodes the cg looked nice but i didnt like the new design for the ring platforms.

and the new president > anubis, he just took the piss outta him quality stuff
i was expecting more from the end, like a big honking space gun...

Posted by: DayDreamingPixie Mar 9th 2004, 6:01 PM

I thought that ep was great from the beginning. The battle scenes were amazing... I got such a buzz and even squieled (to odd looks from my family) when the X302s went head on with the gliders.

Hammond captaining the promethius was great. He final got into some real action.

I liked the strange things that strangely looked like the robots in hte matrix, at the end. That weopon sure kicked ass.

Teal'c and Jacks moment was moving.
Sams look was moving
Bratacs smile was moving.

I wouldnt of minded the human race to be of taken over just to wipe the smile of Kinseys face, but the pres did that for me.

Finally, I liked Weir this ep, I wouldnt of minded her staying in command. Oh well...

A job well done to the writers.

Posted by: Papercut Mar 9th 2004, 6:02 PM

the ep was great, good build up last week and a cool ending. they could of made the weapon better though, but that was classy still.
Hayes was wiked when he spoke to anubis. comedy value 10/10
Also the shut the hell up to kinsey made his rating rocket.
Less adverts and more battle scenes with anubis's fleet would have been great but i still give it 10/10
best ep made in a long while. dont like these politicals much anymore

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 9th 2004, 6:11 PM

WOW what an episode i loved it!!!! It is by far the best episode ever!!!! And it does make full circle (an episode which i think is brill) seem average if you know what i mean.

There were so many good moments to this episode and the battles were amazing and ANUBIS GOT DESTROYED!!!!! Those things that destroyed him looked very weird but they did look alien.

And how they ended it with jack in stasis!!! How can they leave it like this!!!! Im going to have to wait till september to be able to see how it unfolds and this does make it a good opener for the next series i assume.

And they still havent found the lost city yet!!!! I thought that this episode was called the lost city because they were going to find it, but they didnt, just an outpost. But a neat twist and that does also make it look more promising for the atlantis pilot.

And the shipie moments too were there aswell and i liked what they did with it though i would have rathered them say what they were thinking then say it in...the way they did.

I was also hoping before the episode started that the prometheus would get destroyed but as soon as i saw gary jones on it i really wanted it to survive, seriously. But i suppose its probably for the best that it wasnt destroyed for the future of the show.

And i saw that jaffa was going to be bad from when we first saw him, when he said he wanted to tag along that made it obvious, i dont know about other people and if they saw it coming.

And 30+ motherships!!! weve never seen a system lord have that many before.
And herac got destroyed!!!! I liked him!!! I wanted him to have lived but oh well.

And it made it unclear if the world found out or not, it would make sence that they would know given that the ships did fly over the antarctica and it wouldnt make sence no one in the world monitoring it. I hope that the world does know.

Im glad they stuck with the crossword thing too from pt1 and that was funny, i liked some of the humour in this episode.

Now on to the bad points (yes there are some) Firstly they made it to obvious the jaffa was bad. Secondly i know poeple liked this but i thought that the president wasnt taking anubis in his office seriously enough, in real life he would be scared out of his pants but he wasnt, he was acting cocky which isnt realistic, I know peopole like that because its like jack but its unrealistic, the presedent would take these sort of situations seriously. But thats it for the bad points

Overall a great episode and it very well deserves 10/10 and im sure you will all agree with me.

Ps ive never made a post this long before. When i think of more (which i will) ill post more. And i assume the 606 people that were on this website earlier was because of this episode. I wonder how many people will be on when this is shown in america.

Posted by: o neill 2 lls Mar 9th 2004, 6:12 PM

a great ep indeed, it was amazing to see the x302s go head to head with the death-gliders but i wonder have we seen the last of anubis......

Posted by: Mut Mar 9th 2004, 6:15 PM

OMG!!! It was soooooo great, loved the special effects. When is Season 8 out!!!
No to soon? I'll just have to watch every stargate I have on tape.
I loved the acting in this ep, everything that needed to be said was in the looks.
Great fight scene DAMN SKY ONE for putting a damn break in just as i was getting into it. Even my dad yelled B*****d at the TV.
I'll give in 100/100 and an A** to the special effects guys

Posted by: Felger Mar 9th 2004, 6:26 PM

Brilliant but not in a way i expected!

A definite ****1/2

Some good points such as the humour from Henry Hayes. I loved the way in which he spoke to Anubis and told Kinsey to resign, that was brilliant dialogue!

I also enjoyed the way in which Dr. Weir at least attempted a joke and realised rather quickly what was happening when main power went down, it helped to create a more "human" feeling about her, instead of an intrusion in SGC.

I also loved the way in which Jack wrote the address to the planet in a crossword...there are some more obvious ways but it worked!.

The showing of ancient technology was brilliant, the neural interface is excellent and also i have to say the weapon(s)!!! That was brilliant, the best guided weapon ever! Although i was expecting big, massive cannons that fire lightning.

The ring technology was finally identified as ancient and not Goa'uld! Glad that was cleared up.

The heroic defence of Hammond and the F-302's and also Hammond's willingness to sacrifice his own life to save Earth! All excellent!!!

However having said ALL that, i feel that there were a few bad points.

The first of which was the fact that nothing happened between Sam and Jack of any significance and he had resigned, so there as nothing stopping them!!!!

Second was the fact that there was no real threat from the Goa?uld they just sent a few shots down at the Aircraft carriers, sent a few attack gliders and then got blown up!!

I am sure there are more but i am VERY tired and want to re-watch the episode.

So i think its is a brilliant season finale!!!

Posted by: Nottingham Mar 9th 2004, 6:28 PM

yeah damn good end of series ep, I give it 10/10
special effects in this one where totally cool, I thought it was starwars for a second there, hammond on the prometheus, yeah go get 'em boy...
its eps like this that make the series what it is and what with the crap thats about at the moment, for gods sake dont cancel the series and leave us with atlantis.
with a series this strong, I'd say that stargate will keep running for season 9 and beyond...and Atlantis down the crapper where it belongs

Posted by: aka_big_wurm Mar 9th 2004, 6:31 PM

Best episode ever, except the ending.

Posted by: Majikthize Mar 9th 2004, 6:50 PM

That oficially rocked my world. This may just have been the episode that turns me from a nonchalant fan to an obsessive. Damn, I promised I never do that again. And yes, I am late to the party, but lucky for me I got Sky One!

Ok so I always get very excited when I see lot and lots of buzzy little spaceships trying to blow up a big f**koff one, followed by man's last best hope purposefully ramming itself in a kamikaze run into the enemy. Yay!
Not quite a space battle, more a hovering over the Antarctic battle, but a damn fine show from us Tauri. Hammond rocks, Hayes rocks, Jack rocks, Bratac rocks, Teal'c Sam and Daniel rock and even Dr Weir rocks kind of. I loved this episode and soon, I may find some other words that "rocked" to describe it. Right now I'm sticking with "rocked".

I wasn't expecting such a range of emotions within the space of one hour. The humour at the start, and pretty much throughout was unexpected because I thought it was going to be a tense Earth-in-peril/lots-of-angst type. Proof that Jack O'Neill does indeed rock the world even when he's not saying anything and being uncharacteritically smart. I didn't realise I was missing him until now. It was also so...well I wouldn't say sad but they definitely upped the angst quotient. Being a huge angst fan and an even huger angstromance fan I was completely in love with the ending of this episode. I loved the shippiness. Hey, I'm a shipper, what did you expect? Given the way it's been bigged up in spoilers I was expecting something really dramatic, but it was refreshingly subtle enough not to enrage the majority of non shipper type fans. Yeah, just a nice teamly moment of concern...only us rabid romantics could ever interpret that as anything more. Heh heh.

And the Prometheus helmed by Hammond and...was that Chevron Guy sitting there being a hero? Whoo hoo! It may not have saved the day and might be a little lame and ungainly as space craft go but it's ours dammit and it kept our boys (and girl) safe while they found the weapon that would save us. And what a weapon too. I've never seen anything so destructive look so beautiful (except my brothers ex but that's another story). Does this mean that earth has got a permanent ultra powerful weapon on standby any time we need it, or was this a one off deal?

I loved Kinsey getting what was coming to him. Pity he didn't actually get anything more than booted out of politics though. Good to see him skulking off with his tail bewtween his legs. I expect we'll see him resurface with even less scruples and even more capacity to do real harm in season 8

Poor Jack. Obviously not in the least bit comfortable with the thought that his mind is about to go ga ga and turn him into the savoiur of mankind. Mind you the pressure of knowing that you're earth's last best hope must be quite something to deal with. And all Sam, Daniel and Teal'c could do was follow him hopelessly and try and keep up with him. Didn't expect to see him doing that healing thing though, but kind of cool. Does this mean that the Ancient knowledge is actually overwriting his DNA as well as his brain and making it possible that he is, actually, turning into an ancient? Maybe it's just something he tapped into that humans could do anyway if we knew how...actually that would be pretty cool too.
Mostly I loved the ending. Did I already say that? Well good enough to say again IMPO. What a cliffhanger! Earth is safe but Jack is frozen in carbonite...er...I mean an Ancient pod device thing. It was a little Han Solo in the carbonite thing though wasn't it? All we were missing was a desperate and impassioned "I love you" and an "I know" and a couple of knowing looks and...hey, wait a minute! Hmmm. I'm not complaining much though because I still reckon if you're going to pay homage to something you might as well make it one of the best movies ever made.

I'm extremely glad that the lost city turned out not to be in the Antarctic after all. I think that would have been a little pompous. I'm also extremely glad that this didn't turn out to be an extended pre-pilot for Atlantis. Yes there were wee mentions there but it was totally an episode in it's own SG1 right and a brilliant way to end the season. I can honestly say that if they never made another episode I'd be more than happy with that as the end. Fortunately they are making more. Can't bloody wait now.

Favourite line: Under celestial body he wrote Uma Thurman"
Has Jack O'Neill all over it.

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 9th 2004, 7:02 PM

Oh and one more complaint which i am annoyed at and have only just realised is that in the lowdown they prommised us we would find everything about the ancients like where they are now and what theyve been doing sice they accended but we got none of this in any way which i am annoyed at. They promissed us and they havent delivered. I thought they would in this episode but they didnt!!!

And i also would have though it would have been good if they had shown a far off shot of those sentinels attacking the gould ships, like a really far off shot that we can see loads of the ships being attacked at once by the sentinels. That would have been cool!!

Brill episode though

Posted by: JC1 Mar 9th 2004, 7:10 PM

Great episode and a good end to a not so good season. Anyway, I enjoyed this two parter, the battle secenes were great, Kinsey got fired, the President was like Jack especially when talking to Anubis and Kinsey. There were some things about this episode that kind of annoyed me though.

It was obvious the Jaffa with the ship would betray them.

Where were the Asgard, There not fighing the Replicators anymore shouldn't they have sent a few ships to help us when Anubis' fleet showed up.

What was with Anubis' battle strategy? Take out a battle group and knock out communications. Why didn't he level a couple of cities and then ask for Earths surrender.

I hope thats not the end of Anubis. If it was, it wasn't a good exit for his character and there are still unansweared questions about him and the Ancients.

Overall it was a great episode and these last few episodes have been really good. Im looking forward to seeing what happens in season 8 and Atlantis.

Posted by: o neill 2 lls Mar 9th 2004, 7:42 PM

totally agree with ya jc1,

Posted by: SlavsyaRossiya Mar 9th 2004, 7:57 PM

All I can really say is.....

Posted by: Jack_O'Neill Mar 9th 2004, 7:59 PM

Hey, first off i'd just like to say that this is by far the best episode from season 7, "Cruvas, a little fronic" was just great and Carters expression, lol.

However i seem to have noticed a bad point that nobody else has posted.

When O'Neill is making the ship go faster and Carter says that she was given permission to take over, why did she say General Hammond said she could take command? I mean, he isn't the head of the SGC anymore and i assume since when they are in the battle over antarctica that she tells him it's good to see him, that she hasn't seen him since he went to washington, though i may be wrong about that, but still... why does she say General Hammond authorised her to do so?

Posted by: SlavsyaRossiya Mar 9th 2004, 8:20 PM

Perhaps she meant it in a general sense.

Posted by: col.oneill Mar 9th 2004, 8:25 PM

excellent stuff, cant wait now for season 8...
oneill really makes the show what it is...with those one liners (I really hope he dont leave as I think hes the best on there)
now to watching them all again on VHS, got the first two dvds of season 7, totally cool or what, this series will never get old and I hope will run with season 9 with oneill and his one liners...its just watching the opening credits really gives u a buzz with the stargate theme tune
I dont agree with the season 7 not being that good, sure there are a few eps but I would say than can be the case in all seasons there are "Filler" eps that are Non-story arc related, its really good. season 6 was okay, it did have 2 eps with daniel in so not a dead loss there.
I reckon the show will survive to the 9th season, as if you think about it there lining up Atlantis along side Season 8, so if Atlantis bombs in the ratings, then they will still have SG1 on season 8. I mean is that you'll never find another cast to replace SG1, it just aint gonna happen.

Posted by: me101 Mar 9th 2004, 8:47 PM

Just got the 7x22 ep via BT and burned to cd-rw, and started watching... cannot wait...

Posted by: aka_big_wurm Mar 9th 2004, 8:58 PM

Posted by: SupremeCommanderThor Mar 9th 2004, 9:06 PM

Posted by: Mike Mar 9th 2004, 9:50 PM

A great episode. Some nonstop action, suspense and the chicken sh!t Kinsey runs when it all comes down. An adventure in which Earth had to handle the matter all by itself with the true friendship of a couple of long standing Jaffa. I can only envision what a season 8 episode will be like when Jack comes face to face with the Tok'ra again.

Posted by: JohnY Mar 9th 2004, 10:02 PM

Annubis took out all the communications and such so we couldn't retal to the ships. The first rule of war is to take out communications. And also this was very cleverly written to still keep the stargate a secret. They are sticking to the meteor story and when they saw the bright lights in the sky when they were blown up they can say they blew up a big comet with nukes when it was headed towards earth like in Armagedon.

But Annubis not destroying cities was because he wanted to take the Ancient tech and not destroy it. Annubis wants more powerful weapons else he could have just destroyed the whole planet after the scout ship was untouched when destroying a fleet of naval ships.

By destroying communications they also stopped the mobilization of troops and planes. The I mean they used regular missles to take out the ships that was at the south pole, they could have easily taken alot of them out with regular f-16 fighters, surely they are at a disadvantage but with the military force of the whole earth they would outnumber those gliders 100 to 1.

This was THE best episode to date IMO. Full of emotions, all the previous seasons built up to this moment; and it was worth the wait.

I can't wait for Season 8 / Atlantis, I wonder who will fix O'neill. I'm thinking they find Atlantis and take O'neill there to cure him. But I hope that the Asgards help instead, I love those guys!

Posted by: chris_hotwire Mar 9th 2004, 10:15 PM

4.5 Stars.

Now instead of waiting for a week for the conclusion, I'm waiting 3 and a half months!

Damn you season 7!

Posted by: JC1 Mar 9th 2004, 10:20 PM

Posted by: kitsune Mar 9th 2004, 11:31 PM

wow

not enough words...too much homework...

anywho, I counted around 25 deathgliders, and only 5 alkesh, rather puny when you consider the number of motherships. I also counted about 20 302's. During the battle, the Prometheus had already taken some damage, and yet it was almost to the mothership when the shields were just about gone. Also, it amazed me that we only had the one 303, I was expecting 2 at the very least.

Another thought: who was holding the super soldier eradication rod (credit for name to odin)? I was watching closely after I saw one get hit, and I am pretty sure it wasn't Teal'c or Sam, and they didn't show Daniel much.

The best part about this ep was the amount of material crammed into it, something exciting was always happening. I have gone through every episode, and I didn't find one that I liked better, it was quite a finale.

Posted by: Hawkman Mar 9th 2004, 11:43 PM

Posted by: Mike Mar 10th 2004, 12:14 AM

Posted by: Raz Mar 10th 2004, 12:42 AM

Brilliant starting with the crossword bit and the fact that he named Uma Thurman!! Very funny. Also good that he started speaking Ancient quite early on cos it got quite funny with a fronache and being cruvas! I was a bit disappointed at the beginning of the break because we didn?t get to see the ships exiting hyperspace coming to Earth.
When I saw Ronan for the first time I thought he looked like a betrayer and then my theory was confirmed when he stabbed Brat?ac. I thought he was going to die but he still kicked his ass! And then thank god O?Neill cured him!! I don?t want to see Brat?ac leave the series!!
THE ABSOLUTE IMMENSENESS OF THE ANTARCTIC BATTLE cannot be desciribed in words. It was without doubt the best battle scene EVER in the history of Stargate!! Gliders, Alkesh, F302?s and Prometheus kicking each others ASS!!! C?mon it was completely MENTAL!!! Its as if Robert Cooper, Bard Wright and every other writer aswell as the visual FX department gave us all what we asked for!! Also the hyperspeed of the cargo ship was pretty good!! Nice to see it going at such a fast speed!
And then the ending! WHOA!!! Prometheus going for a head on collision with Anubis? fleet!! And then Jack completely obliterates it with a beam of weapons!! Prometheus survives too and Anubis is gone (for now!!) !!!
Bit of a sad ending but I know from spoilers that its not the end!.........

Infinity/10 for me because that episode was too good to be measured!!!

Till September (or June/July) for America!!

Posted by: MrWiggles Mar 10th 2004, 1:01 AM

I just got done watching this episode and it completely kicked ass. I loved it and I personally think its one of the best, if not the best episode. The war scenes were freakin awesome but there were a few minor things I kinda wish were different.

I agree with everyone who said the Presidents reaction wasn't like it would be in real life. If an enemy we had never seen before that was threatening to destroy earth had projected themselves into a room like that I would have crapped myself. It was still funny though.

I was also under the assumption they were going to find the lost city. You don't know how badly I wanted to see that! But I guess that?s what the first episode of season 8 is for, along with the Atlantis spin off. Since there is a season 8, it makes me question whether or not Anubis is really dead. (they need something to do for an entire season) Since he can "ascend" wouldn't he just take that form after he dies just like everyone else has that has ascended before? Also I liked the weapon they used, but I expected to see some huge ancient version of the ion cannon blast Anubis.

One last thing... is it just me or was anyone else wanting a huge war where the Asgard, possibly the Furlings (if they ever decide to freaking show them), and maybe a surprise appearance by the Ancients, help us to dominate the goa'uld and save our planet? I think that would be awesome but maybe I just want too much

Posted by: ---Qetesh--- Mar 10th 2004, 1:18 AM

oh my gosh!!!! that was like the coolest episode ever!!!
practically everything in it was gd! but does anyone know quite wat jack sed at the very end ?before daniel sed goodbye.
not really much of sam/jack thing but quite gd when she was like "dont die on us now!"
very very kool!
season 8 hurry up!

Posted by: Peta919 Mar 10th 2004, 1:25 AM

In a word:
UN-FU@KING-BELIEVABLE

In two words:
ABSOLUTELY UN-FU@KING-BELIEVABLE

In three words:
ABSOLUTELY UN-FU@KING-BELIEVABLE DAMMIT



Okay, I think I am going back and watching this again, and again, and again.

Posted by: SierraGulf1Niner Mar 10th 2004, 1:37 AM

.am.speechless.

.am.teary.

.am.going.to.die.

.can't.wait.for.season.8.

I know that Jack is going to live, but OMG, the last scence. <gasp> had me all in tears.

"JACK" <--HEEH! my heart stopped.

him saying goodbye and her looking at him for the "last" time <--WHOAH. my heart DROPPED <and still not beating by the way>.

I liked the episode! From the little bits of humor in the beginning, the intense middle, and the heartbreaking ending. It was good from beginning to end.

...where's the lost city of Atlantis? ahem. 'stay tuned for the NEW show, Stargate:Atlantis'.

So my ratings are
Two thumbs up.
****1/2
9/10 (just because I missed Frasier, and more of Jack's witty remarks)

Posted by: Deathcrow Mar 10th 2004, 2:28 AM

Very great Ep! I loved the weapon of the ancients, as someone has said before: "it has style" because it is not this big "hunkin" gun, but sth much more ancient-like.
I am really thinking about the fact that there could be more outposts like that, and maybe we will find some living ancients, who are frozen there like Jack is now.
And i hope that this was the end for Anubis, i want to have a new enemy he sucks now.
Maybe it would not have been to bad to see some people die... i really expectet Hammond to leave us in this ep. This would have been a great end for a awesome character, and now he just may sit in some office and talk shit. This does not fit in Hammonds role, but oh well.... stilll 10/10 points , because i am also happy that he did not die

Posted by: eliminator Mar 10th 2004, 3:12 AM

O.M.G Best episode ever. It had action, great special effects, moving moments between all characters, humour, suspense.

there were too many moments to even comment on, but one was I thought Bra'atac would die, but then came Jack all ancient and did that special healing thing. Then there was the kinsey being threatened whle he was on the phone to Dr Weir. "Shut the HELL UP!" "Sorrry sir" "No not you Dr Weir, I'm talking to kinsey" "Mr president..." "Kinsey your fired, I've got enough on you so that i could get you shot!" "Mr president...no" "I'll go back to my first point, SHUT THE HELL UP!"
Best damn scene until The president humoured Anubis, then when the hologramleft he said "Do you think that was to much?" Brilliant!

When Jack was sitting in the chair thingy before te yellow energy thing was activated I tought the SS' were going to shoot Jack while he was in the chair, they were just standing there shooting Sam, and Teal'c (Where was Daniel, did he stay on board the cargoship with Braa'tac?) but did that huge scene with the energy beam heading straight through all of the battle to Anubis' ship, did that look like Independence Day (the film) but the situation was reversed?

Oh sorry, i give this ***** a 5 star rating.

Posted by: Cirus Mar 10th 2004, 3:17 AM

What i wanted to say has been said by about 10 others so i won't repeat it but I loved this ep i'll explain in more detail when i finish school

Posted by: JohnY Mar 10th 2004, 3:29 AM

Posted by: cjp_24 Mar 10th 2004, 3:39 AM

Wow. See all the wait and suspense and they give us a wicked episode. I think the last episode should of been 2 hours alone.

Anyway about the ancient weapon. I think it was cool. I think we was all thinking and waiting for other kind of weapons like guns and space canons but this was cool and I did like them the way they were controlable, the way they went around the prometheus and then staight into Anubus's ship. way cool.

Anyway, does anyone have any clues to what they were?

Cliff

Posted by: Albion Mar 10th 2004, 3:50 AM

Now THAT was a kickass episode!

Loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it. Loads of wonderful humour, some terrific moments of character relationship (CJ was, I thought, perfect as the stoic Jaffa desperate to help his friend, but utterly helpless as to how to go about doing it - that scene between him and Jack on the ship had me choked up) - heck I even loved the space battles. <G> That shot of the ships coming over the ice was breathcatching.

There were too many moments to quote or mention really - and that has to spell an episode I'll watch time and again and enjoy over and over.

Sam: That's an order.
Jack: Easy...

Talking of which - the Hammond giving command question. That struck me at the time too. But then I just assumed Carter meant right back at the start - just after they returned through the gate. Hammond was still in command of the SGC for quite a bit after Jack was...infected...with the Ancients knowledge and they already knew how it would pan out and how he would be affected. So it's not surprising Hammond would have given Carter those instructions early on. Perhaps in the briefing room meeting, after Jack had left to watch his favourite TV show. That would seem the obvious time for it.

Kinsey - well, what can you say? <G> Loved the shut the hell up scene. The teaser with the crossword, the commisery scene...all of the great moments between the team and Jack. Hey, is it just me or did anyone else think that what Jack said at the end was a little too long to just mean 'goodbye'? Maybe Daniel was using shorthand and we'll be told later that Jack said something else there too.

There were a couple of things I could complain about - if I was being churlish. There was a touch of same old, same old about it. Been there... Space fleet attacking Earth, Jack running around doing things and not knowing why, Kinsey blustering his way out the door, Teal'c and Bra'tac get betrayed by one of their own.... how many times is that now? (Knew the Ronan was a bad guy right from the getgo - shifty eyes)

And I did think the last ten minutes were a little rushed and thus a bit of an anti-climax. Defeating Anubis was just too easy after all that buildup.

But for all that this was an episode that's already a favourite - and how I'm going to survive till S8 I have no idea. <whimper>

Albion

Posted by: GuNdj Mar 10th 2004, 4:03 AM

HOLY MACARONI!

Finished watching the episode about an hour ago.
Downloaded both the 418mb VCD version and the 350mb XviD version, hehe.
I have this to say... *Ahem*...
Best... Episode... Ever.

However I have a few small complaints about the episode,
I think they should have shown a wider shot of all 30 Motherships. Especially when they were being blown to hell by that kick ass weapon!
I also think the episode wasn't long enough. It seemed that there was too much squashed into such a small amount of time. It should have been a special length episode or something

But they are all trivial complains, and they are all forgot when you realise how AWESOME this episode is! I give it 11 out of 10.

I LOVED Kinsey's reaction when Anubis appeared in the Oval Office. And again when he almost lost it after they closed the Iris. Reminds me of Politics in Season 1 and how much I love Kinsey's character, in a hateful way of course...

I've always liked the whole mythological aspect of the show, so the line "Terra Atlantis" especially peaked my interest, sounds so awesome too!

I can't express in words how much this episode rocked! I'll be watching Part 1 and 2 many many MANY times over the coming weeks

Posted by: Lord Yu Mar 10th 2004, 4:19 AM

Fantastic 10/10
Loved it all.

Daniel was on the surface because i'm pretty sure i saw him using the super soldier eradication rod on the side of his gun.

The ship battle was fantastic, best one yet.

Roll S8

Posted by: Catherine Mar 10th 2004, 5:38 AM

Sweet episode.

I loved the last few minutes, i was trying get through the tv to break that stuff around jack.

Agree with albion that bit where sam orders jack is soooo funny. The jack teal'c moments were moving shame there weren't more jack/sam moments.

i need season 8 like NOW! i think i might get withdrawal syptoms.ARGH!

Posted by: Jon The UK SG-1 Fan Mar 10th 2004, 6:24 AM

That ep was so perfect for the invasion and everything. I thought it was cool how Jack was gathering the bits and pieces to take with them on the cargo ship. He did similar things when building the device to lock the 8th chevron. General Hammond was so cool almost crashing into Anubis and the huge fire fight between 302?s and death gliders was well done. I thought the part was funny where Anubis appeared in the Presidents office and the President was basically just taking the piss asking for him to surrender and all
It was a bit annoying how SG1 and Bra?tac had to travel to that world just to find out the location of the Lost City was on Earth, or I guess it wasn?t as we later found out, it was just an outpost. But nm it still got the job done and kicked Anubis?s ass, those things that destroyed his fleet looked like golden Jellyfish LOL. I thought the part where Teal?c was trying to talk to O?Neill was quite moving as O?Neill couldn?t talk back so he just put his hand on Teal?c?s shoulder and looked him in the eye and T got the message. I?m not sure how the storyline for season 8 that was recently posted in the spoilers section will work because Jacks frozen in that device???

10/10

Posted by: ramuund Mar 10th 2004, 6:31 AM

*Crys on her knees on the floor with 100's of empty kleenex boxes*

......And we have to wait for season eight to come here all the way in September! *starts crying again*

That had to be, and i am not under estimating, the best season finale and out right episode that SG-1 could of possibly pulled out of their hat.

To start off with. I was a little miffed, a usual thing with me, that they didn't do the " in previous episodes.." thing at the beginning. I guess they didn't have the time to fit it in with all the t.v candy they had in there.

I actually, perhaps that shows my gullability, didn't suspect for one moment, until in the ship, that the Jaffa was a baddy. It was sad because he was alright looking! lol.....have to find a silver lining in everything.

I was emotionally drained from all the scenes, that even though they were subtle, they said a hell of alot and just looks did it for me. I was a bit pissed, after reading spoilers ages back, that there was that " i love you" crap in ancient at the end.....who ever said was going to happen is in for a whoopass'ing- as i had my heart set on watching that all through the episode!

Out of ten i am going to give this episode a big....10000000000000000000000000/10.....that would be a slightly top heavy fracton but when you have an episode like that- you will forgive me.


All, unfortunatly, we can do now, and all we have to do, is wait for season eight to hit are screens. It isn't that long away for the people in the states but, for the few who live in Britian and can't download to save there lives, will have to wait about 7 bloody months!!!!!* runs around screaming*= "It can't be true...we need a stargate season eight fix now! lmao

well that is all i can think to say, well worth it anyway, so come on season eight- we are waiting eagerly with open arms for you...................

p.s if they have quality like this and ratings high then they ight reconsider there current stance on the show continuing heehee


Rammy out!

Posted by: Hammond Of Texas Mar 10th 2004, 6:40 AM

WOW! what an episode. It had everything; a battle involving the Prometheus, Kinsey getting what he deserved (finally), an Ancient weapon, Goa'uld ships getting blown to pieces, emotional scenes, humour and so much more!

I cannot wait 6 months for season 8, I think I might explode! I'd also love for it to continue for as long as possible. For every slightly poor episode (in my opinion there were none in season 7, I thought they were all good) we get one like this to make up for them all.

Posted by: Behenna Mar 10th 2004, 6:52 AM

Now that was a good ep! exseilly when u saw all the gou'ald ships coming over the glasier to attack the cargo ship and find out there is a lot of X302's and the X303 coming up on the other side and wow weeeeeee, bits of ship flying everywhere!. I could see that jaffa that they took with them would most prob betry them and say he was on anubis side from the beginning! it was an obverisous plot twist!

Woot Kinsely got fired! and everyone now thinks he is a piece of chicken shit for running when no one else did

Great ep now 6 months to wait for S8 and to find out is the asgaurd could do anything for jack! infact i think there the only ones that could!

Posted by: Corporal McKee Mar 10th 2004, 7:17 AM

That weapon they used was awesome. It wasn't even nearly effected by Anubis' mothership's shields. IMO that is a lot better than some laser beam fired out of a cannon. Very creative, very well done.

I give it a *****.

Posted by: ramuund Mar 10th 2004, 7:18 AM

Just to add to what i said, which i got reminded of whilst readin B's post, is that; Did anyone else get a almight *thudd* in there hearts when they saw the Tau'ri coming to defend the carge ship..

"Sir, we are going toget are arsses...."
"They are not Goa'uld...."

OMG! That just gave me the over whelming sensation of joy and pride!

Posted by: Varun Mar 10th 2004, 8:37 AM

A huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge 10/10

MAGNIFICENT

U gotta luv those X302's going head on to the Gliders. That shot was great even if it was a little rushed. Most of the Gould shots and X302 shots were rushed IMO but the beautiful weapon thingy made my day.

Ronan seemed like a sob brom the beginning and I didnt really trust him. Atleast I'm happy he didnt get a chance to relay the position or anything. And Bratac whooped his ass. GO BRATAC.

Atleast Canada was informed about the attack. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE . I'm not Canadian yet but it was cool

Great storyling. I have to hand it to the writers. 7 seasons and still can come up with amazing cliffhangers. The ending did seem a bit rushed unlike Full Circle. But when u have to run halfaway across the galaxy to find something in your own backyard, u have to forgive them

Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 10th 2004, 8:38 AM

Now THAT was an SG1 episode to remember. I loved it. I take back what i said about season 8. If season 8 turns out like this ep, it will be excellent.

I loved the bit with Kinsey and Weir on the phone to the President. I reckon he'll be back in season 8 though (or even Atlantis???).

Loved the scene with the 302's coming in to help SG1. What happened to the other Colonel that commanded the Prometheus and the other officer that Walter replaced?

Good ending too. Wonder what happened to Anubis? Did he die? Did Oma/the other Ancients save him again (like in the final ep of season 6)? Cant wait to find out. Bring on season 8 and Atlantis.

Posted by: chris_in_the_uk Mar 10th 2004, 8:52 AM

I haven't seen it yet, i missed it due to Man Utd v Porto but soon as i get in from work/gym tonight it will be the first thing i do!

Sounds like a quality episode from what i've read

Posted by: Albion Mar 10th 2004, 9:14 AM

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Posted by: James Mar 10th 2004, 10:05 AM

I did find that the ending was far too rushed, there wasnt enough shots of the battle scenes with the 302s/303/death gliders/alkesh.

Also does anyone else think that the prometheus has AMAZING shields? They can stand up to a lot of fire from annubis's capital ship, which is bigger than the Ha'taks and id rekon even a cheops class. So even with asgard designed shields the promethius shouldnt have been able to stand up to more than a few seconds of his assult. Bearing in mind when osiris's ha'taks took out thor's ship... Slight gripe there.

Also i would have loved to see a ground assault, the supersoldiers were bairly used, and it would have been nice to see some of them on the ground! While im at it id have loved to have seen the ships taken out, instead of just reporting it over the phone, it would have put an edge on what was going on.

If i sound like i hated the episode, i didnt, i loved it, but i think everyones mentioned all the good points already!!!

9/10

Posted by: Varun Mar 10th 2004, 10:35 AM

Posted by: French Carter Mar 10th 2004, 10:36 AM

Yeah. A great one. I think the best episode I have ever seen.
Actors were fabulous, they are very convincing, mostly perfects in their characters. Special effects so beautiful and a story that keep us in an exiting feeling. I am so glad of this Season Final. It is so great, just perfect.
That will be very difficult to wait Atlantis/8thseason...

Posted by: three fries shortofa happymeal Mar 10th 2004, 10:39 AM

it was absolutely brilliant!!

i too felt it was a bit rushed at the end, but all the same brill

it had everythin a good episode needs, action effects and shippyness!!

i loved when teal'c went to talk to o'neill and o'neill just put his hand to his face, really sweet ( was it some sort of ancient power to transmit thoughts?)
i thought it was great when hammond took charge of the prometheus, it was asbout time he got some action


i would give it a definate 10/10 i loved evreyminute, although they should have made more of the end scenes

Posted by: crazypetealive Mar 10th 2004, 10:41 AM

I think they coulda added one small part to make it more intresting .. a fleet of asquard ships since they are suppose to be monitoring any space travel in our galaxy.. The entire time i was thinking where are some of our allies ? it would be sweet if the asquard had taken on anubis and they were getting there ass's kicked and we had saved the day for us and them with the weapon.
I think long term its gonna be goofy having hammond as capt if that happens. Since it has been suggested Jack takes control of the sgc.

Posted by: Colonel J. O'Neill Mar 10th 2004, 10:51 AM

This episode was great!!
I really like the new president, Kinsey finally got trouble.
It was also a very sad episode, exspecially the end... oh, please! Jack is not gonna die or anything, i mean, no one bought it!!
Still, have to wait till summer for season 8.

When is the first ep. of S8 airing anyway?

Posted by: The Doctor Mar 10th 2004, 11:01 AM

Great episode! Brilliant special effects, shame the battle was so short.

NOT the lost city! Kinda defies the title, dosent it? I dont think weve seen the last of Anubis though. mind you, he did look a little pissed off...

Posted by: Albion Mar 10th 2004, 11:10 AM

Posted by: jaffagod Mar 10th 2004, 11:29 AM

Never has an episode been on the receiving end of so much hype ; as seen by the fact that they record for most people on at once has been broken (606...wow!); but my question is "did it justify the hype?" In my opinion , and I know a lot of people will disagree with me, the answer is no. The trailer made me think of a very exciting ep with a HUGE space battle, not a sort of boring ep with a "little" fight above Antarctica.

The main gripe with this ep is that it seemed rushed. If it had been 20 minutes longer, it would have been nigh on perfect. The battle needed to be longer and the eventual destruction of Anubis seemed too easy. What was shown was very well done - the special effects were again magnificent and the acting was top notch.

Was it just me ordid the Prometheus seem too good? It seems that it was able to survive about 300 shots from Anubis's ship. That doesn't seem correct. Especially when it takes 50 more hits after "the next hit's gonna take us out". Anubis's ship, a replica of the ship which was able to destroy the pyramid couldn't destroy that tiny thing. Not right! Why didn't Anubis just use that mega weapon to destroy Antarctica??

What about that Ancient technology though? That has to be the most unusual and amazing "weapon" ever. Was it alive? It seemed to be "intelligent." Again though, it was just too easy. I can't see how there is a future in Stargate now. With that tech anyone that stands against us is in some serious crap.

Don't even get me started on the ending. I know it's meant to lead into Atlantis but come on...that's just plain terrible! It looked like it was an easy way to save time so they took advantage of it. What's actually happened to Jack anyway. Is he is stasis??

The best thing about he ep. was that battle above Antarctica...short as it was. The sight of the F-302's and the Alkesh and Death Gliders charging at one another was amazing but still not as good as I expected.

Overall it was a good episode but not what I expected and definitely not what the hype billed it to be. 8/10. It gains marks because we are finally rid of Anubis.
All thats left to say is bring on Season 8 and Atlantis. I don't know which one i'm more excited about.

PS: Im so late posting because I've been out all day.

Posted by: Hammond Of Texas Mar 10th 2004, 11:37 AM

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Posted by: thribs Mar 10th 2004, 12:34 PM

Great episode. Loved the speech from president Hayes to Anubis. He is alot like Jack.
Battle was great but it was a bit short.
Does that mean the Anubis is dead. Who is going to be the bad guy in season 8.
PS those "super-soldiers" are a bit useless now. I liked the way that no one could kill them.

Posted by: Kaileron Mar 10th 2004, 12:52 PM

I just watched 721 and 722 and i must say i was thrilled. Altough 721 was quite boring (not much interesting hapened) 722 was not.
The Antarctica Ice Battle was awesome, the entire clash between the the Tau'ri fighters and Anubis' force was brilliant. Altough i really did expect Anubis to simply launch everything he got against Earth at the same time. With that i mean making use of all those motherships against the biggest cities on our planet to destroy as many of us.
Still, the ending was quite sad and i cant wait until season 8 starts. I'm not sure if Anubis died but i do not think so. This end was to quickly and he would probably have beamed himself out or something... we havent seen the last of him yet.
The shippy-ness was to mushy and i still got my doubts on Wier since we will be seeing less of Hammond obviously. The supersoldiers were awesome of course but just what were those orange squid thingies under the ice that destroyed Anubis' forces?
Surely those werent the Ancients but what where they...?
Would make a good poll in spoilers and speculation me thinks

Squids:

Posted by: Deliximus Mar 10th 2004, 1:13 PM

WOW, incredible ep. all that smashed into one hour's time. 721 was a perfect setup for part 722.

I agree that it was good this time that the Asgard or some powerful force didn't show up to help. It may seem like we were 'lucky' again. However, it further proves how far behind we are technologically and how vulnerable we are.

There wasn't much shippiness in this ep (not as much as i anticipated it to be). it was just that scene in the scout's engineering room when jack said "i know". I felt there was more shippiness when Jack touched Teal'c HAHAHAHAHAH j/k

anyways, great ep. how long is the wait for s8?

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 1:14 PM

Those sentinels were a weapon by the ancients, it wasnt really live creatures it was more like very advanced technology that knows what to target and homes in on the enemy and destroys specific targets and its very advanced.
And i say congratulations to the makers of sg1 for making a weapon that is truely alien and an original idea, usually the weapons used on sg1 or other shows that are supposed to be alien are basically just different looking technology that fires different coloured lasers but in the end it is always a big gun that fires out a laser and sg1 managed to come up with something original that seems, and for the first time feels, alien. The makers did a very good job.

Posted by: MYOB Mar 10th 2004, 1:17 PM

Having read most of the posts ahead of mine, I'll try to detail as many points as possible.

1. It felt rushed at the end:
-I agree, but that is probably because the graphics of the x302's and deathgliders were flying by really fast, and this probably tricked the mind of the viewer into thinking things were going by really fast. The conclusion of the battle added to this. We were expecting a long drawn-out battle when they were in-fact, looking for a massive weapon to end it as fast as possible weren't they?

2. It didn't meet all the the hype:
-I don't recall seeing all that much hype, at least yet since this episode won't appear on the Sci-fi channel here for another week and a half. Here in the states things always get hyped big-time due to the overcommericalization of things.

3. The vice-president:
-I would like to have seen his reaction to the victory. To see whether he was upset or tried to chalk it up to SG-1's reckless behavior.

4. The Prometheus's weapons systems
- episode 6x17 had Thor stating they were going to install Asgard designed shields and weapons systems. Considering the size of Prometheus I would have expected it's size to limit the number and effectiveness of those weapons systems, but I still thought they should have been enough to take out the gould ships there in the anarctic? The 302's should have something other than mere rockets right?

5. Most power stations in the united states are close to cities and towns. No way are they being destroyed in a very loud and explosive manner from bursts of repetitive energy projectiles from the sky without drawing the attention of a wide array of people. The chances of this being chalked up to mere meteor showers wouldn't fly since the projectiles were mainly in single file, not dispersed like random shots.

6. Under no circumstances would the President remain in the white house, even if he was brave. He would at least been taken down into one of the many maze-like underground structures severla miles below ground to withstand any of the attacks. Considering how Anubis knows where they were, they should realize that if Anubis shot at ships at sea from above, they could easily just fire a single shot at the white house. They'd never know what hit them. The secret service would have removed him by force if they have to.

7. Jack made them go all that way out there to find a replacement power supply for the earth outpost? How did he know the one there at the outpost would be unused, how did he know the one there on earth was used up?

8. How is this going to affect the ongoing plotline that was put forth by 'Inauguration' and part-1? Is the vice-president fired? Clearly after what had happened he would no longer be vice president? In this case what would those private investors/donors going to do now that they know they're inside man is out? Worse, a vice-president doesn't resign or get fired without major, MAJOR public news and coverage? Kinsey will be humiliated and unable to run for public office again, except for perhaps the WH itself.

9. Anubis was in order for the better part of a day or more. At least that much by my counting. He did afterall wait for our response, plus start attacking naval vessels, so where were the Asgard? Did they remove their detection systems from Earth's proximity? They were there as of 6x11, which was how they knew how to track Prometheus?

10. The Ancient weapon system did indeed look a bit like the Matrix sentinels. Of course they could also be thought of as looking like those little orange creatures that followed Pac-Man around in the old Pac Man video game???

11. What happened to the transport system that Osirus used? Anubis should have been able to beam up anyone he chose right? He should have been able to transport a heck of a lot more super soldiers than those he did send down. Was it six??
He could also have beamed up SG-1 and put an end to the risks they might find and use something?

12. The episode name: Why call it the lost city if they don't actually find the lost city or discover it's whereabouts?

13. I thought Ronan's behavior was also suspicious from the start, and I got the impression that both Bratc and T' thought so too. They did look at each other with that strange impression on their face, Hmmmmmm?
I was half expecting Bratac to catch Ronan the moment he tried to pull something. Considering how cut throat the life of a Jafa in the service of a gould is, I'd of thought these people would be masters of recognizing deception and back-stab tactics?


Overall it was a great episode. I am to much of a fan of the series to let a few discrepencies get in my way of enjoying the episode.
I agree that the way the episode set itself up, and the season's ongoing conclusion lend itself to good drama.

I'd give it 9 out of 10 stars.
It's not my favorite episode, but it was good enough to come close.

My favorite is and always will be the season 3 finale, 3x22, the first appearance of the replicators and the subsequent followup in season 4, 4x01.

MYOB'
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Posted by: ThreeFriesShortOfAHappyMealWacko Mar 10th 2004, 1:18 PM

The last 15 minutes of the episode were the best part in the whole episode.
Was the outpost really the lost city?
Is the location of the lost city the setting of Stargate Atlantis?
Who will unfreeze O'Neill, The Asgard, Forget it.

Posted by: UltimateW Mar 10th 2004, 1:22 PM

Great finish for the season!!

But what was those ?? Accient sleeping ? or ? well... I wonder if we ever know.... What about the Asgards, a bit sad they didn't show up or the Ferlings (or how that is spelled)/ noxs

So when is season 8 to start and when will they sign up for 9

Posted by: Jack O'Neill Rules Mar 10th 2004, 1:44 PM

I think it is the best Episode of the Season 7 for sure!!!
I give it 10/10
Great battle near the end of episode!;)

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 1:46 PM

Posted by: Jack_O'Neill Mar 10th 2004, 1:53 PM

Hey, you might be interested to know this.

If i heard correctly, Jack says "Domada" at the end to Sam, but Daniel says that it was nothing. I have heard the rumours about the "I love you" and i believe this is it, although the phrasing is not I love you.

Dom is a variation of Domina which means lady or mistress, while ada is a variation of adamo which means to fall in love with... hence he has fallen in love with the lady aka Sam.

Posted by: ali Mar 10th 2004, 2:45 PM

Brilliant episode!!!! Loved it. I was shouting at the tv for most of it, things in the region of UP YOURS KINSEY!!! When my mum came in asking what on earth I was watching. I also screamed when Bra'tac got stabbed...she came running in asking what was the matter. All I said was 'stargate season finale mother' and made her leave the room, lol.
I think I'm gonna echo invisible painting here and say it was gooooooooooooood.

Posted by: SlavsyaRossiya Mar 10th 2004, 2:48 PM

Yeah, this episode was GREAT!!!! 10/10, great great great.
So great, in fact, I got the 350MB version after I got the 30MB version.
great episode!

Posted by: CrazyFeeny Mar 10th 2004, 3:00 PM

OMG!! What a beautiful episode!! I was loving EVERY single bit of it...the special effects were so cool. The battle scene between the X-302's and the gliders, that was spectacular! And the yellow...thingies were just amazing!!

Oh and some tear-jerking moments for me like the scene between Teal'c and Jack and at the end the Sam and Jack moments were very touching. 10/10 definitely for this episode! It's in my list of favourites, that's for sure...

I'm just gonna count down the months until season 8 starts now!! I'm so excited at first i thought that thing that they put Jack in would be a way of reversing the effects or summat but obviously, that would have been a very crammed last 15 minutes. I think that the cliffhanger was a good way to end it as it will keep people on the edge of their seat about what's gonna happen. It's certainly got me haning off the edge of mine!! Aaaargh...i just cannot wait for S8!!! Bring it on!!

Posted by: Kaileron Mar 10th 2004, 3:05 PM

I just thought about it... is it just me or is the way how those glowing squid like thingies of the Ancients some copy of that ghost army in ROTK?
They destroyed the enemies in the same way more or less: like a wave...

Posted by: Albion Mar 10th 2004, 3:14 PM

Posted by: DarkStorm Mar 10th 2004, 3:23 PM

AMAIZING !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: three fries shortofa happymeal Mar 10th 2004, 3:31 PM

[QUOTE]If i heard correctly, Jack says "Domada" at the end to Sam, but Daniel says that it was nothing. I have heard the rumours about the "I love you" and i believe this is it, although the phrasing is not I love you.



i thought that might be what he said because daniel didnt translate it
how sweet is that????

the end was completely rushed, although it was good i thought they could have spent a bit more on it.

well done president (still havent learnt his name ) for telling kinsey to shut up and that he accepts his resignation lol.
ive been waitin for someone to do that for ages

im sooooo glad it didnt end in a massive cliff hanger, because o'neill has to be sured, he cant just die like that, plus i think anubis will come back because i dont think i actualy saw him getting blown up, just his ship (correct me if im wrong)

bring on season 8!!!!

Posted by: jetsetter Mar 10th 2004, 3:34 PM

Man I loved this episode. It has one of the best battle scenes in the series. The Prometheus and the F-302s going up against the enemy was great. I give it ************************

Posted by: CrazyFeeny Mar 10th 2004, 3:37 PM

Posted by: ajtcc13 Mar 10th 2004, 3:39 PM

Great ep but OMG...........

Don't know where to start, its only an outpost..... great!! More seasons to find the lost city. Now maybe we can build an off world Stargate Command with defences!! Just by using one of the worlds listed and use the old outpost. Nice to see we got some gliders built, Kick A$$. Hammond incharge "I like". I agree about the president telling Anubis off that didn't work, but him telling the VP to shut up was good but I would of perfered to see an Airman walk in and put a few rounds into him!!! As for Jack OMG didn't see that coming.... I thought it was his time to be an Ascension being for awhile, but I guess thats the next stage
But I got one for you all now when Jack healed Bray did he take the pouch away too??? I give it a 9 1/2 out of 10 great season finish. Going to be hell trying keep up with 2 stargates this summer,

Most likely got more but I've been up for over 30hrs waiting so I need some sleep

Posted by: ASCENDED Mar 10th 2004, 3:58 PM

Posted by: Bonzai Mar 10th 2004, 4:19 PM

Wow Just WOW veryyyyy good Eps .. i give 10/10 what can i say

Posted by: Jack_O'Neill Mar 10th 2004, 4:25 PM

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 4:30 PM

I too was wondering if jack had healed bratacks pouch but i doubt that they actually did as i think the show didnt think of it. So i am going to assume they didnt heal it. And anubis disabled power to the sgc so he thought we wouldnt be able to close the iris so there was no need for the beam power.

Posted by: Major Gmed Mar 10th 2004, 4:37 PM

HOLY HANNAH!

What an episode, it had everything I could have hoped for:

Kinsey gets fired.
Hammond gets a great end to a great command.
A damn good battle scene.
Anubis gets his ass kicked.
Sam gets command.
And the team save Earth again.

I must admit I was left wanting more, really didn't want it to end the way it did. I'm desperate to see Season 8 now, hopefully it will live up to the standard set in this episode.

Posted by: isis_sg1 Mar 10th 2004, 5:07 PM

ok, so what i've read from all the posts on this topic, everyone seemed to love this episode, well so did i !!! the one bit i especially liked was the fact that for the first time Jack managed to save the world all on his own !!! but i screamed at the end, how could they leave it as a cliffhanger !!!, i can't wait till next season !!!

Posted by: Trekkie Mar 10th 2004, 5:11 PM

Hi!

I'm normally only reading in forums, but in this case I have to say: "WOW what a great episode" . Almost everything was perfect and well balanced. I found that the ancient weapon was OVERWHELMING and still typical "ancient", what do u guys think?

Can't await to see S8 and Stargate: Atlantis. But according to http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s8/8x1.shtml, the rescue of O'Neil isn't going to be a big deal, hope I'm wrong.

regards,
Trekkie

Posted by: louspiel Mar 10th 2004, 5:29 PM

Posted by: Albion Mar 10th 2004, 5:33 PM

Well, not wishing to post spoilers for S8 in this thread, but all I'll say is that since seeing LC II I'm now highly doubtful that Lockdown will be the first episode of the season. It simply doesn't cover the ground necessary to tie up all the loose ends in LC II. So my money is on it being the second episode of S8 at least.

Or...as some have suggested elsewhere, the conclusion to LCII, tying up all the loose ends, will be covered in the premiere of Atlantis. This actually makes some sense - especially when noting that LCII didn't include 'to be continued'. Which tends to lend credence to the theory.

I'll admit that if they go the Atlantis route I'll be highly ticked off - I don't want to be forced to watch Atlantis just to find out what happened next in Stargate. Even though I'll probably watch Atlantis, it irks me that I have to.

But these days that kind of trick is pulled to promote a new show and hook fans of the original show it was an offshoot of all the time, so it's probably likely that's what will happen.

Whichever route is taken, I don't think they can get away with not detailing what happens after LCII, especially with regard to Jack. A few lines of fill in dialogue (Daniel: Oh, hey, Jack, you're looking good and you've been back from that bout of stasis in the Antartic for...how long?) just ain't gonna cut it for the fans. And I'm sure they're aware of that.


Albion

Posted by: d33p-fr13d Mar 10th 2004, 5:37 PM

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 5:46 PM

Theses a lot of issuaes that need top be addressed apart from the jack thing, will the world find out about the stargate as someones bound to notice the ships. Will the system lords do anything now that they know what we can do or will they hide, and the situation at the sgc, is there more of the weapon in the antarctica or did we use our only supply? All of these need answer so i think they will have a bigish opener.

Posted by: ramuund Mar 10th 2004, 5:59 PM

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 6:15 PM

No RDA said he would be in the pilot in an interview, i doubt hell lie about something like that. It makes no sence them not putting them in it after saying they would, then people will just complain at the time.

Posted by: SupremeCommanderThor Mar 10th 2004, 6:52 PM

Man, I just got my d/l'ed copy of the episode and after watching it I had to check my watch to make sure 40 minutes had actually gone by. It felt so fast... ya know? It felt like right after it started, it ended. I guess that happens when you have to jam a lot into one episode, but man I was confused when I realized I was watching the last scene.

On the whole though, good episode. Kinsey got what was coming to him... as did Anubis. The moments with Jack & Sam and Jack & Teal'c on the scout ship were great. No words needed to be said, we all knew what they were going to be, as did Jack, Teal'c and Sam. Good shipper moments for J&S too... makes me happy...

I wish the ship to ship battles could have been bigger and longer, but I understand that was not the point of the episode and would have cost a ton of money more, and it really wasn't necessary in the grand scheme of things. What shots they did include were plain AWESOME, especially that first moment when the X-302's and Anubis' ships collided to start the battle.

My only complaint is that I have to wait until summer to see all the lose ends tied up. Hopefully they WON'T "fix" Jack in the first episode of Atlantis. Maybe the first episode of Atlantis can air immediately after the first ep of SG1 season 8... so they can fix the situation with Jack and find the new gate in SG1 and then we can see the formation of the new team and new show on Atlantis. That would really be ideal.

Posted by: MIKE.T Mar 10th 2004, 6:54 PM

Well what an episode, i too normally only read these sites, but after that i just had to write something!! It is in the running for the best ever episode.
It just kept you gripped from beginning to end.
10/10.

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 7:03 PM

Posted by: MIKE.T Mar 10th 2004, 7:12 PM

Although a lot of people have mentioned the lack of fighting in the episode, what keeped me on the edge of my seat ,was were we going to see the ancients, or their city. Plus there was all the emotional stuff with jack ( not complaining!) and the gang!
Also i thought that the weapon was cool, everybody was expecting a cannon or a massive gun.

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 10th 2004, 7:25 PM

I thought the way they did the weapon was excelent it was different from anything weve seen before and it was brill, totally original, and was really good.

Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Mar 10th 2004, 7:29 PM

The ball has been offically dropped, I have never seen a more hyped up ep in my entire life. I am severly dissappointed!!! Season seven has sucked so bad and now they end it with this? I have bit my tongue and was optimistic about heros and the lost city they both turned out to be massive falures.

Posted by: Amaunet Mar 10th 2004, 9:06 PM

Posted by: Sam's Sister Mar 10th 2004, 9:14 PM

Wow! Now THAT was the Stargate I remember! Majikthize has pretty much said everything I think about this episode, so I will refrain from my usual essay.

However, no one will be surprised that I loved all the "ship" in this episode -- and none was more touching than Jack's communication with Teal'c. So much said without a word. Brothers, comrades, friends. Jack and Sam left it unspoken, too (I had a suspicion that Sam was intending to tell Jack how she felt back at his house, but was interrupted). As always, they have continued the UST into the next season. And rightly so, fellow shippers -- remember, we have a whole 8th season to resolve all that, if that is what they intend to do. All in good time. Savor the journey...

By the way, the homage to SW, if that's what it was, was fine, IMO (I love SW). But remember, SG-1 established a precedent for frozen ancients last season, so a cryogenic chamber for Jack isn't just copycatting the Han Solo ending. If you want to make the comparison, Sam does actually attempt to tell Jack how she feels (back in the scene where he is zatting the crystals on the ship) and he answers exactly as Han Solo did: "I know." Just a little less cocky about it, though. Fuel for thought?

But Jack didn't have a moment with Daniel...forshadow? Not really goodbye, just see ya later?

Posted by: Col Squirts Mar 10th 2004, 9:38 PM

One word to sum up this episode


WOW


this episode has simply got to be the BEST ever, the way Prometheus and the F-302s and the Al'kesh and Death Gliders merged above the Scout ship into an immense air battle, brought tears to my eyes, not even word could describe it.

Posted by: PAL Mar 10th 2004, 11:44 PM

Hayes said to inform Canada about the invasion. When did they tell Canada about the stargate, or anything? I know Britain, France, China, and Russia were informed, but not Canada. I'm thinking its the drop-in line to make a Canadian SG memeber in SG:Atlantis make more sense.

Great episode though! I can't wait till S8 of SG1 and S1 of SG:A.

Posted by: Kromando33 Mar 11th 2004, 1:43 AM

man this was THE BEST 41 MINS OF T.V TIME EVER!!!!!!
damn i loved the fleet of 302's & the 303 going head on into a fleet of gliders & alkeish, the ancient weapon looked like that gya thing on the final fantasy CG movie, but we know for sure that the repository wan't meant for the ancient's knowledge to live on but for their entire race to live on, the device odviously transforms the subject into an ancient, ti's also good to see that the sgc weapons are equipt with the energy thing which kills anubis' drones, special effects were the best ever for sure.

Posted by: SlavsyaRossiya Mar 11th 2004, 1:43 AM

Great moments in this episode:

DANIEL: Sphere, planet, label, name!
JACK: Following, still, you, not!

SAM: The clue for seven down is celestial body and he wrote "Uma Thurman" (LOL!)

WEIR: Well have you got everything you need? I think theres still a sink in the kitchen.
JACK: Is that a joke?
WEIR: Perhaps....a bad one.
JACK: Yes, very bad. But I sense hope for you.

SAM: Sir at your house before Daniel and Teal'c showed up...What I was going to say was....
JACK: I know :love: (That was so sweet!!!!)

SAM: Sit down and take a look!
*Jack doesn't
SAM: ....That's an order.

ANUBIS: I am Anubis.
HAYES: You've got to be kidding!
ANUBIS: You are the leader of this world?
HAYES: Henry Hayes, President of the United States of America - One nation among many.
ANUBIS: No more. Bow before your god!
HAYES: I don't think so! However I am willing to discuss your surrender.
ANUBIS: If you posess weapons matching mine, you would have used them.
HAYES: Don't let the suit fool you fella, we're gonna fight.
ANUBIS: You bring destruction upon yourselves.
HAYES: Never going to happen!
*Anubis disappears*
HAYES: Too much?

KINSEY: Mr. President, that is downright insane! I am relieving docto Weir and taking...
WEIR: Sir, from what I've looked at....
HAYES: Will you shut the hell up?!
WEIR: I'm sorry sir.
HAYES: Not you doctor!
KINSEY: Excuse me?!
HAYES: Consider your resignation accepted, Bob.
KINSEY: You can't do that!!!
HAYES: Oh please. I got enough on you to have you shot!
KINSEY: This is the biggest mistake you will EVER make!
HAYES: But I think I'll stick with my original thought, which is shut the hell up. (LOL!!!!!)

ANUBIS: You are too late. The power of ancients is mine!
*Jack puts his hand through the Anubis hologram, and it begins to disappear*
ANUBIS: Fools!

And perhaps the best of all...

JAFFA: Our shields are useless!
ANUBIS!: Noo!!!!!!!
*Anubis' ship explodes and he dies. Yay!!!!*

Oh, and can anybody ever forget the major shippiness at the end? Its so sad.
Again, this episode is great! I agree with mith: One of the best moments in TV!

Posted by: mithwriter Mar 11th 2004, 1:43 AM

I have just seen one of the finest hours of television ever broadcast.

I'm going to go now, and leave you people to debate the details.

I have nothing more to say.

Posted by: Cuokuo Mar 11th 2004, 6:32 AM

Just to add to the already long list of "WOWS"....WOW!!
That certainly was a good episode and also quite a sad one since jack is gone.
I dunno how i;m gonna cope with stargate atlantis with all the new characters. nevertheless...I cant wait to see wat stargate atlantis will be like. if this episode is anything to go by, i'm sure it will be just as good.

ps
now that earth is invincible, wat are they gonna do with themselves?

Posted by: ChewManFuu Mar 11th 2004, 8:46 AM

Excellent Season ender. Good little cliff hanger there with Jack in statis.

I really enjoyed this ep. Great battles and good plot execution.
All those 302s were a real suprise. I didn't know we had a fleet of those guys. Sucks to be anyone we get in fight with on earth. LOL

I have to watch this again so that I can talk more about it.

Posted by: Albion Mar 11th 2004, 10:15 AM

Posted by: Ronin Phoenix Mar 11th 2004, 11:23 AM

Hey, does anybody know why Bra'tacs Hatac(sp) vessel did not get blown up by those energy things? i get why the prometheus wasnt blown up(different technology), but that hatac vessel should have been blow out of the sky too......i really hope that isnt a flaw in the script.....somebody gimme a reason not to believe its a flaw in the scripts.

Posted by: stargatesweetie Mar 11th 2004, 11:47 AM

A great episode and a fantastic way to finish the season. After what was, in my humble opinion, a very mediocre start to the season, SG has come back and finished with a bang. I might even be tempted to say that this 2-parter rivals WoO for best "episode" ever.
It had everything in my opinion and was very reminiscent of earlier seasons. Roll on season 8 and keep up the good work. That said, if season 8 maintains the high standards, what will I do when the series actually finishes

Posted by: VectorDP Mar 11th 2004, 11:52 AM

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Posted by: Superfreak Mar 11th 2004, 3:25 PM

I find it almost hilarious, how when ever Jack gets zapped with an Ancient Repository... it instantly turns him into Mcgiver again.

Posted by: Capt.Rey Mar 11th 2004, 5:08 PM

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Posted by: Majikthize Mar 11th 2004, 6:27 PM

Posted by: executor04 Mar 11th 2004, 8:41 PM

With what SlavsyaRossiya said about some of the funny text in the show, yeah all that great.


My personal favorite dialog was
Bra'tac: You are correct, Alkesh and Gliders appraoch, many.
Bra'tac: They will be in firing range in 30 seconds
Bra'tac: More Ships approaching from the opposite direction.
Sam : Sir, Were about to get our asses..
Bra'tac : They are not Goa'uld


Enter the 302s ect, music ect, great huh?

Completely off topic, i wouldn't mind being a tok'ra

Posted by: executor04 Mar 11th 2004, 8:58 PM

Oh yeah, just to confirm, I counted 22 302's, thats correct right?

Posted by: Ares Mar 11th 2004, 9:34 PM

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Posted by: seymour Mar 12th 2004, 1:46 AM

Loved both Lost City 1 & 2.......What a difference it makes to have both RDA and Brad Wright both back at work on SG-1 (and at the same time!). Clearly, they have been the missing ingredients in the rest of Season 7 since Lost City 1 and 2 really clicked (and to think we used to get this stuff on a regular basis!). As usual RDA brought out the best in all the others and what a moment with Teal'c in LC-2, quite the most moving scene in a long time.

Loved the Princess Leia/Han Solo homage....O'Neill was in fine form not letting anyone tell him how they feel about him (with an "I know" before they could really get started) while he concentrated on more important matters such as the legacy of his Simpsons tapes.

While the introduction of Dr. Weir was an very interesting twist, she seemed somehow too small for the pivotal part she was palying...I guess I mean she had too little screen presence for me and not a good "fit", I certainly couln't imagine her negoiating the major treaties of our time. Loved her line about the US and not allowing it to take Mainfest Destiny out into space...... perfect reasoning for more oversight at the SCG.

Did anyone else think that Kinsey seemed to be in a state of panic or urgency from the beginning of LC-1? Almost as if he had to satisfy some hidden masters within a set period of time.

Posted by: cjp_24 Mar 12th 2004, 3:11 AM

Posted by: Lord_Yu Mar 12th 2004, 3:13 AM

Some thoughts...

It seams the only reason SG1 visited Proclaousteonas (however you spell it) was to get the power source. Somehow O'Neill knew the one on earth was depleted.

The colonel became very weak after healing Bra'tac. Ayiana, the women in Frozen(7x04) also had that problem but she was infected by a virus and Jack's brain was almost overloaded by the the knowledge of the Ancients. I guess they have to be in top shape before using their power.

The Lost City is not located on earth. But there are certainly more things in Antarctica because they didn't find that building near the 2nd gate when they fond Ayiana.

I don't know if Anubis can ascend again. I guess he can't count on the help of the Others like Orlin in Ascension(5x03) but I supose they didn't help him much the first time either.

I won't miss the boring villain speeches of Anubis but I hope we can learn where he came from.

I don't know if the ancient's language is still spoken in the Pegasus galaxy. But if some people happen to name planets by their gate addresses. That would make things easier for the Atlantis team.

Posted by: cjp_24 Mar 12th 2004, 3:17 AM

Season 7, Episode 2. Homecoming.... When Anubus attacked Kelowna he lowered his ship in the atmosphere above the city. I think Anubus should of done that in The Lost City. And to make it more interesting above the whitehouse.

Yay!

Cliff

Posted by: Lord_Yu Mar 12th 2004, 3:20 AM

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Posted by: Raxor Mar 12th 2004, 3:29 AM

so what movie series are the writers going to ripp off next season?

Posted by: eliminator Mar 12th 2004, 3:40 AM

Posted by: Lord_Yu Mar 12th 2004, 4:25 AM

When are they going to kill Bra'tac? In Threshold(5x02) it looked like he reached the end of his life. But they gived him Tretonin and now Jack save him again.

Posted by: Narim Mar 12th 2004, 4:27 AM

AWESOME episode, no doubt about it!
My fav quote:
DJ: Sphere - planet, label - name.
JO: Following you - still not!

The Prometheus took quite a beating - and consider that it was in the atmosphere where the sheilds are less powerfull (at least that was the case with Anubis's ex mothership). Though "little" ship.
Like it was said here... I can't wait to see the other's goa'uld reactions. As they have enough problems already (I think the Tok'ra will release the bio weapon and wipe most of them out). Speaking about the Tok'ra... I bet they fill pretty silly waging this war against the goa'uld for so long and in the end playing a relative small role in their defeat. I really don't think that is much left of the goa'uld after Anubis's attacks. I hope that season 8 will be more into scientific discoveries and I want to see MORE asgard! I've had it with "the asgard are not responding". Come on, we saved them from the replicators, the goa'uld are no longer a major thread for the protected planets treaty... what can they possibly be doing?
Oh... and one more thing - I really hope that we'll see some tollan survivors - and one of them Narim.

Can't wait for season 8 and Atlantis!

Posted by: cjp_24 Mar 12th 2004, 4:58 AM

Posted by: Lord_Yu Mar 12th 2004, 5:18 AM

On each gate, there's an unique symbol used to represent the point of origin. O'Neill reconized the earth symbol but he can't possibly know all of them.

Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 12th 2004, 6:27 AM

Posted by: Count Mar 12th 2004, 7:46 AM

well i for one wanna see something happen around the furlings, perhaps the ancients technology being activated made some furlings think the ancients were alive, come out of the hidyholes they're in, and investigate, at the same time, restoring jack to normal.

also, the Asgard said in the episode when they were upgrading the shields and hyperdrive, they didnt say anything about weapons. And the half-bald man said that they were out of ammunition about halfway to anubis ship. Plus the Promethus was only firing anti-air canon shells into the fray, no asgard tech.

Posted by: three fries shortofa happymeal Mar 12th 2004, 3:23 PM

i loved this episode from start to finish,

ive just watched it again and i realised that daniel had a p90 (or whatever gun they use)which is really cool coz i think he looks quite funny with one, but also hunky at the same time lol

i didnt notice the first time coz i was too engrossed in everythin else!

Posted by: Bec Mar 12th 2004, 3:32 PM

I loved this episode!

I was on the edge of my seat, quite litterally, gasping at every gaspable moment, which was possibly every five seconds.

I'm so glad I taped it....I've seen it about 7 times since Tuesday, and it still makes me cry.
I really want to see how they get Jack back.

~Bec

Posted by: Goauld AnUbIs Mar 12th 2004, 4:56 PM

Posted by: Albion Mar 12th 2004, 5:06 PM

Yes, Jack was mentally directing the energy weapon so it only blew up enemy ships.

I've been watching both parts of this again today - first time I've watched it back to back. And think I have to revise my earlier posts. The ending didn't seem at all rushed to me this time around and I think I prefer the simple goodbye to a more protracted farewell scene. I really enjoyed it as it was today. I was able to concentrate more on the faces of Sam, Daniel and Teal'c and their expressions really said all that needed to be said when Jack was frozen in the chamber.

Albion

Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Mar 12th 2004, 5:07 PM

Isnt anyone else upset that we got nothing that we were promised? Let me tell you all what Atlantis is about... The entire serise is going to be StarGate teams LOOKING for atlantis but always coming up short. Jack will retain the knowledge of the ancients but will somehow not know where atlantis is because the repository he stuck his head in was made before the location of atlantis was decieded. If i'm wrong i'll eat my words but the writers are desperatly trying to keep everyone interested and this needs to be done to make more storylines.

I will absolutly continue watching but i'm not going to plan my life aroud it like I have been! I'll plan my life around the Power Rangers now since they brought the Dinos back.

Posted by: Major dreamer Mar 12th 2004, 6:07 PM

I only got to see 'lost city part 2' tonight, because i missed it on monday!
It was totally amazing, i loved the bit with the crossword, and then
when jack takes the patch off daniels arm, i thought that was totally random!
It was a brilliant end to the series, i don't know what i'm going to do until
series 8!

Posted by: splashd Mar 12th 2004, 11:40 PM

One very cool part not discussed in this thread--The REAL AF Chief of Staff was in this episode: John Jumper. He actually dd a pretty good job with his lines. Kind of cool to have the real deal ordering the Prometheus and 302's up to take care of business.
You gotta winder what the USAF thinks of SG-1

Posted by: mysunroofworks Mar 13th 2004, 1:32 AM

HOLY CRAP that was awesome!!! After watching Lost City Pt1 this evening I had to download Pt. 2 (I live in the states, we just got pt 1.) which means I get to see the whole thing over again next week! Damn that was a great episode!! So where does it go from here!??!?!?!


AAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! can't wait for next season!!!!

Posted by: EBN Mar 13th 2004, 6:07 AM

[QUOTE]Hamond: "Mr. President, i'm confirming that the enemy has been defeated, the threat is eliminated."
President: "Congratulations George, I don't know how we're ever going to be able to thank you."[QUOTE]



Vice-President Hammond?

Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 13th 2004, 6:49 AM

Posted by: RawDeal Mar 13th 2004, 8:24 AM

I must admit that I was just a bit dissapointed, dont get me wrong Stargate is still my favourite TV show, but I was expecting a bit more (like a 2 hour finale) out of the Battle against Anubis not some little matrix stile efects and a small bing-bang-thank-thank-you -anubis stile of battle. I cant wait to see season 8 and see what's going to happen to Jack-popsicle

Posted by: pawsod_uk Mar 13th 2004, 9:56 AM

President: "Congratulations George, I don't know how we're ever going to be able to thank you."[QUOTE]

returne to the SGC

Posted by: prometheus Mar 13th 2004, 3:45 PM

omg the end is sooooo depressing but other than that i liked it very much

Posted by: SG1nut Mar 13th 2004, 5:27 PM

I was kinda depressed as well on seeing the end. Had Stargate SG1 just ended like that- I would have been livid! But thankfully there's a Season 8 coming up soon and as long as they show HOW they made Jack...well, Jack again- then I'll be dandy!

Posted by: Sam's Sister Mar 13th 2004, 5:55 PM

Posted by: OutOfAbydos Mar 13th 2004, 5:56 PM

these episodes were so great!!! they really went above and beyond on this one.... total redemption from the slight falloff the last few seasons have had... which is common of any show with this many episodes.... O'neill Forever!!!!!

Posted by: ashrak Mar 13th 2004, 6:54 PM

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Posted by: Cork2 Mar 13th 2004, 7:49 PM

I loved this episode. Were the hell were there allies. If i remember they still owed a great deal to the humans for saving their asses and stuff, unless they already repaid it.

Well i doubt anubis is dead. Other wise there wouldn't be a season 8. He is half Ancient after all. I hope he is dead thought.

Posted by: Ferris Mar 13th 2004, 10:09 PM

I just finished watching it. I can't stop crying! The ending is so sad. That intense look on Daniel's face at the end is great though. The whole danfed episode is great! Except for a lot of parts where I was like "hmmm....Star Wars....", i'd give the script an A+, and the special effects were pretty awesome, if a little fakey. If they don't bring O'Neill back pretty darn quick I'm going to go crazy.


~~FERRIS~~

Posted by: kitsune Mar 14th 2004, 1:29 AM

Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Mar 14th 2004, 11:10 AM

Woooohoooo!! Sorry i had to get that out. I was on here like 10 mins after it had finished and the topic wasn't even opened and i havn't had the chance to get on till now so i venting all my frustration!!

Best episode ever, my mam was in i was screaming and my dad was ranting on about the 6month wait!! Brilliant battle scenes and great character moments which means i now forgive them for Revisions which i thought was the worst episode this season!!
he he he bring on series 8 its only like what half a year away!!

Posted by: lois Mar 14th 2004, 11:32 AM

Posted by: stoo Mar 14th 2004, 2:51 PM

Great episode, just watched it again and still didnt dissapoint. Little bits of homage to other things, i really wanted carter to shout Jack i love you, but we only have 3 days left to save the earth. Braytac with his tricked you evil dude, no snake in my belly, Jack, Mcguyvering the rings together and makeing the ship go faster with the zat. and the super soldiers looked like the Guyver, Jack being frozen. All in all a great seaon finale - cant wait for the new season and atlantis

Posted by: Majikthize Mar 14th 2004, 7:23 PM

Posted by: mithwriter Mar 15th 2004, 1:42 AM

Posted by: samandjack2003 Mar 15th 2004, 10:52 AM

My favorite part was at the end between Sam and Jack, when Sam put her hand on the glass for Jack to see. That was really emotional for me the relationship between the two of them will develop in Season 8.

Posted by: SMOKEDRICE Mar 15th 2004, 1:57 PM

MY FAVORITE PART WAS THE ENTIRE EPISODE, AND I CANT WAIT TILL NEXT SEASON!
ONLY 7 MONTHS LEFT!

Posted by: invisible painting Mar 15th 2004, 2:03 PM

7....months....woo...hoo. It is a while you know. 7 months...!!! The whole episode wass pretty good i can tell ya.

Posted by: bex Mar 15th 2004, 2:08 PM

What an episode! The air battle was great, only problem was that it didnt last that long... only 7 months to go..

Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Mar 15th 2004, 4:45 PM

I've just thought right, at the end of the episode when Jack went into status he said something and Daniel said it was goodbye, from reading the spoilers he apparently said something else also, but to know this you had to read the spoilers!!
I know i may not make sense and i know not all spoilers are true but that had been circling for so long and it was on my mind so now i have got that out, i can continue to work out the hours till September!!

Posted by: S.K Mar 15th 2004, 9:08 PM

GOOD GOSH! Where to start?
No point in saying how great this ep was cos everyone has said it already
Oh Bo**ocks what the heck. FLIPPIN FANTASTIC!!!! (Mainly cos I convinced myself it would be crap so not to be dissapointed) and yes, there were many shrieks screams and shouts during the already mentioned scenes.

Firstly some questions and possibilities...
Is Anubis dead, or just disembodied?
He seems to be an entity that is enclosed in some kind of humanoid vessel that holds his life force. If we take the example of the children of fallen angels back in the times of Noah (who today would be alien human hybrids), they were part human/physical, part higher being/angel. Perhaps Anubis is somehow similar to this, kind of sitting between two states of being as he is/was physically human and Goa?uld. He then ascended but was forced back to some hybridised state (we don?t know if the host remained ascended or not). Now when those beings were killed they are said to become demons and have the ability to posses or inhabit our bodies. What if it's the same for Anubis? That was make things very interesting, especially if he were to somehow find his way to earth (like the alien spirit in the X-Files did) and possess one of the world leaders...possibly the Secretary General of the UN or even worse, Kinsey! I mean isn?t that what Goa?uld do, un-ascended or not.
Ok so it?s highly unlikely but definitely logical.

What/Who was the source of the knowledge of Anubis?s more advanced tech?

Why have the allies been so unreliable/unreachable of late according to Hammond?
To me, this seems like a sneak intro to something that could be going on ?out there? that may have a bearing on season8. Once things are settled at the SGC they will eventually get in contact with them and may find out why.
Cue the introduction of an ancient adversary?maybe?

Which Goa'uld will take advantage of the power vacuum?
There have got to be a few knocking about waiting for an opportunity.

With all that went on, will the gate program go public/out of the black?
I think the writers put in the communications blackout to leave this one open. The cover story of a meteor shower (or solar flair if they wanted), would hold (maybe, just maybe) given enough lies deception and media cooper?, I mean manipulation. Look at all the large groups of people that have reportedly seen U.F.O formations over cities like Mexico and the like and the average Joe still doesn?t give a cr*p about what?s going on ?out there?. So who cares if a few balls of light come from space and blow things up eh? Ah, ball lightening; there we go?air tight cover story. Failing that they could blame it on terrorists! : P

Really and truly it is about time the people Earth realised they are not alone (in the Stargate universe at least) and that they are indeed members of a pan galactic hoodle caboodle of civilisations. Some of them not so civil!


Our imaginations could run wild with all the possibilities for season 8 but unfortunately the funding probably couldn?t keep up. So hopefully s8 will be at least as good as 6 but definitely better than 7.

Posted by: Amaunet Mar 15th 2004, 10:23 PM

Posted by: Soxi Mar 16th 2004, 6:41 AM

That was the best ever episode (yeah, I know soooooo many other peeps have said that but it was!!)!!!! But I can't belive I have to wait like, 7 WHOLE MONTHS. What is this, torture of the most evilest kind?? I'd have liked it to have been made into a movie though, 'cos I could have taken my mates and 'converted' them (for some reason, over here its hard to find a big fan over here *sigh*). Very good spesh effects though.

Posted by: Nat Mar 16th 2004, 10:44 AM

Wow this episode was most definate a 10/10. I loved it kept me intrested all the way through. Loved the shipper moment that look the Jack gave Sam arrrggg so sweet!!! Cannot wait until season 8..
Nat

Posted by: ---Qetesh--- Mar 16th 2004, 11:32 AM

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Posted by: ArtemisNightshade Mar 17th 2004, 5:55 AM

It was amazing. there isn't much left to add to everyones replies. It was a top notch episode. Great job you guys, you done well!

~Artemis~

Posted by: zander Mar 17th 2004, 12:07 PM

OK newbie to this forum just thought i would say hi to you all.
Watched the last episode and felt a little let down. Correct me if I am wrong but didnt Sam say" is this Atlantis?" to which Dan the man said "no".....how do we get to Atlantis with the new spin off?
Is Jack gone for good? If Anubis is half Go-uld and half one of the "ancients" how can he be killed?
Where were the damn asgard when we needed them eh eh

Posted by: SG-15 Mar 17th 2004, 12:46 PM

Oh man. I couldn't wait to see this episode so I downloaded it, and watched it God knows how many times. very cool with the idea of the name being the address. And a little S/J. But where was the Asgard. Aren't we one of the protected planets. Oh well.

10/10

Posted by: mithwriter Mar 17th 2004, 1:51 PM

Posted by: ChewManFuu Mar 17th 2004, 5:01 PM

Some how I knew that there would be furious speculation on this thread.

Enjoy the show.

Posted by: Nessus Mar 18th 2004, 12:07 PM

As a citizen of the US of A, I can honestly say:

We only have to wait three and half months!! Nya-Nya...

Posted by: SG1nut Mar 18th 2004, 1:09 PM

Posted by: three fries shortofa happymeal Mar 18th 2004, 2:31 PM

we definatley got the better end of the deal, we dont have it slit in two
so we see the end before all the USA lot, well of course unless they download stuff

but haha anyway

Posted by: JollyRoger Mar 19th 2004, 1:08 AM

Wow. Amazing Episode. I mostly agree with what everyone's been saying.. Great acting, Great Battle Scenes, a little rushed at the end, should have been a 2 hour ep.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned... I really liked it how Dr. Weir saved the SGC by manually closing the iris just before Anubis sent a nuke through... good call there...

Also, the human gliders are X-302's not F-302's :-)

Posted by: gadireis Mar 19th 2004, 6:14 AM

so what will happen to O'neill?

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Posted by: Borg Duck Mar 19th 2004, 7:50 PM

I've just read a little bit of this thread (dont mind getting spoiled..well..not too much) & I must admit I cant wait to see this tonight!

They obviously want to give us thefans what we want!

Posted by: KaptainKeg Mar 19th 2004, 11:11 PM

wow, that was great. I'm even watching it again. Is it not great that the team will stay on but jack is in stasis. He is pulling a danial from season six. I can not wait for Atlantis!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Allex87 Mar 19th 2004, 11:52 PM

Season Six - Episode Frozen.

The woman frozen under ice sounds as she was an Ancient. She had healing powers and seeing the whole frozen O'neill thing just rang a bell...

Jack got frozen there because if not he would have died. I think that in the season 6 episode the woman was an ancient and that Atlantis was VERY close to the location where they found her.

Can't wait for Atlantis series

Posted by: Nessus Mar 20th 2004, 12:21 AM

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Posted by: DoctorMajorSam Mar 20th 2004, 12:44 AM

OK i watched this episode I there were so many people almost dying that I was close to crying. First Bray'tac, then Gen. hammond when they are fighting Anubis, and then Jack at the end. It was definately back to the old Stargate that I love! It is the BEST!!! Any way I loved the shippy moments too. And Sam finally called Jack, Jack! I was sooooo happy.

Jak

Posted by: TDax Mar 20th 2004, 1:02 AM

Ok, I give it a 7.5 out of 10. I felt a lot of it was rushed. I think that the second part should have been at least an hour and a half long, that way they could have put in some more pertinent stuff, as to where are the other allies and what has been going on that has kept them busy. In addition, the original Captain of the Prometheus was there he gave up the Captains chair to Hammond when Hammond stepped on to the bridge. I still think that Atlantis will have a lot to do with Jacks cure. If you look at the commercials, it sure looks that the Atlantis gate has a lot more chevrons then the original gate. Loved seeing Kinsey put in his place, however this still means he is out there ready to stir up trouble. I am glad the Prez and Hammond go back, so the Prez knows he can trust Hammond. I am hoping that Hammond will be reinstated as the commander of the SGC and the new Doc will be put in charge of the Atlantis Project. I agree with those that said Anubis would have went in shooting as the other system lords have done on other planets, shoot first, destroy major cities and then proclaim yourself God. I also do not think the leader of the free world would have been cowering in fear when Anubis appeared in the oval office as others have said. If he was an old friend of Hammond's as they stated and again as they stated they were both officers together, I would hazard to say it would take a lot to scare a sitting President, plus he has read all the SG files on off world missions, so he would have some sort of a clue of what to expect. I also read a few posts on how unattractive the Prometheus is, well in space with no gravity a square would travel just as fast as a sleekly shaped ship as long as their speeds were equal.

Who knows since next seasons spoilers, show jack as a two star, maybe he could take over the SGC, Sam remain in charge of SG-1, an Hammond Commander of the Prometheus.

I enjoyed the episode tonight, but by just adding a little more time. I do think it could have been done a ?little? better, it sure could have been done a ?lot worse?.

Anyway that?s my .02 cents, Rick

Posted by: mungo Mar 20th 2004, 1:10 AM

This was the best episode of the season. That isn't saying much since this was a very poor season. If I wanted to see political stories I would watch CNN, not SciFi.

I hope they hire new writers & fire Peter Deluise.

Posted by: Hathor Mar 20th 2004, 1:48 AM

eeeeeeeee

absolutely loved this ep. full marks. i was literally jumping up and down in excitement while watching it. it was great. seeing some ancient stuff. there was some sorta atlantis thing goig on on earth under antarctica, as i thought. i am still extremely excited. but i have ot wait months. damn cliffhanger. what'll happen to jack?

just a couple comments: the lowing up of anubis was a slightly too quick anticlimactic moment it seemed. and the glowy things coming from the ground seemed rather like the squiddy things in matrix revolutions.

it was fantastically wonderfully excitingly wonderful hopefully atlantis will be half this good and it'll be good. and hopefully season 8 will go out with a bang like this one.

Posted by: Indy Mar 20th 2004, 2:04 AM

Hi, I just registered for this site, and I'm new. I just have to say that I just finished watching Lost City, Part II, and loved it! I loved Hayes letting both Anubis and Lindsay have it, LOL! Of course, we all know that Lindsay will probably be back. I mean you have to have an irritating bad guy, right? I cannot believe that Anubis was taken out that easily.

I'm so upset about Jack though. They better find a solution. Shades of The Empire Strikes Back! Why didn't we get that kiss?

I'm addicted to SG and I think the dynamics of everyone is what makes this show so awesome.

Posted by: Borg Duck Mar 20th 2004, 2:27 AM

.....Well I've learned a valuable lesson tonight, dont read spoilers before viewing an episode, theres the problem of ruining the suprise for everyone but also as a result I read this thread before hand & expected more than what was actually given. My mistake was in thinking that the whole episode would be one glorious, major, intergalactic battle with Earth in the frontline it was a little like that but not by much. If I had not read the spoilers maybe I would have been as thrilled as the rest of you guys but as it went it was a great episode.

Like someone above said it could have been done better but it sure wasnt worse

8 out of 10

Posted by: Spence Mar 20th 2004, 3:23 AM

I'll prove blackholemalpII right and be a sheep here by saying that I also give this episode a 10/10. I slightly preferred Lost City I, however, because I loved seeing all of SG1 and General Hammond hang out at Jack's house bantering back and forth.

With 9 pages worth of posts, just about everything I've had to say has been said, except for one. I was really surprised that Kinsey wanted to go to the Beta site (or is it called the Alpha site in this Universe?). I loved to hate him because he was such an ass, but it seems that I gave him too much credit. I thought he was a cocky, confident ass who thought he was invincible. I didn't expect him to be cowardly. Dr. Weir said to him exactly what I was thinking.

Posted by: roxics Mar 20th 2004, 3:24 AM

This was a great episode. Watched it twice. I personally liked how easily Anubis was defeated. Goes to show how advanced the Ancients were.

Cheesiest quote:
Hammond
"That was SG1!"

Jack isn't dead folks as he said "sleep". That isn't a spoiler that was mentioned in the show.

My big question is "What is left for SG1?"

This show could have easily been the end of SG1 and the start of Atlantis.

Atlantis Spoiler Below. Highlight to read


We know the main SG1 crew will be featured in the pilot for Atlantis. My guess is they will find the lost city in the first half hour of that episode and the rest will be about setting up the new team and discovering the new enemy/threat.

Actually more likely since SG1 aires a week before Atlantis starts they will probably use the first SG1 episode to find the city and spend the whole Atlantis pilot setting up the new team, unthawing Jack and discovering the new threat.

Once the torch is passed off to the new team what is SG1 to do? Go back and fight more Go'uld? Seems kind of repetitive. Plus I'm getting sick of the Go'uld. Hopefully with Anubis gone the other system lords will back off or get destroyed. It's time for a new enemy anyway. I can't see SG1 going through another 20 episodes of the same old thing with Atlantis breaking new ground every week right next to it. As much as I love SG1 those are my thoughts.


Anyway it was a great episode and it will be fun to see where things go from here. Even if it is another 3.5 months away

Posted by: Jolinarr Mar 20th 2004, 8:55 AM

Posted by: DoctorMajorSam Mar 20th 2004, 11:36 AM

I give this episode a 10/10. Even though I didnt want Jack to be frozen and I wanted Jack and Sam to atleast HUG!!!!! It was good. I loved it! Back to Old School Stargate!!!

Jak

Posted by: Indy Mar 20th 2004, 12:20 PM

I just wanted to add that what made this show so special was that everyone was involved. I loved having Hammond on the Promethyus, and yes, the chevron guy, LOL! I liked having Bra'tac there with them since he has been on almost from the very beginning. Yes, like everyone said, it was quite obvious that the Jaffa was a spy.

I think adding William Devane as the president was a stroke of genius. He is a fantastic actor, and I loved that he let Kinsey have it. I know he'll be back next season, if only because you need to have a jerk that you can get upset at.

I so wanted at least a hug, if not a kiss between Jack and Sam. All the scenes between Jack and Sam and Teal'c and Daniel were great. I think the downloading of the ancients' knowledge definitely made Jack smarter, but this time he seemed to understand most of what was happening.

I don't care what they have SG-1 do next season, I just want them back. I want Hammond in charge and the dynamic four off and running!

SG-1 begins in July, at least for us in the US! That was a commercial that aired after the show.

Posted by: MYOB Mar 20th 2004, 1:56 PM

According to the Sci-Fi channel website, Stargate Season 8 will start July 9th with Atlantis starting the following week July 16th.

The series Adromeda will move over to the Sci-Fi channel as well since it's in one of it's later seasons and is considered a relative fan favorite. Between now and July, Adromeda will get it's chance to see how ratings go when it starts next week

From the Sci-FI website, Robert Picardo is being asked to return next season so you know he'll probably be in involved with a Kinsey episode.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2004-03/19/13.30.sfc

My suspicions are that Kinsey will find out it was Woosley who sold him out to the President, but that might only be part of the plotline.


MYOB'
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Posted by: datag Mar 20th 2004, 1:58 PM

I loved this ep but and the those little gold things really kick ass but it was really really sad when Jack had to go into status. Why didn't they just go to the Asgard and ask them to take the stuff out of Jacks head when they were done and how do they get him out of that ice block anyway I mean they can't exactly thaw him out! why did Jack have to go into status!!!

Posted by: That Chevron Guy Mar 20th 2004, 2:14 PM

Posted by: linda_lol Mar 20th 2004, 3:28 PM

R U GUYZ CRAZY!?! i give this *****! 5 stars! i cried last night! geez! it was so freakin sad! poor Jack! and Sam! oh! they r luv birds! and they're were TONZ of action! Jack dead by the way or is he just sleeping *frozen*?

Posted by: scjon Mar 20th 2004, 4:51 PM

[QUOTE=Majikthize,Mar 11 2004, 06:27 PM][QUOTE=Sam's Sister,Mar 11 2004, 02:14 AM]
BTW, to whoever said:
But William Shatner wasn't bald.

[/QUOTE]
No but Patrick Stewart (Jean Luc Picard Star Trek TNG) is!

Posted by: dorien Mar 20th 2004, 6:34 PM

I am no sheep as evidenced by my opinions running contrary to the majority for many episodes this season. But I'm hanging with the flock on this one. I totally enjoyed both parts of this finale. (And could have watched it again in the time it took me to read nine pages of posts!) As all the good parts have been well covered, I just want to add...BAAAAAA!

Posted by: Jedidude Mar 20th 2004, 7:11 PM

The Lost City Part 2 was just ok. Don;t flame me just because I didn't think it was that good. The scene's between Sam and Jack were pretty stupid, but the space battle was BEASTLY!

Posted by: keppiezbt Mar 20th 2004, 8:01 PM

im new to this but i agree the episode was good but i think it coul have bene longer and lessed "rushed." but yeah whats with the ancient technology? how did it know to only go after the gould? wheres atlantis and the lost city?

Posted by: jfw Mar 20th 2004, 8:46 PM

I missed Lost City Part 2!!! Does anyone know if/when it will be broadcast again??

Posted by: Jedidude Mar 20th 2004, 9:11 PM

JFW: Believe me. The episode wasn't that good. The scenes between Jack and Sam were stupid but the only good thing you missed was the awesome space battles.

Posted by: thepainless Mar 20th 2004, 9:40 PM

Does anyone know what exactly happened when the power when out in the SGC during the scene when Kinsey was bitching out and wanted to leave Earth through the Gate?? Was that Anubis attempt to disrupt power for the Gate or what??

Posted by: Indy Mar 20th 2004, 10:51 PM

Dr. Weir said it was Anubis trying to dial in, and no one would be getting out. I liked that Dr. Weir called Kinsey the coward that he was, LOL! I don't know when it will be shown again, but I'm sure it will. the episode was an awesome one. I was disappointed in that we didn't get a kiss between Sam and Jack, but they had their moments, and that was enough for now.

Posted by: Hawkman Mar 20th 2004, 10:58 PM

Posted by: J'Oneill2u Mar 20th 2004, 11:43 PM

Fabulous episode - it had it all. 10+ on my scale. A few comments.

Some folks thought it was too rushed at the end. I didn't. Yes, a lot was happening in a short time, but the quick pace added to the excitement and crescendo effect.

I really liked seeing Bra'Tac smile (twice even). He is normally so grim and serious being "Master" Brea'Tac that him showing a little joy made his character more rounded.

Great choice for Hammond to command the Prometheus. I didn't think of that option, but who better to lead it into battle than a seasoned war veteran & Stargate commander with a full understanding of Anubis?

I also think that we are stuck with Kinsey. After the resignation remark, the Prez said that he was sticking with his original statement, which was to tell Kinsey to shut up. I took that to mean that he really wasn't expecting Kinsey to resign.

Teal'c. CJ was great. During the first viewing, I teared up. By the 4th time I watched it, I burst into tears at the expressions on Teal'c's face.

Last but not least, Sam & Jack. Near the end when she moved his head, although I didn't want her to kiss him (at least not now 'cause he wouldn't have been able to kiss back), I would have liked for Sam to ever so lightly stroke his face. It would have added a tenderness that I think would have been appropriate. At first I thought she did, but when I replayed the scene, I realized that her thumb just moved a little.

The most poignant scene was when she placed her hand on the transparent material covering Jack. It was as though that by the time she realized she should have reached out to him long before this, it was too late.

Posted by: smellycorpse Mar 20th 2004, 11:50 PM

ok it a great two part eps. this a wierd comment about Ancient's technology, i find that the rings and gate have more details then the outpost/room with a chair.
its hard to believe that the same race made all three techs and have a different style look.
example would be gould look mostly egiption (sorry spelling is off)
i could be wrong the download wasn't that good

Posted by: Sam's Sister Mar 21st 2004, 3:32 AM

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Posted by: Sokar Mar 21st 2004, 11:23 AM

In my opinion, this was the best season finale since season 4, but then again I have not had the opportunity to see the episode Full Circle. The battle scene was very good, but I also liked the entire episode. The search for the lost city, emotional moments between O'Neill and other members of Sg-1, and the fact that President Hayes told Kinsey to shut the hell up just made the entire episode, the look on his face was priceless. The look of the weapon was kind of dissapointing, but that fact that it took out Anubis's entire fleet balanced it out. It was a huge cliffhanger, but that will make me want to see season 8 even more. I wonder if Anubis is really dead. In my opinion: ****. Great episode.

Posted by: The Doctor Mar 21st 2004, 12:03 PM

Take my advice: See Full Circle. U wont be hjappy till u see it. Its not quite as good as LC but the end is well worth it...

Posted by: Wormholz Mar 21st 2004, 7:18 PM

I loved it! The new prez getting into Anubis's face (even though just a hologram) you had to love that.

About the lost city. I was under the impression that the lost city would be Atlantis, they just had to find it yet. Am I totally off on that.

Anyway great episode, can't wait until season 8.

Posted by: Jetdeck Mar 21st 2004, 7:27 PM

I loved everything about this episode, with exception, of leaving Jack looking like a giant Ken doll! Oh, the memory of that...hurry up and get here season eight!

Posted by: WMCoolmon Mar 21st 2004, 7:35 PM

There are two big complaints I have about this one, one small.

1) Why did everyone not care Anubis knew exactly where to put his hologram? You'd think that Anubis would wipe out the white house, or the SS would rush the president out...or Anubis would send some super soldiers over to capture the President.

2) Having two outposts. If the force field at the first had failed, why was the power supply still live? And why was the power supply at the second dead? And why were there rings at one, and not the other?

3) Why did the Ancients use rings - did they not have beaming technology?

Everything else (all good) has been said by people. EXCEEELENT ground battle, EXXCELLLENT space battle, cool Ancients weapon...oh, and did Anubis really die?

Posted by: mithwriter Mar 21st 2004, 9:43 PM

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Posted by: Sousuke Mar 22nd 2004, 3:04 AM

Incredible episode, RDA did an incredible job as well as everyone else. Everyone mentions the moments between Jack and Sam, although they were great, i feel the most emotional moment was when Jack put his hand on the shoulder of Teal'c. As most of us probably have seen, in the past Teal'c has been the one that displayed the emotions about his friendship and brotherhood with jack, but for the first time in this episode; Jack pre-empted Teal'c and without speaking a word, showed great amounts of emotions.

This season is great in my opinion, for all those that do not know, season 7 was rushed, the writers, producers an others had short notice to make season 7. As everyone has seen, the latter half of season 7 was incredible. With Hero, Death Knell and etc.... it showed what the writers and producers are capable of.

As for the asgard; i am glad they didnt show up. It proves a theory i had earlier and the show continuously backs it up. Which is that the Asgard has something special instored for SG-1. IE SG-1 has a greater role to play in the whole scheme of things. That or they were getting their butts handed to them....whichever works.

On top of this, this episode could be a great explanation for why Daniel came back. As jack stated earlier "you're the only one who can translate what i say when i go.....ancient".

In the end, this is SG-1 at its best, great action, great drama, great CGI, and great writing. Although i had my doubts about Season 8, knowing that Stargate's writers always delievers in the klutch is great comfort.

Posted by: Indy Mar 22nd 2004, 3:55 PM

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Posted by: jonas_muffin Mar 22nd 2004, 8:47 PM

Me thinks that Anubis ascended again to try and escape the Ancient weapon, the overall episode quality was very good, season seven has been different, not too many strong episodes, but the last episode was worth the wait! Fave bit was the gliders/alkesh vs. F-302s and Prometheus. Stargate SG1 excels in the special effects department and they out did themselves yet again.

Keep up the good work and roll on season eight...

Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 23rd 2004, 6:06 AM

Posted by: 1st Prime Mar 23rd 2004, 12:21 PM

I expected to see an Asguard, Tollan ship to jump in & say: "We r here to help our friends/ally the Taruri (sp?) from Anibus." But don't get me wrong I loved the episode, music, sfx. So I guess RDA won't have that much screen time for season 8?

Posted by: xayeidemon Mar 23rd 2004, 12:25 PM

There's not much else to say about this ep. It was freakin' awesome. I loved every bit of it. Well, *almost* every bit.

I've been hoping (in vain) that the J/S ship was sunk in "Divide and Conquer" and "Grace." Apoparently, TPTB think it's necessary to sully the charcter of Major Samantha Carter, Ph.D, USAF and turn her into a simpering teenager pining for a man she can never have. I think it's great that she respects Jack as a superior officer, but I feel some time was wasted on those stupid shippy looks between the two of them. I saw more feelings being expressed between Jack and Teal'c than I did with Sam and Jack. I pray to God that season 8 doesn't become the uninteresting, obnoxious ship fest season 7 was.

Which brings me to another thing. Teal'c got a moment with Jack. Sam got some moments with Jack. Hell, Bra'tac got a moment with Jack. How come all Daniel got was a distracted, "I know"? I realize Jack's vocabulary might have been severly dimished by that point, but would a meaningful look or a pat on the shoulder have killed him? *frustrated sigh* TPTB should get their heads out of their arses and give us the SG-1 characters we've come to know and love. I can hardly relate to Teeny Bopper Sam and Retarded Jack.

Having said that, I thought Lost City was one of the best SG episodes EVER! RDA can say so much using only his eyes, and there were at least two moments where I thought I'd break down and start bawling on the floor. Teal'c had tears in his eyes when he thought Bra'tac was gonna die. Pass me a Kleenex...

I wish I could say Lost City was *the* best episode, but the wretched J/S ship knocked it down a few pegs.

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Posted by: WMCoolmon Mar 23rd 2004, 10:14 PM

If he managed to ascend once without the help of Oma or the other ancients, I think it might be possible for him to do it again...or since he's half-ascended he might not need to. It might be that the black suit just lets him touch the physical world, and without it he can still survive but cannot interact with anything.

After the big deal made about him being ascended in Full Circle, it seems odd to kill him off like any other Goa'uld. But maybe that really is the point, to keep people guessing.

Posted by: Acientone Mar 24th 2004, 11:19 AM

Best of episode to date, I would had love it to be a 3 part episode. I wanted Daniel Jackson to be the one to destroy Anubis.

Posted by: Kesiah Mar 24th 2004, 3:04 PM

Posted by: tarekchanti Mar 24th 2004, 3:48 PM

I dont think anubis died. If you read the spoilers for season 8 you will find out that Gual's are still attacking earth. So I'm not sure if they ment the other Gods or just anubis.
Take care you all................

Posted by: WMCoolmon Mar 24th 2004, 9:35 PM

Of course, if you don't read the spoilers section, you'll be pissed off because you were just spoiled when that spoiler was posted without a warning.

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Posted by: Martijn Mar 25th 2004, 4:24 PM

I thought this episode was paced too fast and had too many deus ex machina's (cast members getting out of a tight spot by some miracle technology several times).

They should have built it up with a cliffhanger as a season finale so you want to see the next one badly.

Also no way they can keep it a secret now, any kid with a telescope could have picked up those mother ships.

Posted by: datag Mar 25th 2004, 6:47 PM

This was a really good episode but now I have to wait a long time to see what happens to Colonel O'Neill
I wish they wouldn't make us wait so long to see what happens to me even the usual week is a really long wait curse you timing

Posted by: J'Oneill2u Mar 26th 2004, 12:05 AM

Posted by: Emmyloo Mar 27th 2004, 3:28 PM

Ok, 11 pages of posts so i'm bound to repeat something someones already said so dont have a cow.

Although i liked this episode overall, i did feel that there was something missing.
It was a good episode, but somehow it lacked suspense for me.

This ep, as did pt1, had Jack back for a complete episode. That was the best thing about this ep and 2 parter, it had that old 'team' feel to it that the rest of the Season has lacked due to personal reasons from RDA.

The 1st part seemed to drang on a bit, whereas the 2nd part seemed a bit rushed. So, in that respect, it didnt really seem all that balanced to me. Maybe it would have been better off if it had been a movie, or even just half an hour longer to even things out.

Overall though it was a good episode and a good end to a Season in need of redeeming itself. The ending left you satisfied, yet wating more, e.g. Earth is once again saved and out of danger for the time being, but what will become of Jack?...and is Anubis really gone?

The Season as whole on the other hand i am disapointed in. I only hope Season 8 doesnt go the same way, having to redeem itself at the last minute, and that the series ends on a high note, as it deserves to.

Posted by: Hii_man Mar 28th 2004, 7:27 PM

First off, Anubis has been the most kick-ass gouald ever, so they cannot kill him yet. Second, he's half ascended, which means he's half way omnipotent so he probably survives, I mean these guys can alter the physics of the universe, I'm sure Anubis comes back.

And I don't think freezing Jack is that big a cliffhanger...how did they free him the last time...The Asgard...in my opinion those little aliens aren't very helpful...Season 8 better come up with a good reason why those little buggers havent been helping out

This was an awesome episode, but I thought there were two many loopholes. Its pretty much based around SG-1 following Jack. They don't have to figure out anything at all, no mystery whatsoever. But the fight scenes were amazing. I am impressed with Earth's defense fleet.

Posted by: off world doc Mar 28th 2004, 8:25 PM

wow great episode. Pretty good special effects. I thought the cliffhanger was kinda cheap though.

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Posted by: J'Oneill2u Mar 30th 2004, 12:21 AM

Now that I have seen this episode six or seven times, I REALLY hope that we have seen the last of Anubis. It was kinda fun to see him on ships and offworld. However, when his hologram appeared in the Oval Office, he seemed more of a caricature or a cartoon than a serious adversary. I know this is a sci-fi show, but he seemed goofy, not scary. Give me a Goa'uld like Ba'al any day.

Posted by: Heru'ur Mar 30th 2004, 12:33 AM

I loved this episode. I must have watched it 5 times already. It was like the best ever. That space battle was, like the best ever. I watched it at least 10 times. Its so much better than any other previously space battle on Stargate. I hope there is even better battles in season 8. Put that Ancient weapon on the Prometheus, and General Hammond can keep his command there, and go on goa'uld hunting missions. That would be a good role for him in season 8, if he only wants to appear part-time.

Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 30th 2004, 4:45 AM

Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Mar 30th 2004, 4:07 PM

Ok watched agen for the 12th yes 12th time and i'm still loving it when Carter sez that thing about the dome and Daniel replies "yes otherwise it's quite pleasant down here" cracks me up!! The space battle is immense and the individual moments were perfectly written not too much dialouge just looks and thoughts, like their looks could make up for a thousand words and i believe that!!
Why is their such a gap i can't believe i'm stressin obver a cliffhanger that we all know will be resolved happily but i need Spetember to be here now, everytime Stargate does this to me but this episode has gotta be the worst yet damn you writers!!

Posted by: Blarg1986 Mar 30th 2004, 4:27 PM

Posted by: spacekid Mar 31st 2004, 7:01 AM

just watched episode last night finally
in work
forgot to tape it
finally found a mate who had taped it!!!

Posted by: OdinisThor'sDad Mar 31st 2004, 10:42 AM

Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Mar 31st 2004, 3:33 PM

My mam said she almost expected her to say please when the cmaera was on her after she said it, almost as if she was shocked herself!! yes i'm sad i know it off by heart and Teal'cs face when she says it is also humerous!!

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But the feeling wont last long as even though she gets promoted and gets head of SG1 she got no-one to order around as Tea'c and Daniel aren't military but i'd love for some chauvanistic pig of a guy to be on sg1 for an episode and challenge Sam's command!!

Posted by: xxxxSNAKExxxx Apr 9th 2004, 1:45 PM

Posted by: Carter-Hot Apr 10th 2004, 5:13 PM

I thought other countries would have created their own F-302s (or is it still X-302s) and help USAF fight those gliders and the Alkesh down.


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Posted by: linda_lol Apr 10th 2004, 6:46 PM

yeah, me 2

Posted by: WMCoolmon Apr 10th 2004, 8:43 PM

Russia seems to be the only country with the technology to build the F-302 and F-303...everyone else in 'Disclosure' seemed to decide Thor's implied threat was good enough for them.

Posted by: *Anubis Apr 11th 2004, 2:49 AM

I think this was a great way to end season exceps for Oneil going into stasis we may no see him till the end of season 8 there will be no laughter except for maybe teal'c. I thought the special effects were great and the way they blew up Anubis's ship was great although i don't think we have seen the last of him as he is part ancient and could easily just float through the walls and go away.

Posted by: Colonel Apr 12th 2004, 7:35 PM

hey i dont know if anybody notice this but the first X-303 or prometheus ships theres only one but they first showed up in season 5 so why arent there anymore of by now
i nean how long does it take to make one of those they made a ton of X-302 plus why didnt the russians at least build one??????? also why were there only one group of
X-302's

Posted by: Sam's Sister Apr 13th 2004, 4:02 PM

Posted by: dorien Apr 13th 2004, 6:14 PM

The last we were told, the Prometheus was running on an engine taken from an alkesh. So I think limited resources are a factor in that it's possible that some of the alien components can't be reverse engineered. A second 303 *shudder at the thought* also wouldn't have the Asgard shields making it nothing more than cannon fodder.

That there was even a first Prometheus is so implausible. Besides looking ugly, it's unrealistic to believe that within a span of six years (and it was actually less) it went from drawing board to flight test. That really puts the fiction in scifi.

Posted by: Colonel Apr 13th 2004, 7:54 PM

uh one thing u said that the hyperdrive thing we only had one but the each X-302 has its own hyper drive so why couldnt we make bigger ones and also the shields and phasers u would think that the asguard would of given us the designs so we would be able to repair if needed one more thing why didnt we put phasers things on the X-302 if we the asgaurd designs just need some backward engineering for them to become smaller or at the very least just strap some staff weapons on each side and put that USAF sticker on it

also how did the prometheus and 8 X-302 beat 4 alkeshs and 15 death gliders

Posted by: Sam's Sister Apr 14th 2004, 2:45 AM

Posted by: Halb Apr 17th 2004, 11:34 AM

In Disclosure, Thor reveals he's there to fit shields and weapons to Prometheus. The Asgard/Tollan/Nox/allotheradvancedniceraces have shown a rel;uctance to 'grant/give' tech for the sake of it, and the x-303 hand over was a direct result of Prometheus being critical in saving the Asgard in Unatural Selection. It's highlt doubtful that they would hand over more stuff for other ships and proby never reveal how they are made. Since races like the Asgard would like weaker races to figure this stuff out for themselves.
Also I think I remember that the x-302s ran out of ordinace in the last ep, thus showing they were using missles and cannons.

Posted by: Mighty Thor Apr 17th 2004, 4:49 PM

And chargable shields.(THis means asgard shield work like that(prob quite old ones))

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 19th 2004, 11:50 AM

I doubt that the F-302's have shields. They are the human equivelant of Death Gliders and they dont have shields.

Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Apr 22nd 2004, 4:46 PM

What would have made the end of the ep more exciting would be Jack accending and sam screaming "no jack dont leave us!" An some lame words from daniel.

Posted by: Dez Apr 23rd 2004, 7:00 PM

best ever episode 10/10

special effects brilliant
acting brilliant
story brilliant

don s davis finally found a role that fits him even better than before as captain of the prometheous and would make sense in time if more ships were built admiral of the flee.
Dont worry richard dean anderson will be fine as he said in ancient "sleep" thats all he is doing and now that the vice president has been fired he wont be making anymore trouble for the sgc and the president likes the people at the sgc

after this they definatly need to do a movie

Posted by: O'Neill 26 May 10th 2004, 1:51 PM

I thought this was a brilliant yet sad episode cause of what happened to Jack

I'd also give it
10/10

I can't wait until July cause i know what happens to Jack
i'll tell ya if ya want to know

Posted by: thechronical May 14th 2004, 4:23 AM

I have a question. The gate addresses are references to the star maps. So it has been said on countless times. Now they say that the gate addresses are also names for the planets in Ancient. So, how does that fit in? Was the Ancients language derived from star maps or the star maps derived from their language? Either way, some planets must have weird names! :-?

Posted by: DR Larry Murphy May 14th 2004, 9:23 AM

The fighter forces o the earth just couldn't match the speed of the death gliders, if Anubis deployed all the fighters from all of his fleet the Earth would be screwed. If we assume that each F302 had 4 missiles and shot down roughly 1 death glider at first contact and I know it didnt happen on the show but this could be the reason they could have defeated anubis.the fact that the resources are coming through blak ops may be why there are so few fighters plus the lack of available metals.

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Posted by: kaur May 19th 2004, 7:50 AM

Best episode ever, loved the ending it was great there were some bad point but the good points cover them well

Posted by: Mac.Fan May 21st 2004, 7:18 AM

It was the best episode so far. I wounder what Jack really said before he was frozen. It was a shame Sam didn't give him a kiss before he was taken to the sleep thing. I think that there was more action in the end of this episode than any other that i can think of and also a said one to. It makes us fans looking ford to see what happens in season eight

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Posted by: x-304 Jun 10th 2004, 10:48 AM

hi how many 302's went into battle? + was that a gattling gun on prometheus?

Posted by: xayeidemon Jun 10th 2004, 12:15 PM

Posted by: RookiesRevenge Jun 11th 2004, 11:14 PM

Getting Jack to say anything emotional takes the power of the ancients to do !

x-304 - There's no specific meantion in any scripts I have of that ep telling how many 302's went into battle, and I don't have the ep to count them all by sight As for the Prom having a gatlin gun, I doubt it, but I'll let someone else who knows the tech better than I tell you.

Posted by: scjon Jun 28th 2004, 6:23 PM

Wow!

I have finally managed to see both parts of Lost City. It is a single 1 1/2 hour extended episode on the DVD, which was released in the UK today.

The whole thing was so utterly amazing! Everyone's said more or less what I think and I was really pleased with the balance between the emotional and the all-out action stuff. It was also cool to have the team dynamic back again. They all play so well off each other. Fantastic acting from all concerned. The special effects and writing were also amazing!

There will, of course, always be nitpicks, but I think that everything that needed to be said/done was said/done in the time available, bearing in mind that there will be a season 8. If next season hadn't been commissioned, or if Lost City was a stand alone film (as was originally intended), then I think that the emotional/shippy bit of the ending would have been longer/less subtle.

Posted by: ramz Jun 30th 2004, 9:42 AM

Posted by: Wolf_ Jul 1st 2004, 4:02 AM

A damn good episode, loved it. :)

Ok gotta admit it, they rushed it a bit but hey, since its stargate its ok. :)

Posted by: LinkDarkJM Jul 1st 2004, 3:23 PM

The prometheus weapon must have been a human/asguard hybrid of some sort or maybe a human made anti air weapon made of a super staff weapon with rapid fire

Posted by: wonderland Jul 2nd 2004, 9:06 PM

I just saw the second part of Lost City. Special effects were toooo cool. Those guys (and gals) deserve whatever kind of an award they give up North.
The story was a bit predictable, could have been made into one ep. instead of two.
That said, I thought the acting was right on the money. Jack was being Jack all along, to have asked him to do something different would have betrayed the character. He didn't have to tell everyone how he felt, they knew it. Although I thought his scene with Teal'c, when he just touched his cheek, was more emotionally fulfilling than anything else. Almost made me cry

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Posted by: cibi Jul 5th 2004, 12:11 PM

wrong episode... (now in 721)

Posted by: Ra 1 Jul 10th 2004, 3:58 PM

Sadly, I just saw this episode last week. been outta the loop for awhile. Great ending to part 1! The one thing that gets me though is the "Ancient head sucking thingy". If the ancients were so advanced, wouldn't they make it safer to use?