hey ramuund, you could try usefulcontent.org, they really work well for me since i do live in the u.s., but do not have cable when i am not in college.
very upsetting. but anyway, that should work for you...

This post has been edited by lizieaxes: Jul 6th 2003, 3:33 PM

Im back for my usual summary and thoughts on the episodes so be prepared for plenty of spoilers! Its also very long cause I have a lot to say

Anyway, I didnt think I would like this episode since I thought it was going to be based around Tealc and Jaffa which arent my favourite storylines. Even though it IS based around the Jaffa and Teal'c, it also touched upon many things - consequences and continuality from previous episodes and in some sense closure. All in all an excellent episodes mainly because it was a continuation from previous episodes.

We learned about the consequences of going against Anubis (Previous 3 episodes this season). Baal is now in control of the whole alliance of System Lords, which ironically, is what they tried to prevent in the previous seasons. I would assume that now Lord Yu is disabled due to his mental disability.

They've also incorporated Daniel's ascension into the storyline. Continued from the previous seasons (10 Cure and 19 The Changlings) and Daniel's involvement in it all. First, I want to mention Daniels descension. Again, they asked why Daniel descended. We have always assummed that Oma forced him to descend due to his previous actions at the end of last season. But Daniel asked himself whether he chose it himself and we have getting more prove of that. He ascended because he thought he 'could do more this way' (and to a lesser extent to fit in), and ultimately found out he could do nothing. The end of the episode shows that he realise being with Sg1 is where he wanted and should be.

Daniel's have regained most of his memory surprisingly. And with this episode he started remember things during his ascension which means that his memory loss is a side-effect of some sort more than something that was forbidden. This is interesting cause as more his remembers, whatever he learnt during ascension would be very helpful as proven in this episode itself.

We always knew that the drug Tritonin (spelling?) was too perfect. Its effects are passive than active (unlike a simbiote). You have longer life span and protection from many dieases, but it does not heal - so no regeneration at all. Also as Tealc have mentioned, Tritonin only gives a lesser extent heighten strength and senses.

The storyline itself was good although the way Tealc regained his confidence is very cliche. Although I doubt there is a better way of doing it.

Some Notes:
- Jack and Daniel Pep talk (not peppy enough?)
- Alliance of the System Lords
- Daniel starting to remember his ascended life
- Daniel and Teal'c bonding moments (so Daniel is replacing Jonas)
- Tritonin is passive

well you warned didn't you that it would be long! If i ever have to to do an anaylisis(spelling) i'll contact you first for a prep talk!!!!!! thanks LIZIE for the fulcontent website ill try it out now

no problem, glad i could help a fellow cable starved/SG-1 starved person...i really thought this ep was a good one. i am glad they are showing teal'c in a more human light, it makes the character easier to identify with. and it also shows off c.j.'s acting skills!!

QUOTE (Ogru @ Jul 11 2003, 05:37 PM)

QUOTE (G Odin @ Jun 29 2003, 01:46 AM) Not to nitpick, but how did Jack know that it was gonna be dark in an hour?  Solar and Lunar cycles should be a mystery on new planets. Not to nitpick your not nitpicking....but why should cycles be a mystery? All you have to do is draw a circle on the ground and put a stick in the middle to get a sun dial. Then calculate the time the sun moves from one position to another (like from 1'oclock to 2'oclock)...then....look at the position of the sun in the sky. if it is nearing the horizon on a decent.....and it takes (approximately x-amount of minutes to move)...you can very safely calculate (in human terms of an hour) how long it will take to set. Besides....all he had to do was read the script.

Well, nitpicking your nitpicking of nitpicking... Jack 'knew' this right away without doing all the sundial stuff So, it should have been a mystery to him really.

Besides, maybe he didn't know that days are different lengths on different planets and it was just a lucky guess?

This post has been edited by Aesir: Jul 11th 2003, 11:50 AM

it was a good epsoide...... I wonder if the sgc is going to salave any of the parts from the hatack that crashed....

I MISSED THAT EPISODE!!!!

About the time thing, i reckon jack just saw that the sun was low and took an educated guess.

I wonder how many rounds that Jaffa that made it into the SGC took, probably quite a few.

[QUOTE]Besides, maybe he didn't know that days are different lengths on different planets and it was just a lucky guess?
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Even the planets in our solor system have different day lengths and Jack is an amateur astrologer, of course he knew that already.

Every field soldier worth his salt knows how to guessimate time passage by sun position, it would be no stretch to use both to guess time remaining until sundown.

I think it was a pretty lucky guess. He is actuall more than a beginning astronomer. We have seen that he seems to know quite a bit about astrology, sometimes surprising even Carter.

There was no luck involved. Just good training.

What does training have to do with it? How do you train someone to know when the sun is going to set on an alien planet? Unless you sit down and observe some astronomical movement and do calculations, there's no way to know. He seemed to just pull it out of his butt.

Read my previous posts, they explain how.

there is gonna be a season eight

Yup, Nik and I had a laugh at that last night!
I enjoyed this episode, I think that as the series is progressing it's getting better.
Nice touch to have Daniel's memories returning from when he was ascended and bit at the end when he was talking to Teal'c and saying how he felt he belonged.

Although i thought this episode was ok, i dont think it is as good as some people have said it is. I think i just missed RDA, i have this habbit of blinking and i think i must have missed him.

I liked the bonding between Daniel and Teal'c, and that we got to see the more "human" side to Teal'c in this ep.
I liked that we got to see more of the father son relationship between Teal'c and Rya'c. We saw just how much Rya'c looks up to his dad, like he sees him as his hero and indestructable.
I also liked the bit where Teal'c asks Jack to look after Rya'c if anything was to happen to him on the mission, although i'm wondering why he wouldnt have wanted B still making sure Rya'c is ok, B is his mentor after all. I guess he thought that he was dead or dying from lack of tretonin.
It was nice to see that Daniel is still struggling with some aspects of his memory, because his memory of before he assended just seems to have come back to him a bit to quickly for my liking.

Well the memory thing can be explained, don't forget that these sort of shows span weeks or a month since they're last encounter in the episode with Jack being abducted and cloned, so that would have trigure some more memories to come flooding back to him as he re reads mission reports and continues his present missions.

I was thinking that about the memory thing, but then again we saw Teal'c get injured and then suddenly well again. There had to be a good couple of months in there that we didn't get to see.

It was and ok episode. The blonde jaffa bloke was a bit wiggy if you ask me. Didn't miss Jack at all, thought he was in it a fair amount, however there wasn't many of his pithy little quips which made it feel like he wasn't around so much. Actually one of my complaints about O'Neill is that they sometimes get so caught up with writing him something dry and sarcastic to say that they forget that he's got this deadly serious side too. They do that with the dumbness of him too. he's not dumb, he's really smart but he just likes to pretend he is to shut Carter up from time to time!

I liked the Teal'c and Daniel bonding too. I think it's been a long time coming. I always felt that neither Sam or Daniel have ever formed any sort of relationship with Teal'c. It's always been Daniel and Jack, Sam and Jack, Teal'c and Jack, Sam and Daniel. This is probably one of the more beneficial side effects of RDA's reduced time.

I also liked the fact that we got some sort of closure on the whole ascension/descension thing with Daniel.

Lastly, and yeah this is a really shallow thing to notice but, I swear Amanda Tapping had a cold when they filmed this episode. She sounds kind of stuffed up and her nose is all red bless her!

I thought jack was cold and serious in that episowhen he was waiting for the moment to shoot, if i was him i would have taken out that blondey straight away as soon as the attack started, but it had to be handled by teal'c obviously.

Indeed. It did seem somewhat cold hearted, but that's how he is trained. He did what was best tactically and was just doing his duty - he just had to put his personal feelings aside. I guess after all those years in black ops he's probably somewhat used to it by now.

I thought that ep was my least fav so far in new season as i thought fire fight was a let down. But still enjoyable to see some action.

I read spoilers of this episode in a magazine before season 7 started, and to tell you the truth, it sounded like it was going to be a really crap one but it suprised me when I watched it. It deifinately wasn't the best episode so far this season, but I actually quite liked it. The whole Daniel/Teal'c thing at the beginning was the best part for me. Any episode with bonding, emotions, etc I normally like. Action packed ones are good too but there wasn't really much of that either, just Jack lying around while Teal'c got whipped!

Yes i realise that, but episode wise i'm just saying that its only 4 episodes into the series and Daniel already seems like the same old Daniel, with only a few minor differences.

I just realised who that blonde jaffa guy reminded me of (its been bugging me for days), anyone outside the UK wont know who i'm talking about but he reminded of that Tory MP, Boris Johnson!