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Posted by: Arcady Jul 20th 2004, 7:44 AM

Episode 3 - Hide and Seek
Air Date: (US) July 23, 2004

The Atlantis base is threatened when the team discovers that an alien entity is in the city. McKay's experiment with alien technology goes awry

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(This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.)

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 10:01 PM

McKay is hillarious! That was a great episode!

Posted by: fahadwajid Jul 23rd 2004, 10:01 PM

did you see those visual with Mckay in the dark mist , the energy bieng, at the end.
man that looked cool.

i am however sad to say that this was a much better and much more interesting episode than todays sg1 episode

Posted by: Bowley Jul 23rd 2004, 10:04 PM

Not a bad episode, more humorous than anything else. Which is not a bad thing. Gotta say I like Mkay, even though everyone thinks he's an A-hole... Was it a coincidence or did the new Sg-1 episode and the new Atlantis episode have similar plots...you know scary floating fog...you see from its point of view... I dunno. Still want to see where this series goes. For some reason the theme song reminded me of Seaquest...but I don't know why...hmm (no sarcasm)

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 10:06 PM

It's kind of cool how SG-1 and Atlantis dealed with similar problems the same week. I thought it was cheap at first but now I realize it's brilliant. We have an hour of SG-1 dealing with an ascended Anubis and then we see an hour of the Atlantis crew dealing with the being Ancients were studying to figure out how to ascend! Both shows compliment each other!

Posted by: bob is almighty Jul 23rd 2004, 10:07 PM

I didn't realize the connection until you pointed it out there. I guess it's true.

Posted by: Jackal Guards Rule Jul 23rd 2004, 10:09 PM

Yes my Dad mentioned it looked like Anubis and I just laughed. Anyway Mckay is great. "Dead man talkin.", "We're all gonna be dead, or shall I say you are because I'll already be dead" (something like that)

Posted by: Bowley Jul 23rd 2004, 10:09 PM

Yea, they compliment eachother...in that way, but not once in either new episode did SG command say anything about how they thought the Atlantis team may be faring. Or the Atlantis team wondering about SG command. Although Shepperd does talk about various things back on Earth this episode.

Posted by: ShadowCat Jul 23rd 2004, 10:13 PM

Hah Hah! I loved the part where McKay just passed out and Sheppard was thinking 'yup, he fainted. What a weakling' I do like this McKay/Sheppard interaction.
But what about the father of the Thosian (can't spell or say it) boy said something like "nothing matters but my love for you" or some thing. I mean was that not one of the cheesiest lines you have ever heard. They could of at least come up with something else like "Nothing else matters but you. You are my only son and I love you."
Oh well, just some quirk that I have with that big guy.

Posted by: Reignfire Jul 23rd 2004, 10:14 PM

As I said in the SG-1 803 Discussion, I think Anubis/Ghost's vision was done the exact same way.

I like how we know now that the Ancients have transports and how they isolate a lab section without being separate from the city.

[EDIT]BTW, I thought McKay was hillarious in this episode and how they tested the shield, lol![/EDIT]

Posted by: Aquila Jul 23rd 2004, 10:14 PM

I just saw the episode today, as far as Stargate goes, this one rates in the average...just like SG-1.

One thing I noticed was the apparent humor that the episode had, as well as the knowledge that was gained from it.

1. The entity shown on this episode is an entity that has been trapped for who knows how long...the purpose being experimentation/observation by the Ancients...and early form of "ascending" as we know it. It appears that the Ancients were even then trying to figure it out. We know of course they finally did, but did the Ancients of Atlantis?

2. The boy's father and apparently the rest of the Athosians know how to speak (to some degree) the Ancients tongue, as is seen in this episode. However, they call the Ancients, "The Ancestors." This proves that colonization of these worlds by the Ancients did occur, it would seem that the Ancients created the Stargates to make colonies of their race (on a lesser degree of technology) on different planets...as was hinted on the last episode by the hologram.

3. The SG-A team seems to have been able to synthesis a blood transfusion of some sort to let the other members of the team to access the Ancients tech to some degree. As was demonstrated by Mckay in this episode by the shielding devise he wore. It was also hinted in this episode that through this gene indose, that the same "controlling with ones mind" results.


It should be intresting to see this show develop. I noticed this time the opening music to SG-A, and approve of it. Different, but hey, one can't conform always to everyones wants. I for one liked the opening sequence alot. So, here's to SG-A!!

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 10:15 PM

They've got their own problems to worry about. When the turtle broach fell off McKay I nearly fell on the ground laughing. That was so damn funny! The expression on his face. McKay for Prime Minister of Canada! Couldn't be worse than what's already there.

Posted by: NemesisDesignz Jul 23rd 2004, 10:15 PM

Ya I posted on the SG-1 forum about the similarities in the plots. I also agree that Atlantis show was a lot better than the SG-1 today. I am loving the comedy and smart comments they have on Atlantis. I still think Dr Weir seems like a stuck up BIATCH. She just always looks hateful.

The transport rings within the city is kickass!! I wish I had those in my house. Atlantis is gonna have to utilize every alien device they find...especially the weapons. Eventually they are going to run out of bullets for their guns and will be screwed unless they have other weapons.....or start up a munition factory there in the city making the bullets, guns, etc.

Posted by: Reignfire Jul 23rd 2004, 10:18 PM

Are you sure it was transport rings? It seemed to act more like the Asgard transporter, but that's just me.

Posted by: NemesisDesignz Jul 23rd 2004, 10:24 PM

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 10:29 PM

The Ancients used transport rings in the Milky Way. It did sound like transport rings. It's a more advanced version like everything in Atlantis.

It's kind of cool how they keep discovering tech. Hey, you know how we've been using the stairs all the time? Seems those aren't really closets. They're transporters that can take you to any part of the city.

I hope things keep going that way. I hope two years from now when Atlantis is the most watched show in the history of television they're still finding things like that.

Posted by: JadedStar Jul 23rd 2004, 10:31 PM

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Posted by: NemesisDesignz Jul 23rd 2004, 10:35 PM

Posted by: Reignfire Jul 23rd 2004, 10:36 PM

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 11:21 PM

Even though they were advanced enough to team up with the Ancients to fight the Goa'uld, the Asgard likely got a lot of their tech by analyzing the information they extracted from the Ancient repository so a lot of tech in Atlantis might look similar to Asgard tech.

Posted by: fahadwajid Jul 23rd 2004, 11:28 PM

since when can wier translate ancient, when she translated the prayer

Posted by: infra172 Jul 23rd 2004, 11:51 PM

When they introduced her character on SG1 they said she speaked a bunch of languages. Maybe she's a quick study.

McKay: Size doesn't matter.
Shep: That's a myth.

Posted by: Raz Jul 24th 2004, 4:43 AM

I thought that the episode was very good and Atlantis is getting on it feet very well. Everyone that said Atlantis was gonna be crap was wrong *I am of course simply referring to the first 3 eps but they are definitely good!* Can't wait for the next few episodes....
AND McKay is funny....i like the way he encorporates humour into Atlantis!

Posted by: servicepack Jul 24th 2004, 6:42 AM

I thought the device for capturing/ attracting the "shadow" was much like the episode of SG1 where they start seeing those large catepillars walking around and they have to quarrentine the whole area.

I also generally enjoy episodes that take place off world instead of lurking around the base. I was hoping to see more gadgets if they were gonna stay in the base the whole time.

Posted by: mithwriter Jul 24th 2004, 10:11 AM

I missed the Premiere eps (except for ten minutes or so at the end when Robert Patrick's character got killed), so this is my first one, and I must say I liked it quite a bit, from the opening sequence on. It had some genuninely honest character stuff that the SG-1 ep shown that same night was missing....yes, I too also liked how the two stories complimented each other. Very cool.

I'm not that familiar with the characters yet, but I would expect there to be some rough spots since these are new characters and everyone (including the actors/writers) have to get used to them. I'm willing to give them the time based on what I saw.

The standouts for me were McKay and Sheppard, with some of the Scottish doc thrown in. I was actually laughing when Sheppard pushed McKay over the balcony, then they mentioned that wasn't the first thing they had tried...including shooting him..er...in the leg...

The ep was well paced too, and since I don't read spoilers I was always interested to see what was going to happen next. Very impressed with McKay turning the thing back on and going into the depths of that entity. The look on his face before doing so as he made the decision was terrifc.

Posted by: aliaras Jul 24th 2004, 12:11 PM

I have to agree with Mith on this one. In some places I thought it was better than the SG-1 ep, partially because I'm still discovering what the pace of Atlantis is. It's similar to SG-1, but there are differences that I'm getting used to. I am surprised at how much I like atlantis and the plots.

The humor in atlantis is especially good, even without RDA. If TPTB could pull that type of thing off on stargate, I would root for a season 9.

Posted by: Ra. Jul 24th 2004, 2:39 PM

Oh my! What a disappointing episode. At the moment the main cast are not gelling very well and the support cast seem very wooden, badly acted and miss-cast. It almost reminded me of an old battlestar galactica type of episode, with ships full of refugees, or in this case a city. Dont get me wrong the story is solid but the script and the support cast let it down in a big way. I would consider this on a parr with Sg-1's 'Emancipation' or maybe I was just expecting too much after last week's premiere. I know its a new series and it takes a while for the cast to click but lets hope they get it together quite soon and get on with it.

Posted by: RJLCyberPunk Jul 24th 2004, 7:01 PM

I though the episode was a little lackluster as compared to the pilot, but we shall see how it goes. I hope to finally at some point & the sooner the better, Teyla finally kicking alien butt as promised long before the show began. So far sadly she has been kind of relegated to the role of a supermom or something like that.
Would gene theraphy really work as fast as it did in that ep.?

Posted by: Wyvar Jul 24th 2004, 7:08 PM

Great episode, really liked it.
McKay was awesome

Posted by: soma_momma Jul 24th 2004, 7:10 PM

Okay, am I the only one who thought the black cloud was a much cooler villain than the Wraiths?

Hmmm....any chance that the black cloud was really Anubis, and after it/he went through the gate he dropped in on the Russian in the space station?

I don't know about having 3 Jacks. I'd say it's more like it takes the 3 funny guys on Atlantis to equal 1 Jack.

Posted by: Firefly Jul 24th 2004, 9:42 PM

I thought the episode was kinda boring, but maybe because I had just seen an episode with the whole black cloud thing right before this one. I was like "Hey, it's Anubis." I do like the humor, though.

Posted by: GuNdj Jul 24th 2004, 11:21 PM

I liked this Episode more than this weeks SG1 Episode. I'm really looking forward to Atlantis next week

The humour was great! I found McKay extremely funny... I thought he was ment to be an ass like he was on SG1. His interactions with Sheppard were great too... "I shot him! ...in the leg". The look of glee on Sheppards face when he said that was awsome.

I really like the talk about Ascention too. Knowing that the Ancients actually researched the possibility of Ascention is very interesting.

I didn't really like the theme song that much... Not as catchy as SG1's. Hopefully it will grow on me though. I also thought the intro sequence could have been better, more shots of the gate and such. But its the episode itself that matters, and that was great.

Posted by: seymour Jul 25th 2004, 12:51 AM

I really really need for Dr. McKay to come up with some far-fetched explanation about why all the human natives (descendants of the Ancients?) and the Wraith can all speak English with 21st Century American grammar and vocabulary (why not modern day Spanish or Mandarian?).

Perhaps the real reason General O'Neill turned down Daniel Jackson's request to go to Atlantis is because with everyone speaking American in the Pegasus Galaxay there would be no need for a linguist. (Did Dr. Weir even bring one?).

Since the universal translator has not been invented we can't have the usual Star Trek explanation. What is even more insane is that none of the characters seem at all suprised to be able to understand each other completely. I know this is an old SG-1 bug but this is a new chance to explain.

Why do the Wraith have human-like bodies and female breasts? I suppose the parrallel language development came with the boobs.

Atlantis makes RDA seem very old.

Posted by: PAL Jul 25th 2004, 1:44 AM

I liked this episode. Since I saw it before SG-1, I didn't find the shadow repetitive. I liked how this related to ascension, and that they are still discovering new things in the city. I also like McKay, he was great. I suppose I've always liked his character, but moreso on Atlantis. I hope they can figure out how to make the shield work again, and since only McKay can use it, they won't overdo the invincibility thing.

When Tayla suggested letting it go, I thought the address dialed earlier in the show was the shadow dialing its homeworld, and that they were going to send it there. I was apparently wrong, but I think it would've worked better since the shadow was sentient.

Posted by: The Doctor Jul 25th 2004, 4:16 AM

I thought that Lockdown and Hide and Seek were very similar-must have been writing them in parallel! MacKay was funny and it was moderately enjoyable.

Posted by: Sal'tesh of the Tok'Ra Jul 25th 2004, 6:58 AM

So far i like Atlantis. Good story, nice the way it was related to SG1 plot.

I have to say i already have a Favourite character McKay. He is so funny. And i like the Scottish Dr. him and McKay have a good comedic Combo. Little bit like Jack/Daniel. The part where the green shield thingy fell off was funny. McKays expression.

Posted by: SG1Papa Jul 25th 2004, 10:43 AM

Posted by: toddy67 Jul 25th 2004, 1:14 PM

Good first single hour episode to start the series,looks like it will follow the same format as SG-1,atlantis based episode one week,then an offworld based episode the next week.

Thought the dialling sequence at the end looked pretty cool,although am still a big fan of the animated chevrons locking into place on the sgc computer.

They should have sent the entity to the Wraith Gate,it might have solved two problems at once.

Posted by: The Doctor Jul 25th 2004, 1:39 PM

Except it would be floating in space rather than doing any productive Wraith killing... and the wraiths may be able to beat it.

Posted by: SG1Papa Jul 25th 2004, 1:55 PM

Posted by: mithwriter Jul 25th 2004, 2:02 PM

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Posted by: Puskaryssa Jul 26th 2004, 3:58 AM

I really enjoyed this episode, more than the SG1 ep actually. Im definately going to watch the upcomig atlantis episodes, even though it can be a pain in the ass to d/l them

Posted by: seymour Jul 26th 2004, 10:15 AM

Did I really see the Scottish Doc hang up his stethoscope after examining Dr. McKay who had his personnal shield activated? As if the stethoscope get through the shield when nothing else could. Oops.

The new Doc is the most natural and believable character on Atlantis.....aside from his "successful gene therapy within hours"! He would have been a good replacement for Dr. Frasier on SG-1.

Posted by: mr_d8a Jul 26th 2004, 12:48 PM

Missed...pilot...Tivo on fritz...VCR not go that high in channels!!!

Ok, I feel better now.

I remember reading somewhere that you could download these episodes. Can someone supply the link/links needed for this?


or I could be interested in exchanging money with someone for a copy, either DVD/VHS, of the pilot in the St. Louis area. Please PM me if you are interested.

I liked Hide and Seek as did my wife. We are both suckers for well done humor.

I liked the shield thingy, but I'm glad it was drained. It could have been abused way too much.

As for the Wraiths...from the previews and the sneak preview show, they remind me of the Time Machine Morlocks, the more recent movie.

James

Posted by: Timerider3 Jul 26th 2004, 2:51 PM

Man, if I were on atlantis I would have beeen running around all day knocking McKay over and pushing off the catwalk and everything. lol

Posted by: Kromando33 Jul 26th 2004, 6:11 PM

well i loved it, very good, but hopefully we will see some other alien races like more allies & enemies, it's actually very likely that the replicators are in the pegasus galaxy seeings their everywhere , even in that unchartered galaxy in exodus/enemies.

Posted by: Faithhammer Jul 26th 2004, 9:30 PM

The episode was quite enjoyable, and they did tie in together quite nicely. Ive noticed that many people share in the feeling that the atlantis episode was better than the sg-1 episode this week. Saying as they tie together with the whole cloud/assended thing I wonder if this was deliberate by sci-fi to get the skeptics of atlantis to become hooked. By comparing two similar topics and making it seem atlantis is the better of the two (this week at least), I think it will insure that more people will watch atlantis as the episodes roll on.

"Dead man talking"

Posted by: mithwriter Jul 27th 2004, 5:55 PM

Posted by: 1969 Jul 28th 2004, 2:14 PM

I liked the episode. The scene with Mckay and Dr. Beckett when hes about to deliver the gene therapy to Mckay was hilarious!!

Posted by: Rancid Monkey Jul 30th 2004, 8:52 AM

um...how exactly did the big alien dude hurt his leg? they did mention that it was hurt by the wraiths
he was walking around fine all the way thru the pilot
most obvious time is when they are all getting into the puddle jumper on the wraith planet, and he would have had to hurt it before as nothing on the ship exploded or anything, hes also standing around in the background of the celebration at the end with no crutches
bit of a continuity boo-boo methinks

Posted by: Reignfire Jul 30th 2004, 3:11 PM

My guess is that he broke his leg in real life. But how do you know the Character didn't trip and fall down some stairs between Episodes 102 and 103?

Posted by: Rancid Monkey Jul 30th 2004, 8:54 PM

actually i take that back...i watched the ep again and they didnt actually say he got hurt in the first episode...they just said "we dont want anyone else getting hurt the way <some name starting with H, sounded like howling, assuming its the big guy> did" (re: playing with ancient gizmos)
you are probably right and the actor hurt his leg and the explanation is that he touched something he shouldnt have

/me will pay more attention next time

Posted by: stargatefreak Aug 2nd 2004, 12:24 PM

I really liked this ep. I think SGA is getting off to a good start.

It was really cool that they keep finding tech things all over the city. I wish they would start exploring more of the city.

McKay was quite funny. I'm beginning to like him, when he was on SG1 I hated him. It seems being on anothor planet brings out his heroic side.

Sheppard's character is shaping up quite nicely. He isn't like anothor O'Neill and that's good.

A strong start overall.

Posted by: CitizenK Aug 3rd 2004, 7:49 AM

I caught this episode last night and well, in general, I thought it was better than "Lockdown". Which was basically the same plot except you had Anubis as your glowing black energy being instead of some unknown sentient being being studied by the ancients.

All in all, it wasn't a great episode. But, it wasn't bad. I did like it better than Lockdown. I've expressed my issues in that thread. What I liked about Hide and Seek, inspite of the fact that this wasn't a strong script, was the humor. I really like Dr Beckett. I didn't realize he was a medical doctor. I thought he was a biochemist or biologist. Having him as a physician gives him some leverage with Rodney Mckay. I loved watching the opening scene where Beckett gives him the shot of DNA. I won't go into how scientifically wrong that was, since you just don't arbitrarily go injecting people with random DNA. But, I loved the fact that Mckay is squeamish.

I really do believe I'm going to enjoy watching those two argue with each other. I think the humor is what kept me interested. It certainly wasn't the suspense. There was no sense of tension. There was no sense of real danger. That black energy blob struck me as being more of an annoyance than a threat. You know, you never felt that the kid was ever in danger.

I do like the graphics. I think Atlantis looks great. But, I'm surprized at how much Weir and the team have learned inspite of the fact that they've only been on Atlantis for a few days. I mean, how did Dr Weir and Mckay become such experts at reading the Ancients language ? I took Daniel weeks to translate one tablet of text in previous Stargate episodes. How did those two become fluent ? I was really surprized to see that Dr Weir was able to understand the prayer the (I forgot his name) tribal leader said in the room.

Did I miss something ? How and where did Mckay and Weir learn fluent ancient when even Daniel and Jack didn't even really know. That's a big leap of faith for us fans to take.

I guess it must go with all those aliens being able to speak fluent English.

Okay... that's my two cents. I'll probably think of more later.

oh yeah, thought of something. Why doesn't Sheppard have a military haircut ? His hair is too long. If he were in the real military it would have been shorn off long ago.

Posted by: taujin Aug 4th 2004, 6:26 AM

Posted by: Gramner Aug 6th 2004, 6:29 AM

One thing i've noticed about Atlantis is that some of the lines are very hard to understand. I mean, I'm finnish and I understand english pretty well (or at least i like to think so) but some lines in Atlantis are almost impossible to make out. In SG-1 they were easy to understand, and even Daniel pronounced stuff more clearly than McKay does. Heck, even the scottish guy in Atlantis is easier to underestand than McKay at his worst.

For example, i have no idea what the opening line of this episode (Hide and seek) was. It sounded something like: "Gonna get trying anyone?"


Could someone translate it to me, please? (It's the scene where McKay is talking to the mouse and Beckett says "Not really")

Posted by: gatenut Aug 8th 2004, 3:53 PM

That thing is scary as hell
who knows what else is in that city

Posted by: row4d Aug 12th 2004, 4:41 PM

Posted by: Mac.Fan Aug 19th 2004, 12:16 AM

They found out more about atlantis. About the elevator that took them to other parts of the city that they didn't know how to get there till now. they even find a container in one of the rooms that they just discovered.

Posted by: Gramner Aug 28th 2004, 3:35 AM

Posted by: Dafmeister Oct 26th 2004, 4:05 PM

Brilliant episode. McKay was hilarious. The scene with him and Beckett at the beginning, him being pushed over the balcony, being punched and the towards the end when he turns on the torch. The look on his face when he turned on the torch was brilliant.

Posted by: Christy Oct 27th 2004, 1:02 AM

it showed a lot of character..like the developing of the characters and i think that in this episode we saw that Sheppard didn't really think highly of Mckay.

Posted by: MajikthizeII Oct 27th 2004, 8:45 AM

Well I think Atlantis has made a very promising start for me. This was a good episode. Very glad they didn't skip over the whole deal about their just arriving and adjusting to living with Teyla's people (having effectively ousted them from their home). The enegry entity thing was pretty good and the story handled well. Glad they didn't take the obvious route and they let the thing go. Got to wonder if tht isn't going to come back and nite them on the backside at a later date though.

Really loved Mckay in this one. He is by far my favourite character, with Beckett probably coming in second. Think we're going to have a nice little double act going on here. Going to have to work a lot on the other characters though, as I'm not really gelling with any of the others.

Liked the way they played the shield thing with humour, and Mackay's obvious attention grabbing tactics at highlighing his plight. Not that you ever really believed he was in danger anyway.

What didn't work so well was the tension they tried to create between the Earth people and Teyla's people. I'm thinking they were trying to suggest a lack of trust between them but it just seemed a bit washed out to me. Didn't really get any sense of trust building or tension from it at all.

Posted by: stargatesweetie Oct 27th 2004, 11:10 AM

I enjoyed this episode though the energy creature/lifeform seemed a little too "Star Trekkie" for my liking-the sort of creature Jean-Luc would have tackled many a moon ago.
Nice to see that there is still enough to keep them entertained in the city and that they are not fighting the Wraith every week.
Plus points for McKay this week-highly amusing

Posted by: ali Oct 27th 2004, 11:37 AM

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Posted by: BrandonTheGreat Jan 13th 2005, 8:05 PM

Not as good as the first episode, but this one emphasizes on two great story lines and how they are put together a the end. Great story so far.

Posted by: Christy Mar 13th 2005, 3:39 AM

i think they could have done better this episode...
it seemed like a slow episode compared to the premiere and while it showed suspense it could have had some better acting

Posted by: Bookworm Apr 3rd 2005, 4:01 AM

Well, I thought this episode was fantastic, if only for that great scene after Sheppard pushes McKay over the balcony. The look on his face is priceless. And the scenes between McKay and Beckett were all pretty funny. And I love the bit after McKay 'passes out' and Sheppard deliberately tells Weir he fainted. Great seeing how all the characters are developing and how their relationships with each other are progressing. oh and the football scene was god but can someone explain to me exactly what a Hail Mary is and why its named after a prayer. I don't watch american gridiron and it makes no sense to me. I mean, does a Hail Mary play refer to something that no-one expects or a last-ditch effort that even the people doing it expect it to fail?

Posted by: General Jen Apr 6th 2005, 7:48 PM

i really liked this ep, especially when sheperd pushed mcay off the balcony and said that he shot him "only in the leg" that was classic, and its great to get the humour like with stargate.

i would have to say that i like the earth style stargate better than the atlantis stargate

iam watching 38 minutes tonight (in australia) we are way behind with america and UK

Posted by: Christy Apr 9th 2005, 1:41 AM

ah, a new user coming into the atlantis series...welcome, welcome!

Yes, that was quite comical when Shep was doing those things to Mckay...throwing him off of the balcony, quite classic really.
and the way they were explaining it to Weir was pretty interesting but unfortunately for me i didn't really get into the episode.
It had a good storyline but for me it just wasn't there, no spark or anything.

Posted by: Dafmeister Apr 9th 2005, 10:27 AM

It had a good storyline but for me it just wasn't there, no spark or anything.

Posted by: Christy Apr 9th 2005, 6:21 PM

hmm, maybe that explains the awkwardness between them all...
but in SG-1 there were some back reasons to why they weren't really connecting.
Jack didn't appreciate females in the way that Sam was working along side him.
But i guess none of them really knew each other and that could explain why they arent...bonding in the scenes.

Posted by: stargate_addict Aug 19th 2005, 11:42 PM

This was a good episode, would've been better if they didnt use the same thing for both sg-1 and sga. I liked at the end how mackay saved every one.

Posted by: cosmos Oct 9th 2005, 3:36 AM

Mackay: "without food I will be dead by the end of the day."

Very funny episode, very good in allowing some interaction between the main characters. What they are like and what they think of each other and allow the team to bond through sharing weird experiences like Mackay and Shep fooling around with that device.

Although, I think they could have found a better way to introduce the transporters into the show.

Posted by: Saffron Dec 12th 2005, 10:03 AM

McKay and Sheppard were both adorable in this epi. They were like two little boys with a new toy in the beginning. McKay was such an A$$ in SG1 and its weird finding myself actually liking his conceited snarkiness here. I honestly don't understand it.

Posted by: blackbelt83 Jan 29th 2006, 7:56 PM

I know few people have pointed theis out but I thought the part when Shepard pushed macky off the balconey was great the only funnyer part was when Dr. wier questiond testing it by pushing him off a balconey and shepard points out that they first tried to test it by shooting him "in the Leg" that was great. I think it was really great how they started to pull the characters together.

Posted by: blackbelt83 Mar 6th 2006, 2:07 AM

I was waching this ep. again and I noticed another part that I thought was really good "I never would have thought you would belive in gohst" " I dint then I learnd about something called a wraith that can suck the life out of you with there hand what the hell is that?" also when he fainted that is just grea I cant get enough of this ep.

Posted by: thefirstone Apr 16th 2006, 9:56 AM

I thought it was a crap epi, except when they were talkin bout the ancients researching ascension and when Shep and Mckay were in the gate room and Shep pushed Mckay off the balcony.