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post Jan 20th 2003, 12:37 PM
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Season 1, Episode 12 - Fire and Water
Original Air Date: October 17, 1997

The SG-1 team returns from the planet Oannes in a panic # and without Daniel Jackson, who was last seen being consumed by a column of flames. But, as his comrades mourn him on Earth, Daniel is actually a captive of an amphibious humanoid creature known as Nem.
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post Jan 20th 2003, 1:46 PM
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this episode was so dramatic i actually did think daniel was dead until they showed him and wasnt all the actors brilliant in this episode. smile.gif
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post Feb 7th 2003, 6:44 AM
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It was quite a moving episode, but it all just happened too easily and quickly, you just new it wasn't real.

But, yeah, as for Nem himself, who knows if he'll be back. If his mate was sent/went to Earth to rid the place of Goa'uld they must have some powers/technology.

His abode there seemed quite techie, and the mind machine.... Ancient? Furling? Ahhh, we'll go crazy over those two races, won't we - ha ha haaa...
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post Feb 7th 2003, 4:33 PM
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i loved the end when they told daniel about the memorial service.
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post Feb 7th 2003, 5:40 PM
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Yeah "Colonel said some nice things..." - funny tongue.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 4:36 AM
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yeah that was the best bit
carter:"the colonel said some really nice stuff"
daniel:"HE DID" .....(shocked)......he did?" laugh.gif laugh.gif

i love it cool.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 4:55 AM
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Seems odd though that someone such as Nem's mate would be sent to help. I mean, there's been no mention of aliens in early history, was there? Only the Goa'uld impersonating people, but at the time noone knew there were aliens. Wonder how this chick wandered around Babylon.
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post Feb 8th 2003, 5:22 AM
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maybe they can change their apperence wink.gif
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post Feb 8th 2003, 6:58 AM
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hmm, they never did say that his mate was same species as him.. maybe she was a human? or maybe since they said she retreated to the water at night that she was able to walk around looking human and then change her apperance during the day to be more "human like".

overall, this was one of my favourite episodes, not just because you see daniel in a wet tshirt for the first time wink.gif but because i'm really into the whole babylonian times as well. most of the reason i am so into stargate sg-1 is because of the culture issue, although now its more into aliens and other technologies, which thus only make it more interesting smile.gif

ok, i'm ending my rant on why i'm suck a big geek tongue.gif
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post Feb 9th 2003, 4:47 AM
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I must admit that although my knowledge of ancient Earth cultures is pitiful, I do enjoy that part of Stargate. Maybe this couldn't have been written in, but I would have liked to see some "flashbacks" or something of Ancient Babylon, woulda been cool.
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post Feb 9th 2003, 8:11 AM
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im quite good at knowing about the past times and earths cultures but history always was my best subject at school. rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 12th 2003, 5:10 AM
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Linz has a good point, why do we assume Nem's mate was the same race? Even in 6x18 Forsaken (minor spoiler) we see the captain and his wife being different races.

But if she was human would she have been in a position to fight the Goa'uld? True she was murdered, but she must have thought she had a chance in the first place.
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post Feb 12th 2003, 2:05 PM
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well i dunno
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post Feb 14th 2003, 8:58 AM
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One alien against all the Goauld....their technology must be pretty efective if she thought she had a chance......one of the 4 maybe
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post Feb 15th 2003, 11:24 PM
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Possibly. Although could she have been Goa'uld herself, or Tok'ra (despite his despise of Teal'c etc - that could have come about AFTER the fact)???

I'm thinking this is one story that will never be told, unfortunately. Ahhh there really IS enough story lines here for 20 seasons isn't there?? Ha ha haaa....
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post Feb 16th 2003, 4:32 AM
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well i dont think she was a gould since her mate had summin against gould and she wanted to defeat the gould so there is a chance shes a tokra they always want to commit suicide on these missions they go on. rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 18th 2003, 7:02 AM
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Well maybe she did (succeed on her mission and commit suicide). Just because Danny remembers some written text on what might have happened doesn't make it true.
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post Feb 20th 2003, 2:15 PM
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QUOTE (AOT @ Feb 18 2003, 07:02 AM)
Well maybe she did (succeed on her mission and commit suicide). Just because Danny remembers some written text on what might have happened doesn't make it true.

true it just drives every1 nuts searching for answers. dry.gif
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post Feb 21st 2003, 1:02 AM
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QUOTE (Vixa @ Feb 18 2003, 10:31 PM)
well the captain & ....(in this episode), r they from the same race?

We better watch the spoilers here, but no, I don't believe they were the same.
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post Feb 21st 2003, 6:31 AM
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the way the episode layed it out then i really dont think they were the same race they sounded totally differant.
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post Feb 22nd 2003, 4:06 AM
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To summarise: Nem's mate was neither the same race as him, nor human, nor Goa'uld - so what does that leave us with? It must have been someone with enough perceived power to at least take on the Goa'uld. Furling? tongue.gif
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post Mar 7th 2003, 12:54 AM
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I guess they don't die of old age too. After thousands of years he is still alive. Maybe he is Furling afterall.
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post Mar 7th 2003, 3:43 PM
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i like i t when jack beats up gen.hammond's car

hammond:oh..by the way thats my car

jack:ill have that sorted out for you sir.
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post Mar 8th 2003, 4:29 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Mar 7 2003, 03:43 PM)
i like i t when jack beats up gen.hammond's car

hammond:oh..by the way thats my car

jack:ill have that sorted out for you sir.

That only goes to show that golf clubs should be considered a weapon. (that is what he smashed the car with right?)
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