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| BrandonTheGreat |
Jan 13th 2005, 9:55 PM
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Ascension, seeing that Wraith ship go down was so great, if only everyone in Pegasus was protected this way. Gotta like McKay's Star Trek references in this. Other than that, this was a pretty well done episode.
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| Desideratum |
Jan 16th 2005, 3:52 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 37 Joined: November 20th 2004 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 7,014 Gender: Male |
So Chaya knows she is and ancient, and knows that she is protecting her people. What is the point in having them devote themselves to her worship? Why not just allow them to live an areligious life of leisure?
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| Dafmeister |
Jan 18th 2005, 5:07 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Not a bad episode. It was obvious that she was an Ancient from the beginning. There wasnt much else that caught my eye in this ep. Not a brilliant ep, but not a bad one either.
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| ali |
Jan 18th 2005, 5:16 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: January 20th 2004 From: Gloucestershire, England Member No.: 3,298 Gender: Female |
I quite liked this episode, though I didn't think it would start to move so fast at the end. I guessed she was probably an Ancient or something else pretty soon so I had fun shouting at Sheppard...
What I don't understand is if she is bound by the rules of the other Ancients, that gives me the impression that they are still around, and if they were, why wouldn't they be in Atlantis? And had she been in Atlantis previously and just wanted to see it again, or had she never been there? Gah... I liked the fact that Rodney was so openly suspicious of her- it's always good to have a bit of an argument between characters. It reminded me a bit of 'Hathor' the way she seemed to have all the men so infatuated with her, and for a minute I thought it was going to turn into an ep like that. But yeah...pretty good ep overall. Next week's certainly sounds interesting... |
| fan_83 |
Jan 18th 2005, 5:36 PM
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Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: November 11th 2004 Member No.: 6,930 Gender: Male |
i think chaya has been there before.... she was part of the orignal ancients....
about them destroying the wraiths... perhaps the first ascended let the plaque and wraiths do their job to allow for most of the ancients to ascend otherwise there is no point in dying even though you are given all these cool powers..... Desideratum: they think she is just a high priestess... not the god ... as you recall from various episodes...in sg1 primitive peeps need a religion... so she provided one where she plays the role of high priestess.... |
| stargatesweetie |
Jan 19th 2005, 3:02 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: February 24th 2003 From: Birmingham UK Member No.: 846 Gender: Female |
I enjoyed this episode though I was surprised how powerful she was at the end- yes she was ascended but blimey. I was also surprised that Sheppard was unaware of her inability to interfere- did he not know about Daniel and his inability to help Jack et al when he was ascended?
That said another good episode |
| Christy |
Jan 19th 2005, 7:45 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
I don't think Sheppard knew much of the situation going on at Cheyenne Mountain.
So he wouldn't really know much about Daniel. |
| KoKi |
Jan 31st 2005, 1:57 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 35 Joined: January 12th 2005 From: Denmark Member No.: 7,564 Gender: Male |
why the the ancients not wipe the most wraith with those power???
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| Asguard's little grey man |
Jan 31st 2005, 3:42 PM
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#57
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| Dafmeister |
Feb 1st 2005, 6:08 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(KoKi @ Jan 31st 2005, 6:57 PM) Like Asguard's little grey man said above, they dont interfere with other races. But because that Ancient chose to interfere and protect the planet, her punishment was to stay on that planet (for eternity i suppose) and defend them. This post has been edited by Dafmeister: Feb 1st 2005, 6:08 AM |
| RJLCyberPunk |
Feb 11th 2005, 10:29 PM
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Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 337 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: Ponce, Puerto Rico Member No.: 5,415 Gender: Male |
I have to say this was an average episode. But overall it had pretty good points.
The Ancients angle was pretty interesting. a 6/10! |
| Sighfienerd |
Feb 12th 2005, 1:07 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
I find the ancients' code of ethics interesting. Their highest law is "to not interfere", which is understandable when it comes to the process of ascension. However, their non-interference wouldn't be considered "moral" in this situation, at least according to our beliefs.
The Wraiths are technologically advanced. Chayla's people are by comparison, primitive. They are totally pre-industrial, agrarian, and peaceful. They didn't have a chance in you know what against the Wraith. Yet, the ancients were perfectly willing to stand by and watch a whole race of "innocents" get destroyed. Chayla was punished for eternity for having the "human" trait of compassion. (She seemed to demonstrate human traits in more ways than one. In some ways, the ancients kind of remind me a little of the Nox who were also reluctant to make judgments about good and evil. However, the Nox did interfere by healing anyone who got hurt - unlike the ancients who would leave all to die. I don't think I like the ancients very much. |
| danielonmymind |
Feb 12th 2005, 1:28 PM
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QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Feb 12th 2005, 1:07 PM) I find the ancients' code of ethics interesting. Their highest law is "to not interfere", which is understandable when it comes to the process of ascension. However, their non-interference wouldn't be considered "moral" in this situation, at least according to our beliefs. The Wraiths are technologically advanced. Chayla's people are by comparison, primitive. They are totally pre-industrial, agrarian, and peaceful. They didn't have a chance in you know what against the Wraith. Yet, the ancients were perfectly willing to stand by and watch a whole race of "innocents" get destroyed. Chayla was punished for eternity for having the "human" trait of compassion. (She seemed to demonstrate human traits in more ways than one. In some ways, the ancients kind of remind me a little of the Nox who were also reluctant to make judgments about good and evil. However, the Nox did interfere by healing anyone who got hurt - unlike the ancients who would leave all to die. I don't think I like the ancients very much. i dunno whats goin on w/ the Ancients, i mean, their "code" is really lame. if they're so powerful, why cant they help others. i guess its something the writers had to put in there so there would be "drama", lol. but at least we know now what the Ancients are capable of. But what could be the plague that wiped them all out. I mean, couldnt they just heal themselves or something. I guess the disease must have been really really powerful. On the subject of Chia (sp?), i do feel bad for her though. being alone, and watchin other planets get destroyed while she cant do anything about it. bein alone all that time would just make me wanna die. i wouldnt be able to stand it. John and her got it on if u know what i mean. they seemed really to click. but how weird does that sound, "yea, im dating an Ancient". people would think hes crazy or something. he said that hed visit, i wonder if he really will? |
| Aquila |
Feb 12th 2005, 4:56 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: April 13th 2004 From: Cultivating American Beech and Chestnut trees Member No.: 4,810 Gender: Male |
All in all, I'd have to say this is my favorite episode of SG-A thus far...in fact, I liked it better than many of the past few episodes in both SG-A and SG-1!
Maybe it was the whole ancient-come-back-to-Atlantis-and-very-fond-of-a-very-young-in-comparison-Sheppard.....thing. I especially liked the fact where she put her hand on that one console and got it to work for the guy...pretty cool...and will definately be useful later on I suppose. I do especially hope that we see Sheppard return to Chaya later on in the second season...it's kind of cool seeing him in a relationship with an Ancient, and an Ascended one at that! |
| ancient01 |
Feb 14th 2005, 5:17 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Phoenixville, PA Member No.: 6,239 Gender: Male |
This one was better than SG1 this week, but I was still disapointed. I'm curious to see if they released any new information that will further the story. It really didn't seem like it, with the possible exception of the device that she activated. Thing is though, anyone with the gene cold have done that. As a plot device, this episode only seemed to show an emotional side to Sheppard. I could have done without that...
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| Christy |
Apr 4th 2005, 12:20 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
putting in a romance for sheppard with someone from a different world and with his sex appeal and the way the writers are also putting him together with Teyla and in a couple of scenes we have had a feeling of Weir and Sheppard may do something in the future and with this all happening so quickly within the first season makes me think of O'neil and this definetly does not put males in a good light.
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| Ilzy |
May 22nd 2005, 4:30 AM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: March 2nd 2005 From: Latvia Member No.: 8,299 Gender: Female |
This was the frst of Atlantis episodes I've seen in full. Thank god there wasn't much technical stuff because I watched it in German and my german isn't good enough for techno-babble
Gotta say that I really liked it and maybe I'll even start to watch Atlantis after this. The whole Ancient thing was quite a surprise (a good one) and made things really interesting. Chaya reminded me of Orlin, especially when she gave Sheppard the ancient-to-human "kiss", sharing their essence or what is was. Kinda fun to watch the scene and to know what's gonna happen next! |
| NemesisDesignz |
May 22nd 2005, 5:29 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 52 Joined: July 10th 2004 From: Knoxville, TN Member No.: 5,505 Gender: Male |
Chaya/Ashtar is F****ing HOTTT Shepard dont worry about Tayla or Weir getting jealous.. GETCHA SOME.. I think Chaya/Ashtar is the hottest girl ever on stargate of any season or series..
McKay: "Oh My God...He is Kirk." Hell Ya This post has been edited by NemesisDesignz: May 22nd 2005, 5:31 AM |
| Christy |
Jun 1st 2005, 6:13 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
woah...someone's getting excited.
Why are men so fascinated by women who are really attractive? Women are women, they are all the same. speaking of which...when can we see some plain janes on stargate? |
| General Jen |
Jun 22nd 2005, 7:11 PM
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Airman Basic ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: March 20th 2005 From: victoria, AUSTRALIA Member No.: 8,541 Gender: Female |
this ep was ok but i missed the action that the earler eps had and i want a bit more humor
the ancient should have told them who she was and did sheperd ever tell her that he had ancient genes? ford seems to have no use on the show wier is getting better iam understanding her role more |
| supra odin |
Aug 21st 2005, 4:03 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: August 21st 2005 Member No.: 9,934 Gender: Male |
Have also loved this episode but was wondering that if the Ancient were so powerful in the past and even more powerful now that they have ascended, and as we have seen "the others', and "OMA" in action y do they not help eliminating the Wraith, i know there policy of not intervening in fight between minor and inferior races, but they were enemies in the past, and the Wraith has also beaten them
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| Dafmeister |
Aug 26th 2005, 4:18 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(supra odin @ Aug 21st 2005, 10:03 PM) Have also loved this episode but was wondering that if the Ancient were so powerful in the past and even more powerful now that they have ascended, and as we have seen "the others', and "OMA" in action y do they not help eliminating the Wraith, i know there policy of not intervening in fight between minor and inferior races, but they were enemies in the past, and the Wraith has also beaten them Like you said, they dont interfere with the lives of those who are not ascended. It is below them. The Wraith are no threat to the Ancients now, so they have no need to take revenge. |
| blackbelt83 |
Feb 1st 2006, 2:31 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: October 15th 2005 Member No.: 10,345 Gender: Male |
why would the otheres let her effect anything on a lower plan but I have also wondering why they wouldent step in and just take care of the wraith you would think they would want to atleast protect atlantis. only shepard could get with a hot asended chick, that is awesome.
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| Dafmeister |
Feb 1st 2006, 7:31 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
why would the otheres let her effect anything on a lower plan but I have also wondering why they wouldent step in and just take care of the wraith you would think they would want to atleast protect atlantis. Chaya's punishment was to protect the planet that she lived on before she ascended because she stepped in to protect the planet when the Wraith first attacked. The others believe that they shouldnt interfere with any no ascended races and because Chaya helped the population of that planet, they made her protect it forever. It's the same reason why the others dont help to protect Atlantis, if they helped they would be violating their own laws. |
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