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post Jan 19th 2003, 12:03 PM
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Season 2, Episode 12 - The Tok'ra (Part Two)
Original Air Date: October 9, 1998

The Tok'ra have turned down SG-1's request for an alliance against the Goa'uld because, as Garshaw explains, the people from Earth don't offer enough rewards to justify the security breech. And, the fact that none of the humans will act as host for Selmak, a Tok'ra whose host is dying, does little to build trust.
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post Jan 19th 2003, 12:37 PM
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jacobs back but he looks a little peeky anyway this episode is my 2nd fave and j.r.bourne is so cool wasnt it sweet how him and sam were bonding hes so cute tongue.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30th 2003, 11:07 AM
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Wicked Jacob, hes great, does anyone else dislike the Tok'ra though, I mean they just seem to hide information from us, until it is nessisary, and we tell them everything straight away!!! how un fair, we must of proved our aligence by now!!!
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post Jan 30th 2003, 12:17 PM
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It was weird how they swich symboyic sick.gif
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post Jan 30th 2003, 2:51 PM
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QUOTE (Pearce1340 @ Jan 30 2003, 11:07 AM)
Wicked Jacob, hes great, does anyone else dislike the Tok'ra though, I mean they just seem to hide information from us, until it is nessisary, and we tell them everything straight away!!! how un fair, we must of proved our aligence by now!!!

i dont like the fact that the tokra hide things from us but the great for a laugh and you can never turn down jacob and martouf because jacob hes just funny and amazing and martouf hes just fit and sexy.
but i dont like anise. dry.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 1:01 AM
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Interestingly I've never thought of the Tok'ra as DELIBERATELY hiding things, just that they don't come completely forward. They only say what is important to them without realising we may see things differently.

One case in point when Danny was to blow up all the System Lords and rescue the galaxy (Jacob, a Tok'ra assumes he will), but Danny wants to save one blonde chick - just a case of two people seeing the same thing in two different ways.

In case you're interested, I woulda blown the bimbo up with the rest of them, there are bigger things at stake as Jacob says.
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post Feb 8th 2003, 4:05 AM
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i actually think the tokra have opened up a bit since jacob joined because of the father and daughter realationship between him and sam and plus jacob lets them know they can trust sg-1 and gen.hammond.
i think they were just hiding stuff because they wanted to be careful who they trust because they didnt want ppl like the gould trying to wipe them out.
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post Feb 9th 2003, 5:10 AM
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I agree ussshorty, but to take it further perhaps just having someone (ie Jacob) in their midst that understands the psyche of humans and what is important to them (ie openness and honesty) has helped the situation along.
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post Feb 9th 2003, 9:34 AM
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yeah i suppose it is useful because what hes in his 50s maybe 60s and hes married , had kids and been widowed he totally understands human emotians and he can share them with the tokra.
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post Feb 10th 2003, 2:42 PM
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That and he can add to the understanding of a race that has not been ruled by the Goa'uld for the last 3000 years. Remember that virtually everyone else the Tok'ra is running into has been virtually a slave for a long period of time. It's hard to trust those people. But those on earth think and act more independantly, and Jacob brings a perspective on that which is new to them. It certainly helps.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 12:11 PM
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people on earth tend to look for safe but effective plans against the gould but the tokra go straight for it and lose many lives for moving to fast so earth and jacob could teach them a thing or two.
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post Feb 16th 2003, 2:54 AM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Feb 9 2003, 10:34 PM)
yeah i suppose it is useful because what hes in his 50s maybe 60s and hes married , had kids and been widowed he totally understands human emotians and he can share them with the tokra.

Errr there's more to humans than 50 year old married guys with kids. I was thinking more along the lines of chiroho.
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post Feb 16th 2003, 5:28 AM
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yeah but he can give the tokra a general idea of human life and then he can start giving them the serious side of things thats all im saying.
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post Feb 17th 2003, 4:21 AM
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yeah i suppose so , but somehow i dont think jack would be intrested in that laugh.gif
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post Feb 21st 2003, 3:32 AM
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Why wouldn't he? He's a military man and needs to understand both the enemy and the ally - whichever the Tok'ra turn out to be.
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post Feb 21st 2003, 7:49 AM
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O'Neill has always been a little untrustworthy of the Tok'ra - and occasionally with good reason because they don't always provide the entire story. I think that he'd be more than interested in any information that Jacob Carter could bring to the table regarding them and what they are doing - especially since he's not only a former AF general, but someone that General Hammond obviously knows and trusts.
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post Feb 21st 2003, 3:14 PM
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umm jacks not exactly the biggest tokra fan if he had to learn about them id think hed need summin to fiddle with or summin to keep him amused
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Abyss (606) doesn't help with his opinion of the Tok'ra. But maybe his mistrust is foreshadowing the Tok'ra being evil? We know how his intuition always turns out to be correct.
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post Mar 12th 2003, 1:01 PM
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some ppl just dont trust the tokra cause theyre to secretive.
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post Mar 14th 2003, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Mar 12 2003, 01:01 PM)
some ppl just dont trust the tokra cause theyre to secretive.

Ya but usually those that Jack mistrusts turn out to be evil.
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 6:56 AM
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i wreckon he didnt trust martouf and he wasnt evil till divide and conquer and plus he mistrusts anise but hey i would to.
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post May 5th 2003, 11:07 AM
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Why does Selmaks' snake look like a dwaf?
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post May 11th 2003, 3:39 PM
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do you mean its previous host b4 jacob?
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post May 12th 2003, 4:13 AM
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Actually, Morg999 have a point. Selmak did look too pink and too short for the symbiotes we know of.
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