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Stargate Information Archive _ Season 7 Spoilers _ Episode 705 "Revisions"
Posted by: Arcady Mar 11th 2003, 3:30 PM
REVISIONS
The team encounters a planet with a society that has lived for centuries within a computer-controlled environment within a bubble. Outside, the rest of the world is a toxic wasteland.
O'Neill, Teal'c, Sam and Daniel meet the inhabitants, who live very simply (think medieval) but are all linked to the computer through little devices on their head. The inhabitants are friendly, and possibly quite willing to do some trading, so Daniel and Sam go off with a young married couple, while Jack and Teal'c stay with a father and his son. Nevin, the son, begins to hero-worship Jack and wants to be just like him.
SG-1 offers them a better life via relocation to another world, but the inhabitants are oddly reluctantly to leave a world (albeit it very small and restrictive) where everything is provided to them by the computer link. Some of the folk are amenable to leaving, but suddenly change their minds. While Daniel discovers shocking evidence in the townfolks' library, the rest of SG-1 realizes that the computer is altering the inhabitants memories, possibly to the point that the townsfolk could pose a threat to SG-1.
Characters include Council, Kendrick, Nevin, Evalla, Pallan.
#thanks to 'ferret' for the tip
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sg1_spoilme/
Posted by: PAL Mar 11th 2003, 7:47 PM
This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots.
It also reminds me of an episode of the Outer Limits where everyone got hooked up to this network of computers that allowed people to send thoughts to each other and download knowledge. In that episode, the computer wouldn't let the people out and used whatever means it could to kill the only guy left who wasn't hooked up so that the computer AI would never be shut down. Stupid AI's all have self-preservation as their top priorities, and so they refuse to be shut off.
Posted by: OdinisThor'sDad Mar 12th 2003, 1:43 AM
Haha just saw that episode of sliders last night here. On liners and off liners...they hated each other
Good call PAL, but you are Canadian I should have expected as much
Posted by: Vixa Mar 15th 2003, 8:17 PM
is it like the matrix?
or is the like the second episode of "the gamekeeper"?
Posted by: Peta919 Mar 15th 2003, 8:30 PM
| QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 11 2003, 07:47 PM) |
| This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots. |
Which is like an episode of seaQuest called playtime:
The crew are sent 200 years into the future where only 2 kids are left alive. Only these 2 are left because everything was run by computers; therefore, everyone stayed home, played computer games and stopped having sex.
So far we have gone from Stargate SG-1 to Sliders to seaQuest, can anyone link it to a 4th show (how about another one starting with S).
Posted by: Tahira Mar 16th 2003, 11:52 AM
Couldn't get the thing to copy the stupid message. GRRRR. Anyway, somebody asked if there are any other shows that this stroy is similar to. I was thinking that it sounds like aST:NG episode. I forget the title, but it has the planets population genetically linked to the enviorment in which they live. If anyone leaves, it "throws off" the balance of the world.
Posted by: VildAkvarium Mar 16th 2003, 12:36 PM
Daniel is in the first ep? Coolness! I think that the episode of sliders was not on line of line. There is an actual episode where the robots do everything but then end up turning on the humons (there creators). I remember one robot was smitten by Wade.
Chantelle
Ps. im the 3rd for most posts today! whahey!!! lol
Posted by: Bonzai Mar 16th 2003, 1:09 PM
i think is eps should be good one
Posted by: Nemonack Mar 16th 2003, 4:31 PM
| QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 11 2003, 07:47 PM) |
| This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots. It also reminds me of an episode of the Outer Limits where everyone got hooked up to this network of computers that allowed people to send thoughts to each other and download knowledge. In that episode, the computer wouldn't let the people out and used whatever means it could to kill the only guy left who wasn't hooked up so that the computer AI would never be shut down. Stupid AI's all have self-preservation as their top priorities, and so they refuse to be shut off. |
It reminds me of an episode of Stargate where a race of people were living inside a virtual reality to escape until their world had recovered from the impact of their society, however, unknown to them was that the world had recovered long ago.
But seriously, they better make it origonal lol.
Posted by: PAL Mar 16th 2003, 5:43 PM
The computer AI better be smart. All Sci-Fi shows/book series will eventually touch on AI. Most of them predict that AI will be the greatest enemy ever to face humanity. I think that we should stop developing AI in the real world, or at least not make it very good. I'd rather not be stuck in the Matrix or anything like it.
Posted by: OdinisThor'sDad Mar 18th 2003, 9:40 AM
I think all sci-fi eventually does an episode with a computer hooked into the brain society.
Just imagine how convinient that would be...having a computer jack straight into your head......
Posted by: Behenna Mar 18th 2003, 4:01 PM
The Star Trek TNG ep where a whole race is hocked in 2 a computer is called 11001001
and the race need the computer for everything even life suport
In andromeda some of the people in that have ports in the base of there necks so u can just plug it in 2 a computer and access information
Posted by: Romulan Snitch- Tal'Shir Mar 18th 2003, 7:00 PM
they seem like a little off the Borg from startrek, by a little i mean a great amount, but anyway the Borg are half cyborg and half robotic, and are linked together with a collectvie mind, and have no induvidiality. T
They go round assimulating advancded and backward rases to either gain technology or resoursces, or just for the sake of it. There goal is to take over the universe by assimulating every being into there collective.
They assimulate ppl, ships, stations and planets.
and they.....
Hmz got carried away there.
Posted by: Behenna Mar 21st 2003, 6:29 PM
The borg just try 2 bring perfection 2 every race!, thats why they assmilate them!
Posted by: OdinisThor'sDad Mar 22nd 2003, 1:08 AM
If they want perfection they need some wigs and face cream
Posted by: The Gatatran Mar 22nd 2003, 2:37 AM
Ok first Stargate...then Sliders...hmm...then startrek...then andromeda...then starttrek again? i want more SPOILERS!
Posted by: Nemonack Mar 23rd 2003, 6:30 AM
Spoiler: "Best of Both Worlds"
Jack takes command of the Prometheus to meet the Thor, who has somehow left the controls to his transporter on the top shelf and requires the assistance of the Tau're. When Jack arives he is faced by a massive cube shaped vessel and obducted. Cater and Daniel must battle corridors filled with treacle on board Thor's ship as the treacle suppression system is offline, make their way to Thor's quaters and beam O'Neill off. Little do they know that O'Neill has already been assimilated by Readers Digest.
Theres a spoiler for ya.
Posted by: doesitsaycolonel Mar 23rd 2003, 3:22 PM
This has got to be the most hilarious "non spoiler" spoiler column I have read:
re Reader's Digest.. " I am Jack's brain. Hello..... it echoes rather a lot in here...."
Although this is all begging to be deleted as off topic I am sure that a new topic entitled spoilers for episodes that should never happen may be popular.
The STNG episode was to do with environmental balance not so much computer stuff where some bod fell in love with Deana? It sounds a bit like the guy who " invented" the idea of cyberspace William Gibson?? was it and Neuromancer?? Meant to be one of the basics of the Matrix. This could have interesting implications about whether SG1 should destroy the "perfect world " set up - non interference? So if done from a different point of view with a twisty turny thing at the end it could be good.
Posted by: Here_and_There Mar 24th 2003, 8:35 PM
Hi all... New here but not new to SG1...
What about the movie Logan's Run.. Everything in the movie was run by computers..
Posted by: Riotgirrl Apr 7th 2003, 7:35 PM
Well, since everyone is talking about what this episode reminds them of, has anyone ever read Orson Scott Card's homecoming series? This episode sounds reminiscent of it, or of Arthur C. Clark's "City and the Stars"
Posted by: ColonelJackO'NeillRocks May 8th 2003, 10:25 PM
Ok, this sounds like a good ep but what hell went wrong with the forum? by last post, I was SOOOOO lost, I did not know what the forum was about....FOCUS ppl....FOCUS......
Posted by: SSJ4_Gogitta Jun 14th 2003, 7:51 AM
I would SO love to see a short, maybe 3 minute Stargate ep.
The stargate begins an incomming dial, the alarm sounds. Hammond in the control room orders the iris to close, but it has malfunctioned. the 7th chevron locks and the whoosh goes, as several personel in the gate room all have their guns aimed at the gate. Suddenly Quinn, Rembrandt, Arturo, and Wade suddenly step out of the wormhole, and yell "WE'RE HOME!!!"
OR mabye anoter short where the same thing happens, only this time Sam Becket steps through it, sees the guns, and goes, "Oh boy...."
Just wishfull thinking... 
Posted by: SaiKoTiK-GuNMaN Jun 16th 2003, 11:23 PM
| QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 16 2003, 05:43 PM) |
| The computer AI better be smart. All Sci-Fi shows/book series will eventually touch on AI. Most of them predict that AI will be the greatest enemy ever to face humanity. I think that we should stop developing AI in the real world, or at least not make it very good. I'd rather not be stuck in the Matrix or anything like it. |
Ok, the 3 Laws of Robotics set down by Asimov are probalby not going to be put to use, since AI and Robotics are in the hands of business and government.. both of which tend to be... less than concerned about morality...
Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics:
#1 A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
#2 A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
#3 A robot must protect its own existence, except where such protection would conflict with the First or Second Law.
If those laws are(or can be) applied, AI/Robots will never take over the earth. But, if it is true AI, nothing really can 100% block it from making its own intelligent decision to disregard the programmer... Ok.. I just argued myself out of my own argument... Talking to myself too much does that...
Ok, let us use the Butlerian Jihad from Frank Herbert's Dune... They had to wrestle power back from machines that had been empowered with AI. The result was simple, humans naver again relied on intelligent, or remotely close, machines to do their thinking for them. Humans formed castes, one ofwhich is the Mentat, or human computers. The Mentats assist their employer(lack of better term), and can think like machines, with near perfect problem solving and logic.
So if AI ever did come to that level, and we had to fight them, the end result would make our species better for it... or possibly nothing but some historicaldata on a harddrive somewhere...
But humans would have been intelligent(questionable) longer than machines would have, so a possible advantage could come of that point... Maybe not though, and we'll probably have commited mass suicide/homicide/genocide and eliminated ourselves by then anyway.
*So the main threat to ourselves will always be humanity.
And do you realize how off-topic this ended up...
Okay... I'm done... Well, not really, but ya know...
-SaiKoTiK GuNMaN ????-
*I am all for war, violence, death, doom, destruction, so i am just stating a fact.
Posted by: LadyLuna Jun 28th 2003, 10:26 AM
I only have one thing to say:
Who the f*ck came up with PINK biohazard suits?
Posted by: Ares Jun 28th 2003, 10:31 AM
| QUOTE (LadyLuna @ Jun 28 2003, 10:26 AM) |
| I only have one thing to say: Who the f*ck came up with PINK biohazard suits? |
Um, Luna, those suits aren't pink. They look more like a...uh..."hot" red color. Maybe more like a maroon. Not exactly camaflouge material. I guess the good ole SGC is cutting back on their several billion dollar budget.
Posted by: LadyLuna Jun 28th 2003, 10:33 AM
Really? Maybe it's my eyesight but I see a fucshiapink type color....
Posted by: Ares Jun 28th 2003, 10:36 AM
Or maybe it's my computer. But from my end it looks hot red...er...maroon. We need someone else's opinion. Red or pink?
Posted by: Aesir Jun 28th 2003, 10:37 AM
They look red (bordering on maroon) to me too. Maybe your monitor's resolution and colour depth are making it look different to you.
Anyway, I thought biohazard suits were supposed to be bright coloured? Not sure why I think that - must have got it from somewhere though. Most of those types suits I've seen have been either white or yellow...
Posted by: LadyLuna Jun 28th 2003, 10:40 AM
It's probably just me, I can't find one of my contacts so I'm half blind right now anyway.
Posted by: apexad Jun 30th 2003, 5:04 PM
What I want to know is how this episode has anything to do with the ancients, the search for the lost city, or the closing of any hanging non-plot stores in previous seasons.
Also, I want to know how the hell the ashrak that killed Jolinar is now a well liked member of a society connected to a computer. (note the hint of sarcasm, and the laughing about how they re-use extras)
Posted by: OdinisThor'sDad Jul 1st 2003, 1:19 AM
| QUOTE (Aesir @ Jun 29 2003, 12:37 AM) |
| They look red (bordering on maroon) to me too. Maybe your monitor's resolution and colour depth are making it look different to you. Anyway, I thought biohazard suits were supposed to be bright coloured? Not sure why I think that - must have got it from somewhere though. Most of those types suits I've seen have been either white or yellow... |
Nope you are right. Biohazard suits are always bright. They are supposed to draw the eye so you see them and go "OH sh*t" and then run.
They are meant to be seen
Posted by: BastiSito Jul 5th 2003, 3:45 PM
| QUOTE (SaiKoTiK-GuNMaN @ Jun 16 2003, 11:23 PM) |
| Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics: #1 A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. #2 A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. #3 A robot must protect its own existence, except where such protection would conflict with the First or Second Law. |
Actually, Asimov later adapted a law "0", which is above all other laws.
0) A robot may not injure the humand kind, or, through inaction, allow the human race to come to harm.
Obviously this allows a robot to harm or kill human beings if it serves a "gretaer good", the good of the human kind. Anyway, with or without the 0th law, a mashine can decide that human beings must be protected from themselves - because their irrationality is almost certain to harm them.
So, even with this "morale" of the three Asimov's Law, AI ist inevitably forced to take control over the human kind.
Well, not as "clear" as it seems, hum? MAking three laws and everything's alright doesn't work.
Posted by: ramuund Jul 10th 2003, 1:55 PM
the colour of the suits looks red and that non-spoiler was hilarious- but whats happened to all the real spoilers and how we get so lost!! 
Posted by: spacemonster Jul 13th 2003, 1:35 AM
This episode was bit boring, yet another gratuitous use of a little kid. Raised a lot of stupid questions for me like how come they didnt notice all those skeletons before they even got into the dome? Wouldnt the Malp have at least run over a few of them?
Posted by: SyStEm_LoRd Jul 13th 2003, 3:11 AM
bright moroon ish. for the suits. and wats this about the dude thta killed sams tok'ra?
i cant even remember if he survied or not..
Posted by: Arcady Jul 13th 2003, 3:57 AM
| QUOTE (SyStEm_LoRd @ Jul 13 2003, 04:11 AM) |
| bright moroon ish. for the suits. |
Could you repeat that, in English?
Posted by: SG1nut Jul 13th 2003, 3:31 PM
| QUOTE (LadyLuna @ Jun 28 2003, 10:33 AM) |
| Really? Maybe it's my eyesight but I see a fucshiapink type color.... |
Uh... Yeah, it's your eyesight. They're red-orange in colour.
Ep was a bit boring too- "MYGODDIDIJUSTSAYTHAT?"
But I thought the kid was very cute!
Awww... "I'm Colonel O'Neill from Stargate command."
Posted by: Sam's_twin Jul 14th 2003, 2:16 PM
All this talk of the color of those suits just begs for you all to be reminded to adjust the color on your TVs. 
Posted by: Catherine Oct 28th 2003, 3:07 AM
| QUOTE (SyStEm_LoRd @ Jul 13 2003, 03:11 AM) |
| bright moroon ish. for the suits. and wats this about the dude thta killed sams tok'ra? i cant even remember if he survied or not.. |
nevans dad looks like the geza that killed jolinar also i may be going mental but isbt nevan charlie not as in jacks kid but the one from show and tell. well it sounds like him at least
Posted by: Major Sam Carter O'Neill Oct 28th 2003, 10:02 AM
See i thought they were red on the tele(which is brand new) but on that picture i can definetely see how they look pink. my feeling check your pc!! On this episode pretty average wouldn't rush to watch it again but still not one of the worst!
Posted by: Aesir Oct 28th 2003, 10:57 AM
| QUOTE (Catherine @ Oct 28 2003, 09:07 AM) | ||
nevans dad looks like the geza that killed jolinar also i may be going mental but isbt nevan charlie not as in jacks kid but the one from show and tell. well it sounds like him at least |
Right on one, wrong on the other. I can see the similarity between Charlie and Neven though...
Charlie from 'Show and Tell' was played by Jeff Gulka, Neven from 'Revisions was played by Liam Ranger. Peter LaCroix did play both the Ashrak from 'In the Line of Duty and Neven's dad (Kendrick) though.
Posted by: Catherine Oct 29th 2003, 2:23 PM
| QUOTE (Aesir @ Oct 28 2003, 10:57 AM) | ||||
Right on one, wrong on the other. I can see the similarity between Charlie and Neven though... Charlie from 'Show and Tell' was played by Jeff Gulka, Neven from 'Revisions was played by Liam Ranger. Peter LaCroix did play both the Ashrak from 'In the Line of Duty and Neven's dad (Kendrick) though. |
cheers
Posted by: Carine Oct 29th 2003, 3:38 PM
I love this episode. Mainly because of its content. It's full of reflections about conventions, liberty of the mind and the void which can be created by the fact to begin think by ourslves in opposition to the gregarious instinct..woa!
this is what i like in stargate it is not only entertainment .some episodes just like this one provide us with a real reflection..
Thanks Mallozzi
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