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Posted by: Arcady Nov 9th 2004, 4:56 AM

Episode 11 - The Eye
Air Dates - Canada: Nov 8 2004, UK: Dec 21 2004, US: Jan 21 2005

Major Sheppard plays a dangerous game of cat and mouse with soldiers who have seized control of Atlantis and taken Weir and McKay hostage.
(Part 2 of 2).

http://www.sg1archive.com/atlantis/s1.shtml#111 | http://www.sg1archive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7487

(This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

Posted by: Muskusrat Nov 9th 2004, 2:13 PM

Well it was a nice episode. Some strange thing about it which do not seem logical but hey I had fun watching it. Wonder how the Atlantis people will now get around now that all there C4 and medical supplies are stolen. Maybe we see some of that in future episodes.

Posted by: Zoidman Nov 9th 2004, 3:44 PM

Posted by: SGx Nov 9th 2004, 9:49 PM

Not a bad episode. Lt Ford was actually used more and the interaction between McKay and Weir was pretty good. The shields at the end were sweet.

SGx

Posted by: LoneWolf84 Nov 10th 2004, 12:19 AM

AWESOME EP!!! God I love atlantis. Those Weir/Shep shippers will be happy, and the McKay/Weir shippers...good ship fest...that's what i hated about it. I'd say all the actors did a MUCH better job this ep than in any ep. Weir was convincing for once, Ford finally stood up, McKay was honest...heh. Shep was good asusual, Teyla was much better than normal. The only one who didn't do better was maybe Beckitt, but then again, he was suppose to be a chicken s***. the show really has great potential, this ep was just a great way to start off the second half of season.

Posted by: Christy Nov 10th 2004, 1:03 AM

you guys don't give out much info do you?
i'm dying to know more about this episode.

And how did they end up stealing all of medical supplies and C4? As Zoidman said, i thought Sheppard had hid it from the Genii?

Posted by: Raxor Nov 10th 2004, 2:56 AM

can anyone say great ep, loved the fight between teyla and the other person, too bad weir didng get shot. great effects and a sweet story

Posted by: Linz Nov 10th 2004, 4:05 AM

I loved this episode. The bickering between Ford and Beckett was a nice addition. Although Weir didn't die, boo. lol. McKay did a MUCH better job of bluffing than Weir... she sucked at it.

In response to the C4/med supplies question, I thought Sheppard was only able to hide the C4 from the Genii. They were taking a lot of stuff... but some of it didn't make it through when they got shot.

Posted by: Raxor Nov 10th 2004, 10:18 AM

Posted by: Stargate SG-1 Bott Nov 10th 2004, 6:55 PM

I liked this episode alot, One thing i wasnt so sure about is why would the SG1 people behind held hostage technically be allowed back so easily?.

Stargate.Atlantis.S01E11.WS.PDTV.XviD-SFM If you wanna download it always get releases from LOL or SFM, those release groups rock

Chris

Posted by: anja Nov 13th 2004, 4:37 AM

They did take some boxes, about 6.

But that tsunami hitting the shield ?and then just split in half?were did all the water go, it should have splashed over the ?dome-shield? or something.


Stargate solves pollution?dial a gate with a shield dump you?re garbage?and its gone like 55 of the Genii.

Posted by: Carter-Hot Nov 13th 2004, 6:31 AM

I liked this episode the city shield was impressive, and I too though the water would wash over the dome, but maybe the steepness of the shield forced the water to run down it? The best scene was when there was an incoming wormhole, and Sheppard activated the gate shield, 55 thuds, FANTASTIC!

Out of 10... an 8

Something tells me the next episode won't be that good or would I be wrong? Ooohh

Posted by: Christy Nov 13th 2004, 7:02 AM

this episode, well for me anyway, was the best yet.
i only saw it today, my sister taped it for me.
The acting was so great.
and that ending, with what happened between shepard and weir...i so thought he was going to hug her...
maybe there will be a bit of a romance between the two of them.
But Teyla, when they were splitting into groups...she wanted to go with him...so it's like, for me at least, she wants to be with him.
Hmm...i cant wait for the next ep.

Posted by: Evo Nov 13th 2004, 3:31 PM

The episode was great. It had a nice conclusion at the end.

Posted by: Christy Nov 14th 2004, 1:03 AM

No, i think it is Teyla who has a thing for Sheppard, I don't think it is a mutual thing though. I think that he just thinks of her as a good friend.

Posted by: coaldat6 Nov 14th 2004, 10:31 AM

During "the Storm" episode, Teyla suggested that the genii must have had help in knowing how and when to come through. But in the "eye" they didn't discuss it at all. And all the rest of the Atlantis group came back through the stargate like nothing happened. I want to see Sheppard take a jumper to the genii and the guys who called the genii (forgot their name) and teach them a lesson.

Wouldn't it have been cool for Sheppard to find a way to beam kolya right into the jail cell where they kept Steve...

And I was a little upset they didn't somehow use the city's technology to defeat the genii.

And finally, Beckett is a wimp, but don't go overboard. He's one of the best and brightest Earth has sent to a distant galaxy, he's got to have some degree of courage.

Posted by: Evo Nov 14th 2004, 11:19 AM

Posted by: dr_n_tesla Nov 17th 2004, 7:13 AM

Whoa!!! That was sooo cool!!!

I guess it seems that the shield generators do have energy buffers that can store the power of at least several large lightning strikes.

Super conducting hallways are sooo cool!! hehe

I was surpised that McKay configured the shields to be raised fully over the whole city. But seeing the size of the wave, I believe he didn't have time to calculate a recalibration of the shield settings and just went for 100% size and power and crossed his fingers. They were lucky!

Funny how we can clearly see the shield and the one on the stargate when operating even when nothing is in contact. Unlike the Goa'uld or Asgard shields which only become visible when under attack and it only shows at the points of impact. The strength of the Ancient shields must be enormous by comparision. Only the holding cell shields are weaker because we couldn't see it until Steve touched it, then again it's for holding disarmed prisoners.

I can't wait till next year to see this episode in HDTV in Australia!!! I'll have a new wallpaper!!!

Posted by: Drizzt's Syn Nov 17th 2004, 7:16 AM

Great episode!

Loved how Beckitt got KO'ed...while he was talking. Lesson learned, finally, I hope

Nice 2 parter overall, this episode certainly had quite a body count though. 55 people - poof!

Poor Weir, her reaction to Sheppard shooting was priceless. Starting to like her, now.

Posted by: JaffaKree Nov 18th 2004, 4:05 AM

I like Sora. I think having a character like her around could help the show. Especially with that rivalry between her and Teyla. Hopefully they don't give her back immediately and let her stick around for a while.

Posted by: Krystian SG1 Nov 18th 2004, 11:55 AM

So many Genii died.

And its all because that dude coyla(or something like that) told Sheppard Weir was dead. If he say she was alive, he wouldn't of killed so many people.

Posted by: ted_simple Nov 21st 2004, 3:52 PM

You gotta love this episode not only for its suspense, but also for the impressive atmosphere. When I turned my sound system on... well, the storm raged through my modest room.

Atlantis and Battlestar Galactica have turned out so great!! They make Enterprise look pretty outdated. LOL, when they had Brent Spiner as a guest star, he was the best actor on the show. And The Eye has proven that Atlantis is also outstanding in fight scenes.

Posted by: PAL Nov 23rd 2004, 8:13 PM

What surprised me about this was the writers' willingness to kill so many Genii. It was a good move. In SG-1 they seemed to never kill anyone who was human. At least not directly. Sheppard went around killing Genii, and had blood on his mind even after he found out Weir was alive. You see this when he tells Ford to shoot to kill. This combined with the storm, created a darker atmosphere that really worked. And unlike on SG-1, were the bad guys were predominantly alien, Atlantis is producing a long-term recurring human enemy, something that looks to be much more promising than some NID covert ops.

Posted by: jmstacey Nov 23rd 2004, 10:26 PM

Posted by: dr_n_tesla Nov 25th 2004, 10:13 AM

Posted by: Christy Nov 25th 2004, 9:55 PM

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Posted by: fan_83 Dec 21st 2004, 5:03 PM

anyone thinking that sheppard's gonna rig up a small nuke and send it to the genii to show them how to build a nuke ??

Posted by: Dafmeister Dec 21st 2004, 5:10 PM

Posted by: Child of the gods Dec 21st 2004, 5:18 PM

Good fightscene, better if not interrupted!
(world premier, HAH)

Good sequel to an OK(film copy) prequel. Seriously though, weir: QUIT. She wanted to return that ginger wifie to the genii. One word: WTF?

Finally, Shepperd should have shot the guy in the control room when he had a chance. And teyla should have killed the Ginger wifie. Lastly, i was soooo happy when they closed the iris on the 60-man company...
Body Count : 55+3+4=62..... Not bad for 40 minutes....

8/10

Posted by: The iris Dec 21st 2004, 6:19 PM

this episode rocked, an all out shot out and lots of death, with a decent story as well. i think it would be funny if they sent a nuke to the Genii with a note saying "this is how you build a nuke." *boom* so what do you guys think, will the Genii be back again soon or wount they

Posted by: JC1 Dec 21st 2004, 6:44 PM

This was the best episode of Atlantis so far. Sort of reminded me of Die Hard, with Shepard running around Atlantis ruining the bad guy's plans and trying to save the hostages.

We haven't really Shepard in many combat situations, but he was pretty ruthless in this episode, showing no hesitation in killing any of the Genii, even though they still had hostages.
Teyla's fight scene was also good, who knew she was so handy with a knife.

I hope they don't return their Genii prisoner. It's hardly going to make them allies considering all the soldiers they lost. Beside's the Genii seem to be a treacherous, self centered race. Would you really want them as allies?

Posted by: Parmenides Dec 21st 2004, 6:56 PM

Phwoar!

Everything stepped up a gear!

I was so glad to see Teyla kick Sora's ASS - was refreshing to see an "easy" fight, where it wasn't always "Oh no, whoever shall win!?"

The Beckett/Ford bickering didn't really do it for me though...Ford seemed too harsh on him, and Beckett seemed too whiny! Enter Teyla, Mediator Extraordinaire!

All in all, I thought the Storm/Eye dual ep was a corker - the Storm set the story up well, and the Eye brought all (or most - why were the Athosians returned so willingly!?) to a good conclusion. Excellent acting by all!

I agree with what's been said before - the dark atmosphere of this episode created by the Shield Massacre and Sheppard's willingness to kill really set this episode apart from anything that has been before, much like The Other Side did for SG-1.

Posted by: invisible painting Dec 22nd 2004, 2:35 PM

Yeah it was a good episode is suppose. No major complaints and it was good.
Although i realise im not taking atlantis seriously!! I cant take it seriously just seems too unrealistic i guess is a good word. Maybe thats why ive been off a bit lately, itll imporve though im still gonna watch and get the DVDs. But a good episode but not as good as this weeks SG1, but thats been the case most weeks.

High rating / 10

Posted by: hawkes Dec 23rd 2004, 5:57 PM

I've got to say i thought this episode was great. A nice way to wrap it all up in a believable way, none of those quick solutions happening to make it all right in a moment.

I've got to agree with what Parmenides said about Ford seeming a little too harsh on Beckett. But i didn't really have that much of a problem with it, it kind of showed Ford's inexperience with leading and handling those who he is supposed to be leading.

And Sheppard, now i am liking the way he was in both the Storm and this episode. It's good to see a more darker response to the situations than was has been on SG1 for the last few weeks. And it's good to see that Sheppard is moving away from the shadow of an O'Neill type character. It's good to see that he can do what is needed to settle a situation, no matter what.

Overall a great episode, i can see good things for Atlantis if it keeps going the way it is.

Posted by: Jack_Mackle Dec 24th 2004, 8:21 AM

Okay, if the episode does not air until January 21, and it had to be downloaded to view it. Where can I go to download it?

Posted by: ali Jan 11th 2005, 2:51 PM

I liked it. The guy who was threatening to shoot everyone looked really familiar...this might be a really stupid question but has he been in anything else?
I liked the way that Sheppard got away from all the people following him and how he was sort of playing a game with them, and also how Ford actually took control for once (although neither of the people he was ordering around were millitary...
I'm also a Weir/Mckay shipper now. *waits to be shot* I know he was just trying to save himself when he stood in front of the gun but I know there's something there
Overall I thought this was a really good two-parter. But I think they could have actually shown Mckay being tortured..it would have made the ep quite dark (which I like) and would have been great for all the people who really hate him.

Posted by: BrandonTheGreat Jan 13th 2005, 9:49 PM

Obviously, the highlight of this episode is the Teyla/Sora fight. It was great to see Teyla almost kill Sora. As she was the only Genii they took captive. But killing the 60+ people was another good shot by Sheppard. Hopefully this will teach the Genii a lesson. Sending the nuke through the gate would have been a great idea.

Posted by: Desideratum Jan 16th 2005, 3:41 PM

I don't see why everyone is shouting "kill Weir." She is a decent character, and she is competently portrayed. I have considered Ford to be a useless character and this two-parter confirmed it for me. Constantly putting the doctor down was unacceptable. Also, I think McKay's divulging of information was perfectly natural. How long do you think you'd hold out if someone took a knife to your arm? The way Sheppard disposed of the enemy soldiers was reminiscent of Rambo; I quite liked it.

Kolya asks about someone named Aidos, after Sheppard engages the forceshield. I assumed that was his son, but didn't hear any further mention of it. I wonder if it will be addressed in upcoming episdoes.

There are a few things about this two-parter that annoyed me. For one, at the beginning of The Eye, Sheppard appears to be far more wet than he was at the end of The Storm. Additionally, it looks like Carson has gone from freshly-shaven to rather stubbly. This is most likely a function of their production schedule, but I wish it had been better dealt with.

Finally, call me vengeful, but I do feel that SGA should have taken actions in retaliation, to retrieve their medical supplies, and to make it known that it is unwise to attack / betray them.

All things considered, though, it was an excellent two-parter.

Posted by: linda_lol Jan 21st 2005, 11:50 PM

This was the greatest SG Atlantis episode I have ever seen and I'm really impressed. The graphics were amazing, humor between Ford and Beckett couldn't have gotten better, and the action was cool.

I wouldn't call it the highlight but it was pretty important. I figured they'd eventually fight. As for the Genii, they're definitely their enemies now ( like they weren't before, but they probably really hate em ). If they flipped about one death goin down the drain, how'll 100 feel?



Me neither, she's obviously a great character. The whole kill idea is really starting to get annoying. If they don't like her, then what do people actually expect out of her?

Posted by: RJLCyberPunk Jan 22nd 2005, 12:27 AM

First of all neither Teyla nor Sheppard would ever kill in cold blood like that! That a was a kill or be killed situation but once Teyla had subdued the Genii there was no reason for her whatsoever to kill her!

Regarding Weir, she is a consumate diplomat she will always try to find a way if possible to make a deal or an arrangement! Is what diplomats do!


Overall I loved this episode the Genii are as devious as the Ashen in fact I wonder if the future there might an alliance between the 2 most evil human empires in 2 galaxies!

Posted by: MYOB Jan 22nd 2005, 12:51 AM

OK. I chose not to download this ep so I only just saw it tonite.
For one thing the show turned sour for me when the writers obviously started to pull rabits out their buts to make plot elements work.
Shep' was using his ancient tracking device as was Ford, Teyla, and theDoc, and they both used them meticulously and constantly knowing that anyone could pop around a corner and catch them.
Then, as soon as they catch up to each other they suddenly stop using them?
They then start walking through the city and never once returned to using the device in order to see if anyone was nearby????
My brother and I noticed this instantly. Like "Hey?! You were using it like your life depended on it, and it did, and now you've decided to 'rough it'?"
What was obvious is that they chose to suddenly stop use them so the writers could put in the Teyla fight scene. The writers got really sloppy there with a major inconsistency.

Next. Why didn't Shepperd go after Weir and McKay the moment he turned off the power to the control station with the other tracker the genii were using? He could have saved them both and put a much more serious dent in the works? He had the tracker? He would have seen how many there were with Mckay and Weir.

The show was good for the first 45 minutes until Shep' met up with Ford and the others then it seemed like the writers were trying to find something snappy to let them end it quickly. Like they had run out of interesting ideas to close out the story?

I give the first 45 minutes or so 9/10 but the last 15 minutes gets a big fat zero.

Maybe I'm just getting bored with the stargate series after 8 seasons but I'm starting to see the plot devices and writer-loopholes with much more regularity than I did in the beginning. Maybe it's might fault but I'm also wondering if the writers themselves aren't simply running out of ideas for both show. Either that or they aren't as good at thinking of endings as they used to be.

Posted by: daffy Jan 22nd 2005, 2:38 AM

why was there a wall of water (100's of miles?) long 2 miles high going 1000mph in the middle of a deep ocean? pretty much vertical too


good episode tho 8/10 overall

Posted by: mithwriter Jan 22nd 2005, 2:04 PM

Wow wow wow

That was a great episode, especially once they got the jumper back to Atlantis and everyone was running around playing 'cat and mouse'. Loved the action, and (I don't believe I'm actually going to say this ) I liked Weir in this one. All the scenes with her, Rodney and Koyla were really well done, and I gotta give much respect to these actors fo getting absolutely soaking wet for their jobs. ...and act...and play with whatever props in hand...wow.

I loved how the city became one big superconducter, and the VFX of the energy shooting through the city were fantastic, as were all the storm effects.

I also loved how harder-edged this ep is. I was thinking a few oh sh*** when the shield went up and all those Genii were dying against the energy field coming through.

The fight scene between Teyla and that other woman was really well staged and cut together, especially the beats in between their moves when they sized each other up.

Great ep.

Posted by: Aquila Jan 22nd 2005, 5:11 PM

Yay! The U.S. has finally gotten the new episodes! This episode was superb, the graphics, the acting, the plot line...and everything else that went along with it, stunning! I have to say this episode had some of the best graphics that I've seen on TV shows in a while...breathtaking.

As well as the development of key character's relationships/capabilities such as Teyla and Sheppard. It really kept me glued to my seat.

Posted by: Carter-Hot Jan 23rd 2005, 7:47 AM

When McKay told them remaining people in Atlantis to head to the Control Tower because the high electrical charge that will be running throughout the conduits of the corridor will kill anyone that's there.

Then what about the athosians that are in the Puddle Jumper after Teyla told them to stay there until she tells them they can help?

Sure they may be safe in the Jumper and may be protected from the raw power but then why all rush to the Control Room? What about those in the Jumper?

Posted by: nitesoul Jan 23rd 2005, 10:05 AM

i'm pretty sure that the puddle jumper bay sits ontop of the control tower, ^^ the rush to get to the control room was just to back up shepperd when he was about to attack the genii

Posted by: Dafmeister Jan 23rd 2005, 11:20 AM

One of them did state that because the Jumper hanger was part of the main control tower those left in the jumper would be safe while the lightning travelled through the city.

Posted by: TurtleTracks Jan 23rd 2005, 12:31 PM

I don't think it was 100's of miles long and 2 miles high going over 1000mph. I'd clock it at maybe 100 miles long and 1/2 mile high or so, perhaps 400mph. The reason such a wave could happen in the deep ocean is that this wasn't a wave caused by an underground earthquake where the wave must reach shallow water to become visible on the surface. This was a wave whipped up by the high wind velocity of the storm on the surface.

Posted by: ancient01 Jan 24th 2005, 7:54 AM

I have to say I liked the fact that the writers wern't afraid to kill off so many Genii. That's realistic. Someone in Sheppard's position with his training wouldn't likely hesitate to kill any and all of the people he killed. Unfortunately, at least in US television, networks seem to to avoid killing that many people. Let's face it, though, it's war and people can't just be knocked out and politely sent home through the stargate. My $.02...

Posted by: CitizenK Jan 25th 2005, 2:26 PM

Maybe it's me, but I was disappointed by the Eye. I just don't think it lived up to the hype of a mid-season cliff hanger. I thought the Storm was much better. I felt there was more suspence.

Now, there were parts that I enjoyed. I enjoyed seeing McKay being a good guy for a change or rather, he was more herioc than normal. And I thought his response to Weir about how was doing at the end was classic McKay i.e. except for the fact that he hadn't eaten a good meal in 24 hours that he was fine. I wouldn't have expected anything less than McKay thinking of his stomach. loved that.

Felt that Robert Davi was wasted as the Genii Commander. Towards the end, his stand off with Sheppard was too cliche. You knew that Sheppard wasn't going to allow him to kill Weir. Although, I'm sure many folks here wished they had. Weir did seem less shrill than in the first part. okay... But, everything ended too cleanly.

gee, what a surprize, Teyla and Sora have a big confrontation fight scene (which wasn't bad at all), but surprize, Sora sees the error of her way at the end of the fight and seeminly joins the Atlantians because of Teyla's humaine treatment of her.

Nah... that wasn't right. Too easy. Too pat. She blamed Teyla for the death of her father. there should have been more animosity. didn't like how easy their tense situation was resolved.

Do like Major Sheppard. He is evolving as a character. Felt bad for Lt Ford. He isn't getting a whole lot to do, is he ?

I mean, not a bad episode, but not great either. I think part one was better. I'd say 6/10.

Posted by: attack Apr 9th 2005, 10:20 AM

Episode 11 - The Eye
The Genei wanted to take over atlantis because they want to find out about Ancients? Kuliya said: "You believe your people who are not even of this galaxy are closer to the Ancients then we are?". So why are they intrested in Ancients?

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 9th 2005, 10:31 AM

The Genii believe that because they are from Pegasus they have more right to use the technology of Atlantis. They didnt beleive that the Atlantis team had the right to take over Atlantis when the Genii were physically closer to the Ancients.

Posted by: Christy May 18th 2005, 7:38 AM

but really, arent humans more closely related to the anicents than the genii are?
i still cant figure out if the people in the pegasus galaxy are descendants/relations of the ancients.

Posted by: Dafmeister May 18th 2005, 9:45 AM

The only humans that are direct desendants of the Ancients are those with the Ancient gene.


We dont know if the humans in Pegaus were created by the Ancients or if they were the children (so to speak) of the Ancients. I'd say that they were created by the Ancients as it doesnt seem that any of the Pegasus humans have Ancient gene.

Posted by: cosmos May 21st 2005, 6:35 AM

Really liked this episode. Kept me guessing on a lot of things. Build up some good character-relations and emotional states.

Shown how everybody copes with change and threat, how they react under untested circumstances and when their usual roles have changed.

I liked many elements on the show. I have to admit that Atlantis is starting to grow on me, even more so than SG-1, had.

I liked the way Kolya was portrayed. Gave some true dimension to his character. Though ruthless and mean to the Atlantians, he showed actual concern for the well being of his people. He identified indivinduals among the lost and have shown that he is scared.

Usually in TV the central bad guy is a lunatic red devil who wouldn't care much but for his own ass and plans.

I liked the responses and emotions portrayed by Sheppard with regard to saving the lives of his own people. In the end by any means possible, any sacrifice if only they would live. Especially with regard to Weir I might add. I liked the way he said I am going to kill you to Kolya and then before he move on how he almost lost it; from the rage and the feelings of loss.

The only thing I didn't like was the celebrity death match between Teyla and Sora. It didn't have the feel of fighting to the death, rather a feel of demonstrating their martial arts skills to each other.

Especially, when there was a time constraint and eminent danger that both new. It just don't make any sense fighting their little fight, right then, taking their time. Especially when in the control room at the same time, there was this different vibe of tension and breathlessness which was the right mood under the circumstances.

All else was realistically expressed I think as a TV show allows of course.

And perhaps a little nit-pick? If massive waves of electricity passed through everything in the whole city except the control room, shouldn't their ammo, explosives,... (at the very least) blow up. Perhaps even taking a part of the city with it.

Posted by: Sighfienerd May 23rd 2005, 6:58 PM

I thought that scene with Sheppard was excellent as well, Cosmos. I tend to think of him as a little light sometimes. He's handsome, he's physical, he has resolve, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of convictions. I liked him showing agony over the fate of Atlantis, his team, Weir. It made his character more real to me...the first deep suffering I've seen marring his classically beautiful features. I thought he was spendid.

Posted by: JohnSheppard May 25th 2005, 8:09 AM

I think Ford really came into his own on this episode, having to basically be in charge of a unit when it came to finding Sheppard. It showed him to be more than 'just a soldier', you could see his potential for going up in the ranks.

Posted by: Christy May 29th 2005, 12:52 AM

Yeah but Ford still didn't do much for me.
He still seems like a mummy's boy who is riding on the coat tails of others and so he's a baby.
Oh though he is really young and that brings me to another point...why is someone who is so young out in a different galaxy?
Shouldn't they have done a psych test before everyone went through to Pegasus?

Posted by: General Jen May 31st 2005, 1:04 AM

this episode was ok, 7/10.

weir did well in this two parter and even though mcay is usually really cool but he was a bit of a loser in this ep.

sheperd is fantastic, so is carson but ford is just so annoying

teyla should have beaten up that genii girl just a bit more because she was such a cow.

looking forward to next ep

Posted by: blackbelt83 Jan 31st 2006, 2:55 AM

I really liked the episode especialy when macky and wier are seperating the grounding station. that was great. I did really like waching shepard hunt the genii.

Posted by: Seshat Feb 4th 2006, 4:01 PM

A very good 2 Parter, but did anybody else notice tht Mckay's Bandage was on the outside of his jacket?

Emma x

Posted by: sgcl librarian Mar 27th 2006, 10:14 PM

Bigtime conjecture here, but....

I wonder if the Jumpers have a tractor beam? If so....I'd fly a Jumper through the Stargate to each offending planet, tow each Stargate out of the offending planet's atmosphere, and leave it in space where its orbit can not degrade, and blow up when entering the atmosphere. Then, Sheppard can use the Jumper's Stargate controls to activate the Stargate in outer space, fly through, and return to Atlantis...No more planetary travel for the Genii and their friends on the other offending planet.

Cool courage while under professional pressure is usually related to the amount of experience at some profession. Dr. Beckett is very brave when treating patients due to his long-term experience in the medical profession. For me at least, he is acceptably cautious or nervous when asked to use stealth, non-medical technology, battle, and pursuit skills.

Posted by: Dan70 Jul 29th 2006, 3:37 AM

I really really liked this episode!! I have seen atlantis up until the end of season two and i would have to say this is my fav.

Posted by: IndyJan Jul 27th 2007, 2:25 AM

I don't think I would call Ford a mama's boy, and riding on the coat tails of others.

Ford is boring because he is very 1-dimensional. He is the second in command after Shep. Yet, Ford is still very much "golly-gee" about everything. For Ford it's a hoot, an adventure and he's not taking anything seriously.