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post Dec 1st 2002, 6:12 PM
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Season 5, Episode 15 - Summit
Original Air Date: March 22, 2002

The Tok'ra learn that the Goa'uld System Lords are negotiating an alliance, and request Daniel Jackson's help to infiltrate the meeting. Meanwhile, the other members of SG-1 help the Tok'ra to evacuate their base, and Samantha Carter makes a surprising discovery. (Part 1 of 2).
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post Jan 2nd 2003, 2:56 PM
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i guess this was a cool episode but ive seen so many episodes to do with sg-1 saving the tokra. IPB Image
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post Jan 17th 2003, 11:42 PM
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This episode and its companion are interesting for the first time we see the nature of the System Lords and the Goa'uld when togeather. I believe you could almost sense fear about this unknown attacker. That turns out to be Anubis.
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post Jan 17th 2003, 11:46 PM
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It was kinda sad how that new recruit guy got dead sad.gif It was his first mission too. That also means that Martouf's symbiote is dead (something-lash). What I found to be really unexpected is the cannibalizm of symbiotes. The system lords are sick. I guess that is how they keep down the opposition though. No rival Goa'uld are allowed to rise.
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post Jan 18th 2003, 4:08 AM
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i know it is sick and i wreckon they should of let that dude stay a little longer and keep martoufs symbiote in him cause i wwould of liked to see sams reaction. rolleyes.gif

and jacobs in this episode yahoo laugh.gif
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post Jan 31st 2003, 1:32 PM
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QUOTE (Vixa @ Jan 31 2003, 07:54 AM)
well is there a limit for system lords.

to be honest i dont actually think there is. wink.gif
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post Feb 19th 2003, 12:40 AM
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I liked this episode because jacob is in it. Jacob is cool. Always enjoy seeing him. Good episode.
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post Mar 4th 2003, 8:30 AM
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i'm not sure what to think of this, it's bad since anubis isnow a system lord, what do you think he did to piss yu off? yu really hates him, but i think it was good when (spoiler) daniel was stoped from killing him so as to give it a path for the show to folow. but that woman, daniels friend with the snake in her is such a bitch.
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post Mar 19th 2003, 2:45 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Jan 31 2003, 01:32 PM)
QUOTE (Vixa @ Jan 31 2003, 07:54 AM)
well is there a limit for system lords.

to be honest i dont actually think there is. wink.gif

We don't hear that there is any limit per se, but the other system lords have to approve your becoming a system lord so it obviously requires a certain amount of power before that can happen. And given that Goa'uld controlled space is only so large, only a limited number of Goa'uld are going to be able to achieve that level of power.

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post Apr 1st 2003, 2:24 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Jan 2 2003, 08:56 PM)
i guess this was a cool episode but ive seen so many episodes to do with sg-1 saving the tokra. rolleyes.gif
lets have the tokra save sg-1 biggrin.gif

Well I just saw this episode, and I can't see any surviving tok'ra exept jacob and martoff (in the new guy) and sg1 needs some pretty heavy bombs to save the situation, anubis' underling is massing tons of jaffas
And the Tok'ras did help Jack and Teal'c then they where lost in space
And from my viewpoint it might be stupid to kill of the system lords, the best way for the tok'ras to survive seems to be a tok'ras-system lords alliance agains anubis, of course this won't happend, partly because the tok'ras, and the system lords where uninformed

I wonder who the spy at the tok'ras where? The gou'ald who Teal'c killed in 48 hours? If so why did he know where the bas were relocated, stupid thing to tell to a spy...
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post Apr 2nd 2003, 11:32 AM
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Elliot should not of dyed i saw great charater development there and someone who would make fantastic supporting actor there and plus he was good looking.
why do they take everyone i like away orlin,martouf and now elliot.
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post Jul 9th 2003, 3:16 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Apr 2 2003, 11:32 AM)
Elliot should not of dyed i saw great charater development there and someone who would make fantastic supporting actor there and plus he was good looking.
why do they take everyone i like away orlin,martouf and now elliot.

Yea I know...i hated it that Aldwin died too cause i thought both of their characters really could have been developed and Martouf she have stayed longer too...i hate it when they kill off the Tok'ra!
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post Jul 10th 2003, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (chiroho @ here)
We don't hear that there is any limit per se, but the other system lords have to approve your becoming a system lord so it obviously requires a certain amount of power before that can happen. And given that Goa'uld controlled space is only so large, only a limited number of Goa'uld are going to be able to achieve that level of power.

It seems to me that the few Goa?uld system lords don?t really want to enlarge their group. They accepted Anubis because he had an army powerful enough to destroy them. Anubis didn?t play by the rules. He used guerilla warfare tactics.

Besides, they were also offered the extinction of the Tauri.

So, if you bring something important enough to the table, they?ll let you in, otherwise, they?ll just kill you off, like they did to those symbiotes.

But you have to understand them to some extent. More Goa?ulds can only mean a decrease in the general territorial hold for each one that sits at that gathering. Goa?ulds are territorial. Such a move would only encourage the System Lords to wage battle amongst themselves, killing innocent Jaffa in the process.

That way, Teal?c?s dream would be lost.
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post Jul 14th 2003, 7:09 AM
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In the middle of this ep I really wanted Daniel to use that weapon on the System Lords. That could have made a lot of things more simple. Isis is a cool lady. She is mean as hell, but Cool.

At the end when the new guy dies. Why didn't they show him use the poison? I couldn't beleive that they didn't show it. Because what if he died before he reached the gate? How do we know that he actually set it off? What if they found it on him and took it to study? so many questions that could have been answered by them showing us how it ended.

Overall I gave this ep a b- . It needed more of something.
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post Jul 16th 2003, 3:34 AM
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They probably concentrated more on the political side, and the action at the Tok?ra base was a sort of filling, so they?d reach the required number of minutes.

One thing I dislike about this episode is the way the crystals look. I mean, judging by the way they look, they weren?t compact at all, yet Sam can barely lift one the size of her forearm. Besides, the props for the season 2 episodes ?The Tok?ra? part I and II were much better.
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post Jul 16th 2003, 6:38 AM
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QUOTE (ChewManFuu @ Jul 14 2003, 01:09 PM)
Isis is  a cool lady. She is mean as hell, but Cool.

I take it that you mean Osiris... Isis was Osiris' Queen that was killed when the seal on the stasis jar she was placed in was broken.

QUOTE (ChewManFuu @ Jul 14 2003, 01:09 PM)
At the end when the new guy dies.  Why didn't they show him use the poison?  I couldn't beleive that they didn't show it. Because what if he died before he reached the gate? How do we know that he actually set it off? What if they found it on him and took it to study?  so many questions that could have been answered by them showing us how it ended.

Well writers often do this so that they can choose whether they resurrect storylines or not. It is sometimes rather frustrating, but it's just the way it is. I think that we have to assume that Lantash/Elliot was successful unless they show us otherwise.

This and it's second part, 'Last Stand' were great episodes... there is a lot that we learn about the Goa'uld hierarchy and ways in them both.
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QUOTE (Aesir @ Jul 16 2003, 07:38 PM)
Well writers often do this so that they can choose whether they resurrect storylines or not. It is sometimes rather frustrating, but it's just the way it is. I think that we have to assume that Lantash/Elliot was successful unless they show us otherwise.

well, why can't lantash give his life to allow elliot survive. like as in go to the base at the stargate, use the poison, and then lantash allows himself to be absorbed by elliot's body (like jolonar did to sam). and then elliot lives... simple! whistling.gif
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post Jul 16th 2003, 11:56 AM
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Yeah, Lantesh could have left Elliot's body exactly before he released the poison, thus leaving him alive.

No, wait... he'd die anyway, cuz he was gravely injured...

Can't a symbiote hold it's breath, or create oxygen by some reaction in the human body while the poison is active?
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I thought it was funny when Elliot cracked a high in his first line
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Jan 2 2003, 02:56 PM)
i guess this was a cool episode but ive seen so many episodes to do with sg-1 saving the tokra. <!#emo&:rolleyes:#>user posted image<!#endemo#>
lets have the tokra save sg-1 <!#emo&:D#>user posted image<!#endemo#>

Uhhh...what saving did we do this time? They weren't even able to save Lantash, he was the one (with Eliot) who saved them. The Tokra saved the SGC when the Ree Tou rebels attacked, loosing one of their own in the process I might add.

Did anybody notice that Jack did not even catch on to the idea that the Tok'ra were expecting species extinction as the result of the war? With no queen of their own they would follow the goa'uld, it might take a while, but eventually they would die out, too. I am not sure I would be up to that level of commitment.

I must admit I cracked a smile with the following:

Yu: Don't make a fool of me by getting yourself murdered!.
Daniel: Yes, my lord.
(The look on his face was priceless!)

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Osiris looked especially good in this episode. Much better than in previous ones. I found it odd that the system lords accepted her as a representative when they required that all of the other system lords themselves were required to be there.
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At first, I believe they thought she was representing herself, but it wasn't until after she gave them an idea of what was at stake did she admit she was a representative.
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QUOTE (Cmdr Thor @ Sep 24 2003, 01:29 PM)
Osiris looked especially good in this episode. Much better than in previous ones. I found it odd that the system lords accepted her as a representative when they required that all of the other system lords themselves were required to be there.

i would have to agree with you. She is fine as hell!!
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I think Baal's Lotar needs to have his ambition fulfilled. He betrays Daniel, which is bad enough. However he does not report him to Baal where the information might be of some use (as far as he is concerned), but to Yu, for no discernable reason. He and a goa'uld symbiote would get along just fine.
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