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| Arcady |
 Dec 16th 2002, 3:21 PM
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Base Commander  Group: Admin Posts: 4,952 Joined: November 26th 2002 From: Dallas, Texas USA Member No.: 1 Gender: Male  |
Season 4, Episode 21 - Double Jeopardy
Original Air Date: February 16, 2001 The SG-1 team encounters the Goa'uld System Lord Cronus (who previously appeared in Fair Game and Crossroads) while trying to undo a mistake they supposedly made on a prior mission. They confront Cronus with help from an unexpected source. |
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| ussshorty |
Jan 2nd 2003, 5:48 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
this episode was cool,not 1 of myfaves but i really did like it.
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| Joans Quin |
Jan 4th 2003, 3:16 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: December 25th 2002 From: Victoria British Colombia canada Member No.: 167 |
earth get's it's first hand on a mother ship that is their's and mostly un-dammged, I thought this epsoide was a bit too cloke and daggery though..
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| ussshorty |
Jan 5th 2003, 10:16 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,830 Joined: January 1st 2003 From: planet wales. Member No.: 215 Gender: Female |
yeah i thought the writers could of done alot more with this episode.
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| Pearce1340 |
 Feb 25th 2003, 4:52 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Baldock, Hertfordshire, England Member No.: 497 |
Why bother with this post, if you have something to say about the episode, say it. But you have seemed to go through each ep sayign that you like it! Well great, but say why. go into more detail, ask questions!!! Make your post a bit more interesting, at the moment it seems like you are just doing it to increase your posts, and one word to Arcady and he can deduct them! Thanks Steve |
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| Jimmy |
Mar 3rd 2003, 5:18 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: December 5th 2002 Member No.: 66 |
this is one of the best episodes in my opinion especially when the two jacks start fighting with each other i was pissing myself with laughter
although it was a little cloak an dagger but wat the hey! |
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| Aceuss |
Mar 27th 2003, 11:04 AM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: March 25th 2003 Member No.: 1,198 Gender: Male |
This was an extremely entertaining episode for me. First, we encounter the mechanical clones of SG-1 for the first time after they were introduced in series 1. It sure took the writers a long time to bring them back into the story line.
The question now is if the clones are really dead? One would think that an advanced technology that is able to replicate humans like that are capable of keeping daily backups. However, in the "Tin man" episode they made it seem like it was not an option since all of the population died and the last survivor wasn't able to bring them back. Also, a great accomplishment for Teal'c and his clone in this episode when they took revenge for their father's death. However the episode didn't put too much drama into that moment which I wish they did. It was nice to see how two Jacks interact with each other. And as one would expect, not even Jack can stand himself! LOL The fighting scene was a bit childish though, the episode could've done much better without it in my humble opinion. Besides, I would've supposed that the mechanical Jack wouldn't have a problem kicking the real Jack's organic behind. Oh well, Chronus is dead. Unforuntately, there's more where that came from... |
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| PennyAfNorberg |
Mar 30th 2003, 8:31 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 237 Joined: March 11th 2003 From: Sweden/Link?ping/Ryd Member No.: 1,067 |
A question: who was the female gou'ald? it looked a bit like a blonded Hathor, but she is dead?
Nice that Cronos claimed Herator(?)'s domain after his dead, since Herator whantet Cronos domain for cooperating with Apophos, but it's a lilte bad that the fight got even easier for Apophos now oh well two less gou'lds of which one a system lord I wonder if the driods 'died' and if so would sg1 be willing to repeat the process, given some communications betwen the two sg1-teams they might to some good... for the record: i lied this episode and i wonder if micheal shaks isn't a good director... |
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| Jack |
Apr 4th 2003, 3:52 AM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: April 4th 2003 Member No.: 1,280 |
it was obvious he was directing it, as Danny, or @ least the robot one, gets killed off @ the start. and then oddly the real one aint around!!off on a mission with another SG team, he did that alot in S4!!
if you actually watch closely you can tell theres sumthing going on right @ the start when SG-1 (the replicas) come through the gate as they have the wrong gear....they make a big thing about them having P90's and then they have MP5's again...oh and T and Sam have no zats good episode tho |
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| ArisBoch |
 Apr 4th 2003, 7:48 AM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 533 Joined: March 21st 2003 From: current reigning king of Gondor Member No.: 1,162 |
i liked the ep- watching the team interact w/ themselves. now they know how everyone else feels.
and i don't think the mechanical oneill could kick the real one's butt. after all, they're the same person, so they'd come out in a stalemate if anything. |
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| Aceuss |
Apr 7th 2003, 5:09 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: March 25th 2003 Member No.: 1,198 Gender: Male |
They have the same personality however they are not the same. Jack is flesh and bones while the cloned Jack is metals and wires. In "Tin man" it was mentioned that the clones are stronger, faster, and better. They even showed them bending iron and jumping off high ground.  |
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| Drizzt Do'Urden |
Apr 7th 2003, 11:11 AM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 537 Joined: March 12th 2003 From: a galaxy far, far away Member No.: 1,083 |
in their little scuffle though, they seemed pretty equal.
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| mithwriter |
Apr 28th 2003, 6:24 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: February 26th 2003 Member No.: 885 Gender: Female |
Several things no one has mentioned about Jack's robot that I found interesting
1. Anyone else notice that the robot's hair was still all brown while Jack's hair still has the grey? That's because the robots don't age, so his hair won't turn color. 2. The robot's casual use of their internal communications systems.. "Wait, a sec, got a little static." That told me that they robots had, in effect, accepted the fact that they were ROBOTS and were using all the skills alloted to them...I mean think about it, if they were ever in "denial" about being machines I'm sure they would've resisted using such "Non-human" technology. 3. Jack's respect for his robot self. Sure they fought in the beginning..which of COURSE was childish, that's the way Jack is sometimes...but when the robot Jack was obviously more hurt than a "case of gas" as he put it, you could see real Jack's respect for his mechanical self... |
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| Apis |
Jul 4th 2003, 3:40 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,475 Joined: March 15th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 1,116 Gender: Male |
Was there ever a prequel to this episode? Teal'c said that SG1 engaged in battle with Heru'er to free the people of Juna. At first I thought that it was a third season episode that I missed, but now I don't think it was. Its not like the producers to do something like that.
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| ramuund |
Jul 10th 2003, 3:05 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: June 21st 2003 From: On top of the world! Member No.: 1,871 Gender: Female |
i can'y wait to his apisode again when it repeats on sky one, i wonder if they are still alive if they could ever come back? that would be good or did somethimg happened in that episode that won't allow that? sorry-like i said it has been a while since i last saw it!!!
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| Apis |
Jul 13th 2003, 12:11 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,475 Joined: March 15th 2003 From: Canada Member No.: 1,116 Gender: Male |
Was it? I don't believe that it was brown still, that was one of the things that stood out for me in this episode (although I suppose that I could have been mistaken) All the brown was is just hair dye (since I doubt that O'neill hairs would go from pure brown to grey in just two years) and since Harlin copied everything perfectly right down to the mole on Carter's ***, it would make sense that the brown may just be hair dye as well, so it is not an inconsistency if O'Neill's hair is grey. I did like the fact that the producers payed close attention to the fact that Daniel had long hair in season one. |
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| SyStEm_LoRd |
Jul 13th 2003, 12:40 AM
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Major  Group: Members Posts: 1,208 Joined: February 5th 2003 From: Australia, Whyalla, SA Member No.: 552 Gender: Male |
havnt seen this ep for ages..
i will have it on dvd as soon as its released here!! ill add more then! |
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| ribbondevice |
Jul 21st 2003, 4:17 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: July 21st 2003 From: Germany Member No.: 2,092 |
Hey, a good point! I was wondering about what ep it was, where SG1 freed the juna-people. unfortunately I have no conclusion for that yet. |
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| Aesir |
Jul 21st 2003, 5:05 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 4,404 Joined: June 14th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 1,811 Gender: Male |
I don't remember such an episode either, but remember SG1 go on lots and lots of missions but there isn't an episode about each one - In fact we know they go on many many more missions than we see. Sometime early in the series, Sam said they went on 3 a week I think, but it's bound to be even more now the Stargate Programme is more active. |
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| ramuund |
Aug 1st 2003, 5:43 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,514 Joined: June 21st 2003 From: On top of the world! Member No.: 1,871 Gender: Female |
no i don't think we'll see them again as i think they are pretty much dead- the bit at the end when robot jack asked if the real jack thought they were real enough now? and real jack said yes and then the sad bit as he said summit about being the end(?) and then his power ran out. it was really a moment. but saying that i thought it was well acted as you wouldn't expect to get to much emotion, perhaps respect, but nothing more than that for there robotic counter parts. Also did anyone else notice that moment between teal'c and sam- where the interviewer(?) asked them if they felt for each others situation and look teal'c gave- i haven't seen teal'c ever like that- perhaps something happened that we'll never know about? you never know?   |
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| Spacen |
Sep 18th 2003, 12:05 PM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,856 Joined: July 22nd 2003 From: Kansas City, Missouri, USA Member No.: 2,105 Gender: Male |
I wonder if they let themselves get copied again. That would bring back the possibility for robot SG1 to return.
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| Emmyloo |
 Sep 24th 2003, 7:48 AM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: June 7th 2003 From: Kent (UK) Member No.: 1,745 Gender: Female |
I thought this ep was ok, but not really one of my faves. I loved the way the two Jacks interacted with eachother, that little fight they had had me in stitches
 Whatever happened to Harlen? Now that the robot sg1 is dead, how can he manage to keep everything going on his planet? He said himself that the reason he made them in the first place was because he needed help and couldnt manage things on his own. |
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| Aesir |
Sep 24th 2003, 8:56 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 4,404 Joined: June 14th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 1,811 Gender: Male |
Well he managed for the ten when his friends died and when SG-1 went there, so he can probably cope. I'm sure other random travellers would go there though... in fact it's odd how it seemed like SG-1 were the first he duplicated. I would have thought that the Goa'uld would have been there and he would have duplicated some Jaffa and so he wouldn't have been so shocked about what happened to Teal'c... I guess maybe they were too evil or something. At least Teal'c is pretty nice even if his symbiote isn't, but most Jaffa won't be the same. |
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| Absynthe |
Oct 7th 2003, 6:26 AM
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Not only did he take care of it before, Sam (robot version, of course) has been there for what...3 "years" right? 3 seasons anyway. I'm sure that a Stronger, Faster, Better Sam would have made all sorts of things to help make running the "planet" much easier. She made portable battery packs for the robots right? I can't imagine that'd be the only thing she'd made.  |
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