Season 4, Episode 8 - The First Ones
Original Air Date: August 18, 2000

While on an archeological expidition on an alien world, Daniel Jackson is captured and held prisoner by an Unas (see season 2's Demons), and must use his many skills in order to survive. The rest of the SG-1 team go in search of him, but soon run into trouble themselves.

i loved this episode it was one of the best episodes of season 4 i really liked the chocolate thingy between the unas and daniel

Demons was season 3 not season 2 the descriptions. said (Last seen 2's Demons) Demons was season 3!



Yes its probably my top 3 favorite episode of the series
Beast of burden is in the same catagorey sense the episodes are related

i wouldnt say its in my top 3 i liked it but i missed that action.

I loved how the Unas changed his mind from killing Daniel to killing the Alpha male and making Daniel a friend in his heart. It was the first sign of full sentience in the Unas race as being...kind (yet brutal). I loved Daniel's talking to him, but I was sad to see that Daniels friend the archeaologist having to die since a Goa'uld took him over.

daniel made a new friend him and tealc are always making new friends and sams always getting new admirers and jack well he.........hes jack funny and sarcastic

What I want to know is why Teal'c had to tie everyone up to find out who was a Go'uald, when in previous episodes he and Sam have both been able to sense the presence of a Go'uald.
And did they really have to shoot Rothman?
loopy

probaly because it would be the most logical thing to do and sam isnt as experianced as tealc when it comes to these things and we dont want to take any chances now do we.

Sam and teal werent able to sense the Goa'uld because these Goa'uld didnt have Nahqudah in their blood. They can only sense the Nahquadah, not the Goa'uld it self. Thats why neither of them felt all of the Goa'uld in the lake.

Okay, good answer, but what then is the significance of the naquada? Does this mean these were friendly Goa'uld?
And why didn't they find a symbiote from here when Teal'c needed one?
loopy

So, why were the primordial Goa'ulds evil and not all tree-huggy comung from nature and stuff?

Sumbiote's blood: blue
Unas' blood: green
Klingon's blood: depends on who you ask.

Didja see how Teal'c shot the symbiote out of the air with his back turned? Holy coolness, Batman!

And I'm kinda glad they got rid of Dr. Jackson's protege...that dark-haired hella with the perpetually stuffed nose.

Indeed, Rothman was a bit too archetypal for my liking too. Still it was a surprise. oh crap he's infested... hes dead. guess we will not be seeing him anymore. First they explain that goa'uld got evil partly because the sacrophagus. .then that tok'ra queen rebeled against the goa'uld teaching the tok'ra that the sacrophagus is bad.. the tok'ra don't use it now and they are good. so how did those indigneous goa'uld get bad? good question.

It's not really been explained, the same as how the Goa'uld went from having no naquadah in their blood to having it present in the current day.

But I don't think that it's necessarily the case that these Goa'uld were "bad" per se. I think that their aim was to take over a host so that they could get out of the pond/lake and do something else. It's hard to say for sure as it's not shown in the episode, but the impression I got was that Major Hawkins could have been posessed by the Goa'uld before they run into him at the tents - which is why O'Neill is asking Rothman about his behaviour. And until the point where he felt threatened he didn't do anything agressive - more like just tagging along and trying to absorb things.

But obviously the Unas were scared, or at least very wary, of them - likely because once they had absorbed things they started trying to be dominant, and with the extra strenght they had this made things easier. I think it's just a step up from trying to be big snake swimming in the pond. You dispatch others when you can, and try and push everyone else around. And once they started acquiring technology they never let go of that "I'm better than you are" attitude.

Big Daniel advocate here.. glad he's comin' back.. this one was on the best Daniel episodes next to Crystal Skull and Summit/Last Stand.. and a few others.

And Rothman.. so freaking annoying# and not very helpful in the least, in my opinion. I mean, why was he working for the SGC when on several occasions (erh, i.e. Crystal Skull) he wasn't able to do much to help SG-1? Yea#whoopie, oh, no, he's a goa'uld#oh, wait, he's dead. No biggie there for me. They have plenty of scientists on the SGC anyway.

Daniel was so cool in this episode. lol the part where he said to Chaka about how he was trying to communicate his friends so that they could "come and shoot you". Funnnyyy. But I think he did really well with his linguist abilities and trying to speak with Chaka on the same level. The episodes of Daniel's usefulness started to drop at the end of Season 3 # but in this ep. of season 4, it was peak performance for Dannyboy and I lurved it!

..Gotta love his bandana, tooo! **purrrrr**

Did not like Rothman much either for his uselessness. But i still thought it was anit-climatic. Introduce a character that makes reappearances and then just kill him. But thats the reality factor of the show that is rearing up too.
That Hawkins guy was described as staring into space when the rescue team first found him. That would support chiroho contention that the pond goa'uld are not naturally evil. Staring into space seems to suggest that entering the body was a very new experience, like opening a new reality or something. experiencing human senses, the goa'uld must have been stunned or flabbergasted and was just taking it all in. It was only after being rescued that he started to act the part. I think he was feeling he was around the new world.

I think these were the older more primordial goa'uld with only the knowledge of their lake and they desire to get out. They only probably know about getting to Unas. so their memory is only of the lake or sometimes of the desire to get to an Unas. The goa'uld system lords probably go there just to get some goa'uld for summits. Who needs those goa'uld who don;t even have the genetic memory anyways. I think the goa'uld first got to the Unas then someway spread through their stargate, but these other goa'uld are just the ones that never left the pond.

The Alpha Unas was way bigger than Chaka. With Chaka as their new Alpha, their tribe will be weak and get beaten by other Unas. SG-1 ruined their tribe.

This was one of my favorite episodes from this season (my signiture quote comes from it) as it showcased Daniels's remarkable linguistic abilites and his natural people (or big hairy beastie) skills.

It happened rarely that Danny got the chance to solve a problem without Jack trying to over-protect him.

Jack would probably have shot Chaka on sight!





its Purple by the way (Klingon Blood)

This post has been edited by Nicci: Mar 28th 2003, 9:05 AM

maybe O'Neill just wannid to use his new toy (the P90) and so shot Rothman

was a good episode tho, T shootin that jumpin Go'uld.....very cool


oh and kilingon blood is only purple in ST:VI (the Undiscovered Country), its red in the series and generations

Wasn?t that a female Unas that got killed? I think Daniel says ?He just beat the alpha-female/mother? and then ?he became the Alpha Male?

Which makes me ask: if they no longer have an alpha female, does that mean that Chacka went from being a wet_behind_the_ears Unas to being a wed tribe leader?

He?s gotta get a ?wife? now and make little young tribe members?

Maybe he?ll get a female from another tribe, kidnap her, and? well, no need for me to continue.

is there a difference between male/female? if there is, i can't see one.

and i doubt the unas take females from other tribes for...mating...purposes. that's pretty much just humans.

What I want to know is how do those primorial goa'ulds survive in that pond? If we think back to the season 2 episode "Bane" I remember that Teal'c's symbiote could not survive in the aquarium of water. To solve the problem they added a small electrical current to the water in order to simulate being inside a human. So how do the primorial goa'ulds in the pond survive? because I didn't see any 9-volts hooked up to the lake.

Aris, There has to be gender differentiation, how else would they? um? reproduce? It seems that the more evolved a species is, the less they can reproduce. The Unas are pretty evolved. I wonder? can they be cold blooded beings?

Apis, we did this in Science and Tech. It seems that the Goa?uld that lived in the pond were a step lower on the evolution scale. They were less sophisticated, so they didn?t need the current.