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| Arcady |
 Jan 19th 2003, 12:12 PM
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Base Commander  Group: Admin Posts: 4,952 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male  |
Season 2, Episode 2 - In the Line of Duty
Original Air Date: July 3, 1998 The SG-1 team is on a mission to Nasya, hoping to rescue the survivors of an attack by the Goa'uld. During the rescue, Dr. Samantha Carter's body is taken over by a Goa'uld that was hiding in the body of a mortally injured Nasyan. Carter is confined to a cell, while O'Neill bargains with the Goa'uld for her life. |
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| ussshorty |
Jan 19th 2003, 12:16 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
ok this is one of the best stargate episodes ever and probaly the 3rd best of season 2.amanda tapping is brilliant isnt she
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| AOT |
Feb 9th 2003, 8:20 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 812 Joined: February 4th 2003 Member No.: 543 |
Why was it good? I found it a bit slow, but yes she was quite good in this ep. I guess it was another one of those "had to show" shows to fill in the details of our understanding of Goa'uld.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 9th 2003, 9:07 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
what do ya mean its excellent the acting is brilliant they communicate with a new alien through sam they have to consider the descision whether to let one of the own members go and whether or not to trust this jolinar or mulkshour.
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
Feb 14th 2003, 9:38 AM
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ASSgards are pussies!  Group: Moderators Posts: 7,208 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
How can this be the 3rd best of season 2 if it is only the second episode?
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| ussshorty |
Feb 16th 2003, 5:04 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
uh because its my 3rd favourite from season 2  |
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| ussshorty |
Feb 17th 2003, 4:01 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
uh my faves from this season are
1)tokra pt.2 2)tokra pt.1 3)in the line of duty havent decided on 4th and 5th yet |
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| Major Gmed |
 Mar 8th 2003, 11:24 AM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,243 Joined: March 5th 2003 From: Ayrshire, Scotland Member No.: 979 Gender: Female |
This episode was great. It had you wondering what was going to happen to Sam as we were led to believe that it was a goauld that had took her over. The acting from Amanda was excellent and had me wondering what side she was on.
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| ussshorty |
Mar 9th 2003, 6:03 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
the scenes when youve got each individual member of sg-1 talking to sam god how brilliant wa sthe lighting i loved the atmosphere of that scene because most ppl thought she was a gould the effect was brilliant just have a bit of light on the bottom of her face and have the rest in the dark and the camera angles were terrific.
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| PAL |
Mar 9th 2003, 10:07 AM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,259 Joined: January 16th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 368 Gender: Male |
I never noticed this before, but the one scene where Sam/Jolinar walks into the gateroom and swings her head is the scene in the openening credits.
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| ussshorty |
Mar 9th 2003, 2:08 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
 what  anyway i would love to have a little more insite on jolinar it would be handy for my upcoming stargate website. |
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| PAL |
Mar 14th 2003, 10:50 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,259 Joined: January 16th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 368 Gender: Male |
For a Tok'ra, Jolinar sure didn't act like one. She didn't blend with Sam at all, but instead supressed her mind. If she blended with Sam then she would know all that the Tok'ra know. |
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| Major Gmed |
Mar 15th 2003, 11:26 AM
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Major Group: Members Posts: 1,243 Joined: March 5th 2003 From: Ayrshire, Scotland Member No.: 979 Gender: Female |
I think Jolinar didn't blend with Sam because she wouldn't blend with an unwilling or unsuspecting host.
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| chiroho |
Mar 15th 2003, 8:30 PM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 603 Joined: February 1st 2003 Member No.: 535 |
Well there must have been some blending that occurred otherwise SC would not have had any of the memories - the same as O'Neill had no memories of Kanan after the symbiote left his body in Abyss. But we know that SC did have some knowledge of Jolinar. This is how she knew how to find the Tok'ra, knew who Martouf was, and was able to control, albeit in a somewhat haphazard way, Goa'uld healing and hand devices. She also brought out a lot of her memories of Jolinar in, strangely enough, Jolinar's Memories from season 3.
However, I will say that the blending was not complete, as SC's understanding of the knowledge was vague and incomplete. But remember that it takes time for the host to learn the knowledge of the symbiote - for example Jacob Carter, although truly blended, didn't immediately know everything that Selmak did. So it could simply have been that there was not time for SC to learn what Jolinar knew. On the other hand, I'll definitely agree that the behaviour of Jolinar did not seem typical of the Tok'ra. But then she was in a situation where she had no familiarity with anything or anyone, and was on the run from an Ashrak. And we all know what they're really capable of from the episode Allegience. All she wanted to do was go somewhere that she could find a new host and leave SC. Perhaps that is why she didn't act in the typical manner of the Tok'ra. |
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| ussshorty |
Mar 21st 2003, 4:25 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
i wreckon the guys should of tried and trusted it more cause i know it was jolinar but hey i think a little bit of sam was actually still in there.
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| Aceuss |
Mar 31st 2003, 7:36 AM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: March 25th 2003 Member No.: 1,198 Gender: Male |
It would've been very difficult for them to trust Jolinar after going through the experience with Kwalsky's Goa'uld. Remember how he acted like he was Kwalsky and that everything was fine? What proof did they have that Jolinar wasn't doing the same?
One thing I was dissapointed at is when the Ashrak killed that security officer at the SGC entrance. When he walked through an alarm went off, yet you'd wonder how come that alarm didn't go off in all of the base. Have that been the case maybe they would've been able to protect Jolinar from getting executed. Yet I have to admit that Jolinar died in an honorable way. |
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| ussshorty |
Apr 1st 2003, 10:53 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
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thats true, do u know the tokra let their hosts speak whenever they want well i would of thought that jolinar would of let sam speak a bit more. |
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| Firefly |
Apr 20th 2003, 7:37 PM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: April 6th 2003 From: Maine Member No.: 1,304 Gender: Female |
This is one of the very few episodes where Sam calls the colonel Jack, but it doesn't really count because it was Jolinar talking.
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| Catherine |
May 5th 2003, 10:23 AM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: March 15th 2003 Member No.: 1,115 |
i really like this ep. its well good.
i think its wel sweet at the end when they bring in cassie cos sam is all depressed etc n cassie stays wiv like when sam lookd after her. r bless. |
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| ussshorty |
May 13th 2003, 12:17 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
^^^^^^^^^^
yeah kids can be sweet! but do you know when tealc went to o'neill "when you speak to her, do not see your friend" and o'neill was like "how do you do that" i was thinking um not really good advice because youve worked with this person and gotten to know them. |
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| napoleon_blownapart |
May 17th 2003, 8:05 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: March 24th 2003 Member No.: 1,188 |
There was some blending, but it wasn't for a very long time, so the memories and such weren't made completely accesible to the symbiote and host. I think... And I think the reason Jolinar didn't let Sam talk was because she knew the SGC people wouldn't trust her anyway. Wait a sec, she did let Sam talk, when Sam was all like, "Don't leave me here like this!" to O'Neill. But it was kinda brief. |
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| Firefly |
May 17th 2003, 10:28 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: April 6th 2003 From: Maine Member No.: 1,304 Gender: Female |
I don't think that was really her though, because for one thing she called the colonel "Jack" and she ALWAYS calls him sir or colonel, and another, right after O'Neill left the room, she went right back to being Jolinar and said "What will it take?" So I think she was just faking being Sam.
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| Sam's Sister |
May 21st 2003, 8:49 PM
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Senior Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 359 Joined: May 6th 2003 From: Southern California Member No.: 1,532 Gender: Female |
I agree with Firefly for exactly those reasons. I always wondered why Jolinar didn't really let Sam speak # even if the team didn't trust her. But I just rewatched "Tok'ra 1" and Sam tells Martouf that she was fighting Jolinar the whole time, so she didn't understand that it would be OK to blend. So maybe Jolinar never really could # or would # blend because Sam wasn't willing. You would think that Jolinar could have communicated that to Sam internally, but I guess not if Sam was fighting it. But it seems odd that Jolinar didn't tell the SG team who she was in the first place. And shouldn't it have been a clue that Jolinar didn't immediately call Teal'c a traitor as every other Goa'uld seems to do them moment they see him? But it was still early in the series, so maybe that wasn't happening so much. Anyway, this is also one of my favorite episodes # I'm partial to anything where Sam is featured more, but I think it's interesting how the other characters deal with her, especially Jack.
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| Jack+Sam4eva |
 May 28th 2003, 3:28 PM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: May 27th 2003 From: wolverhampton,uk Member No.: 1,665 Gender: Female |
i fink this ep was good but d bit at the end when sam got attacked was a bit strange.
ud hav thought for one thing that a member of sg1 would have stayed wit sam/jolinar cuz sam was stil in there somewhere and maybe if theyd hav helped her she cud hav faught it also, why didn't anyone check on her the minute the alrms started ringing? |
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