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post Dec 1st 2002, 6:13 PM
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Season 5, Episode 16 - Last Stand
Original Air Date: March 29, 2002

With time running out to complete his plans, Daniel Jackson is confronted by Osiris before he is able to release the biological weapon supplied by the Tok'ra. At the same time, an attack force led by a mysterious Goa'uld approaches the Tok'ra home planet. (Part 2 of 2).
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post Dec 11th 2002, 1:57 AM
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why dotn they make like darts like the rings and shoot it at the bad guys and make them kill themselfs or something
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post Dec 18th 2002, 8:51 PM
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Does anyone know why the Gao'uld were eating mature Gao'uld simbiote? I dont think it was said in the show...
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post Jan 2nd 2003, 6:25 AM
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ok any1 whos sais this is a bad episode needs the head examined cause this was a great episode one of my faves. IPB Image
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post Jan 12th 2003, 8:13 PM
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quite good episode. i like that the tokra made a ring out of the stuff in the 5th man. nice little twist they through in there (or was it the episode before?), anyway... its on my top, uhh... something... list. IPB Image
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post Jan 13th 2003, 12:06 PM
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just remembred summin else aswell jacob is in it YAY!!!!!!!!!
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post Jan 17th 2003, 11:52 PM
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The consumption by the Goa'uld of their own in the episode was listed at the reason why the Goa'uld were in neutral to negative population growth. I personally think that the whole eating process was just a means that they could demonstrate their power. For even Osiris who had been out of the loop for thousands of years new that the consumption was going to occur and she's been out off the System Lord loop for a while. Therefore the consumption off the Goa'uld seems to be an old custom and its understandable that the Tok'ra didn't know about it as its doubtful a Tok'ra agent has ever been to a summit of the System Lords.
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post Jan 18th 2003, 4:05 AM
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yes, well im sure everyone thought of that while typing the comments on the episode. wink.gif huh.gif
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post Jan 19th 2003, 7:27 AM
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Watching the this episode and its companion episode again and I'm now convinced that the way SG 1 gets out off this fix is bordering on the impossible. In some ways the writers need to keep things believable.
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post Jan 19th 2003, 8:19 AM
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what do u mean writers can do anything on the show thats their power and they do make it exciting look tthis is the chain of acting
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post Jan 19th 2003, 9:10 PM
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They eat mature symbiotes for one reason, to keep down competition. If the numbers of mature symbiotes rises, more system lords will appear, and they will each control a smaller territory. If they eat all the symbiotes that mature, then they can keep producing Jaffa, but ensure that no rival Goa'uld rises.
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post Jan 26th 2003, 9:02 AM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Jan 19 2003, 09:10 PM)
They eat mature symbiotes for one reason, to keep down competition. If the numbers of mature symbiotes rises, more system lords will appear, and they will each control a smaller territory. If they eat all the symbiotes that mature, then they can keep producing Jaffa, but ensure that no rival Goa'uld rises.

yeah what pal said. whistling.gif
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post Jan 26th 2003, 9:29 AM
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and there should be a few go'auld system lords, because as pal said, there will be smaller armies to the same lord
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post Jan 26th 2003, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (Raxor @ Jan 26 2003, 09:29 AM)
and there should be a few go'auld system lords, because as pal said, there will be smaller armies to the same lord

yeah but the smaller the armies are the easier it is for sg-1 to kick their butts and i want tence dangerous missions not easy peasy lemon squeezy. wink.gif
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post Jan 31st 2003, 1:43 PM
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no problem whats-o-ever
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post Feb 9th 2003, 11:01 PM
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O.K. I'm reverse engineering my way through the series so, maybe someone can tell me just who osiris is. Or, obviously, who osisis' host is to Dr. Jackson.
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post Feb 11th 2003, 12:37 PM
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well osiris host is a woman called sarah i dont remeber her last name but she was really close to daniel so i guess osiris could use that against daniel she was also a doctor of archology.
osiris normally chooses a male host but this time she choose a woman she osiris also has a brother who is a gould system lord i just cant remember who.
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post Mar 10th 2003, 7:47 AM
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I was so caught by this episode and the end of it took me by surprise...I wanted to see their final plan put into action. Oh well I have to imagine it myself...smile.gif
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post Mar 10th 2003, 2:12 PM
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Yeah that was a little disappointing.
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post Mar 19th 2003, 3:08 PM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Jan 19 2003, 09:10 PM)
They eat mature symbiotes for one reason, to keep down competition. If the numbers of mature symbiotes rises, more system lords will appear, and they will each control a smaller territory. If they eat all the symbiotes that mature, then they can keep producing Jaffa, but ensure that no rival Goa'uld rises.

Well yes, but not all Goa'uld become system lords. We have seen plenty of Goa'uld who are not system lords, yet are in the service of a system lord:

- Zipacna in Pretense, was a servant of Apophis
- Klorel was the "son" of Apophis, but obviously wasn't a system lord
- Tanith was a Goa'uld in the service of first Apophis, and then Anubis
- Mot was a Goa'uld who served Ba'al
- Bynar was the lord of Netu, and served Sokar
- Osiris, on his/her return, served Anubis

And as I think Teal'c says at one point, there are only a few system lords, but there are many thousands of minor Goa'uld in service to the system lords.

So I don't think it's just to keep the population down because the fact that there are more Goa'uld doesn't necessarily mean that they will become system lords. But it obviously does help keep down the number of rivals.
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post Apr 1st 2003, 2:34 PM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Jan 20 2003, 03:10 AM)
They eat mature symbiotes for one reason, to keep down competition. If the numbers of mature symbiotes rises, more system lords will appear, and they will each control a smaller territory. If they eat all the symbiotes that mature, then they can keep producing Jaffa, but ensure that no rival Goa'uld rises.

Well they don't have to eat them, just not letting them take hosts


I don't believe the Tok'ras will kill off the Jaffas by the way, it's the way of the Aschen and that won't just happend, rather I find it more likely that Teal'c's idea will be implentated, with free jaffas and enslaved gou'alds. (well a couple of queens is enough)

A new Tok'ra queen would give other possiblies but I find that highly unlikely
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post Apr 10th 2003, 3:30 PM
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i tell u what i dont like is elliott being killed off so soon.
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post May 13th 2003, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE (ussshorty @ Feb 11 2003, 12:37 PM)
osiris normally chooses a male host but this time she choose a woman she osiris also has a brother who is a gould system lord i just cant remember who.

I haven't seen the relevant epsiodes, yet, but in Ancient Egyptian mythology and religion, the brother of Osiris was Seth. Seth slew Osiris and scattered his body parts, but Osiris's sister and wife, Isis, gathered them together, and raised Osiris from the dead. She then bore a son, Horus, to Osiris. Horus was able to avenge his father on Seth, and suceeded to Osiris throne. Osiris became the king of the dead, just as the Pharaoh, the Horus, was the king of the living. online2long.gif online2long.gif online2long.gif
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post May 26th 2003, 6:53 AM
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Seth is osiris brother, and along with Isis, there son is heru'ur (horus)
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