Man what a great ep. Couple of shipper moments if you ask me and they were more noticeable. In other eps they have been pretty subtle, but you could really see them last night.

Cant believe we have to wait till Jan 6th now.

What an episode- I liked the change of surroundings and more human feel epiosde- we had interactions with non-classified people and by the way....

Dr. Lee said that he told them everything- o.k so you would think that they could have shown some reaction too that- i mean, stargate, aliens, healing devices- yep all run of the mill stuff that honduras rebels come across all the time

As for the shippiness- i liked it and as for the people who were saying that it would make them sick if there was too much- don't worry- it is more concern than all out eyes met across the room, fly into each others arms sort of thing- we'll have to wait till the end of the season for that!

I thought the un-dead rebel was exellent and those eyes! uuuhhhh

I loved the Burke? That's his name is'nt it?- anyway he was the bomb and i loved his wacko laugh!

The exchange at the end of humour (the bit where Lee is holding the device) and Daniel shuffles away!

Overall, this episode was alot different to what i expected and i LOVED it- come on January 6th

Ok, unlike some, i didnt think this episode was great, but it was definately an improvement on the previous season 7 eps (inculding Evolution Pt1).
I was left feeling rather disapointed after watching Evolution Pt1 last week, and was glad to see that Pt2 redeemed itself to a certain extent. Like i said before this ep was good, but not great, it was an improvement to the Season, but i still dont think it was up to scratch compared to other Seasons.

I was quite happy with the amount of Jack in this ep, in a way it was kinda like old times, in that if you blink you wont miss him.

A nice amount of shippyness too. They showed they cared about each other without being too 'in your face' about it. You probably wouldnt have even noticed it if you wernt looking out for it, it was all very subtle, but just the right amount for me.

I also enjoyed the humour aspect of this ep too. E.g. Daniel shuffling away from Dr. Lee at the end...... and also the bit where Daniel picks up that rock just as Jack kills the bad guys and kinda just sits there with it even when Jack comes over to him, i was half expecting Jack to say something like, "And what were you planning on doing with that????"

Like most have already said, that SS army was very Star Wars, but it didnt really bother me. Although, i am a bit afraid that they have made these Super Soldiers seem just that bit too indestructible. I heard somewhere that *possible spoiler...maybe i dunno* Anubis will be defeated at the end of Season 7. If that is true, i hope its not by some lame/obvious thing, as right now Anubis, accompanied by his SS army, just seems too indestructible.

One thing i was wondering was about the SS weapon that Jacob had on his arm. Did we see him fire it at an SS? I dont think he did but i could be wrong.
Anyway, so far we havent seen a weapon that will in any way do any harm to a SS with that armour, and i was just thinking that maybe their own weapons could. I assume (i dont think its been stated) that the SS weapons are more advanced, so maybe they could be used against them.

They gave that other Goa'uld a name? I was listening for one, but I don't remember it being mentioned - I guess I just missed it.

Come on, there's no way they would even contemplate mentioning Jesus in this way on Stargate... bringing up any modern religion in any way that suggests it might be related to aliens etc., is just asking for trouble

As a fellow anti-shipper, I will confirm what Arcady said... it's not too bad. What there is is very mild and just the odd thing here and there with them asking about each other's well-being, showing they care... from reading the spoilers of what is to come in the Season it does not look good though

A good sequel to part one (duh, as in it was not an anticlimax as opposed to part two following part one). More Jack screen-time (always a bonus, especially this season), Daniel getting to run around the jungle and more of Anubis and his "SS".
On a "comic touch" I like the bit at the end when the other guy was holding the device and offered it to Danny, who hobbled to one side and politely refused to hold it.
Is this the turning point for season 7? I hope so.

so do i
and i like the way political correctness went WAY otta the windoe with Thoth, the goauld. great to see him just get killed

they gotta do this more often

and i do like the homage to star wars. just as long anubis doesnt make death gliders like tie fighters ill always be happy

OMG can't really describe that ep but woo hoo!!

i was on the edge of my sea the whole time

bring on jan 6th

Good ep, NOT great unlike other eps in other seasons. When I saw the army I was like WoW That bit with the rings was good. Thanks 4 the pic Raxor .

I liked some of the humor in this ep like when silier [sp] and Jacob where having a chat. "You had helmets in thoose days? Sir?"

I think at the beginning of the episode, Sam was disappointed that she didn't get to go with Jack. I also think that she is afraid something was going to happen to him.

my bro was working so i had to record the ep for him and as i was rewatching the end and i noticed that right at the end i heard someone in the background laughing and i dont know if it was suposed to be sam or jack laughing but i sure didnt sound like them oh well

Well I would be pretty surprised if she wasn't worried about him given that they are friends and the missions they go on are pretty dangerous. In fact, it would be pretty unrealistic if she showed no worry at all, even if she was just trying to be professional, it would show a little. I hope they don't take it too far and make her appear really worried about Jack a lot but her neglect Daniel and Teal'c. She should still care about them both almost as much.

Totally loved this episode, felt like a little kid when the supersoldier appeared i prcatically scrmed. And my new best mate is Burke!! I loved the guy he was sorta like Rothman but kooler!!
Was that a little ship at the end as well there was definite eye contact i felt, but i'm just gettin excited for the 2nd half of S7 now! Wooooooooo

a couple of statements, and alot of questions...

After having watched almost 130 different sg1 episodes, I must say that this 2 part is the best serious showing that they have done.

As for predictability, I made 3 predictions durring the show...
1) that the evil goa'uld henchman (Thoth?) would be killed by Anubis for his misplacement of Jacob
2) The room with the holding tanks would contain a queen that we would get to kill
3) That closing the doors on the kull warrior wouldn't help much (especially that a door whose opening is a diminishing dimond as it closes would be stopped by the arm of the warrior.)

Well, 2 out of 3 is too many for me, especially considering Thoth died anyway

I have to wonder why Jacob took off the armor, it would help him blend in, as well as protecting him. Also, i asume he was ably to fire his weapon, based on the fact that the weapon is the only thing he did not take off, and by the way he held it with his other hand. We already know that the kull warrior does not need his second hand to fire the weapn, so why does Jacob?

Also, does anyone know if a kull warrior has 2 such weapons? There are protrusions above each of his wrist...

any one know why the guards hassened to the shack right after killing the reanimated guy? I would have though there whould be more important things on their minds than the captives, whom they probably assumed were not in any shape to escape. Possibly to ask more questions since their guy just came back to life?

I Loved how Dr. Lee asks if daniel wanted to hold the device, and daniel said it was safe, and then inched away from it.

So does the device have the power to animate the kull warriors? also, why did the one guy go insane so much faster than the others. even daniel appeared to be under some wierd influence as well at the end, and yet the other 3 bad guy's minds seemed uneffected by the time of death.

I also have to wonder what happened to agent burke? If he killed his teammate back then, why is he still working for us? They may have given him an unfavorable possition, but if they don't trust him, why anything at position at all? It appeared that Jack hated him, but why did burke hate jack?

Finally got to watch it. and hell yeh was it awesome. anubis was not wearing his cloaky vest thingy, and gave the whole big speach thing to about 10 000 SS.. whoa.. and wat bout the rings that get messed up when the cargo ship was leavin the planet. and the ss well hope he can fly...

Okay, just got done watching it and...

It wasn't bad...that's about it. It was a light action story that fullfilled its requirement of giving the audience a laundry list 'things' about Anubis and his new army. Basically it felt like someone placing a piece of a jigsaw puzzle into a larger picture. "Okay, kids, this is what you need to know now about Anubis and his buddies." Btw, I liked the "Hail Anubis" thing...I thought it was well done and stands on its own without being compared to Star Wars.

Meanwhile back on earth, Jack teams up with someone from his military past, rescues Daniel, and rekindles aquaintance with said friend by end of episode.

There were many notable things that redeemed this from being a boring ep.
1. The score used for the South American setting. Very nice.
2. Little moments between J Carter, S Carter , Teal'c and Bra'tac.
3. Props to the guys playing rebels. In many tv shows, the whole 'interrogation scene' has the potentional for cheeziness because its been done to death (no pun intended), but it came off as a legitamate threat to Daniel and Lee. Well done.
4. Jack was in it for more than 5 minutes total...always a plus.
5. The ring transporter sequence...now that was funny!
6. Daniel's reaction to Jack's appearance.
7. Daniel's reaction to Lee's offer to hold the artifact.

And finally...all this talk of shippiness. Gotta tell ya, I need to wear the same x-ray glasses the shippers are wearing, 'cause I didn't see it. I think what's happening is that there's been such a lack of that element between these two characters that people are reading WAY too much into stuff and becoming so desperate that they are willing to translate ANY interaction between these characters as something more than what it is.

Wait for the real thing, kids. It's coming. Just a feeling I've got.

Man that was a great episode. It had action, adventure, suspense, and really cool alien technology. It will be intersting to see what they do with it. They could cure all diseases perhaps. Plus the new threat of an army of supersoldiers was a real shocker. They could od some real damage. All Anubis has to do is send one to a different planet and they could cuase some major damage, tus making it easier to take over the galaxy.

Overall this was a pretty good episode. It seemed to me that the producers did a fair, well balanced display of both plots. The shippyness is something that I could call nonexistent, meaning it didn't bug me at all.

We learn more about O'Neill's black ops past and a past wound is brought to closure. More of the sinister plot of Anubis and his plans to take full control and the development of the super solider. This episode did a good job in setting the tone for the second half of the ride.

Twas very good.....

I only watched the squinty version since i'm on dialup and it prolly won't be shown in aus till next august or something.

Things i loved:

The guitar riff underscoring all the south american scenes
Jack and Daniel screentime (WOOHOO!!!!)
Daniel with the rock
Danny whumping
Daniel shifting away from Lee at the end
*Buff* scruffy Daniel
Jack, snarky jack
Burke (I *lurve* enrico colantoni)
Jack background stuff
Jacob

Things i thought a bit iffy:
the little shippy stuff between Sam and Jack. Nothing too over the top but.....hmmm.

yeah okay so my view was pretty shallow....Anyhoo, rocking ep....

This ep was great! just hope the rest of the season stays up on this par.

When they saw all the krull(they where called this several times during the ep) warriors in the hall! I was expecting someone to say need for C4 but there remember jack wasn't there and he would of been the one to say that.

Well think back to Evolution part 1 when SG1 used various methods in knocking the SS unconscious, one of which was C4. Which had no effect what so ever. So your plan would never work.

But a Naquadria bomb on the other hand....that might have a lasting effect.

Yep. Tell me is it nice down there in Egypt right now?
You just keep right on ignoring the obvious mate.

Seriously though this was exactly the type of "shippyness" I like. Something that's subtle enough that the non shippers don't even see it, and enough of a carrot to dangle out for those who get excited by this kind of thing. FWIW I thought it was mildly shippy but I probably wouldn't have spotted it if it wasn't for some of the more avid shippers on the net fine tuning my Shipper Projection Radar for me.

Personally I thought Sam seemed more concerned about Daniel at the end. He was clearly injured while Jack (possibly for the first time this season) was in one piece. Jack's concern for her could easily be interpreted as nerves over her commanding a mission without him there to guide her so it works either way if you're a shipper or not.

Anyway that's just how I see it.

andy4an
I wouldn't assume that just because the weapons are used by the SS it means that they are the one things that can harm them. I think that would be far too easy, especially when you consider how their armour seems to work. It can resist all other types of energy and impact weapons and, at the very end of the episode, we heard Jacob suggesting they were going to try and engineer a weapon to defeat them. I would have thought that between them someone would have thought of trying out their own weapons on them so it's safe to assume they cannot harm them either.

dude holy sh*t that was a good episode
all those super soldiers....if they can't find a weapon against those guys, earth and every other planet is seriously screwed. but i can't help thinking jacob should have kept that armor, he said it was surprisingly light...ud think they could use it on missions. Might be of some help

You're right, but maybe if they used enough C4 it would work simply because enough of the structure would be destroyed that it might mean they all fell into the lava that was below the facility on the planet's surface. Of course I guess the armour might protect them from this too, so we wouldn't know

It does seem as though the armour is pretty invincible, so much so that it even renders them impervious to forces being exerted upon them. After all, not only did it protect it from the C4 blast, it also seemingly prevented it from even being knocked over.

If the armour is really thick etc do u think the SS could have survived that fall from the cargo ship lol. The armour might have shock absorbers

This post has been edited by Jon The UK SG-1 Fan: Dec 18th 2003, 5:39 AM