Excellent episode, in my person opinion, especially for a clip show. Good old Woolsey, I had a feeling he'd end up being a good guy.

just finished it, not too bad, Woosley isn't as bad as he first seemed the Veep is still a SOB, I'm not too sure about the new President.

I read somewhere that the new President was a old friend of Hammonds yet he never seemed to know him, oh well. Lost City will hopefully be good, Quick Question the clip they showed of the gate room being shot up, any one have any idea what episode it was?

Very interesting ep, not my favourite but very vital to the story. I'm glad Woolsey had a change of heart
I thought the new president was so funny at the begining asking that guy who all these ppl were following him ad the guy was like....um...they work for you Mr President then he said, "are they gonna follow me everywhere" lol.

This post has been edited by Jon The UK SG-1 Fan: Feb 24th 2004, 4:05 PM

yeah that bit was funny, i recognized Kennedy and Lincon busts that he was looking at was the 3rd Bust FDR? (im from the UK so not too sure on US Presidents)

Good for A clip show. but thats all, nothing special. I can't stand the idea of the show being set in the future [even if just for a number of months.] as soon as the lost city has finnished i will give a break from Sky. i don't know if i will bother watching season 8 if it is going 2 be this crap...

The lost city better kick some serious a$$ or my confidence in the stargate franchise has been well and truely lost

Although I had my doubts because it was a flashback episode, I thought it was pretty good! It had a good storyline and few flashbacks so I was pleased. The fact that the president now knows what Kinsey is up to is also pleasing, he will never get his own way! And its good to know Agent Woolsey is on our side aswell! Anyway, I think the true intentions of the president were well known throughout that he was taking the Chief?s side of the story was obvious to all parties! I was just thinking, ?Any second now, Thor will beam in and say to leave the SGC in command of General Hammond!? I didn?t think that Gen Hammond would give up the disk so easily either, but I suppose it was put to good use!
This episode was a great stepping stone to the final 2 parter finale?s! The Lost City next week should be explosive and then the week after that the final episode should be immense!! (I thought the fact that they showed O?Neill getting the Ancients knowledge downloaded into his brain wasn?t just a coincidental clip shown from a previous episode!!)

I can?t believe its going to be finished in 2 weeks! Can you imagine next year at this time, the Programme will finish for the last time, no more SG-1??.Thank God we have a whole season left (20 episodes!!, and Atlantis!)

The episode gets 7/10 for me!!

I have a complaint though?when they showed the destruction of the system lord?s fleet at the hands of Anubis in Full Circle, they made it look like Anubis that said ?Your time is Up?, when in fact it was Yu?.that was VERY stupid!!

As has already been said, given that tonights episode was a clip show, it was actually pretty good-on this occasion there was a decent story line. I like the fact that Woolsey has "redeemed" himself and shown that atleast he is honourable. The sooner Kinsey gets his come-uppance the better, that man makes my skin crawl .
Looks like the underlying "political" currents are being set in motion for the next season.

I agree with the fact that, " Ohmygosh- not another clip show"- however, well done to the characters and writers- they actually seemed to pull it off on this occasion! In plain ole english- I liked it!

I like the president. I think he's amazingly understanding for someone who just found out about the SG program, if not charismatic and intelligent to realise just what a devil that Kinsey is. That Woolsey appeared to be siding with the good guys by the end of the ep and to that I say, "Good for you son- you're picking the right side to join."
But I just wanna say one thing to end off my post;

"Can we kill KINSEY? Please? Can we huh, can we?" *Childish voice*
He's such as _sshole- if I had a sniper rifle- I'd make sure he got what was coming to him and I mean not taking some "poxy" shot at his chest!
(Anyway- seeing as you all know my, frankly worrying psychotic tendencies I'll just finish off by saying... I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK KIDS! This ep is a perfect way of leading into the series finale...)

I am very happy to be able to write this and say that I liked it. Much better than Disclosure in my opinion. Brfore I watched it, I had a clear idea in my headee of what I was going to say about it. Waste of time, nothing episode....etc. but I just can't.

It seems like it will be a very important episode to look back on in season 8, what with the many developments that we saw. Even although it was very good on first view, I think that it is an ep. that I will watch again, perhaps at the end of season 8, and say "yeah, that all makes sense now".

On the downside, it was another Earth-based episode and a clip-show (to some extent) and that kind of ep. can only be so good. Hopefully *on knees praying* this means that all the money that must have been saved from these eps. will be poured in to the Lost City to give us a special effects bonanza.

The best part of this ep. for me was definitely the new President. What a guy. I'm so glad that they put a decent, down to earth sorta guy in as the president. "Who are these people?.......shouldn't I know who they are?" Brilliant!

Overall, it was good for what it was - a clip show - but it wasn't great. Definitely better than last week though. 7/10.
All that's left to say is 5 words.....BRING ON THE LOST CITY!

Last thing:

Yeah, you're right about that. It seems like an almost impossible mistake to make in a clip-show but somehow they managed.

Yu: Your time is up.
Anubis: Of that, you are gravely mistaken.

Good spot Raz.

I liked when Woolsey said "I just hope history remembers me as someone who did the right thing".

***
makes me hate kinsey more

very interesting to watch, i enjoy this side of sg1, nice reuse of the kickass Thor Scene and mabourne has been in this season even if it was only a clip but still!

....hello?? I'm sorry did they replace tonights Stargate with an episode of the WEST WING!!! GEEEZ - well it looks like RDA aint the only one getting some 'time off'

all that aside, I did actually enjoy this ep. It was really well acted and I guess it was essential for some plot development. I like Woosley and I like the new President too, should be interesting to see how this all pans out.

NEED MORE JACK THOUGH GOD DAMMIT!!! need my RDA of RDA......*exits to SG1 Guys thread* (woooosh)

I actually liked this episode though normally i say god no not a clip show please god help us (as i did) but i watched it and found myself very interested.
I loved the Sam/Jack bit where Kinsey implied there was more, as he thought he'd won the President over.. Ha ha ha sucker!!

Anyway 6 days and 22 hours to go all those in the UK and who dwnload the episodes as they are aired over here ( or sumtimes before)
* does happy little dance* That's all folks!!

Brilliant, if only all politicians were like the new president then the world would be such a brilliant place. I mean how politicians do you think would be impartial AND have a good sense of humour!!!

I loved how Woolsey decided to do the right thing. Although i just think he tries to get to the truth of anything, so i don't know whether it was a change of heart because he was just doing his job and even said he would continue his investigation into the SGC. So i can?t say whether i think he is good or bad, because he is neither. I have confused myself now

Anyway i also loved Woolsey saying, "I just hope history notes that i did the right thing" (or something to that effect). Then the president said "but who's version" (again something to that effect). Because i liked how it was a hint that Woolsey or anybody else can't just split thee world into Good and Bad, and that there are many shades of Grey. (or i am doing what i usually do and look to far into it)

Also in that scene i thought "Oh no" because (i have no idea why) i thought that the president would turn out to be fake, using on e of those holographic projects from "foothold" and would kill Woolsey. However i now think that would have been a tad over the top.

Overall 8/10, i really enjoy the more political show.
Bring on the final episode!!!!!

Flashback episode - ugh Although it's the best flashback episode by far, and despite it being one, I actually almost quite liked it. Atleast there has certainly been worse in this season.

I like this new president guy. I think he's kinda funny and likeable.

For some reason, I felt sort of sorry for Woosley when he said "I just hope history remembers me as someone who tried to do the right thing" I've never liked him before but now I do, he's a good man at heart...

My last point: Damn but this build up to The Lost City is killing me! This week is going to go by oh so slowly

Just watched it, great for a clipshow, but a man with integrity working for the us government (or any government) I found hard to believe, perhaps he's got his own hidden agenda.. Good humour as well even with the old odd couple of jack and t'ealc.

I don't think so. It's one of the reasons Stargate is that much better than other shows. Not only is there something for everyone, it manages to do them all very well.

a good episode, as good as I thought it would be - and then some. People might bemoan the political slant that the writers pursue every now and then, but when it boils down to it, it's the very best way to root the sci fi into a believable and convincing setting. Besides that, it's yet more proof that Stargate does the best clip shows in T.V.

Usually, political episodes pop up in sci-fi shows when writers are feeling a bit brave. From the beginning, stargate has chosen to tier the story with multiple story threads.

I liked it more then i thought i would, thats 2 episodes that jack hasnt been in though i knew he wouldnt be. Hopefully he hasnt been in 2 so that hell be in lost city in a decent amount. What do you think?

As a clip show it was quite good, i did think something was up with that anubis yu wrong voice thing i knew somethging was odd.

I thought that the episode could have been more complete though.
But quite good

I thought it was better than 'Disclosure' but I'm not really a fan of clip shows. Having said that, there was a lot more of a storyline in this one so it wasn't so bad. I was actually shouting at Kinsey at some points...he should be beaten. I liked the guy that kept standing up for the Stargate programme and SG-1.

But no Jack godammit!

EDIT: Invisible painting, I think you're right. He should be in the Lost City quite a lot. If he's not, there's gonna be trouble...

This post has been edited by ali: Feb 24th 2004, 5:39 PM

A second straight episode without O'Neill.
Woolsey wanting to take down Kinsey and the NID.
Hammond being the only cast member to appear in this episode.
Oh, did you people see the new president (Henry Hayes) act kind of like O'Neill, at the beginning of the episode.
I wonder what Kinsey felt (or was thinking) after they left for recess.


God, I can't wait to download the next episode.

As much as I hate flashback episodes, I have to give this one my seal of approval. The one piece that made things interesting was Woosley gaining a conscienous. More of the chess game that politicians play but you can anticipate the build up to the eventually downfall of Kinsey or whatever effects may happen when it all hits the fan. When it all hits the fan, the residual effects are not equally distributed.

The more I see Kinsey, the more I want to see his azz kicked. I'm sure many of you will agree with that statement.

Hmm, good episode.
I liked how they talked about O'Neill having the ancients knowledge downloaded into his brain and "transforming" him. A hint at things to come perhaps?

A lot less clips in this one, which i thought was good, but the lack of any of the main cast was dissapointing. Still the best Political based episode to date though, and sets up The Lost City very well.

I'm so excited about next week! With the quality of the last few episodes being sub standard, I too hope that all their resources were diverted to the finale.
The next week is going to go so slowly, I probably won't be able to sleep next Tuesday night (Time difference means it airs wednesday morning my time, then I download it)

This post has been edited by GuNdj: Feb 24th 2004, 6:59 PM

This one loses several million points for being a clip show and being a confusing poilitical show but gains several million by actually being pretty good as a clip show goes.
I do think the clips were very selectively chosen to lead us in to, what I suspect, The Lost City will be all about though. Not that this is a bad thing, but it did feel a little lacking in places...not much in the way of any action at all and some of the clips they didn't show that they could have. In all I felt like it was very much a series ender. A let's tie a few things up before the big finish type of story. Maybe that was it's original intention before S8 got the go ahead.

I didn't like that stupid "interpersonal relationships" comment. As if we need Kinsey supliementing the ramblings of manic shippers as well! No seriously. I honestly think that if there'd ever been any real evidence in the files that Sam and Jack were a little closer than they ought to be then, even reading between the lines, that Kinsey would have rooted it out and split up SG1 a long time ago.

My only real main gripe about this one (other than that it was a clip show) was that I didn't feel any real sense of drama or danger or that it actually went anywhere in the end. It basically ended at about the same status quo as before with just a hint that the NID might be a bit dirtier than we've been led to believe. I was kind of expecting a sort of cliff hanger ending...say Anubis starts attacking earth, or someone marching into Hammonds office and telling him to pack his bags. I guess what I'm saying is somewhere it lacked dramatic weight.
On the really plus side I thought the acting all round was absolutely top notch. So much so that could actually forgive them for only including about two minutes of new footage of anyone remotely considered a regular. Also the quality of the acting actually made me care about the political toing and froing going on. Woolsey surpised me by being half decent, but it felt totally in character. The president simply rocked. What a great guy. If only the real one was like that.

Ah no Stargate and no action though. What will the action fans make of this?