Cool!

Don't get me wrong, I loved this episode, but what was it's point really? To deplete ZPM?

Meredith Rodney McKay. His first name? How is that possible not to come up before?
Bro-sis moments were great:
-We're at war.
-Did you start it?

-Huh, first a solar system and now an universe?

And Rodney about Rod: "We're not keeping him." Like a pet...

So, now we are recruiting civilians just like that? Ok, I'll play along.

I absolutely loved how Shep just kept standing in the gateroom with his finger pointing at Rodney when he found out his first name while everybody else already went away...
Ronon killed with: "...Oh, that happened to you."

Lot beter than this week's SG-1.

Heh, this episode was freakin' beautiful... McKay's life finally explored and, like what... Jeanie proved even smarter than both Rodney and Carter...

Hey, they said that they almost finished the inter-galactic bridge. I think that it's going to be used in the mid-season two parter. And no ZPM anymore? I wonder how will they get another one...

dunno but they'll get a zpm just in the nick of time.

As far as a new ZPM goes, I'm still going with:

its a shame with the "near infinite power" failure. I suspect they would never do it cause that would give the good guys SIGNIFICANT advantage over the wraith. Perhaps painting a big bulls eye on the SGA for the Genii/Asurans to see?

i cant help but the wonder that the alternate McKay took the route of "being like everyone else to be cool" rather than "just go in your own little corner with the other nerds" that this McKay took.

i have the admit that last scene with Hewett and his sis was emotional. I'd imagine it had some personal emotions b/t them in there as well.

ummm, if there are asgards checking the math, why didnt THEY do the research about this? And if they tried and failed, how does the earthlings figure they could do any better? Oh well, better try than to just admit defeat.

Yeah, I agree. I think that's why he learned golf, to not only make friends with his Sheppard, but to also make brownie points with him, also. It seemed like whatever the other people in his world enjoyed, he made the point of liking it as well so that 'people would like him'. But lol on our McKay's "People don't like me?"

"he blew up a solar system" "MEREDITH!" *whacks* "it was uninhabited!" i loved the brother/sister funness. alternate rodney was too perfect. he was just wierd. i did love that last scene between mckay and his sis. i like her and i hope they bring her character back.


i wondered about that too. seemed a little inconsistent with all the other AU eps we've had in stargate


yes, that made me happy too. gotta love the teamliness.

Erm...I hate to be a hater. But, am I the only one who found this episode just the SLIGHTEST bit lame? I mean, the solution to sending Rod back was maybe 45 seconds of the episode and was so fast and reminded me of an old Star Trek show. Carter in it was kind of...eh. I mean, I love her, but I hate when they have crossovers that they don't really need to have one. I thought the episode was going to have more of a focus on a second McKay (at least, that's what the previews look like), but he didn't come in until the second half of the episode. *Sigh*.

But, I didn't enjoy it. Seeing Rodney (haha, Meredith) react to how everyone basically doesn't like him as much as they liked Rod, and the team always having breakfast without him. Wow. Well, I'm a Rodney lover. I mean, I used to hate his character. But, he's honestly really grown on me.

And bringing in Kate Hewlett was such a great decision. I loved her acting. And I definately wouldn't mind if her character became permanent or semi-permanent.

I liked Carter's "cute little canadian accent" line.

I'm a canadian living in america. I don't notice the US accents as much due to watching US tv all my life.

Question: Can the US viewers detect a canadian accent on McKay? I know he says Zed, anything else?

Oy. Now I feel stupid. That's Canadian? I thought that's what it was 'really' called, a ZedPM. Not that I gave it much thought, it was just one of those things. As in McKay called it that because he wanted to be technical and right as opposed to the rest of the group--wouldn't put it past him!

I do notice it from time to time. Especially when he say been.

For those that don't know, in Canada and certain other english speaking countries pronounce it with a strong e sound. In the US, we pronounce it more like bin.

In another ep this season I noticed Weir say it like, "Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen". It just really stood out to me.

I don't think Canadians have accents. I think they probably pronounce English better than Americans do, is all. Haha.

Well, actually...people from Quebec kind of have a throat-y accent. But not by much.

I do notice that Canadians have phrases they use more often than Americans. Such as "you know?" or "eh?"

My chorus teacher is Canadian. It cracks me up listening to her explain music, when she sometimes ends with "They have perfect pitch, eh?"

BUT...more amusing that Carter's line was the fact that when she said "Sorry" a few seconds later, she sounded exactly the same. LOL. Oh, beauty in it all.

This post has been edited by Lisa: Sep 9th 2006, 10:36 PM

They needed a reason to bring Jeannie from Earth to Atlantis, and they needed someone to do it. Had to be someone with clearance and given Carter's the scientist, she was the logical choice. Plus it gave us some more of those rare McKay-Carter moments that are so much fun to watch. I had absolutely no problem with the crossover. IMO it was necessary, and done well.



I agree it would be great to see her show up again. Kudos to David for making the writers change Rodney's sibling from a brother to a sister in Letters From Pegasus, that was a good bit of foresight that paid off well.
Obviously she probably wouldn't give up her family life to go to Atlantis though. Perhaps she could move to Colorado Springs and join the SGC as part of the lab staff....wouldn't interfere with her family life as much as going to Atlantis would.

Great ep. Memento Mori was alright but this was awesome. Very nice shot of the team at the end too.

Oh and Meridith

So do you think they going to try the project again if and when they get another ZPM? It sounds like what happened was a one in a google unlucky fluke that they tapped into an inhabited paralell universe. Perhaps they can come up with a way of actually checking a universe is uninhabited before they start drawing power.

Could it have something to do with the fact that in this episode, everyone kept saying Rod was from a 'parallel universe' while in all the other episodes we've had with Quantum Mirrors and such, they always say 'alternate reality'? I have no idea what the difference between a parallel universe and an alternate reality would be, but maybe in one you get Etropic Cascade Failure and in the other you don't?

'Course I could also be completely wrong and they mean the same thing. But still, no worries right?






Oh, and as a side note about the Canadian accent thing: Yes, Canadian accents are diffrent from American accents; some more than others. It depends on the person, really. I can hear Mckay's accent sometimes, but it's not as strong as my 7th grade Science teacher's; his you could really tell.

An alternate reality is a reality that is like our own, and has an infinite amount of possibilities on how your specific life turned out. Like with the Quantum mirrors. A parallel universe is one that a lot different than our own, and has a different version of your life playing out. Like...instead of Rodney being the name, the name was Rod.

Grant it, the difference is slim. But, that's what I've drawn in my own conclusions. I wish they'd specify sometimes. They manage to explain everything else in the show...

maybe because they didn't have the problem cos the rod that came over wasn;t close enough to be similar.. the carter that came over was pretty similar, and perhaps similar enough to cause the cascade efffect but this rod is too different..

or they didn;t have time to consider this problem and he wans;t here for very long..remember it took the carter a couple of day before the effect kicks in and they talked about how the more similar the reality is the faster it kicked in..

looking at this rod its pretty different..

or perhaps another theory is that the bridge is still active and thus providing a sort of sustanence for the rod and preventing the cascade effect... the carter that came over came over completely

side note: if they can find another quantum mirror, they should be able to find one that is inhabited and use that to tap into power surely there is some research into alternate reality in the atlantis archive

There is absolutely no difference between alternate reality and parallel universe... Or maybe one little thing, they use to call a parallel universe also an alternate reality, when it is inhabitted. They mentioned this in the episode, when you search through infinity, the chances that you'll find an inhabitted parallel universe are very very low. Two things about the Entropic Cascade Failure:

1. There wasn't enough time for it to enable (not really likely)
2. TPTB have droped it (more likely)

I liked the episode. I wouldn't mind seeing McKay's sister once a year or so.

Regarding the accents, the americans catch me down here when I say BEEEN. Weir using it isn't that surprising, I believe the actress is Canadian. Usually the canadian actors are trained to avoid those words, she messed up I'm thinking.

I laughed when the sister said eh right in the beginning of the episode.

I cringed when I saw Rod reaching for Rodney to slap him on the shoulder. I thought, uh, oh, this is going to be bad... Then nothing??? They can't occupy the same space. If they touch, nobody's really sure what will happen, but it will be very bad. At minimum, they cancel each other out. Worst case scenerio, it's like matter and anti matter coming into contact with each other. Boom... That bothered me a bit. Is it so hard to keep them from touching? It has to be difficult from a production standpoint to have the two touch to begin with. But I digress... I actually enjoyed Kate Hewlet's acting. Overall not a bad episode. It knocks them back down to pretty much square 1 (season 1) on the technology front. I wonder how long that will last...

This "can't ocupy the same space" thingy is from another movie. Remember how many Carters were in the same room in Ripple Effect? Was Schwarzeneger or Van Damme playing in that movie with the time travel thingy in which there was this effect?

And they are not matter and anti-matter... That would have been a great mistake from the writers. They are the same matter. So they should repel each other, not cancel each other out... So, no problem with touching each other.

Haha. Touching each other. Hahah. I'm so immature, but that whole image just totally amused me.

Right, well... ummm... I thought of that as well... but since I was talking about physics, I though that people will notice this as well.

Actually, we are composed of the same matter, so unless it is mentioned that a specific parallel universe consists of anti-matter, than there is no reason to believe that the inhabittants of that universe are composed of different matter.

Well done to DH for changing that line in 'LFP' from Brother to Sister. I think it worked so well because they were real siblings.

When McKay said 'gimme your hand' early on i knew that he was gonna beam her up to the Deadalus, I loved her reation to that when they beamed into Atlantis

One thing i noticed was the amount of mixing about that they did with the Rod/Meredith.. i mean Rodney scenes. How many times did they have one of them appear behind the other and move in front during a scene?

Not bad, Not bad at all.

I do hope that there is a way that they can bring KH back in a later episode.

9/10

I completely agree. I was just blown away at the end with the handshake! I mean... moving in front of and behind each other is one thing... but actually physically touching, SHAKING HANDS while you can still see both Rodneys and their faces... THAT was just awesome!