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post Feb 1st 2005, 6:58 PM
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Man, you guys need to understand that these Atlantis episodes are being shown too early. The latest SG-1 episodes are being shown on Sky One in the UK, and that's at "The Reckoning part 2" (Season 8 Episode 16), whilst we just saw "The Siege part 2" (Season 1 Episode 20).

The episodes are out-of-sync. If you are in the UK, you should watch StarGate with Sky One (And not download them if you want to enjoy SG to the fullest), because Sky One are showing them correctly, i.e. they're showing ep. 8x16 with Atlantis ep. 1x16, so since the next episode of Atlantis is the "Letters from Pegasus" episode (1x17), I think it's safe to safe that we'll see the SG-1 team talk about it in SG-1 in eps. 8x17 or 8x18 (I'd bet on 8x18) - But this damn Canadian channel showing Atlantis eps early to the world has just screwed it up for the less intelligent among us, even though you CAN watch and understand Atlantis all the way up to the Siege without having to worry about how SG-1 managed to sent a new military contingent etc, because you'll find out the details when new SG-1 is shown!

If you're going to carry on whining, you shouldn't have watched SG episodes out of sync then!
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post Feb 1st 2005, 8:09 PM
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I have an idea, of course, just an idea, I doubt it would paly out.....

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post Feb 1st 2005, 9:04 PM
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My thoughts is tha, Those people are not from the stargate command, They just didn't seem too right. Did anyone else get that feeling?
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post Feb 1st 2005, 9:09 PM
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Way cool episode... Finally some actual weapons on Atlantis itself--though, I wouldn't mind trading all of them and the ammo for equivolent number of squid-drones.

I think Sheppard will LIVE. maybe teleported from the jumper or some kind of escape pod from the jumper.

Speculation on JUMPERS w/ teleporters and other stuff: For a race that created mini-halo-but-on-a-planet-hidden-as-a-temple, the Ancients must have thought of a way to safely exit from anything in an emergency situation; i.e., they escaped doom on Earth via Atlantis, they escaped from Atlantis via stargate, and they extinction through ascension. ph34r.gif

SO THEY MUST HAVE SOMETHING UP THEIR NON-CORPOREAL SLEEVES. Or, I'm sure that they--anyone who wants Atlantis the way it is--will pull something out of their collective asses to ensure that nothing horribly wrong happens. cool.gif


Anyhow, it'd be funny if Sheppard gets back just in time to shoot Colonel Everettes they same way he shot Colonel Sumner king.gif
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post Feb 1st 2005, 10:21 PM
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Yup that was an awsome episode, did anyone else notice the extra CGI? (where the camera would zoom in and show different parts of atlantis) I cant actully remember seeing that in any other episode anyway I think its cool.

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post Feb 1st 2005, 10:34 PM
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yeah the way they did that was really cool cause they went out of the control tower panned over the city then over to the other building where the chair weapon was. that was really cool
poke the puddle thats what i was saying it looks like everett gets screwed the same way sumner did hehe yeah he could get shot the same way sumner did
but that troops not from earth im telling you its like their british!! the red berret hats just don't cut it for me...too non-US so british looking
fricked 3 part episode...gawRRRR maybe 4 parter cause the season openers usually have 2 parts but at least they play them together oy silly atlantis...so mean
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post Feb 1st 2005, 11:12 PM
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those hats did make them look silly...and they were too...marinish...like yes sir, no sir, 2 bags full sir...they have no personality.
I'm glad that Everette finally shows Weir some respect at the end and she gets to keep her chair.
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post Feb 1st 2005, 11:52 PM
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I thought the accent of the guy leading the troops was annoying. And whats wrong with the British lol (im British btw)
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 12:34 AM
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The thing i don't get is that it was the seige part II, therefore they would conclude part I to have a TBC on a part II your just toying with me. However it was the best SGA ep yet, i liked all the explosions! can't wait until Season 2
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 12:56 AM
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i'm glad that they had a lot of action in this episode but it did get kinda boring with everything just...repeating itself...
but there should have been more damage to the structure of Atlantis...i mean, really, with all the weapon fire there would have been quite a lot of hits on Atlantis and therefore more damage so that was kinda unbelievable to me and so i had trouble getting into it for awhile there.
As i've already said, it was a great start and with him finally warming to Weir, very good.
I'm not liking how they came in took charge and everything had to be done their way...so the people we're used to seeing weren't really there...they didn't really have much to say.
Didn't like the fact that they didn't mention the people who had been taken away by the Wraith...the ones on the balcony firing the weapons and were taken away by one of the darts.
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 1:46 AM
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You people do realise that those marines that went through were not exactly from the SGC. Didn't you listen when he (leader) introduced himself? He said he was a United States Marine Corp. That's why they wore different clothing, and didn't seem like your average SG unit.

Also, as if the Daedalus is going to be a Asgard built ship. If you watch this episode you would have heard McCay say that it was a SISTER SHIP of the Prometheus.
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 6:05 AM
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QUOTE(Eon_Blue @ Feb 1st 2005, 11:01 AM)
ok, well just watched the episode and it was a big disappointment.

Unrealistic to the point of pulling my hair out.

the new commander comes through with no corresponding mention in sg1, the man seems like an a**hole that o'neil would never put in charge, the written orders are never opened (on screen), his rude demeanor and insistance on finding the alpha site seem suspicious (i'll go into that later), the space mines were a ridiculous idea and doomed to failure from the word go, marines shooting hand held machine guns at the lightning fast darts seems like a waste of ammo and a stupid idea, they'd never hit them.

It all seems a little coincidental that the colonel arrives just in time, brings weapons and orders from oneil (with no mention of any of this in sg1 episodes), the mark II naquata generator is a piece od s**t, the cooperation of the jennai is unrealistic they wouldn't give up their nukes (just look at the US or any other country with nukes) the new jennai commander with no explanation, no daedalus (i'm sure was mentioned in prevoius episodes somewhere sg1 / atlantis) btu not with any decent upgrades or with a mission to atlantis.

Finally he predicaments all the main characters find themselves in and the general nature of the episode speaks to me as a freaky pointless test by the Ancients to see if the humans are worthy of atlantis (too far fetched i know :-(). + WAy too much happened in 1 episode ... the wraith, the jennai, earth, all the plans, and failures, all the sacrifies by main characters ... wierd.

Well aside from all that i can't wait to find out what happens, and i'll reserve formal judgement until the end of sg1 season 8 and the new season of atlantis.

Eon Blue

ok i'm a die hard stargate fan so please don't take any of my comments to heart or badly, i'm probably just a little frustrated AT THE CLIFF HANGER. let me know what u thin of any of these issues. + i miss RDA's humour in atlantis, and dr. beckett is my fav character.
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I agree with most of what you said. Their defense tactics were stupid to begin with. Somehow it all felt too coincidental and dramatic this time, although I normally don't mind since Atlantis is a dramatic series. Simply put, this episode wasn't believable.

And there is no point to the plot. It's almost as pale as part I. I hope it will all fall in place after we've seen the seanson 2 opener.

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post Feb 2nd 2005, 7:00 AM
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AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hate those pricks for making us wait another season to find out how they save themselves this time thought it was clearly obvious towards the end that it was going to be continued


This ep was heaps good, liked the special effects. And that new Evertt guy seemed like a wanker to start off with he turned out to be kinda alright.

Also, we all know that Sheppard wont die, the question is how he gets out of it.

Anywaz when does the next season air?? its gonna be a painful wait

Anyone got guesses how they're gonna finish the third ep
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 8:56 AM
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Aww now I have to go into hibernation for months sad.gif

Also I'm sad that the colonel is probably dead. Atlantis really could use a proper military figure like that in the next season because I think I prefer Weir in the secondary negotiator role judging from this episode with just part of the command...

Well I look forward to the next EP, shame its going to be so long before we see it.
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 9:47 AM
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QUOTE(Mental Case @ Feb 2nd 2005, 1:56 PM)
Aww now I have to go into hibernation for months sad.gif

Also I'm sad that the colonel is probably dead. Atlantis really could use a proper military figure like that in the next season because I think I prefer Weir in the secondary negotiator role judging from this episode with just part of the command...

Well I look forward to the next EP, shame its going to be so long before we see it.
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Actualy LT. Col. Everett will not be killded off cause the charicter is going to be
come a recuring charicter through out season 2
and mostlikely so will Deadless you know i'd love to see that ship head for the Geeni homeowrld and "thank" them for attacking the city that would realy make Koliath proud

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post Feb 2nd 2005, 10:46 AM
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The berets made em look like UK paratroopers I thought. The uniforms were the new marine uniforms for city fighting. They knew what they were getting into.

As for Sheppard living, I'm pretty sure the nuke won't go off.

Now that the atlanteans have the reinforcements and the ship, I want them to go kick some Genii ass. I had a speech for weir to make when she was blindfolded.

"What have you got, a few thousand people? No Nukes yet? I come from a planet of 6 billion, with explorers all over our galaxy, allies, and with starships on the way. We've dealt with enemies far worse then you, and soon my planet will have it's reinforcements here. You've just had to deal with 200 of us, but there's more on the way and we're the true heirs of atlantis. So I suggest you DON"T fu** WITH US."

The Genii are great villans, I hate em good. Really want to see Atlantis fu** em up. Calling em terrorists, stealing everything atlantis doesn't have bolted down, trying to steal atlantis. I really hate em good.
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 12:37 PM
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My first post here so hi everyone smile.gif

after watching the final episode i must admit that there are many ways this could go on especially with sheppard .
He got the ancient gene and is willing to give his life away to prevent the wraith from getting control over atlantis getting all the technology which would make them most likely a much bigger threat to every galaxy out there ....... maybe the ancients will make or offer him ascention as they did to daniel jackson and prevent him that way from getting killed .... maybe the left ancient he met in a former episode will interfer .
At least im quite sure he will survive his sucide mission somehow or be brought back a couple of episodes later .
The asgaard are able to travel through galaxies like the daedalus is about to and they might be brought in as well because they know that the ancient technology is beyond their own and i guess they are wise enough to let them not fall into the hands of any species like the wraith .
maybe the information about the wraith attack and the lost city of the ancients was shared with them (who should earth ask for help after getting this information else then the asgaard ? ) and i definitly hope that they will crossink sg1 and atlantis on that part so that we will also see the transmission atlantis send to earth and the reaction on that .
we will see on the next episodes of sg1 .

btw have i mentioned that i hate waiting smile.gif
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Just finished watching the show. It was soooo coool. I like the part when the gate activated and the reinforcements came. It would have been better if O'Neill were there..

I hate cliffhangers...
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Meh...CG was nice, good action. But the whole two-parter didn't really work for me.

I'm glad I decided to watch this and not wait for SG-1 to catch up, as Earth's arrival was n't all to spectacular anyway...I was hoping for at least one SG-1 cast member...
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I thought there was something odd about the Marines.. Not sure if they came from SGC... Well , anyway good episode , if good means 5 months suffering
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 6:34 PM
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theres nothing wrong with the british i was just saying that those hats look like them thats all
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Wow. That was definitely the best Atlantis episode (two of 'em) up-to-date. Was it just me or did Everrett sound like an advert anouncer? smile.gif
...and now we see where all that money goes to. Pyrotechnics! Hehe.

...They killed Grodin. NO! crying.gif You don't kill chevron guys, you noursh them and let them bloom and enjoy the sunshine. I thought the other guy would get it. Bah. Oh and hte multiple plotlines - great call - they should do this more often. These two episodes were so packed they felt like 4, not two! (might be the fact I watched the two parts and then the two parts of Reckoning tho.)

..Huge thumb up.

Oh. And they're nasty evil bastards. I don't want to wait fove months! bah.
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post Feb 2nd 2005, 8:54 PM
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Man, that was a good episode. The guys from earth were about to piss me off. I thought that episode was the best of Atlantis yet. The show just keeps getting better and better as it goes. I am so mad that I have to wait to find out what happens.
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I have to say this was a great ending to the season. Though I'm kind of annoyed that I have to wait several months before we see what happens to Atlantis and it's defenders. I just hope the coronel got wacked, he really pissed me off. He was freaking arrogant. We shall all wait with great anticipation the premiere of season 2.
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