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post Jan 18th 2007, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(thehighcommander @ Jan 18th 2007, 12:13 AM) *

so will he be back? he was talking to rodney at the end like daniel talked to jack when he ascended, which i think means that he ascended. we know that the ancients can do that, oma did it on abydos maybe the ancients ascended him had hes gonna be like season 6 daniel on sg1

They left it open-ish. I don't think he ascended. Rodney hesitated when he said 'body' because Carson was his best friend, and it hurt him to say it. The end sequence was a good-bye, probably nothing more.
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post Jan 18th 2007, 12:54 AM
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this is random but while watching Sunday i remember hear that John was married, while he was talking to Ronan, he said done that but he wasnt good at it, so before the Atlantis Exp. he was married but divorced
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post Jan 18th 2007, 1:24 AM
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so no one has an answer to my question?? mad.gif sad.gif / Im not asking how to get the ep Im just asking WHERE did you watch it..
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post Jan 18th 2007, 1:52 AM
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QUOTE(Otaku_Smeghead @ Jan 17th 2007, 11:24 PM) *

so no one has an answer to my question?? mad.gif sad.gif / Im not asking how to get the ep Im just asking WHERE did you watch it..


"Sunday" aired on Movie Central (Western Canada) on Monday January 15th. They started airing the second half of season 3 before Christmas then took a few weeks off and are now finishing the season with new episodes every Monday. At this rate we're set to see the Atlantis Season 3 finale on Monday February 5th.

TMN (Eastern Canada) according to their website will air the 12th episode of season 3 "Echoes" on Saturday January 20th. And then be airing the new episodes into February and March.

Yay for Canada being first. The second half of season 3 has had some really good episodes.
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post Jan 18th 2007, 2:04 AM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Jan 18th 2007, 12:50 AM) *

They left it open-ish. I don't think he ascended. Rodney hesitated when he said 'body' because Carson was his best friend, and it hurt him to say it. The end sequence was a good-bye, probably nothing more.



how can you have a goodbye with a dead person unless he is ascended? (keeping in mind the show doesnt deal with angels/religious explanations)
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post Jan 18th 2007, 2:19 AM
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QUOTE(Revan @ Jan 17th 2007, 10:22 PM) *

I think the same level of genetic diversity would exist... giving different abilities to different people... kinda like skin tone and eye color... ya know?

I didn't think of that. If the characteristics are genetic, then they would be passed down like you said. That makes good sense.

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how can you have a goodbye with a dead person unless he is ascended? (keeping in mind the show doesnt deal with angels/religious explanations)

It's for the sense of closure at the end of the show. Lots of shows do similar things when they kill off a character. In this case, Rod felt like he was responsible for Carson's death. At the end, he was resolving these emotions in his own mind. At the same time the writers were giving Carson his last bit of screen time, and allowing him to say goodbye to the fans.

EDIT: That was my 1000th post? I shoulda said something more profound. Just remember my motto: It's always (and I mean ALWAYS) ok to eat chillicheese fries no matter the hour.

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post Jan 18th 2007, 2:38 AM
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QUOTE(thehighcommander @ Jan 18th 2007, 7:13 AM) *

so will he be back? he was talking to rodney at the end like daniel talked to jack when he ascended, which i think means that he ascended. we know that the ancients can do that, oma did it on abydos maybe the ancients ascended him had hes gonna be like season 6 daniel on sg1


QUOTE(thehighcommander @ Jan 18th 2007, 9:04 AM) *

how can you have a goodbye with a dead person unless he is ascended? (keeping in mind the show doesnt deal with angels/religious explanations)


We saw with our own eyes that they sent the body back to Earth... Now, how could he have ascended when that was done? No, the end sequence is just what the fans wanted, like JTMAG1 said right after you, and what I said a few posts back, a closure, a chance for Carson to say good bye to one of his great friends, to the show, and to the fans. McKay saw that all in his mind... It was rather well done. 1.gif

And to end this with a question, if you think Carson ascended, let me ask you who would have helped him do that? whistling.gif 1.gif

QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Jan 18th 2007, 9:19 AM) *

EDIT: That was my 1000th post? I shoulda said something more profound. Just remember my motto: It's always (and I mean ALWAYS) ok to eat chillicheese fries no matter the hour.


Yay for the millenarian post. w00t.gif
Ummm, unfortunately, I have no idea what chillicheese fries are, so I guess I can't understand your motto. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 18th 2007, 4:35 AM
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crying.gif No way, not him. why? He was one of my favorite charactor there.
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It's too bad that Carson had to die crying.gif He was a great character. I really liked how he wouldn't give up on that guy even if it ment blowing up with him. Poor Rodney now has to live with the guilt that things might have been different if only he went fishing with him.
The good-bye in the end was nice.
Lorne PAINTING !?!?! 1.gif That was soooooo funny
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I will not rest until I know why they killed him off... The best way to figure this out would be to find out what is going on with Paul. If you know what the actor is doing, you can figure out what the character is doing...

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post Jan 18th 2007, 10:25 AM
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so are you saying that rodney who got the gene manipulation in tao suddenly manage to be able to heal although he doesn;t have the ancient gene like oneal or shepard.

that doesn;t make sense at all... although its possible that some of the ancients are not able to heal, i would guess that a vast majority could, somewhat like a ability that can be learned.. after all. its not genes that give them the ability but the increase usage of ones brain higher functions

also there may not be a body, as it could be annihilated by the blast, the casket is somewhat symbolic i think. it leaves teh door open for an ascended carson..

imagine an ascended carson coming down to atlantis and is fishing at the docks
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post Jan 18th 2007, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Jan 18th 2007, 2:19 AM) *

That was my 1000th post? I shoulda said something more profound. Just remember my motto: It's always (and I mean ALWAYS) ok to eat chillicheese fries no matter the hour.


Congrats! May you live to make 10,000...
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post Jan 18th 2007, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(fan_83 @ Jan 18th 2007, 10:25 AM) *

so are you saying that rodney who got the gene manipulation in tao suddenly manage to be able to heal although he doesn;t have the ancient gene like oneal or shepard.

that doesn;t make sense at all... although its possible that some of the ancients are not able to heal, i would guess that a vast majority could, somewhat like a ability that can be learned.. after all. its not genes that give them the ability but the increase usage of ones brain higher functions

also there may not be a body, as it could be annihilated by the blast, the casket is somewhat symbolic i think. it leaves teh door open for an ascended carson..

imagine an ascended carson coming down to atlantis and is fishing at the docks

The Ancient gene is just a specific marker that they picked out of their DNA sequence. It's never been said that it is what gives the ancients their powers. And, Rodney took the gene therapy...
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post Jan 18th 2007, 2:47 PM
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I think he ascended because he is a pure person and I think they had that scene with Rodney to leave the option open.
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QUOTE(poundpuppy29 @ Jan 18th 2007, 2:47 PM) *

I think he ascended because he is a pure person and I think they had that scene with Rodney to leave the option open.

Maybe, but he would not have been able to ascend without the help of other ascended beings... they had no reason to ascend him... and it would be kinda dumb if they had, because it already happened to Daniel.
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crying.gif Damn you Gero, You better hope I never see you in person. spam_laser.gif
Such a sweet ending though, had me at a tear. Just shows you, love your friends like no other can, you never know when they can just go.
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QUOTE(JinxY @ Jan 18th 2007, 6:05 AM) *
It's too bad that Carson had to die crying.gif He was a great character. I really liked how he wouldn't give up on that guy even if it ment blowing up with him. Poor Rodney now has to live with the guilt that things might have been different if only he went fishing with him.


That's the thing that bugs me, he didn't have to die, it was almost written just to make him die. I thought the episode was OK, but am kinda cheesed off about him dying like that. They might as well of had him stub his toe, get's a subdermal cyst and die from blood poisoning.
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QUOTE(More Cowbell! @ Jan 18th 2007, 7:59 PM) *

That's the thing that bugs me, he didn't have to die, it was almost written just to make him die. I thought the episode was OK, but am kinda cheesed off about him dying like that. They might as well of had him stub his toe, get's a subdermal cyst and die from blood poisoning.

That was the point. They were writing him out of the show. The episode was written specifically so that he could be killed.
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post Jan 18th 2007, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Jan 18th 2007, 8:05 PM) *

That was the point. They were writing him out of the show. The episode was written specifically so that he could be killed.

So he could die heroically, and we could have some character development for all up to the end.
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QUOTE(Revan @ Jan 18th 2007, 10:01 PM) *

So he could die heroically, and we could have some character development for all up to the end.


It really was a worthwhile episode in the end. A lot of stuff was accomplished that TPTB, as well as many fans, have been waiting for...
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I fell asleep during the episode.
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QUOTE(Arcady @ Jan 18th 2007, 10:18 PM) *

I fell asleep during the episode.

It happens.

I have found that sometimes I need to fast forward through parts of Stargate episodes or I will fall asleep.

I don't think I plan on rewatching this one. Carson died, end of story.
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I think it was due to the fact that the episode was written worse than a fan fic. And I knew he was dying ahead of time. And how many times can we have an episode with "8 hours earlier" in it?
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QUOTE(Arcady @ Jan 18th 2007, 11:02 PM) *

I think it was due to the fact that the episode was written worse than a fan fic. And I knew he was dying ahead of time. And how many times can we have an episode with "8 hours earlier" in it?

yeah, I definitly hope they get a grip on that "in media rae" device really fast.
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