Do they even have eyes? I can't remember... I thought they used some sort of echo-location... it would explain all the noise they make...

People tend to think Bats don't have eyes because they use eco-location but they still have eyes. I bet those nasty bugs do also.

Bats have truly superb eyesight... Echo-location is like an addition... it makes it even easier for them to find their prey.

Okay, I have been complaining left and right about Atlantis, but this episode was asbolutely awesome! I loved it all, from start to finish.

I have been saying, please, please tell us about Ronon. I have liked him from day one. I loved Ronon's flashback scenes showing us his life, his team, his home and just why and how he became the fighter that he is.

McKay getting shot in the glutius maximus, was hysterical. The poor military guy trying to get infrom from Rodney was so funny. I do believe McKay was wearing yellow/lemon boxers with some red on them. Were they lips?

I like Shep and I especially liked his scene between him and Teyla. Shep would not leave someone behind. In that regard, Shep is very like O'Neill. Even Weir said they would not leave someone behind, very Hammond/Landry like.

Finally, they made Teyla someone I could watch. Her scene with Shep was so good. Then when she kept telling Shep not to kill the Wraith. Ronon would be very angry.

This episode had great comedic scenes also. McKay and Beckett arguing about who would help them and be Rambo was hysterical. They argued so long, Shep, Teyla and Ronon had taken out the 25 Wraith. They Beckett flying the jumper and powering up the drone to take out the head Wraith was so good. Carson is not comfortable with the Ancient gene, but he used it to fly the jumper and the shoot the drone. Then facing Ronon, and McKay chickening out and saying it was all Beckett's idea and everything!

Oh and Shep saying he got six, and hearing Teyla say she got 8, then changing his kill to 9, and then 11 or 12, was so so funny.

A very good episode indeed!

I sooo agree Indy. It was awesome! Robert C Cooper needs to keep writing and directing. This was great. Just great!

I just finished rewatching it and I think it was happy faces on undies though, if it was lemons it would be a way for McKay to control his allergy in some way.

That was probably the funniest part of the whole Ep, Mckay shot in the ass!

"That shot in the ass served us well!"

Someone said something about how come McKay sat in the Jumper. Well, he could sit it was just painful for him. There should have been nothing wrong with him sitting on his ass. We do surguries on asses all the time and the patients can sit on thier butts no problem!

Medically the only thing I had trouble with was that McKay stated "I cannot feel my leg" that screams of sciatic nerve being injured. If that was so, he would never have healed that quickly if ever at all.

This post has been edited by Auntie Em!: Aug 6th 2006, 3:03 AM

Oh totally! While my friend and I were watching it, I said, "Oh look. They're having a lovers spat." Even my friend who isn't really into the slash genre totally sees the slashiness between Beckett and McKay. I think the slashiness between the two is great!

Well, we should take it into account that this is McKay we're talking about. Any painful moment would be clearly exagerated. Like that moment when we just had a splinter (a really painful one)...

First time this season that SG-A was more fun to watch than SG-1.

i LMAO when Mckay was shot in the ass. The look on his face was priceless and his sing-song while under the meds was classic. I loved the Lemon boxers

We found out quite alot in this one, Where Ronon came from physically and emotionally and about Sheps family situation.

I also thought that the Beckett/ McKay fight over the gun had some rather strong slash themes.

Typical Shep wanting everyone to think that he got more wraith than Teyla

Why can't RCC do more of these?

I agree, this episode was the best this season in my opinion. Due to the character development of Ronan that has been missing so far. And of course due to the comedic effect of McKay, absolutely hilarious! It's what makes an episode worth watching

McKay likes to whine...

But that was hilarious, McKay getting shot with an arrow, in the ass.

Though when you have a deep injury it can just seem like the surrounding area has gone numb. I cut my pinky pretty deeply with scissors a few weeks ago and part of my finger felt numb, and even still feels a little funky to touch though it's closed up.

Even though that was a fairly serious injury that Rodney sustained, I can still totally see him saying anything he had to in order to get the maximum amount of attention .

Finally a decent action episode where action outnumbered the talking.

Question: How come this Wraith ship had a male in command ?? For some reason, I thought a Queen was always in command of each ship.

Oh my stars, I thought I was the only one. It was definitely a slashy moment between Beckett and McKay, but also about how they felt about Ronon. Beckett to McKay, "have you ever had a conversation with him?" "You call him caveman behind his back." McKay, "It's a pet name, we have pet names." So yes, very slashy indeed.

Best .... ep.....ever.

And it was needed right now. We needed to see scary wraith not on ships. And we needed to hear about ronan.

The wraith were getting less scary for a while. I admit they all went down pretty easy, but still a good ep.

Well at least we found out what Ronon looks like when he is really angry...

That big guy was freaky... He was the scariest Wraith I have seen yet.

I'm sorry but the Wraith do nothing for me. I have never been frightened or intimidated by them. They are so cliche, that it's not even funny! A semi-Wraith, semi-Human, like Michael would appeal to me more. At least he wouldn't be cliche, and I wouldn't be laughing at them.

I have always been a fan of Ronon, and this episode just sealed the deal. His character was a fantastic addition to this show, with lots to work with. I am very glad they went back to explain (to a certain level) what it would have been like to be a runner AND a defender of your homeworld against the wraith. We have also learned that there were Satedians who made it off the planet alive. I forsee a showdown in a future episode? There was/still is much potential for Ronon and they are doing a good job at developing his character, but not too quickly. Now, if only they could start this with Teyla all would be good in the world of Atlantis.

Plus Ronon's armour was badass. Why use that also badass looking trenchcoat when you can use the armour AND trenchcoat!

Ronon already killed Kel... remember? That is the man Ronon told his wife about... the one who sacrificed his troops to escape himself. Like 300 Satedans escaped the culling.

That was episode.... SGA 206 - Trinity

I couldn't remember the specifics around who that guy was. I was thinking that he was some form of rebel leader or something .... it's been a while since I've seen early season 2 and there have been many a TV series watched since then. Thanks for pointing it out though!

I wonder then, is there a colony/refugee camp that has these 300 Satedians in it? (I'm thinking along the lines of the people of Ishbal from Full Metal Alchamest for some reason, probably because I recently watched the entire series )

Never seen that show... but I got the feeling some of the spread out, and some formed their little trading company thing with Kel as leader, though he is now dead...

Isn't it possible that the arrow was coated in a weaker formula of that sedative? Or whatever it was the darts that took down Ronan, Teyla and John? Couldn't that have caused numbness in his leg?

Yes, thank you! I had remembered that some had survived, but I couldn't remember how many. My question still remains. Was/is Ronon unique in that the Wraith cannot feed on him? That is why they made him a runner. Or is it something genenic to his people?