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| Arcady |
 Dec 10th 2006, 12:23 PM
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Season 3, Episode 17 - Sunday
Air date: 2007 An average Sunday afternoon in Atlantis is anything but ordinary after a bomb explodes. Episode Guide | Spoilers | Teaser (This topic is for people who have seen the episode to discuss it. If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read this topic.) |
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| Anubis drone |
Jan 16th 2007, 10:20 AM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 336 Joined: January 17th 2005 Member No.: 7,625 Gender: Male |
Hey, first poster!
 This was SG-1's "Heroes" all over again. I liked it though, but it seems a fair enough confirmation the series (not just the season) is going to end |
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| kalad |
Jan 16th 2007, 1:34 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: January 16th 2007 Member No.: 13,063 Gender: Male |
noooooooo!! they killed Carson!! come on!!! What The F**k!!! what do you people have against doctors... aspecially Carson!! This show sucks.....
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| AngelofDarkness34994 |
Jan 16th 2007, 5:18 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: January 7th 2007 Member No.: 13,002 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(kalad @ Jan 16th 2007, 1:34 PM)  noooooooo!! they killed Carson!! come on!!! What The F**k!!! what do you people have against doctors... aspecially Carson!! This show sucks..... Seriously I still can't believe they killed Carson. |
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| Cereal13killer |
Jan 16th 2007, 5:20 PM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: April 17th 2005 From: Canada Member No.: 8,841 Gender: Male |
I don't think they're ending the series quite yet (As far as I know they've been signed to do another season). Also, I read someplace (probably on this site) that there have been long-standing plans to kill Dr. Beckett off... For whatever reason.
The episode itself wasn't great and basically foretold Dr. Beckett's death halfway through. The end with Rodney was touching, and left it open for some sort of Ascention story line later in the series, but it just didn't feel like a real, gutwretching, major-character death episode. (Exploding tumours? Come on!). It was basically a means to an end to kill off a character to have the sad little moment with Carson and Rodney at the end of the episode. The episode could have been done much better with the same end. |
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| Revan |
Jan 16th 2007, 5:51 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Anubis drone @ Jan 16th 2007, 10:20 AM) Hey, first poster! This was SG-1's "Heroes" all over again. I liked it though, but it seems a fair enough confirmation the series (not just the season) is going to end Nope, given there is a 4th season coming. I thought this was a great episode, top notch. I was hoping for bagpipes...  We got to see that these characters have lives of their own, and there is much going on behind the scenes that we see none of. I guess it tells us that we should appreciate every moment, because we never know what might come along. |
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| NoTTy |
Jan 16th 2007, 6:15 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: August 24th 2006 From: Montreal, Qc, Canada Member No.: 12,373 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Cereal13killer @ Jan 16th 2007, 6:20 PM) I don't think they're ending the series quite yet (As far as I know they've been signed to do another season). Also, I read someplace (probably on this site) that there have been long-standing plans to kill Dr. Beckett off... For whatever reason. The episode itself wasn't great and basically foretold Dr. Beckett's death halfway through. The end with Rodney was touching, and left it open for some sort of Ascention story line later in the series, but it just didn't feel like a real, gutwretching, major-character death episode. (Exploding tumours? Come on!). It was basically a means to an end to kill off a character to have the sad little moment with Carson and Rodney at the end of the episode. The episode could have been done much better with the same end. why not exploding tumors??? there are wraiths... there are goaould.... whats ur point?? nice episode... >=D |
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| Xen |
Jan 16th 2007, 6:38 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
Great ep, except I think they should of gone into more detail about the tech. I was getting lost at first, also who was the guy the Wier had lunch with?
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| Revan |
Jan 16th 2007, 6:52 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Xen @ Jan 16th 2007, 6:38 PM) Great ep, except I think they should of gone into more detail about the tech. I was getting lost at first, also who was the guy the Wier had lunch with? I believe he is a scientist, who likes Weir. I liked the conversation McKay had with Brown... About marriage and such... that was so awkward, and he did a poor job of explaining his meaning...Why not, "I meant that I would like to get married one day in the future, just not right now"... seriously...  |
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| Xen |
Jan 16th 2007, 8:54 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
Ah, thats what I thought. They should of showed him, before that EP though. Was confused, seeing that happen. I still can't belive they killed Carson.
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| Revan |
Jan 16th 2007, 9:01 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Xen @ Jan 16th 2007, 8:54 PM) Ah, thats what I thought. They should of showed him, before that EP though. Was confused, seeing that happen. I still can't belive they killed Carson. What didn't you understand? The random scientist that had the hotts for Weir? I felt bad that Teyla's friend Dr. Houston got killed, and, that they didn't do anything more with what Ronon said about Sheppard and Teyla. I wanted at least some nuance between Shep and Teyla to come of the revelation, and of Beckett's death. |
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| Xen |
Jan 16th 2007, 9:03 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
Yeah, and the fact they just threw that in. Yeah, I felt bad to.
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| Revan |
Jan 16th 2007, 9:57 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Xen @ Jan 16th 2007, 9:03 PM) Yeah, and the fact they just threw that in. Yeah, I felt bad to. Well Weir should have a personal life too. |
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| snoop1050 |
Jan 16th 2007, 11:04 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: January 25th 2006 Member No.: 10,991 Gender: Male |
another boring atlantis episode i cant even remember the last good atlantis episode anymore
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| Protoziggy90 |
Jan 16th 2007, 11:09 PM
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Second Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 581 Joined: March 3rd 2006 From: NYC, NY, USA Member No.: 11,304 Gender: Male |
I thought that the episode was of great quality. Though this has been said, and will be said many more times, I can't believe they killed Carson. What was the reasoning behind that?! And what is this I hear about there having been plans to kill Carson for some time?
On a seperate note, though I myself doubt it, I present the question: Did Carson ascend or is that just wishful thinking? Because that last scene on the pier was interesting. Do you think McKay would really be talking to himself? I also feel so terrible for McKay, who will forever live with this on his shoulders... |
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| Lagger |
Jan 16th 2007, 11:43 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
we all know mackays got issues, and if he did ascend how come they got a body to send back??
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| Protoziggy90 |
Jan 16th 2007, 11:55 PM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 581 Joined: March 3rd 2006 From: NYC, NY, USA Member No.: 11,304 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Lagger @ Jan 16th 2007, 11:43 PM) we all know mackays got issues, and if he did ascend how come they got a body to send back?? Well McKay does have issues... But as far as the body goes, there may infact be a lack of a body, which could be a reason why McKay hesitated to actually say the word 'body' to Ronin at the end. It may seem obvious to most that that hesitation was just due to the shock of the situation, but TPTB, if they ever wanted to bring Carson back, could use that as an excuse... This post has been edited by Protoziggy90: Jan 16th 2007, 11:56 PM |
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| Revan |
Jan 17th 2007, 12:12 AM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Protoziggy90 @ Jan 16th 2007, 11:09 PM) On a seperate note, though I myself doubt it, I present the question: Did Carson ascend or is that just wishful thinking? Because that last scene on the pier was interesting. Do you think McKay would really be talking to himself? I also feel so terrible for McKay, who will forever live with this on his shoulders... I don't think the end sequence was real... I think it was all in Rodney's head. He wanted to say goodbye very badly, so he imagined himself doing it.  TBH, I really didn't feel their pain... the pain of loss, the void caused by a death... I didn't get as sad as I should have for that type of episode. |
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| Lagger |
Jan 17th 2007, 2:32 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
hmmmph....... so true....
he hesiatated before he said body.... and beckett always seems so... calm + rational.... almost like daniel..., but i thought ascension needed the physical component which we dont ahve , / need help with? |
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| Ben64 |
Jan 17th 2007, 2:41 AM
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| rkenshin |
Jan 17th 2007, 3:19 AM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: August 15th 2004 Member No.: 6,063 Gender: Not Telling |
Damn, I hate it when they pollute the ocean with those golfballs.. Couldn't they just whack them through the Stargate?
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| JTMAG1 |
Jan 17th 2007, 3:37 AM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
I thought this episode was done very well. I was extremly entertained and deeply saddened. As soon as they showed the guy with teh disposal kit, I knew he was going to die, but I had no idea about Beckett.
Some things that bugged were the fact there 5 people died that day, and only one had a memorial. The two scientist were cataloging the lab in the middle of the night, alone. In 'Tao of Rodney' they had an entire team of people. I wonder how they are going to handle the replacement situation. |
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| GateShip#1 |
Jan 17th 2007, 4:06 AM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 100 Joined: October 5th 2005 Member No.: 10,286 Gender: Male |
man, this sucks! why carson man! his cool! but the episode was good.
This post has been edited by GateShip#1: Jan 17th 2007, 4:07 AM |
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| Protoziggy90 |
Jan 17th 2007, 7:45 AM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 581 Joined: March 3rd 2006 From: NYC, NY, USA Member No.: 11,304 Gender: Male |
It occurred to me while re-watching the episode that Carson shouldn't really have died in that explosion. If you compare the explosion size in the hall to the one at the beginning in the mess hall, Carson shouldn't have taken any more damage to himself than Teyla did at the beginning. The only explanation I could think of was that the second explosion was much bigger... Any thoughts?
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