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Posted by: Arcady Jul 16th 2004, 12:04 AM

Episode 1 - Rising (Part One)
Air Date: (US) July 16, 2004

A new Stargate team embarks on a dangerous mission to a distant galaxy, where they discover a mythical lost city -- and a deadly new enemy
(Part 1 of 2.)

http://www.sg1archive.com/atlantis/s1.shtml#101 | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/atlantis_trailer.html | http://www.sg1archive.com/teasers/atlantis_101.html

(This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

Posted by: infra172 Jul 16th 2004, 9:03 PM

First hour was awesome! I was really worried this show would suck. I'm enjoying this episode as much as this season's SG-1 premier. Finally, something worthwhile comes out of Canada.

Posted by: fahadwajid Jul 16th 2004, 9:31 PM

i definately agree with you
the atlantis city visuals are great
the city looks beutiful

Posted by: Aquila Jul 16th 2004, 9:42 PM

Posted by: JRW1891 Jul 16th 2004, 9:52 PM

NOt too bad so far .... lets see how that ancient technology stands up

This definately has potential ... not a bad start. What do you all think??

Posted by: wheeloftimefan Jul 16th 2004, 10:05 PM

Posted by: infra172 Jul 16th 2004, 10:13 PM

On the same note, best part of first part:

Daniel: He's Canadian.
Jack: I'm sorry.

Posted by: Tok'ra chic Jul 16th 2004, 10:21 PM

Posted by: bob is almighty Jul 16th 2004, 10:48 PM

Posted by: NDIrish42350 Jul 16th 2004, 10:59 PM

That episode was awesome. This show has a great start, and it really looks like it could be really really good. Major Sheppard is the freakin man. People were sayin they were tryin to put a new Jack in the show with the humor. I found his sense of humor original and I was actually laughing aloud sometimes. You can also see that Sheppard and Ford are going to get along real well. They already started to show real good chemistry and the cockpit scenes were pretty good.

This show started off real great and if most episodes are like the series premiere this will be as good as SG1.

Posted by: Jackal Guards Rule Jul 16th 2004, 11:00 PM

That Dr. Beckett guy sounds kinda like Merry from Lord of the Rings

I was thinking the exact same thing, except I think he sounds more like Pip.

Posted by: Bowley Jul 16th 2004, 11:06 PM

Posted this in spoilers, not realizing this topic existed. Don't even know HOW I found this topic. As a matter of fact I don't even know if this IS the right topic...but here goes....

anyway, here's my take on episodes 1 & 2 (jumble of thoughts)... so far pretty exciting. Still has the Stargate feel to it. Was getting tired of SG-1 (gasp!)... this might breathe new life into my excitement for the whole Stargate Universe in general. And here I thought that only the 4 team members were going, but no...a whole damn group went. I like that.
Atlantis itself is very well designed. Doesn't look too corny to me, looks like a lot of design work went into this premiere...and that is probably an understatement. New gate symbols and even a new video of gate travel (instead of the old movie one)
The main characters I like so far, I'm getting used to Weir...Shepherd seems like the O'neill of Atlantis, but he's a pretty cool character, the "puddle-jumper" conversation comes to mind as a good moment. They better not let him die, being the only one who can use any of the ancient stuff proficiently. For some reason I really like Mkay/ Mckay?, I like the character better, a little more real than perfect Carter (double gasp!). I find the Scottish accent guy to be pretty amusing. Bla bla bla....um ...yes The Wraith. Much much more scarier enemy. Kudos to that. The Gua'uld just don't do it for me. But a scary even more advanced race that eat people...well sh*t...and now they are all awake. They
look a little odd, but I'll get used to it. Kind of like humanoid creepy catfish people, things. The chick was especially ugly. Those ships sound like some crazy electric guitar riff. "They do not have a need to explain themselves" ...I like that...gets away from the "James Bond" effect of a villain explaining their big bad an evil plan to everyone. Seems like the henchmen are still dumb like the Jaffa, running around and dying.
..oh also thought that having Shanks and RDA in the episode made a nice bridge to the new series.

Peeves- nothing too big) Kind of weird how the Wraith are so advanced that the ancients can't beat them, but Shepherd with a machine gun can destroy one of their ships.
Everyone speaking English still, been a problem ever since the first season of SG-1...oh well I give up.
Kind of pissed Sumner died...oh well... reminds me of the movie "Executive Decision" where Steven Seagal dies in the first 20 mins.
Wraith so far are easy to beat...I hope they get harder. They're scary, but they don't have the skill shown to back up their reputations as Ancient killers. And if they were ALWAYS this easy, wonder what that says about the Ancients.

Good music so far, I heard a few hints of the Stargate theme a few times. No distinct Atlantis theme yet. Unless the music during the Helicopter ride was it. In that case it wasn't bad.

Anyway...seems like it'll be a cool show, I'll watch it... if it sucks...looks like I'm watching Battlestar Galactica. Alright, fill in the holes...I left out A LOT.

Thanks

Posted by: mjd Jul 16th 2004, 11:23 PM

I'm not one for long posts..so...i'll make it short. I really enjoyed the episode...was really impressed by the layout and visual effects of the city...both above and below water...i think we have another good show to watch!!

Out of curiosity...when we saw the 2 Ancients in the opening sequence (millions of years ago) was the female the same one from the episode Frozen (Season 6 ep#4)

Posted by: Arcady Jul 16th 2004, 11:55 PM

That was pretty cool. I liked the doctor.

Posted by: jdx Jul 17th 2004, 12:16 AM

Hey i noticed that too mjd! I thought she looked familiar. That's kinda cool that they fit her in there.

As for this episode, I thought it was great. All the characters seem cool. I was hoping for a little intro to check out the any new theme music but i can wait a week. Overall a very nice episode.

Posted by: Mitch_Conner Jul 17th 2004, 1:16 AM

I hope no one kills me for saying this, but i thought the Atlantis premire was better than SG-1s Season 8 premire.

Posted by: TurtleTracks Jul 17th 2004, 1:28 AM

Great series opener, three cheers However, i'm getting a bit confused on where the ancients originated from, and which galaxy the wraith were from (probably the original ancients galaxy), and the flight from Earth, etc. Maybe just too many beers, but me confused a bit. Anyone have a clear line on this?

I really enjoyed that there was no pretention about the wraith, no pompousness. Pure evil. One desire (well, two)...to eat and dominate. End of discussion. Well done imo. Their ships are a bit weak but sure make a nice sound as they fly by. And the Asgard-like transporter....some connection there I wonder?

Posted by: Belissner Jul 17th 2004, 2:02 AM

Yes, the Ancient female in the very opening sequence of Part One WAS the same one found buried in the ice by the SGCers working down there in Antarctica after the Solitudes episode, when Jack and Sam were thrown thru the second stargate.

The Ancient male was angry when he left her. Was it because she was infected with the plague? Was it because she wanted to -- or had to -- stay on Earth while Atlantis migrated to the Pegasus Galaxy? Interesting to think about, but it was indeed the same girl.

Posted by: bigjohn_1972 Jul 17th 2004, 2:06 AM

Posted by: pokershark Jul 17th 2004, 9:52 AM

ok....I'm a loyal SG-1 fan and, like many of you, I was also worried that Atlantis would suck. However, I thought it was very cool . I like John Shepperd, he's like a cross between O'Neil and Daniel. I like his since of humor.....he's definitly my fav. character. I also thought it was funny when Spacemonkey asked if it was too late to go with them and Jack wouldn't let him go. The city is really cool. Everything turning on like that, responding to the presence of the group. I also liked the scene where John was thinking of how to find the prisoners and that device came and he says "Now I'm thinking of a nice turkey sandwhich." it doesn't appear. "It was worth a try, sir." It had a lot of humor in it than SG-1 does *mob forms* anyway, I think the Wraith is just plain stupid! *bigger mob with tourches and pitchforks appear* Well, it's the truth. They're basicly just vampires only with the sleuths on their hands! I thought they would have a better, more creative bad guy. And many of u might hate me for it but I know many people will agree! and the guy with the scottish accent.....he reminds me more of Scotty from Startrek. and even though it was really cool (except for the bad guys) I still think it won't last for more than 3 seasons at the max. *mob glares*

~Later

Posted by: The Doctor Jul 17th 2004, 10:34 AM

Moderately good. Nice effects and humour. Sucked in pacing but there u go. Second part will be better. I like Sheppard though.

Posted by: PricklyPear Jul 17th 2004, 10:46 AM

Part One of Rising was good only for the minutes RDA was on screen. His charisma is unbeatable! So far, none of the other actors has really impressed me; Sheppard is SO derivative -- his character has very little that is unique or that separates him from all other hot shot hero wannabes.

I stand on neutral ground about "Atlantis."

Posted by: Vixa Jul 17th 2004, 11:57 AM

It was just another "Children of the Gods" with Vampires as Gods...

Posted by: Raz Jul 17th 2004, 12:34 PM

All those who doubted it....be ashamed...be VERY ashamed.... GREAT premiere, love the new show and can't wait for new episodes. It is just as good as SG-1 and the fact that RDA and MS were in (even for the short time) made the transition even better. Brilliant Season Premiere, and good set up for the wraith!

Posted by: Muskusrat Jul 17th 2004, 1:49 PM

Well I just saw the first two episodes of Atlantis and I am a bit dissapointed. Sure the effects where ok but stoty was crap. I mean how is it possible that a sidewinder or even a para is capable of taking out one of those ships? I mean the wrath (or how you spell it) or miljons of years ahead in evolution and they still can not handle a simple rocket or a few bullets? Where are the energy shields surrounding the ships? I mean come on the ancients would kick there asses easily if they do not have shield (like that one ship that took out 5 of those fighters and it had a noobies pilot behind the stick). It doesn't make sense.

So from a story point it is total crap . Special effect where ok but not that great. The worm hopper looks cheap those wrath things looked much better (but again where are the shields).

Posted by: infra172 Jul 17th 2004, 1:59 PM

We're hundreds of years more advanced but I can still kill you with a bow and arrow.

Posted by: mjd Jul 17th 2004, 2:23 PM

i don't think a bow and arrow would work to well against a tank...that may be a better comparison

Posted by: Muskusrat Jul 17th 2004, 2:26 PM

Posted by: Ra. Jul 17th 2004, 2:39 PM

I'm getting frustrated waiting for this to download

Posted by: samandjack2003 Jul 17th 2004, 4:39 PM

I loved the part at the SGC. I loved Jack being in charge. He did a good job. He acted a little like Hammon.d But he did great as a general.

Posted by: Tanais Jul 17th 2004, 4:49 PM

okie dokie, i aint seen Rising yet bcause im in the UK, but does any1 in rising actually say the Wraith are the ones who killed off the Ancients, if not...then how do we know the Wraith did it, (incase im attacked y an angry mob, im just suggesting an idea)

Tanais Rahn xx

Posted by: wheeloftimefan Jul 17th 2004, 5:02 PM

Posted by: Tanais Jul 17th 2004, 5:13 PM

well, that answers my question...but sometimes a larger army can be seen as a disease, example...i could say 'they spread across the land like rabied dogs, a disease, plague, evil moving faster and faster' im talkin bout an army, but i can put it in the context of a disease.....which ep does it actually say it was a disease btw?

Tanais Rahn xxx

Posted by: wheeloftimefan Jul 17th 2004, 5:25 PM

Posted by: Aquila Jul 17th 2004, 5:27 PM

Posted by: Tanais Jul 17th 2004, 5:32 PM

i think i remember that now....but anyway, i was just putting a suggestion 4ward..valid point tho anyway, as i aint seen the ep yet....the antartic ancient healing end up dead gal is in it? wicked! is it true one of Anubis's kull guys is in it?

Tanais Rahn

Posted by: IceQueen Jul 17th 2004, 6:19 PM

Loved the premiere.
Definitely a good idea to have RDA and Shanks in it.

Have racial issues.
1) Ayianna (the "Frozen" gal) was white in the "Frozen" episode. But somehow -- she was black in the sequence for "Atlantis"!? Wtf?
2) Ford -- watched from the middle, and then the beginning again -- had no idea he was black, until I saw his black grandparents see him off. How could I not notice that???
Did anyone else have similar hallucinations?

Aside from that, disagree that the Wraiths have less OOMPH and show-offness than the Goa'ulds AT ALL!!! They were all, "Uh, you're not good enough for me to speak to," (with the exception of Sumner) and "Uh, you are food."

Question: Why didn't Earth give Atlantis a power source sufficient for them to get back, at departure?

Posted by: wheeloftimefan Jul 17th 2004, 7:15 PM

Posted by: only_1_mac Jul 17th 2004, 7:27 PM

Posted by: eolithic1500bc Jul 17th 2004, 8:32 PM

IceQueen
I dont think Ayianna "the ancient from Frozen" looked black she prob seemed darker from the lighting. Also to answer your question the reason earth didnt give up another ZPM "Zero Point Module" was cuz they only had 1 from SG-1 season 7 ep 22. The one already in the outpost on earth was depleted.

only_1_mac
no shes the same chic, i think she got left behind cuz she had the plague but the guy didnt "that would be why every1 got sick when she was defrosted". Only ancients free of the plague left i think.

The Ancients were not killed off by the Wraith.They were infected with a disease long before they ran into the them. They left there sick behind and left to start over in another galaxy free of the plague that was killing them. Then they ran into the Wraith who put up a fight they werent prepared for so they sank Atlantis and fled through the gate back to Earth. But what i dont get is why they wouldnt just take Alantis to a new glaxy and try to start over again.

Muskusrat
I dont think the Ancients are natural fighters like we are "maybe they were at some point". They are so advanced that they prob never needed to have tactical advantage. Myabe the Wraith are just more evolved but dumb "you know the saying you dont use it you lose it". Ok my point may not have some across like i wanted but what i basically mean is the Ancients are natural adventurers and the Wraith are natural warriors who do you think would win.

Posted by: Cryosis Jul 17th 2004, 10:49 PM

I recorded the episode and about 15 minutes or more were not recorded. It stopped shortly after Teyla was abducted and Dr. McKay was warning that they should leave because of the power drain. They were still underwater at the time. It picked up with Dr. Weir and Major Shepard talking outside and Atlantis was above water and there appeared to be no problems with power. What happened between these two events? Help!

Posted by: eolithic1500bc Jul 17th 2004, 11:15 PM

Cryosis
Not much all that pretty much happened was that sheppard walked up to a crashed Wraith fighter and shot at a moving Wraith arm. Ford memorized zome of the signs on the DHD from when the Wraith were leaving through the gate. Sheppard brought back all/most of the surviving people of Teylas world. The doctor guy was telling Weir about the Wraith from what he got by studying one of their arms. Then Dr. Weir asked Major Sheppard to step outside to talk about the rescue mission.

If i remembered correctly thats pretty much all that happened.

Posted by: Zoidman Jul 18th 2004, 10:46 AM

Posted by: TurtleTracks Jul 18th 2004, 11:15 AM

"Then they ran into the Wraith who put up a fight they werent prepared for so they sank Atlantis and fled through the gate back to Earth."

---Ok, this right here is exactly why I got confused. Up til this point I had it mostly together, including this bit. However, if they were trapped under the ocean in the Pegasus galaxy, the shields held off the Wraith, and eventually they couldn't get anywhere in the Pegasus galaxy and so left for Earth again (hoping the plague was over, etc.), then how did they build other stargates in the Pegasus galaxy? I don't get it

Posted by: Zoidman Jul 18th 2004, 11:47 AM

Posted by: Cryosis Jul 18th 2004, 1:21 PM

Posted by: IndyJan Jul 18th 2004, 1:25 PM

Posted by: ted_simple Jul 18th 2004, 1:37 PM

I've been asking myself where the strength of the Wraith lies.

Maybe there should be a poll if anyone can think of some explanations?

Their abilities seem to be comparable to the Goa'uld or even Asgard (Transporters), but not all powerful, and I find this interesting because it makes me wonder how they defeated the Ancients? Looking forward to the upcoming episodes with that thought in mind...

Posted by: rosie Jul 18th 2004, 1:53 PM

i think their strength relies in their hand. with out their hand, they arent able to feed, therefore die of starvation (?) just a thought...

Posted by: ASCENDED Jul 19th 2004, 1:39 AM

I liked this episode. But one thing bugs me. Daniel wanted to go on the atlantis mission, he isn't a member of the militair, so why would he have to listen to O'neill (that was by the way a very funny scene) and not go. Weir would like to have him, so I don't see the problem.

Posted by: keppiezbt Jul 19th 2004, 8:32 AM

I look forward to seing how the wraiths are so powerful. remember how the keep looks at shepperd and is like where di you get this device? intersting.


As for the ancients, i missed what the hologram said. ANyone give me details. I got the jist of it but i woul like someonthing more complete?

also, i wonder (and maybe the hologram text answers this) did the ancients come to pegasus before or after the plague? is that why they left earth?

Posted by: ONeill135 Jul 19th 2004, 8:40 AM

ABSOLUTELY FAB!!!!
Best thing on TV along side SG-1
not as good as SG-1 but its still fantastic, SFX were fantastic, when i first saw the puddle jumper i thought it looked crap, but when he opened fire on the wraith, was i wrong, this whole show is ACE lookin forward to next episodes of SG-1 and Atlantis.

Oh and defoes best lines in episode.

Daniel: He's Canadian
Jack: I'm Sorry.

Loved it.

Posted by: Cryosis Jul 19th 2004, 10:39 AM

I missed about 15 minutes of this episode. How did they get Atlantis above water when they had barely enough power to sustain the forcefields below water. Did Major Shepard find another one of those ZPM's before coming back or did they use a generator to supplement power? Help!

Posted by: eolithic1500bc Jul 19th 2004, 1:35 PM

No after all the power was gone or the shields failed it rised. I guess it was like a failsafe so the city wouldnt be destroyed.

Posted by: pokershark Jul 19th 2004, 5:04 PM

Posted by: Picard Jul 20th 2004, 6:34 AM

Well what can I say but WOW!!!!!

So much potential to go on to be a great series

Well worth watching dood?s

Posted by: Picard Jul 20th 2004, 6:48 AM

Posted by: CitizenK Jul 20th 2004, 7:52 PM

Posted by: Kromando33 Jul 22nd 2004, 2:38 AM

well i absolutely loved it, this will serve as a good replacement for sg1 when it finishes, like characters etc.. sounds like the atlantis people will be in for a hell of a fight whe the caretakers raise the rest of the wraith, they won't againist an enemy that destroyed the ancients they will need some worthy allies, maybe the furlings (only kidding ), i'm not going to nitpick at all coz i like it all.

Posted by: PinkPeril Jul 22nd 2004, 2:55 AM

Maybe it will grow on me - but to be honest I wasn't blown away. I found Major Sheppard irratating and it was stupid that it was him that insisted on rescuing Robert Patrick as he was the only one who could fly them all out of there!!! If he had been captured/killed, they all would have been! - Stupid!! Having said that though I can see where the writers were coming from as he had to witness the Wraith to go back and tell everyone how $h!t scarey they were!

Although the puddle-jumper was bigger - I much preferred the old Jaffa ship from Into the Fire.

Saving grace: Dr Rodney McKay was fantastic! I posted some time ago that he would be the best regular guest star for the show - and lo and behold - shortly afterwards he was cast! To be honest I feel he will be the star of the show and the Daddy and backbone of the Atlantis Project!

Posted by: Papa Jul 23rd 2004, 2:52 AM

Geez what can i say,

everything has been covered before me so i guess ill just reiterate what everyone else has said,

I was kinda worried about this spinoff, and i must say and i will be the first to admit that i didnt think the show would be all that good, but once again im comfortable enough to admit when im wrong, and well this is just another one of those times when im wrong (i should get used to it)

The First two episodes kicked some serious butt, The fact that we saw Jack as general for the first time was cool, i loved it when daniel was trying to go with the
expedition team and he kept saying NO, i must say it would have been COOL if DJ was in atlantis but hey you get that, and the other scientist was cool anyway!

Sheppard is a CHAMP!

and thats about it .. i think that atlantis will fill the void that stargate will leave!

Posted by: Celtic_FIST Jul 25th 2004, 12:49 PM

it looks like this show is going to bomb.. because they have nonsuper human characters. It kinda lacks the Stargate spirit. It feels more like an Andromeda version of Stargate.

they have this warrior chick alien, that looks human and fights with sticks whats up with that is this like a Zena warrior camio.

you got this weapons expert who likes to shot stuff

cocky top gun Pilot.

as a comic relief you got this canadian Steve Erckle scientist..

I think this show needs another Daniel Jackson.. super human masrter of languages..

to me this show lacks that element.

Posted by: bigjohn_1972 Jul 25th 2004, 1:54 PM

Was there any discussion of the finding of the information that led to the Atlantis gate address? In the episode, DJ just says that they found out that what they had was an incomplete address. Was there any more talk about this that I missed?

Posted by: mithwriter Jul 28th 2004, 9:56 PM

First off, I was really impressed with the amount of money that was thrown at the pilot ep, especially with the sets and fx. The Antartic Base was very cool, especially that mine shaft elevator. I'm guessing a lot of ice had to be melted to make it bigger, because the outpost underground certainly looked a LOT larger than what was seen in Lost City, to say nothing of that set-up on the surface.

I was surprised that the power source was still working after O'Neill used the weapon. Answers a few questions I had about it. Also loved those helicopter shots of the landscape. Absolutely gorgeous. Don't know where that was, but whoever was in that chopper must've had a grand time, and I'm jealous, 'cause I'd just get motion sick if given the same chance and just make a mess.

Also, is the show shot digitally? I noticed it looked....different, especially when I was watching the preview of Jack and Daniel in front of the white board. Either that or the film was really sharp...hmm...

I forgot that the team was an international one until I saw all these people with different flag patches on their uniforms, including Russians. I hope this doesn't mean they're going to be 'red shirted' for the series.

The explanation on how they got Atlantis's cooridinates was either really quick or I just didn't catch it. I'm assuming they basically just found the info at the outpost and did some translating.

One of the other things that struck me was O'Neill's attitude about Sheppard not wanting to go through the gate. Granted, Sheppard had just learned about all this stuff, but I actually got the impression that O'Neill really likes going through the gate, especially during that brief scene they have in the helicopter before heading back to McMurdo. That's not something I've really ever picked up on before. I've always thought of him as more that he does it because he has to. Quite a little adventure junkie our Jack has turned into, eh?

Also, the scenes in which the selected crew members spend their last days with family (or in McKay's case, his cat) before going off. What were they allowed to tell their family, I wonder?

Anyway that's it.

Posted by: Reignfire Jul 28th 2004, 11:32 PM

Posted by: Rancid Monkey Jul 30th 2004, 7:56 AM

maybe the reason the wraith pilots that sheppard totally owned sucked so much because they have gotten complacent...think about it, after the ancients buggered off, who would be around to challenge them? how many million years has it been? and its not like it took a great deal of skill to blow them out of space...sheppard just thought "weapons" and the high tech ancient ship automatically started shooting swarms of drones at anything that moved...as for the m249 taking a chunk out of the wraith ship...who knows...

did stike me as odd that at the end (of part 2) the 2 guys with the rocket launchers were standing so close to the puddle jumper...wouldnt the backblast from firing those things kinda make everyone in the ship extra crispy?

and was it just me, or did the male ancient in the intro bear a passing resemblence to apophis? im pretty sure it wasnt the same actor (unless the casting director has a really evil sense of humour) but it sure had me going for a minute there

Posted by: penelope_pitstop Jul 31st 2004, 4:33 PM

Posted by: executor04 Jul 31st 2004, 8:56 PM

Posted by: executor04 Jul 31st 2004, 9:00 PM

just to add that I know most agree on... after the ancients MAIN populations were "eaten" by the Wraith, and not a large amoutn of population to sustain them, they went into hibernation, with the caretakers to monitor them for when they would be able to strike again. Shows that Earth is the only planet around with "billions" of humans. Every other planet has small pockets. Not enough to feed the whole wraith contingent.

ALso when people ask why the ancients left our galaxy. Perhaps the wraith had a way to track ancients or something along those lines. The ancients left our galaxy 1. to help protect their own. 2. so the wraith wouldn't come and destory our galaxy where the ancients had their alliance (nox furlings, asguard). A =sacrifice the ancients made.. which thor seemed sad about when he talked about it.


someone just brought up to me when reading htis.. then why didnt the wraith track them to earth if they can track ancients.

answer if it applies to the theory - the ancients on earth lived normal lives, no technology. Same way daniel said the info sliped to the ancient greeks. They integrated with current life. Never discloing who they were or using their technology again.

Posted by: Gramner Aug 3rd 2004, 5:42 AM

So the tollens survived after all!

Posted by: cashmere Aug 4th 2004, 7:43 AM

Only seen first 20mins, but the best quote

MS - "They Packed Up and Left Somewhere between 5 Million Years Ago"

RDA - "In There Flying City"

MS - "Yes.... What"

RDA - "Flying City??"

Not Bad So far though it would have been corny with thouse new uniforms... not to bad though

Can wait for it to air in the UK

Posted by: Metel Setek Noximus Aug 5th 2004, 7:04 PM

Okay...What is the deal with the new wormhole?

Posted by: Nicole_Sheppard Aug 15th 2004, 8:09 PM

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Posted by: Mac.Fan Aug 17th 2004, 10:37 PM

I have just seen part one of it. It was good from what i have seen. Jack had a interesting welcome to the site. Daniel was also in it and he work out the gate address. I am looking ford to seeing part 2. It is going to be intresting season.

Posted by: Christy Sep 16th 2004, 4:21 AM

I thought that this was better than Stargate SG 1's series premier, this one had more action and didn't have anything which i would go...boring, skip, don't want to watch this part..i think i watched the premier 5 times before getting tired of it.
It was really well written and i think that the writers should have been proud of themselves.

Posted by: IndyJan Sep 16th 2004, 9:09 AM

Posted by: samandjack2003 Sep 24th 2004, 1:51 PM

Where can I download for Free this episode?

Posted by: linda_lol Sep 25th 2004, 9:33 PM

This was my first time seeing the episode and I thought it was pretty good. I love Dr. Beckett! Hes so funny! Hes great to have on the show, and he cares about his patients. I love the missile part thingy in that scene with Jack and Shepard. That was great, the way those two work together is great! BTW, where was Sam in Teal'c in this? It kept bothering me that they weren't helping out in this. Especially Sam, she loves technology science stuff like the Ancient chair.

Posted by: ali Oct 12th 2004, 4:11 PM

I've just finished watching it, and I thought it was great. I was expecting it to be good but I didn't think they'd have the chemistry between the characters yet. I can't wait for next week's! It's so annoying when "To be continued" flashes up on the screen!
I really like Mckay now as well, I used to hate him but he's really grown on me. I liked it when he started saying "Chevron one encoded.."
I also like the new wormhole, and the new stargate's growing one me too. But if they had no real idea of where they were going, how did they know what to take, and how much to take?

Posted by: stargatesweetie Oct 12th 2004, 5:09 PM

Posted by: hawkes Oct 12th 2004, 8:17 PM

I've got to say i wasn't expecting much when i sat down to watch this, i was more interested to see the wraith and their introduction (this next week will kill me, lol.) But i was surprised at how good this started out, it retained that stargate feel which i was most glad of, and the characters so far are great. They seem to have started off strong, altough i have to agree with stargatesweetie in saying that the annoying scientist who is constantly saying "was it my fault" was my only complaint. One easily missed though.

Mckay i thought would really be a bad choice when i first read he was in this, but seeing him so far he does add a key strength to the show. Much better than his appearances on SG1 i think.

Posted by: Chevron_eight Oct 13th 2004, 2:25 AM

Posted by: Draconus Oct 13th 2004, 3:24 AM

Did anyone find it wierd that the Ancients had time to leave dust sheets on the consoles?

and what's with the windows rattling? an advanced civilisation that can build the gates (we think) and can fly away in their city, can't even glaze a window properly!
plus, did anyone notice the glass door bounce when it opened at one point.


I REALLY need to get out more....

I really enjoyed the first ep. Normally I'd see the words "spin off" and run a mile!
we laughed all the way through and I have to admit, I only saw two or three things coming...
I enjoyed the relaxed start they had with the helecopter ride, kinda settled you down, made you take interest.

Posted by: gem360 Oct 13th 2004, 6:28 AM

I was looking forward to watching this and i did enjoy it but really hate it when it says to be continued but im looking forward to watching part 2 and the rest of the season.

Posted by: three fries shortofa happymeal Oct 13th 2004, 1:28 PM

i think that it was a bit rushed at the beginning, especially about the ancient gene and using that chair

Wier is going to annoy me, i still dont think she's a capable leader

also what confused me is the titles at the start, are there any????i dont know whether it was just Sky one cutting them off.



overall, i thought it was quite good, if not a bit rushed

Posted by: MajikthizeII Oct 13th 2004, 3:59 PM

I started reading all the back posts here and realised they were littered with spoilers for part two so had to give up. I'm pleased to say that I am completely spoiler free for Atlantis so had no idea what to expect.

I thought it made a very promising start. Probably my only complaint was the timing of the episode. I'd just finished watching New Order part two and five minutes later I'm supposed to be watching the Antarctic base with Dr Weir, after months of research and development down there. Just felt uncomfortable. Could have done with a couple of weeks gap between them. But that's just a really minor complaint and no reflection on the actual episode itself.

I like all the characters except Teyla. Don't know why, except there seems to be this deliberate attempt to push some chemistry between her and Sheppard and, in the process, we've not actually seen much of who she is. IMO, you can't force people to prefer to 'ship for one particular pair. It'll happen or it won't. Who knows how that'll develop though; could be just the writers rubbing people together to see which ones spark.

I'm a bit confused about this business with the genes to make the technology work. Does that mean O'Neill has the ancient genes? Does that mean the headsucker thing would only work on someone who has the genes? That would make some sense, given that the Asgard have said O'Neill was slightly more advanced than average humans. It would also dovetail nicely with that plot point as raised in Fragile Balance and exlplain why only some people were abducted and cloned by Asgards in the past (don't you just love it when writers do that?)

I'm glad to see they took plenty of red shirts with them. Lots of people to kill off over the series then, when required. I'm just waiting for Doggett...er, the T1000...er...yeah, Robert Patrick's character to bite the bullet. Big nasty signpost over that one, I'm afraid.

Absolutely hate the uniforms. Why oh why oh why? Really unecessary. All those daft splashes of colour make it look like a cheap Star Trek rip off. Standard army greens or air force blues, or just civvies would have been perfectly acceptable.

In all I thought it was a great start for a new series. Spoiled only slightly by Sky One's lovely trailers which features the city rising out of the ocean, thus making the whole "how are we going to maintain the shield and stop eveyone from drowning" tension a little bit obsolete. Cheers for that, Sky.

Posted by: hawkes Oct 13th 2004, 6:46 PM

Posted by: gem360 Oct 14th 2004, 8:05 AM

actually now that i think about it, it did seem a little rushed at the beginning with that ancient gene thing, was it explained as to how they knew about putting people in the chair to see if they have it or not? but still i enjoyed it.

Posted by: Jon The UK SG-1 Fan Oct 14th 2004, 1:42 PM

Not bad, best part was with the Scottish guy activating the missile thing that chased O'Neill and whatever that other guys name was around in the chopper I can't believe it didn't hit But yeah it was rushed in my opinion.

Posted by: hawkes Oct 14th 2004, 6:13 PM

Posted by: Mad Oct 17th 2004, 6:07 AM

I'm over here in backward England, so I've only seen "Rising" so far. Just to ask, who is the hot British scientist with the weird accent? I know it's a strange question but it's been bothering me all week.
Also I want to say that Atlantis, from what I've seen so far, has really exceeded expectations and I can't wait til the next one
x

Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 17th 2004, 1:51 PM

How good was Rising Part 1. Looking forward to see the whole season of Atlantis now. the opening sequence was brilliant. Thought the new gate looked ace.

Posted by: CitizenK Oct 17th 2004, 3:10 PM

Posted by: Chevron_eight Oct 18th 2004, 2:29 AM

Posted by: Mad Oct 22nd 2004, 3:00 PM

Wow, the Ancients think of everything! Pigeons in the control room . One thing though- their hologram was lovely quality, but the sound was a bit rubbish. Yes, I know I'm a pedant, and an annoying one at that. It just occured to me as I was watching and as some of you know, I tend to type the first strange thought that comes into my head.
Why must I wait a week for the next episode?! Oh, no I'm going to Wales on Tuesday! AAAA! Must... find... video... tape...
See what I mean. Oh, and just for the record, I thought the name "Gateship 1" was cool. Is it weird that I find Dr Beckett attractive? O dear.
x

Posted by: Christy Nov 3rd 2004, 11:57 PM

I think that the first episode showed a promise that the series was going to be a good one...but i reckon the 2nd half of the pilot was better

Posted by: 38 Minutes Dec 3rd 2004, 2:13 PM

Posted by: Carter-Hot Dec 8th 2004, 9:44 AM

Am I the only one here who thought that when they stepped through the gate in SGC that we should have saw the usual rollercoaster ride then the warping then entering of the green slider-like rollercoaster, or is that just me?

Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 8th 2004, 8:46 PM

Posted by: invisible painting Dec 8th 2004, 9:02 PM

Travel between stargates is meant to seem instantanious to the traveller but in actual fact it takes them about 10 seconds to travel there, it just seems instantanius because your only molecules so they dont know a thing about it when they are going through. Its almost instantanious though for the distances they travel which is why people say it is instantanious.

Posted by: Krystian SG1 Jan 5th 2005, 9:32 PM

Good episode, i would like then to show more of how the gate was locking the chevrons instead of people talking. Also anyone notice how the dialing monitors where flashing idle when they were dialing the gate.

Posted by: soma_momma Jan 7th 2005, 8:43 PM

Rewatching this on SciFi right now.

Some things:

Wondering why they acted like O'Neill had never made the chair work as easily as Sheppard; did I miss something?

And not thinking it believable that O'Neill wouldn't let Jackson go if he really wanted to--and believing he would want it more than anything in his life. Wondering if they even brought it up just to suggest the possibility of Shanks joining the show later if/when SG-1 folded it's tent. Kind of like a fictional acting out of the actor's desire to be on Atalntis. Not that I have heard he wanted it. Just speculating.

Posted by: BrandonTheGreat Jan 12th 2005, 4:59 PM

Great way to start the season, this episode was great. Altough we didn't see any real ancients..

Posted by: Christy Jan 18th 2005, 12:23 AM

there's nothing wrong with seeing hologram anicents...it is an ancient after all.

I don't think Shanks would make a good addition to Atlantis...i mean, we are so familiar with him and for him to come into the series it would seem wrong.
it's like when Jonas joined SG1...it didn't seem right for Shanks not to be there...
so for Shanks to be in Atlantis it would seem out of place...unless he wasn't really made apart of Atlantis and more of an observer/researcher and wasn't in every episode...sorta like Paul Miggilon (sorry, not sure how to spell his last name) who plays Carson Beckett...
I could live with that kind of arrangment

Posted by: frostychocolatemilkshakes Jan 25th 2005, 11:33 PM

I forgot to turn my VCR off so the 2 part premier didn't tape!

Thank god they are replaying the season once it's over. (Movie Central)

From what I have read it was a strong start!

Posted by: Dafmeister Jan 31st 2005, 8:59 AM

I forgot to turn my VCR off so the 2 part premier didn't tape! 

Thank god they are replaying the season once it's over. (Movie Central)

From what I have read it was a strong start!

Posted by: KoKi Feb 1st 2005, 10:26 AM

cool city


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Posted by: Dafmeister Feb 1st 2005, 11:31 AM

cool city

Posted by: Christy Mar 13th 2005, 2:35 AM

ah but when there is nothing better to add and spamming is such a quick thing to do why not do it?
ah well.


Going back to the Daniel Jackson thing where he wanted to go...did anyone else get the feeling that his heart just wasnt in it when he was saying how much he wanted to go to Atlantis?

Posted by: Carter-Hot Mar 28th 2005, 8:31 AM

Rewatching the series premiere again on my laptop and I too think Shanks just overacted that desire, to explore the Ancient city.

I still think people (like Sheppard) with the Ancient gene is activating the lights on the central control tower.

Still preferred to see the usual Stargate wormhole then the warp then going through the Stargate Mk II wormhole.

Why is Garwin Sanford playing both: Simon as well as Narim

Posted by: Christy Apr 9th 2005, 1:18 AM

Carter-Hot...apparently they re-use a lot of actors and he isn't the first to be re-used from SG-1 to Atlantis...of course he is one of the characters which most of us know and so he is most obvious to us that he has been re-used.
Maybe he was out of work and so they decided to give him a part?

Posted by: AAFN Apr 11th 2005, 7:04 AM

They have seemed to do it alot, even in SG there was characters who have the same actor.

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 11th 2005, 7:24 AM

Carter-Hot...apparently they re-use a lot of actors and he isn't the first to be re-used from SG-1 to Atlantis...of course he is one of the characters which most of us know and so he is most obvious to us that he has been re-used.
Maybe he was out of work and so they decided to give him a part?

They have seemed to do it alot, even in SG there was characters who have the same actor.

Posted by: Carter-Hot Apr 11th 2005, 2:24 PM

Did you all notice the tree-plant on the balcony after the city raised to the surface?

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 12th 2005, 1:20 PM

Did you all notice the tree-plant on the balcony after the city raised to the surface? 

Posted by: Christy Apr 14th 2005, 2:22 AM

even the ancients wanted to have some kind of decorations around the place.
and i guess as dafmeister said...the shield would have kept it from being washed away.

Posted by: Carter-Hot Apr 16th 2005, 3:56 PM

Actually it would have got washed away when the city rose up to the surface. Forgot about that? The shield collapsed, the city instantaneously rose up, we can see this by the fact that the central tower was the first to reach the surface with water washing over the building, not the doom of the shield as there were no shield but the building, therefore the tree would have been washed away.

There's my point, Daf.

Posted by: Monty Python Apr 16th 2005, 4:14 PM

the city rose as the shield was critical not down

at the start of rising was there a flashback to the ancient times cuz i missed the first 10 mins can someonene tell me where to download it from

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 16th 2005, 4:47 PM

Posted by: Christy Apr 21st 2005, 1:42 AM

monty, we are not to discuss where we can download episodes as it is illegal to download and by saying where to download we could be putting this site at risk of being sued for something else which is not their fault.


Maybe the plant had some protection? it was nailed into the floor, perhaps?

Posted by: Carter-Hot May 29th 2005, 8:50 AM

Click for Spoiler

But in 'Before I Sleep' Janis said that he set a failsafe that made sure Atlantis would rise to the surface before the power in the ZPM's were totally depleted. I would have thought that Janis would have made sure the shields held until Atlantis had surfaced.

Posted by: Ringbearer Jun 19th 2005, 11:06 AM

I just saw that this one and the part two of this one and i really loved it. I didn't get to see it the first time. I liked the part where bekett sat down and turned that thing on(i forgot what it was called). hahaha. I also like the part where sheppard sat in the chair and turned everything on!!hahaha.

Posted by: GalileoAce Jul 5th 2005, 1:24 AM

I know that Ayianne (sp) is at the very beginning, but the other Ancient... Doesn't he look like Apophis?

GA

Posted by: corins_babe Jul 17th 2005, 6:51 AM

OMG!!!! In England, on terrestrial TV they have started showing episodes of Atlantis!!! The first episode was brilliant!!! And they left it on a cliffhanger so that you wonder what or rather who the Wraiths are!!! Spectacular!!!

And Major Shepperd...... nice work, casting agents!!!

Posted by: KH786 Jul 29th 2005, 4:34 AM

I thought the first episode of Atlantis was brilliant. Visuals were great. New characters were also good especially Frank Sheppard who was hilarious.

Posted by: Dafmeister Jul 29th 2005, 7:13 PM

Posted by: colone? Aug 8th 2005, 6:26 PM

I myself found Rising (Pt 1) to be a great premier. It was really worthwhile telling my family 2 shut the F**K UP!!!

Posted by: stargate_addict Aug 19th 2005, 11:38 PM

I wish that i could've actually listend to this episode more then i did, because my cousin came in to this most hyped episode and desided to tell a freaking story right in the middle of the tv. I'm so mad, but what i saw of it was magnifficent.

Posted by: Christy Sep 20th 2005, 8:52 PM

In my opinion Rising was better than the SG-1 series premier, it seemed to be of a better quality.
The chracters were all so cute and they look good together and the start...Seeing Daniel wanting to go to Atlantis and seeing Jack...it was a good way to start the new series.

Posted by: Auntie Em! Nov 24th 2005, 4:14 AM

So I was watching my DVD of this episodes and I was like I could never understand when people were talking about the ancient from SG "Frozen" and how she is in this episode. I always looked and could not see find her. Seeing the DVD version I now realize that TMN must have cut the whole first scene out of the episode. Everything up to the SGA title shot.

Very cool scene. The guy standing with Annya was suppose to be her husband and he was played by her husband in real life. Nice tidbit there. Nice to finally see it. Also did not realize they showed Atlantis taking off from the Antarctic. Also cool.

On the commentary they said that David Hewitt was not originally thought of when it came to the role that they did auditions for it. They said they than thought of him and that they might end up with him. HELL I could not imagine the show without him. Weird.

The whole "Rising" was all suppose to be from the perspective of Shep and nothing else but they changed it. I am glad they did.

Posted by: Mac.Fan Dec 28th 2005, 4:39 PM

Satrgate Atlantis has finial came to new zealand on DVD. I just watch this episode. Jack and sheppard almost got blown out of the sky by one of the glowy thing, sheppard having the gene, a diffrent Dr weir. well at lest it is intersting beginning. Daniel work out the gate address and wanted to go, but Jack saying no. atlantis under water, a new enemy, the waith. I'm looking ford to watching part two. I think it was Jack first time going down to the chamber sine he was frosen. chilli. LOL

Posted by: blackbelt83 Jan 29th 2006, 7:50 PM

I had my doubts about it at first but I was very pleasantly surprised. I dint read every thing so I am not sure if someone pointed this out but the guy who played DR. Wiers boyfriend played nireim in SG-1

Posted by: Dafmeister Jan 30th 2006, 10:58 AM

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Posted by: Dafmeister Mar 6th 2006, 5:40 AM

TPTB is the powers that be - writers, producers, directors, etc.

Posted by: sgcl librarian Mar 26th 2006, 4:13 PM

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Posted by: thefirstone Apr 3rd 2006, 12:18 PM

Why didnt the ancients just fly their city home?

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 3rd 2006, 12:32 PM

The city was under siege. They couldnt fly it anywhere.

Posted by: SA-1 Apr 3rd 2006, 12:47 PM

not picking a fight with anyone but daf could they have just not jumped into hyperspace from the planet we have seen a hyperspace window open up in atmospheric conditions before.

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 3rd 2006, 12:52 PM

We dont know if they could enter hyperspace in the atmosphere. We have only seen it happen once and that was in the upper atmosphere. We also have no idea how much power they had left in the ZPMs, it was never said that any of the ZPMs were full. Plus if it had one back to Earth there would be no Stargate: Atlantis.

Posted by: SA-1 Apr 3rd 2006, 4:31 PM

thats true daf (no stargate: Atlantis nooooooo) just wondering if it would have been possible

Posted by: Aticus Apr 3rd 2006, 7:42 PM

QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 26th 2006, 4:38 PM)

That's because Sam is a character on SG-1.

Posted by: fan_83 Apr 4th 2006, 1:12 PM

actually mckay himself believe carter to be the better geek in a season 2 episode

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 4th 2006, 1:45 PM

Possible 'Grace Under Pressure' spoilers:

Posted by: thefirstone Apr 4th 2006, 1:56 PM

I think theyre massively superior shields could have held out long enough to jump into hyperspace.

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 4th 2006, 4:15 PM

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Posted by: SA-1 Apr 4th 2006, 5:11 PM

Ok don't shoot me but if the ancients had a ok supply of ZPM's could'nt they just rotate them like keep 2 in and when they are getting low put another one in quickly so mabye they could have had enough power for a few minutes to power up the engines and enter hyperspace?

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 4th 2006, 5:38 PM

That would be dependant on whether they had spare ZPMs. 'Before I Sleep' spoilers:

Posted by: SA-1 Apr 5th 2006, 12:35 PM

ok daf thanks for that info

Posted by: thefirstone Apr 9th 2006, 5:36 PM

but if they had all three zpm theyd have enough power to launch the city, and how do we know that the zpm from egypt was full so to speak?

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Posted by: Revan Feb 26th 2007, 4:24 PM

Melia's hologram welcome speech:

"... in the hope of spreading new life in a galaxy where there appeared to be none. Soon the new life grew and prospered. Here, as before, we built a system of stargates so the fledgling civilizations could travel between the stars... exchange knowledge, and friendship. In time, a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form. Then one day our people set foot upon a dark world where a terrible enemy slept. Never before have we encountered beings with powers that rivaled our own. In our overconfidence, we were unprepared and outnumbered. The enemy fed upon the defenseless human worlds like a great scourge, until finally, only Atlantis remained. This city's great shield was powerful enough to withstand their terrible weapons, but here we were beseiged for many years. In an effort to save the last of our kind, we submerged our great city into the ocean. The Atlantis stargate was the one and only link back to Earth from this galaxy, and those who remained used it to return to that world that was once home. There, the last survivors of Atlantis lived out the remainder of their lives. This city was left to slumber, in the hope that our kind would one day return."

Posted by: Dafmeister Feb 26th 2007, 5:10 PM

Thanks for that Revan but it doesn't really help the ZPM discussion going on.

Posted by: Revan Feb 26th 2007, 7:17 PM

So the discussion is that the ZPM Ra had was already mostly depleted, or are you talking about the Proclarush Taeonas one? In S3 of SGA:

Posted by: missmisschief Mar 25th 2007, 12:28 PM

I have noticed that no one has mentioned the classic Jack move of rolling the bottle of champange through the stargate. I just couldn't help smiling when I saw that.

Posted by: cdpage Oct 1st 2008, 10:04 PM

QUOTE(missmisschief @ Mar 25th 2007, 1:28 PM)

I have noticed that no one has mentioned the classic Jack move of rolling the bottle of champange through the stargate. I just couldn't help smiling when I saw that.

Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 2nd 2008, 12:51 PM

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