The photos on the mantle are of a baby (presumably Charlie) and of SG-1. Carter picks up the baby picture, then puts it down and turns to face Jack as he comes down the stairs to give her a beer. She refers to the family picture which is mounted on the wall to the left of the stairs, under the larger shot of Mars.

There is a small continuity error with the photos, however - when Sam replaces the baby photo, it is quite close to the team picture. When Hammond comes in, the baby photo has moved to the left...

Couple things I'd like to mention that haven't been mentioned yet.

1 - I like how they told us what happen to the old archive device; the power source of the device was depleted when O'neill used it. I was wondering for a long time why they wouldn't attempt to stick another person in the archive and try to get out more information. Possibly Jonas since he was a quick study, and he might have been able to absorb the information and utilize it without having the information overtake him.

2 - I like how they showed Daniel's bravery again when he almost jumped into the archive device, and Jack being the wise and knowing that only Daniel can translate. We all know O'neill would be brave enough to do it but showing that Daniel was willing to do it brings back some of the "merdian" memories.

3 - When Carter went over to O'neill's cabin, he offers her beer then he says "Want a glass? I could wash one." That is CLASSIC right there, gotta love it.

Hi guys,
I am reading your comments and this whole forum since a long time , but now i want to say somethign to this great episode. Because i can't really understand how some people can call this episode only a Teaser, it is so much more than that. There were more story-twists than in any other episode and we get some movement into the Stargate Project.
Another thing that you did not mention here is the future of Hammond, because if i remember correctly the president sayd, that he needs Hammond, because of his expertiese. So we can be relieved that there will be someone watching over the SGC who hast enough experience.
The president is really kewl here, because he does the right thing, he does what Kinsey wants him to do - what is absolutely neccessary, because as he says, the Stargate can't stay in the hands of the military - but he choses a person like dr. wier, where he knows that she will be acting against the Kinsey! And i dont think that she is stupid: she just does not have any experience with the Go'auld and because of that she of course wants to negotiate, this is absolutely reasonable.
The only thing I fear is the power of Kinsey, because if he does not get what he wants he may try to remove Dr. Wier by force and assasinate the president.
I cant stop writing , there are many more things why the next episode will be so important, because most of these things may be solved: Kinsey, Hammond, Dr.Wier, Teal'c, Jack, The lost city, etc. - i have not read any spoilers so i have no idea what will happen.
Astonishing episode, 9 and a half points, 9 would be too less, but i too want to keep the 10/10 for Part 2, i hope there will be not too much action in it, because the plot is much mroe important now.
Deathcrow

Oh come on everyone wants some action and there very likely is going to be a lot too, which will be good as we havent seen any decent action in a long time. It will cover a lot of things but theres bound to be action in it and the adverts on sky do also point to this being the case.

Oh and welcome to the forums.

Yup, came up here to post that too - I just got it after several viewngs. The camera angle at that point and the fact that the focus has been on the photos on the counter just prior to that moment is a little confusing and I can understand why the previous poster thought they were the same one - I did too for a while.

What had puzzled me on the initial showing was that the photo on the counter and then in closeup (as I presumed they were the same at that point) were framed differently. One a horizontal rectangle and one a vertical rectangle. Course once it clicked and I realised that they were two different photos - one on the counter and one on the wall - that solved that mystery. <G>

And...everyone wants action? Well, not really. It's way down on my list, although I guess an episode wouldn't be the same without some action to balance it out. Having said that and earlier having said that I can take or leave cool SFX and space battles....caught the full length trailer earlier and can only say...wow! Those space battles looked pretty darn cool! <g>

Albion

Excellent episode! I liked the humour, and I also like Dr. Weir. She's a hotty and a smart one at that. I must admit that she does look similar to Sam, as someone mentioned before. Its sad to see that they are swapping actresses for Dr. Weir. I really, REALLY hate it when shows swap actors/actresses for the same character. I'd rather be introduced to a new character, then have some imposter take on the role of an existing one.

Did anyone else think that the special effects in the beginning looked sharper, and better than usual? Especially when the Alkesh was bombing.

Can't wait till next week.

Was that Herak I noticed getting executed by Anubis' Kull Warriors (Super Soldiers)?

this was without a doubt the best sg1 epsiode ever, it had everything kinsay on a power trip, anubis & his evilness, oneil being heroic. The final showdown with anubis will be a real climax.....

louspiel no it wasn't herak being killed it was someone else

I think a lot of us have been saying that prayer!!!

This was Stargate. Something that we haven't seen a lot of this season. I thoroughly enjoyed this ep and thought it was great, but if watching it next to other Stargate eps of previous seasons, it wasn't the ultimate. I feel that one of the reasons everyone is going so crazy about it is the "abstinence theory". I.e. if you go without something for a long time, then you have it, it's like the best thing in the universe!!!

Fab points (good points do not do justice):

Jack's back!
TEAM SG1's back!
JO'N interaction with everyone, esp Daniel - felt very nostalgic!
Sfx
Fantastic script - wisea$$ comments - humour - action - everything!

Seemingly stupid points (bad is too harsh):

Dr Weir being put in charge of the SGC without knowing anything about it and having no military experience. I felt that this was insulting to Gen Hammond and the whole project.
Kinsey - he has always been written so we love to hate him, and I like the way he is getting darker - but saying that they can't go after the Lost City full stop when there is possibly an all out attack looming - that was too implausible even for Kinsey. Didn't buy it.

Bad Point:

The Jaffa turning into jibbering wrecks in front of Anubis and the Supersoldiers. Jaffa would accept their deaths with honour, even though they knew it was not their fault. I can understand if it was played this way to make the SS seem more formidable, but at the expense of the respect and reputation (to us) of the Jaffa?! Also they would not talk back to their god like that, unless the seeds of doubt are sown amongst Anubis's Jaffa troops? We can only hope!

Quotes (could go on forever, a lot have already been mentioned):

Funny: DJ: We were driving past your house and saw Sam's car and Teal'c's one eyebrow raised, you know the way it does?

Cool: (Translated - I want you to stay put don't want you to think I'm fussed) JO'N to SC: Finish your beer, then you've got to wait an hour before you drive home.

Most touching moment:

The look on Teal'c's face when he hugged JO'N goodbye.

To be honest, I just can't take Anubis seriously as a villain and have no idea why the Jaffa or anyone else do either. <g> I think the TPTB made a bad mistake with him. He's just too much a clone (no pun intended) mix of the evil emperor and Darth Vader from Star Wars. And he's so over the top in his use of language and acting that I half expect him to sport a large mustache and start twirling it in the manner of Victorian villains. Or someone to yell out "He's behind you!". He'd be quite good in a panto.

So every time he appears on screen I don't exactly get tense. Just roll my eyes and want to laugh at his theatrics. He can't get killed off quick enough for me. He's really dumbed down the whole serious threat of the Goa'ould for me. Which is a real shame when Goa'ould like Osiris and Apohis were so good at making chills go down the spine and really did seem threatening and able to do serious damage to our heroes. With Anubis I half expect Jack to just throw a bucket of water over him and him to go out squealing, "I'm melting...I'm melting...."


Albion

After nearly two years we have finally got back to basics. A classic episode that i'm sure you'll all agree is definatley one of Stargate's Finest moments. i suppose we'll have to make the most it while we can. Roll on September thats all i can say, next stop season 8. Does anyone think there should be a season 9?

I agree with you Albion, which is one of the reasons I was offended by what had been written for the Jaffa.

If we think of what Anubis is - he should be terrifying! Even the JO'N has identified him as the biggest cliche of all, I agree, I find him a bit cringeable!!!

BTW, have you seen the "doctored" picture of him in the TV Zone special, stood behind SG1 as they were climbing out of the gate in Death Knell - it's hilarious!

This post has been edited by PinkPeril: Mar 4th 2004, 12:51 PM

Can you guess waht my favorite line of the episode was?

Give up, here it is.

ramuund i'm not american but from what I know about the US Military Defcon states are as Follows DefCom 3 is all's ok usual trouble keep an eye on it, I believe Sensative Instalations are kept at DefCon 3 constantly, Defcon 2 is War is Iniment, Weapons are tight but live shots are loaded, Defcon One is War.
I assume Defcon 4 and 5 are similar to 3.

hope this helps

This is what the DEFCONS are:

DEFCON 5 Normal peacetime readiness
DEFCON 4 Normal, increased intelligence and strengthened security measures
DEFCON 3 Increase in force readiness above normal readiness
DEFCON 2 Further Increase in force readiness, but less than maximum readiness
DEFCON 1 Maximum force readiness.

I found them at the following link if anyone is interested.Link to DEFCONS

Finally got to see it last night, and have watched it once more since then. My impressions are the following:

1. Nice to see the 'real' Jack and 'real' Daniel back in to their old selves, both in true character and in their relationship to each other. Thank you Wright and Cooper!

2. Excellent use of plot and pacing. From the very first scene there's an underlying feeling that the 'clock is ticking' for everyone involved. Next time you watch the ep note the following.
- Jack mentions he'll be at the SGC in 30 minutes, then shows up late.
- Weir being late to get to the White House.
- The President gives Weir a 7 minute interview for the job.
- SG1 searching the ruins and Jack mentioning they could have Goa'uld coming any time.
- They run out of time and options at the depository.
- Bra'tac's announcement of an attack fleet in 3 days
- Jack knowing he has 3 days to get his affairs in order.

3. Underlying theme number two: The aquisition of knowledge.
- Jack trying to get Daniel's help in crossword puzzle.
- Weir trying to play catch-up with the reports on the SGC and her new job.
- The depository which contains all the answers they need, but will take time to access.
- Jack's reluctance for this mission, then has no option but to sacrifice himself to achive their goals.
- Anubis's failure to get the knowledge he wanted.
- Jack's reminder to Carter that her smarts were too valuable to sacrifice to the Anicents knowledge.
- The dialogue between Jack and Teal'c.
Jack: You know something I don't?
Teal'c: I believe it is you that know something I do not.

4. Finally, some little things I noted on the side that I thought were funny or worth noting.
- Jack tossing his used beer bottle caps all over the house. Liked that flip he did with his fingers. Cool.
- Weir struck me as being a little too young and way over her head. Didn't seem able to cope with the job until she told Kinsey to get out of her office.
- Loved the scene between Weir and Daniel overlooking the gate.
- Anyone else notice that when the SS's executed the Jaffa that they fired from one arm, stopped, then fired from the other? Does this mean each arm weapon only has a limited number of shots? Or did they just not feel like shooting one arm in a sweeping motion to cut them all down? Hmm...
- Teal'c leaving in his full Jaffa uniform. In the beginning of Stargate's first season, that armor was the symbol of the enemy and all Jaffa warriors. Now it is one that symbolizes uniting all Jaffa against the Goa'uld and getting their freedom.
- The battle scenes were well executed. All the effects were fantastic.

okay, that's all I can think of right now...not that I expect anyone to actually read the whole thing...but hey, its my nickel, so there ya go.

edit: almost forgot to mention the funniest shot in the episode....Director Martin Wood's cameo in the elevator w/RDA. I was cracking up.

This post has been edited by mithwriter: Mar 4th 2004, 8:18 PM

Excellent ep 9.9/10.

Lots of homour, good action and Jack playing a significant part, what more could you ask?

Having seen the trailer at the end of the ep and the other one i can't believe that they didn't air them back-to-back, and sorta wish i'd waited till friday.

Poor Jack getting the anchients knowledge again (well it had to be him, Carter is too smart, Daniel is neede to translate and Teal'c is too important as an ally)

Roll on Tuesday.

A really cool episode. Thanks to mithwroter for pointing out the whole time and knoweldge connection. I was thinking something along the same lines myself.
Overall I thought this was a great episode with lots of everything that makes Stargate what it actually is. Good team work, humour, real danger, good interaction, a bit of action and great effects.

I think you can really tell this was a slightly dumbed down movie script though. This isn't a criticism but it did feel a whole lot grander and, to an extent, slower in it's set up which is the kind of thing you get when you've got more time to tell the tale. Again, not a criticism, just an observation, a lot of time was spent on establishing Weir. This would make sense if she's going to become a regular but seems a bit wasted if she's just in it for a week or two so I'm guessing she'll stick around a while (I'm not spoiled yet for S8 or Atlantis so have no idea).
Someone mentioned a youthfulness about her and a Sam lookalikeness, which I also noticed. I also noticed the way they went to great lengths to ensure that all our regular team found her likeable.

I loved the whole ease at which they interacted as a team, the whole team bonding thing and the private little Sam and Jack moment there. Yeah it was shippy if you project it that way but subtle enough not to piss off the non shippers. Just the way I like my ship.

Kinsey was so nasty I hated him. I don't think I've ever been driven to feel such hatred for a TV character ever before. Kudos to the writers and to Ronny Cox for pulling it off so convincingly. Incidently, I really hope he turns out to be just a normal evil human. I'd find the fact that he's just like you or me and yet still the most insidiously evil threat to the SGC much scarier than if he turned out to be possesed by something.

Only complaint was that I felt the "to be continued" cut wasn't in quite the right place. it would have had much greater dramatic tension if they'd cut it as Anubis' forces reach earth. Somehow Teal'c traipsing off to Chuluk didn't quite leave me gasping in anticipation. Actually, I've always felt that Stargate has a big problem with pacing two parters just right like this. They get it just slightly wrong more often than right, hence why their two parters always seem to flow better as one continious piece. Again though, if this was an original movie script it probably would have played out perfectly.

I absolutely loved this episode!! In my opinion, probably the best of the season and a huge step up from the disappointments the last couple of episodes were!!

Favourite quote probably has to be the atomic weight of Boron= 10. Jacks answer- fat!! And the scene in Jacks cabin has to be a classic! I was loving every bit of it!

I'm really looking forward to Tuesday now..it's just bound to be spectacular.

It would make sense that each arm has a certain amount of charge, else I guess the warrior could just fire continously limited from 1 arm. So i'm guessing each arm has 10 shots then has to recharge or something.

Or they could just be trying to look cool.

No, haven't seen that. Is it online anywhere?

Albion

This post has been edited by Albion: Mar 4th 2004, 6:54 PM

I'll try and get it scanned in...

watch this space!!!

Hey, just finished downloading it (btw how is that looked upon here, I'm in Australia and we're stuck way back at teh start of season 6 and they give it no respect, when its on they don't tell neone it is so i normally miss the first few eps and they keep putting things on instead of it ) it is an awesome episode.
Love the quote from Jack: "Three days from now, thats a Thursday, thursday is no good for us" ROFL . Can't wait till next thursday arvo (wen i am able to get the next one)