Episode 7 - Poisoning the Well
Air Date: (US) August 20, 2004

The team gates to another world used by the Wraith as a feeding ground, but whose people are on the brink of a discovery that may make them immune to their enemy.

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They killed Steve! Oh no!

Atlantis is getting better and better each week. I really felt the gravity of their struggle, and their willingness to accept 50% losses so that the wraith would be destroyed. Superbly acted, though you just knew that the love interest was going to get it. Though, I'm glad they didn't show her dying on screen. I'm glad they were just with one another. It made it more powerful imo when she actually did die.

And was it just me, or did she look like a ghost of her self, almost wraith like, when she was laying on the bed? Anyway, thumbs up for this episode. I really hope they follow up on this.

Say hello and goodbye to Steve the Wraith, LOL
It stuck too, even ford called him Steve.

Decent episode.
Got some emotional insight into Dr. Beckett, the Scotsman.
Missed Mckay, I missed his obnoxious, I'm smarter than thou humor this episode. Oh well.

And we now have a way to fend off the Wraith feeding process...although at a cost.
It's last ditch at best. I want to see the team return to this planet and find out what happens later on. Maybe next season.

I guess they take the puddle jumper through the gate all the time now? Is it really necessary? If it is based on a planet, just rough it like SG-1..come on. Some of the best stuff happened walking to and from the gate. Or are there just a lot more space gates in the pegasus?

They can cloak if anything goes wrong if they take a puddle jumper. Plus, its super fast and the ladies love it.

Considering the expected size of the wrath presence in the galaxy it's reasonable to assume that any completion of their attempts to regain their full strength followed by a full scale attack suggests that it will probably be an end of the season clifhanger or next season premise.
It would take months to cull any heard large enough to sustain possibly millins of wraths.

But more importantly, the points.

1. Excuse me but if they were going to make such a sacrifice, I would think they'd keep the scientists, dump the leaders. I mean really? Who's more important? The scientists who make you your weapons, etc or some elected official who is and will get replaced at some later date? Having the doctor die seemed a major waste.

2. Why didn't they bring the guy to atlantis for the feeding just to make sure nothing went wrong and to allow them to use the ancients equipment to monitor things?

3. I am wondering just how easy it is for complete strangers from off world to gain access to your planet's leaders? If this happened on Earth you could rest assured that the world's leaders would never see the aliens except through a two way video meeting. Never in person.

4. And just how easily was it for them to be taken to their area 51 equivalent? These people are going to let total strangers near their most guarded secrets??? Again, this would never happen on Earth except for the fact we probably already have aliens at area 51.

5. Nice to see the Doc getting involved. Of all the characters I like him the most simply for the variety, and the fact I mistook him for Irish not Scottish.

MYOB'
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I thought it was good that Dr. Beckett had an episode.

I agree, it's too bad about Steve. I figured he would be around for atleast another episode or two.

I'm just glad Atlantis didn't go down the road Alias did (having someone in a jail cell all the time conveniently located near their base). Jail cell scenes get old after a while. I'm glad Steve is gone. Wasn't Steve the name of that pizza cutter that killed pizzas in that old snl sketch? Or was Steve the name of the pizza that got killed? I never can remember that. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Oooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Loved that whole "Steve" thing. Too bad they killed him though.

Lol! I think Steve should be the new commercial spokesman for SG-A! Or perhaps president? Really though, he really started to freak me out!

This episode's acting was superb, especially the emotional parts.

Perhaps Atlantis will be able to figure something out to destroy the Wraith through the knowledge they gained there?

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Good Episode. At least one of these shows is leaving the base again.
Would have liked more McKay but it didn't suffer without him.

One question though. No one thought to make this drug in bullet form yet?
Why inject it when this seems so obvious?

Intially yea, they were trying to make themselves immune to the Wraith.
But the after seeing that the stuff kills them no one even suggested making
a weapon form it?

ps. R.I.P. Steve

The episode was going fine until Weir opened her mouth:

"But the rules of the Geneva Conference state....."



You're in another GALAXY!!!!! The Wraith have no idea what a Geneva is, let alone the human rights laws of the NATO superpowers! My god, how dense of a statement was that.

Started off good (after "Affinity", I couldn't wait for this ep to start) and then slowly died much like Steve towards the end.

Overall: 5.

Col. Rocks out.

For some reason, I found it really hard to pay attention to this episode.

Anyway, in short, Weir is still an idiot (who gives a rip about the Geneva Convention in another freaking galaxy?! and she didn't expect that she'd have to make tough decisions? please.), Beckett rocks, scottish accents are foxy (all accents are foxy), and Steve-O was a bit melodramatic, which reminded me very much of the old familiar baddies, the Goa'uld.

I'm done.

Wow. That episode was amazing....Stargate died in SG1 and is reborn in Atlantis, it seems.
This episode *really* rung of classic SG1. They went through the gate, met a new race, explored possibilities, dealt with their own problems, and...the ending really took me by surprise. I didn't quite think it would end on such a sad note, but....When I saw the end credit come up, my heart skipped a beat...I wasn't quite expecting such a strong performance...
I thought this weeks episode of SG1 was good, and honestly thought SG1 would beat Atlantis this week but...wow, Atlantis "pwnd" SG1 yet again. This episode, IMO, was amazing.
It started off a little slow, but as the episode slowly morphed from a noble intent to save a peoples and then began getting out of control...It really took me in.
The acting was great, the storyline was great....this episode was really great, and it definitely went up and beyond SG1 average quality.

BTW: I think they should have used Weir when experimenting with the Wraith drug. If it worked, great! If not, no big loss. Either way shes finally gone! I mean, geneva conventions...??? Argh! Not expecting to make big decisions?!?!! Your in another GALAXY for ---- sake! Your the leader of a small expedition team thats fighting to stay alive, wtf do you mean you didnt expect to make big decisions?!

94/100 - Minus a few points for the slow beginning. This is the best Atlantis episode so far.

This episode sucked me in and would not let go. If you liked SG1 for the reasons I did (thought provoking stories, great acting, exploration, etc) then you MUST NOT miss this episode.

I thought it was a reasonably good ep, had hints of SG-1 in e.g. the other side and season 6's 'cure'. Not the best ep but worth getting 6/10. I can't believe Steve is dead!

Oh I know....that whole Geneva convention comment...I was like You gotta be kidding me! WHO CARES!

The drug supposedly mutated when the Wraith' chemicals (or whatever) prepared the body to be sucked out. And we don't know if even the mutated version would work when just shot somewhere into the body.

And if it does, what good is it to infect a single Wraith with a terminal disease that will take some time to kill him during a imminent battle situation?

That ep. was pretty good I'd say, they are finally settliing in and exploring the galaxy and meeting new civilizations as for the rehashing of subjects common people. the same thing has been said of SG-1 when they made similar eps saying that they were rehashs of eps in ST. But they always managed to do it in a new and refreshing angle and they managed it once again.
I honestly don't understand where the script writters wnat to go with Weir though, she seems increasingly troubled by her responsabilities, maybe shell step down and work in what she does best mediate conflicts between cultures in worlds that may have that problem.
Just thinking?
Unlike other fans I dont blame Torri Higinson for the character faults, she does a good job of portraying what the script demands of the character.

This post has been edited by RJLCyberPunk: Aug 21st 2004, 10:29 AM

This episode wasent bad, but, am i the only one who is getting really annoyed and p-o'ed a seeing other alien cultures in SG-A and SG-1 using WWII German KAR-98's, American M-1 Garands, and Russian AK-47's????????? and dressing nearly identical to us?????? come on, when i want to see alien i really want to see an pure alien culture not Alien-Humans.



Oh, and OMG! They killed Steve!

God yes, she looked pitiful. Finally a Beckett episode and then this - poor guy lol.

Loved how "Steve" often lost his cool and tried to grab Sheppard...the second time was damn close! Not quite as self-controlled as the Goa'uld and I like that, they're developing their own style.

I was hoping we'd get a few more steve cracks before his demise. Oh, well. Maybe they'll catch another one and call him Bill......or toss Weir through the Space-gate.....both are good.

Is there anything in the Geneva conventions preventing b----es like Weir from being used for expermintation to fight an enemy?

I don't think so

it was good thing they killed steve this way atleast he was usefull as he was not going to talk and it was geting booring with shepard and steve having the same converstaion.

the scientist should not have died but should have defected and joined SG Atlantis like jonas to help them against the wraith.

the ending was a little quick for me, not all the questions answered but a strong ending.

overall a great episode, i think one of the best so far.

by the way i just paid atteention to the Stargate Atlantis's starting score(Music), can any one tell me where i can get it in mp3 or on cd.

I think thats how it was meant to be...We gave them something hoping to help their ociety defend against the Wraith...and now theyre intentionally slaughtering half their population...If we did that on Earth, 3 billion people would be dead.

There's nothing more we can do, and thus whats the point of staying? IMO the ending was quite powerful.