A huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge 10/10

MAGNIFICENT

U gotta luv those X302's going head on to the Gliders. That shot was great even if it was a little rushed. Most of the Gould shots and X302 shots were rushed IMO but the beautiful weapon thingy made my day.

Ronan seemed like a sob brom the beginning and I didnt really trust him. Atleast I'm happy he didnt get a chance to relay the position or anything. And Bratac whooped his ass. GO BRATAC.

Atleast Canada was informed about the attack. WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE . I'm not Canadian yet but it was cool

Great storyling. I have to hand it to the writers. 7 seasons and still can come up with amazing cliffhangers. The ending did seem a bit rushed unlike Full Circle. But when u have to run halfaway across the galaxy to find something in your own backyard, u have to forgive them

Now THAT was an SG1 episode to remember. I loved it. I take back what i said about season 8. If season 8 turns out like this ep, it will be excellent.

I loved the bit with Kinsey and Weir on the phone to the President. I reckon he'll be back in season 8 though (or even Atlantis???).

Loved the scene with the 302's coming in to help SG1. What happened to the other Colonel that commanded the Prometheus and the other officer that Walter replaced?

Good ending too. Wonder what happened to Anubis? Did he die? Did Oma/the other Ancients save him again (like in the final ep of season 6)? Cant wait to find out. Bring on season 8 and Atlantis.

I haven't seen it yet, i missed it due to Man Utd v Porto but soon as i get in from work/gym tonight it will be the first thing i do!

Sounds like a quality episode from what i've read

You know, never thought of that. LOL - Ronson must be pissed.

BTW, I keep meaning to ask this - hasn't Hammond been demoted? I'm at a loss - knowing zip about the military - as to how going from General in charge of the SGC to Captain of a spaceship is a promotion.

Oh and forgot to say earlier - the moment I spotted Walter on the Prometheus my heart stopped. After all the speculation as to whether the ship would be taken out by Anubis, I was just sitting there on the edge of my seat thinking, "Don't you bloody dare!"

Albion



This post has been edited by Albion: Mar 10th 2004, 9:20 AM

I suppose cos Hammond is pretty much the only person who could advise on the threat of the Goa'uld. Perhaps cos Ronson wasnt on Prometheus was a factor.

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Perhaps because Don S. Davies (Hammond) is not going to be in season he wanted to go out with a bang.

I honestly thought, due to DsD leaving the show, that he was going to go out with a bang- but die!

I wonder what will happen to General Hammond now. He will, probably, retire on fat generals pension!

This post has been edited by ramuund: Mar 10th 2004, 9:30 AM

I did find that the ending was far too rushed, there wasnt enough shots of the battle scenes with the 302s/303/death gliders/alkesh.

Also does anyone else think that the prometheus has AMAZING shields? They can stand up to a lot of fire from annubis's capital ship, which is bigger than the Ha'taks and id rekon even a cheops class. So even with asgard designed shields the promethius shouldnt have been able to stand up to more than a few seconds of his assult. Bearing in mind when osiris's ha'taks took out thor's ship... Slight gripe there.

Also i would have loved to see a ground assault, the supersoldiers were bairly used, and it would have been nice to see some of them on the ground! While im at it id have loved to have seen the ships taken out, instead of just reporting it over the phone, it would have put an edge on what was going on.

If i sound like i hated the episode, i didnt, i loved it, but i think everyones mentioned all the good points already!!!

9/10

We did see the ships being taken out.

First, the energy thingies took out the gliders on their way out. But we only see 2 explosions according to my count. And all the other Hataks were not shown a lot since they were concentrating on showing Anubis's ship being taken out. But we did see the energy weapons going to all ships blowing them out. Also keep in mind that the guy was probably reporting as we were seeing the ships being taken out so it wasn't much of a deal really

Yeah. A great one. I think the best episode I have ever seen.
Actors were fabulous, they are very convincing, mostly perfects in their characters. Special effects so beautiful and a story that keep us in an exiting feeling. I am so glad of this Season Final. It is so great, just perfect.
That will be very difficult to wait Atlantis/8thseason...

it was absolutely brilliant!!

i too felt it was a bit rushed at the end, but all the same brill

it had everythin a good episode needs, action effects and shippyness!!

i loved when teal'c went to talk to o'neill and o'neill just put his hand to his face, really sweet ( was it some sort of ancient power to transmit thoughts?)
i thought it was great when hammond took charge of the prometheus, it was asbout time he got some action


i would give it a definate 10/10 i loved evreyminute, although they should have made more of the end scenes

I think they coulda added one small part to make it more intresting .. a fleet of asquard ships since they are suppose to be monitoring any space travel in our galaxy.. The entire time i was thinking where are some of our allies ? it would be sweet if the asquard had taken on anubis and they were getting there ass's kicked and we had saved the day for us and them with the weapon.
I think long term its gonna be goofy having hammond as capt if that happens. Since it has been suggested Jack takes control of the sgc.

This episode was great!!
I really like the new president, Kinsey finally got trouble.
It was also a very sad episode, exspecially the end... oh, please! Jack is not gonna die or anything, i mean, no one bought it!!
Still, have to wait till summer for season 8.

When is the first ep. of S8 airing anyway?

Great episode! Brilliant special effects, shame the battle was so short.

NOT the lost city! Kinda defies the title, dosent it? I dont think weve seen the last of Anubis though. mind you, he did look a little pissed off...

I think the previous poster was referring to the Navy ships blown up by Anubis's laser beam from space. We didn't see it - we just heard the Commander of one of the ships reporting on the phone to Hayes and telling us it was happening. While I didn't really care either way about seeing them or not, I did think the actor doing the phone reporting was awful! <G> He managed to leech any degree of tension out of the moment entirely and just didn't sound convincingly in any fear or trepidation.

Was just watching the episode again and re how did they shoot the supersoldiers. First time around I did wonder too why none of them seemed to have the supergun shown in Death Knell. But both Teal'c and Sam are distinctly shown clicking something on their 'regular' guns before firing at the supersoldiers, so I presume that in the interim between DK and LC they've developed the supergun components into their regular firearms. Handy!

And I'm actually of the opposite opinion to previous posters and glad we didn't see the Asgard or other allies swoop to the rescue at the last minute. That's just too easy a fix to get our guys out of trouble and it would have seriously diminished the tension of the episode for me.

Albion

This post has been edited by Albion: Mar 10th 2004, 11:12 AM

Never has an episode been on the receiving end of so much hype ; as seen by the fact that they record for most people on at once has been broken (606...wow!); but my question is "did it justify the hype?" In my opinion , and I know a lot of people will disagree with me, the answer is no. The trailer made me think of a very exciting ep with a HUGE space battle, not a sort of boring ep with a "little" fight above Antarctica.

The main gripe with this ep is that it seemed rushed. If it had been 20 minutes longer, it would have been nigh on perfect. The battle needed to be longer and the eventual destruction of Anubis seemed too easy. What was shown was very well done - the special effects were again magnificent and the acting was top notch.

Was it just me ordid the Prometheus seem too good? It seems that it was able to survive about 300 shots from Anubis's ship. That doesn't seem correct. Especially when it takes 50 more hits after "the next hit's gonna take us out". Anubis's ship, a replica of the ship which was able to destroy the pyramid couldn't destroy that tiny thing. Not right! Why didn't Anubis just use that mega weapon to destroy Antarctica??

What about that Ancient technology though? That has to be the most unusual and amazing "weapon" ever. Was it alive? It seemed to be "intelligent." Again though, it was just too easy. I can't see how there is a future in Stargate now. With that tech anyone that stands against us is in some serious crap.

Don't even get me started on the ending. I know it's meant to lead into Atlantis but come on...that's just plain terrible! It looked like it was an easy way to save time so they took advantage of it. What's actually happened to Jack anyway. Is he is stasis??

The best thing about he ep. was that battle above Antarctica...short as it was. The sight of the F-302's and the Alkesh and Death Gliders charging at one another was amazing but still not as good as I expected.

Overall it was a good episode but not what I expected and definitely not what the hype billed it to be. 8/10. It gains marks because we are finally rid of Anubis.
All thats left to say is bring on Season 8 and Atlantis. I don't know which one i'm more excited about.

PS: Im so late posting because I've been out all day.

This post has been edited by jaffagod: Mar 10th 2004, 11:32 AM

That ship's weapon was powered by those amulet things (I think they were called eyes?) which were obviously destroyed along with the original ship thus no more super weapon.

Oh yeah. Thanks, I had forgotten about that.

Then that would be my fault.

But I also was thinking that the stuff looked like a lot from Independence Day. The two guys in the plane are looking for the ship and the plane is blown up and the transmission cuts. That was something I winced at when I saw it.

Also the planes clashing into each other remined me of the battle in LOTR when the orcs on the beasts attack the Rohan when they are going to Helm Deep. Another thing was that the staff blasts from the gliders were like on automatic and that looked like the Independece Day scene again when our jets were taking them out with machine guns.

These little stupid analogies are quite cheesy and I was not really happy with them cause it felt like the CG's were copied and all even though I enjoyed them. Hope no one misunderstands that I hated the CG's or anything. I just felt that it was a mixture of all the things I mentioned above.


But thats just my opinion ..

As far as we know, we just exhausted the power source we brought from the other planet, or maybe the weapon can only be used by Jack, which means we can't use it again. It was still lucky (the timing this time), just like every other episode in which the earth is almost destroyed, although the victory was so spectacular, that we should be getting every Goa'uld around to unite against us. My only qualm about the weapon is that it didn?t come from some really cool launcher.

Who said we were supposed to find Atlantis? We know it exist now, but the first ep of Atlantis is probably going to be the one that describes the important stuff. I will be glad for every part of Atlantis that is different from SG1, and I like that it wasn?t given much of an intro.
I think Jack was preserving himself until the Asgard could be contacted, but I wouldn't call it stasis, as that describes a slowing of the body?s function and this appeared to be a device closer to cryogenically freezing without the cold. If that makes sense. Any other thoughts on that?

Great episode. Loved the speech from president Hayes to Anubis. He is alot like Jack.
Battle was great but it was a bit short.
Does that mean the Anubis is dead. Who is going to be the bad guy in season 8.
PS those "super-soldiers" are a bit useless now. I liked the way that no one could kill them.

I just watched 721 and 722 and i must say i was thrilled. Altough 721 was quite boring (not much interesting hapened) 722 was not.
The Antarctica Ice Battle was awesome, the entire clash between the the Tau'ri fighters and Anubis' force was brilliant. Altough i really did expect Anubis to simply launch everything he got against Earth at the same time. With that i mean making use of all those motherships against the biggest cities on our planet to destroy as many of us.
Still, the ending was quite sad and i cant wait until season 8 starts. I'm not sure if Anubis died but i do not think so. This end was to quickly and he would probably have beamed himself out or something... we havent seen the last of him yet.
The shippy-ness was to mushy and i still got my doubts on Wier since we will be seeing less of Hammond obviously. The supersoldiers were awesome of course but just what were those orange squid thingies under the ice that destroyed Anubis' forces?
Surely those werent the Ancients but what where they...?
Would make a good poll in spoilers and speculation me thinks

Squids:





This post has been edited by Kaileron: Mar 10th 2004, 1:12 PM

WOW, incredible ep. all that smashed into one hour's time. 721 was a perfect setup for part 722.

I agree that it was good this time that the Asgard or some powerful force didn't show up to help. It may seem like we were 'lucky' again. However, it further proves how far behind we are technologically and how vulnerable we are.

There wasn't much shippiness in this ep (not as much as i anticipated it to be). it was just that scene in the scout's engineering room when jack said "i know". I felt there was more shippiness when Jack touched Teal'c HAHAHAHAHAH j/k

anyways, great ep. how long is the wait for s8?

Those sentinels were a weapon by the ancients, it wasnt really live creatures it was more like very advanced technology that knows what to target and homes in on the enemy and destroys specific targets and its very advanced.
And i say congratulations to the makers of sg1 for making a weapon that is truely alien and an original idea, usually the weapons used on sg1 or other shows that are supposed to be alien are basically just different looking technology that fires different coloured lasers but in the end it is always a big gun that fires out a laser and sg1 managed to come up with something original that seems, and for the first time feels, alien. The makers did a very good job.

This post has been edited by invisible painting: Mar 10th 2004, 1:17 PM

Having read most of the posts ahead of mine, I'll try to detail as many points as possible.

1. It felt rushed at the end:
-I agree, but that is probably because the graphics of the x302's and deathgliders were flying by really fast, and this probably tricked the mind of the viewer into thinking things were going by really fast. The conclusion of the battle added to this. We were expecting a long drawn-out battle when they were in-fact, looking for a massive weapon to end it as fast as possible weren't they?

2. It didn't meet all the the hype:
-I don't recall seeing all that much hype, at least yet since this episode won't appear on the Sci-fi channel here for another week and a half. Here in the states things always get hyped big-time due to the overcommericalization of things.

3. The vice-president:
-I would like to have seen his reaction to the victory. To see whether he was upset or tried to chalk it up to SG-1's reckless behavior.

4. The Prometheus's weapons systems
- episode 6x17 had Thor stating they were going to install Asgard designed shields and weapons systems. Considering the size of Prometheus I would have expected it's size to limit the number and effectiveness of those weapons systems, but I still thought they should have been enough to take out the gould ships there in the anarctic? The 302's should have something other than mere rockets right?

5. Most power stations in the united states are close to cities and towns. No way are they being destroyed in a very loud and explosive manner from bursts of repetitive energy projectiles from the sky without drawing the attention of a wide array of people. The chances of this being chalked up to mere meteor showers wouldn't fly since the projectiles were mainly in single file, not dispersed like random shots.

6. Under no circumstances would the President remain in the white house, even if he was brave. He would at least been taken down into one of the many maze-like underground structures severla miles below ground to withstand any of the attacks. Considering how Anubis knows where they were, they should realize that if Anubis shot at ships at sea from above, they could easily just fire a single shot at the white house. They'd never know what hit them. The secret service would have removed him by force if they have to.

7. Jack made them go all that way out there to find a replacement power supply for the earth outpost? How did he know the one there at the outpost would be unused, how did he know the one there on earth was used up?

8. How is this going to affect the ongoing plotline that was put forth by 'Inauguration' and part-1? Is the vice-president fired? Clearly after what had happened he would no longer be vice president? In this case what would those private investors/donors going to do now that they know they're inside man is out? Worse, a vice-president doesn't resign or get fired without major, MAJOR public news and coverage? Kinsey will be humiliated and unable to run for public office again, except for perhaps the WH itself.

9. Anubis was in order for the better part of a day or more. At least that much by my counting. He did afterall wait for our response, plus start attacking naval vessels, so where were the Asgard? Did they remove their detection systems from Earth's proximity? They were there as of 6x11, which was how they knew how to track Prometheus?

10. The Ancient weapon system did indeed look a bit like the Matrix sentinels. Of course they could also be thought of as looking like those little orange creatures that followed Pac-Man around in the old Pac Man video game???

11. What happened to the transport system that Osirus used? Anubis should have been able to beam up anyone he chose right? He should have been able to transport a heck of a lot more super soldiers than those he did send down. Was it six??
He could also have beamed up SG-1 and put an end to the risks they might find and use something?

12. The episode name: Why call it the lost city if they don't actually find the lost city or discover it's whereabouts?

13. I thought Ronan's behavior was also suspicious from the start, and I got the impression that both Bratc and T' thought so too. They did look at each other with that strange impression on their face, Hmmmmmm?
I was half expecting Bratac to catch Ronan the moment he tried to pull something. Considering how cut throat the life of a Jafa in the service of a gould is, I'd of thought these people would be masters of recognizing deception and back-stab tactics?


Overall it was a great episode. I am to much of a fan of the series to let a few discrepencies get in my way of enjoying the episode.
I agree that the way the episode set itself up, and the season's ongoing conclusion lend itself to good drama.

I'd give it 9 out of 10 stars.
It's not my favorite episode, but it was good enough to come close.

My favorite is and always will be the season 3 finale, 3x22, the first appearance of the replicators and the subsequent followup in season 4, 4x01.

MYOB'
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