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| Arcady |
Dec 1st 2002, 5:58 PM
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Base Commander Group: Admin Posts: 4,952 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male |
Season 5, Episode 5 - Red Sky
Original Air Date: July 27, 2001 SG-1 visits a new world populated by people who very much resemble the Amish in their way of life. Unfortunately, activation of the Stargate causes a variation in the sun's radiation. Thus, all life on the planet will soon die. The Asgard, who are the protectors of this world, are absent again for some unknown reason. |
| Lezlow |
Dec 10th 2002, 8:07 PM
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Brigadier General Group: Moderators Posts: 2,225 Joined: December 1st 2002 From: Middlefield, Ohio USA Member No.: 25 Gender: Male |
i wish that the azguard would hellp out more
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| ussshorty |
Jan 2nd 2003, 6:32 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah i just didnt like this episode
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| Cassandra |
Jan 18th 2003, 6:45 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 89 Joined: December 30th 2002 From: U S of A Member No.: 205 |
I was with Jack wanting to kick that zealots ass for killing some of our guys for building the rocket though; we were trying to save their lives, even though the situation was our fault for bypassing some things to connect...
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| ussshorty |
Jan 19th 2003, 8:33 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah im with jack and cassandra i just so wanted to do some ass kicking.
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| ussshorty |
Jan 31st 2003, 1:38 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
well dont state the obvious |
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| quiquito |
Feb 14th 2003, 4:14 PM
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I kill Mass-debators Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,386 Joined: November 27th 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 7 Gender: Male |
well if you are talking about about swinging round the sun to travel through time, well that's only during a solar flare, so if we by-pass some of the safety prosidures then i suppose we could do it!! |
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| Raxor |
Feb 14th 2003, 4:27 PM
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... Group: Moderators Posts: 4,361 Joined: December 26th 2002 From: England, Uk Member No.: 174 Gender: Male |
we were luckt there wasnt a solar flare on that sun, imagine what could happen if we did that and went through our sun, i dont think the asqguard would even help us then. but if it was after when anubis attackes then something could probbably be arranged.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 16th 2003, 6:05 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
they were v.lucky to get that sun back to normal id say the asguard would be pretty pissed with them if it didnt work but the asguard did decide to help a little in the end.
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| ussshorty |
Feb 17th 2003, 5:08 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
remeber at the end of the episode im pretty sure one of them said 'so they did decide to help' or summin along those lines but im pretty sure that something was meant to tell us that the asguard helped.
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| quiquito |
Feb 17th 2003, 10:48 AM
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I kill Mass-debators Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,386 Joined: November 27th 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 7 Gender: Male |
well you see, when we first asked for help they basialy said NO and f-off but when we tried to do our own thig, it took too long to work, but it did in the end so they said that it was probably the because: we started it off and that gave the asguard an excusse to help out
has your question been answered?!! |
| PAL |
Mar 12th 2003, 11:16 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,259 Joined: January 16th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 368 Gender: Male |
The guy who blew up the rocket reminded me of Kinsey and the NID. I love to hate those guys
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| mithwriter |
Mar 16th 2003, 8:53 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: February 26th 2003 Member No.: 885 Gender: Female |
Does anybody else notice the irony that all of Thor's holograms for Gods are these huge hulking guys?
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| Ender |
Mar 19th 2003, 2:45 PM
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well what would you worship? a smalll little grey thing, or a big handsome viking guy!! anyway the point of my post is something else entirly: if they introduced the heavy element by going to the katau world through the sun, why oh why did they continue to back and forth?? ( i spose this post might be btr off in nit-picking!) |
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| Apis |
Mar 23rd 2003, 10:40 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,475 Joined: March 15th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 1,116 Gender: Male |
Is it just me, or could this episode have used a few more visual effects? I know story is important and all (and this episode indeed has an exceptional storyline), but when I look back to episodes like Scorched Earth, or Crystal Skull, this episode just doesn't add up to the Stargate's usual standard of visual effects.
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| PennyAfNorberg |
Mar 31st 2003, 7:02 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: March 11th 2003 From: Sweden/Link?ping/Ryd Member No.: 1,067 |
By the way, which viking god was the asgard posing as here?
Freja? ( the godess of sex, drogs and rocke'n'roll)? Shouldn't she have ben portatied as a girl then? Hmm it I remember correctly she had a brother called Frej god of approx thesame, was it him? And I really wish that they could pronce ragnar?k correctly in the future, it is'nt that hard for instance 'have heard' is prominced approx. 'hav h?rd' if it would be written it within swedish, of course there is someother places where I would wish for them not to skip the rings and dots (?,?,? diffrent signs are used in norweigian, danish and icelandic) but just ragnar?k is something that really sticks in my ears Hmm from a book i keep near my computer ragnar?k comes from icelandic 'ragna r?k' were ragna means the rulers, the power and r?k development, passing (as the passing of time), denisty (strange in swedish r?k means smoke...) so I would thay is means "the gods' denisty" hmm the swedisk r?k seems to come from icelantic 'reykr', german 'rauch' or english 'reek' |
| drukawski |
Apr 1st 2003, 1:54 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: April 1st 2003 Member No.: 1,250 |
[By the way, which viking god was the asgard posing as here?
Freja? ( the godess of sex, drogs and rocke'n'roll)? Shouldn't she have ben portatied as a girl then? ] The only problem with this argument is your assuming that its possible to tell the difference between Viking men and women. They all look butch to me.. lol j/k |
| Waywatcher |
Apr 1st 2003, 1:35 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: April 1st 2003 From: Hampshire, England Member No.: 1,257 |
I liked this episode, wasn't a lot of action, but it was a very interesting play on God and faith in general. They almost had to accept that their God didn't exist.
At the end, wen the sun returned to normal, it could have been due to SG-1's plan, or an intervention by the Asgard, or even intervention by some form of God, because the people kept their faith to the very end..... Anyway just my general thoughts. |
| Aceuss |
May 8th 2003, 6:11 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: March 25th 2003 Member No.: 1,198 Gender: Male |
Man, don't you just hate religious fanatics? That bastard who set the fire to the rocket should've been executed by Jack right then and there
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| YellowMycon |
May 30th 2003, 11:44 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: May 27th 2003 From: Denver Colorado Member No.: 1,668 |
got to love the Amish eh?
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
Jun 25th 2003, 8:52 AM
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ASSgards are pussies! Group: Moderators Posts: 7,208 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
Kinda got a problem with this ep. So Sam figured out that they introduced a heavy element into the K'Tau sun.
How did she know it was plutonium and which isotope was it? How does she know so much about sun reactions when scientists from earth have never experimented on a sun. So then she figures out that mixing a super heavy element she caled Mc'Clarium would balance it out, cause this magical element would bond witht the plutonium (snicker) and fix everything. So how does she know how much Mc'Clarium to use? How much plutonium was introduced into the sun and everytime them gated from earth to K'Tau or vice versa (which was a lot to bring a rocket through) they would have introduced more sh*t into the sun. So if Plutonium shifted the sun towards the infra-red and this element would fix it, then this element would shift it towards the UV range. If she used too much she would have freid the planet with lots of UV radiation (I hope the K'Tau people have good sun screen). Good thing she failed and the Asgard fixed their sun. |
| Stargate SG-1 Addict |
Jul 26th 2003, 11:04 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: June 30th 2003 Member No.: 1,953 |
How much is Daniel inthis episode?
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| UMichSpeedCubist |
Aug 5th 2003, 6:06 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: August 5th 2003 From: Ann Arbor, MI Member No.: 2,238 Gender: Not Telling |
(long time reader (~1yr), first time posts)
On the post given by PennyAfNorberg, the actual name of the god being posed was FREYR, he supposively was Odin in another form as the god of rain, sunshine and fruits and hence a protector figure of the K'Tau is quite justified. There was a stupid comment about why the SG1 team kept going back and forth and sending "more s**t into their sun," well from astronomy, the planet is in constant motion, it is very, very rare that the sun is in between a given path. After a few hours the alignment is completely changed. As you may recall during the first few minutes of the episode (before the title sequence), the K'Tau star's light is of a higher intensity and Carter states that it is because their planet is on a MUCH closer/tighter then ours. So although this does actually increase the likelyhood of them passing "dirrectly" through the star making the entire episode fesible/justified. Assumming their star is of similar gravitational pull and plant of the similar mass (this second one is free since SG1 is seen walking normally), we may surmise that that the planet is traveling much faster then ours to keep a stable orbit (1 yr<365 days). This means that in an even shorter time they would be in a significatly different alignment so that they wouldn't be passing through the star. Now for the tricky bit, the conclusion. Ok, if you think about it they actaully leave 3 open possibilities. One is that teh Asgard assisted, as in because SG1 started the process, instead of violating the Treaty by preventing a natural disaster (see the episode where an asteroid is on an intercept course with Earth), the Asgard are technically helping their friends, SG-1. Now although this is alluded to in the end, I highly doubt it; perhaps they are watching from a distance or someting just to see if their prespective "5th Race" is resourceful enough. Secondly is that Sam's backup plan did indeed work, maybe the Maclearium just took a while to work. Or let's say she's half-right, her calculations were off and the Maclarium landed a bit off target (likely in astronomical calculations), then isn't it feasible that a super heavy element (especially 5yrs worth) would gradually 'fall/drift' into their star and then cause the chain chemical (probably nuclear) reaction to occur, thus compansating for such delay? Someone mantioned something about too much Maclearium, what bs, now assuming what Carter's theory states is correct (suspension of disbelief and, when is Sam ever wrong! (well Prodigy ended iffy on who was right)), then the Maclarium is actually a completely stable super-heavy element and the Plutonium (someone asked how does she know it was Plutonium, she doesn't it was just a probable guess that she kept going back to, saying in examples, instead of using "some unstable heavy element"). Too much Maclearium is therefore fine, it's relatively inert... Ok now how about too much (like there 'was' a build up of the poison gating back and forth, which I already have discounted)? Well what if the stable Maclarium acts like a catylyst it is present in a chemical (probably nuclear in this cases) but is left unchanged - X amount goes in, X amount comes out. Or perhaps Sam 'is' that smart and worked out the calculations perfectly (cacluating for something that she only recently found out about). Ok and finally here is possibility number 3, what if there 'was' divine intervention, in the literal sense. I'm sure most Sci-Fi goers won't agree with this one, but I think it was the intent of the writers to leave this one as an option. I mean a great deal of the plotline was about religion so why not? It doesn't have to be that they have to believe in 'the' God instead of 'their' God, as rather their believe in 'a' God that is their salvation from Raknorok (can't put the two dots in, but I can pronounce it properly). Either way, I loved how they finished it with Daniel going up to them (disturing them during prayer wasn't nice though) to wish them well and add a phrase that followed in their beliefs; right after which, the Eye of Odin clears up. It is great that the K'Tau are left to think that it is indeed all some sort of 'test' and SG1 was apart of it (and in this possibility, perhaps they were). Of course Malphas shouldn't of killed 2 of O'Neill's men and blew up the beautiful rocket, but I think public executions are fine with the Vikings, lol. This way the K'Tau will better trust the Tari (Midgaurd/Elves) when/if we need their help in the furture. |
| Spacen |
Sep 18th 2003, 12:26 PM
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We don't know for sure that the Asgard fixed it. They only speculate. Also, everyone knows that carter is always right in the show. She can't be wrong, it would be the end of the show because the earth would blow up or something. |
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