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| ancient01 |
Aug 20th 2006, 8:04 PM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Phoenixville, PA Member No.: 6,239 Gender: Male |
I have to admit, this one bored me. I agree with the general concensus that TH did a fantastic job, but it could have been any tv drama. The core story really didn't have anything to do with Atlantis. I am looking forward to next week's episode, though...
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| Auntie Em! |
Aug 20th 2006, 8:12 PM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
Pitry, I got the impression in that group therapy session that Weir actually perked up and got interested when that lady spoke about "the others" because she thought it might mean there really was something weird going on - and that it really wasn't about her being three fries short of a happy meal. That was my take on that scene as well. She seemed to be withdrawn and when that lady started to speak she definately perked right up and saw a sliver of hope. |
| Hopeless SG Addict |
Aug 21st 2006, 1:17 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: March 6th 2006 Member No.: 11,337 Gender: Female |
That was my take on that scene as well. She seemed to be withdrawn and when that lady started to speak she definately perked right up and saw a sliver of hope. I also felt Weir perked up when she thought the other woman's issues might be significant. Then Weir withdrew once she realized sharing her memories of the wraith would only serve to mess this other woman up even more. I liked this episode. I loved how Rodney tried to take credit for Carson's idea. I did kind of expect them to go up and retrieve Niam, but I don't know what that would have accomplished. All-in-all a good ep. Not as good as the previous two, but still good. |
| IndyJan |
Aug 21st 2006, 1:43 AM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
How is it that in almost every episode Sheppard is always the one who has a major revelation and figures out the problem of every Ep? Are you kidding? I loved that for once McKay wasn't being his sorry arrogant jerk to always save the day! Shep is intelligent. He was the one to figure out what was wrong with Weir. I liked that. I do vaguely remember that, what ep was it in? Also, other than Spin City, where have I seen the guy playing the doctor? OH, Capt. Harriman from the Enterprise B.... Alan Ruck also played in the movie Speed! A very good movie. I will say that this episode gave TH a chance to really shine acting wise. She was brilliant. I liked that they didn't just let the whole Niam thing go. He actually did something to Weir before they set him out in space. I also liked how they tied into Simon. Weir must still feel something for him, or I doubt that would have happened. Jack, Jack, I saw my Jack again! I so miss that man, and he was great. It reminded me of the Foothold episode on SG1. RDA played jack so well, he was evil but you wanted to believe him and trust him. The same for Weir. It had it's moments, not the best and not my fav, but it had its moments. |
| mantez |
Aug 22nd 2006, 1:02 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: August 21st 2006 Member No.: 12,335 Gender: Male |
This ep wasnt as bad as i thought it would be i turned out ok but its been done too many times before, buffy done it, star trek (DS9) done it and even SG1 done it personally I would be glad if no series ever done it again.
overall rating of this episode it could have been worse |
| Mike |
Aug 22nd 2006, 6:37 AM
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I Piss Excellence Group: Moderators Posts: 3,016 Joined: March 4th 2003 From: New York, NY / Houston, TX Member No.: 957 Gender: Male |
I fell asleep during this episode and I never do that when it comes to SG-1 and Atlantis.
I would say I have mixed feelings about the episode. Nice in a sense that we got to see more of Tori's acting talent but in a way it was a momentum killer for me. Kinda hard to have the best of both worlds when you have this sort of episode. |
| Sibylle |
Aug 23rd 2006, 3:46 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: December 13th 2005 Member No.: 10,668 Gender: Male |
I liked the episode but it could be 10times better if the plot was different.
Imagine Weir captured by Wraight of Replicators, they don't know that much about Atlantis but they want to learn for destroying it, or taking over it (taking over is better). By letting Weir tell things in her dreams, they get information.... the first 20min or so I thought that was the case, and I liked it. The moment Weir would figure it out, it would cause a battle inside her head, her thoughts playing tricks on her, little mistakes by de Wraight/Replicators that she (and the viewer) would've to be alert for..... |
| KillerMarv |
Aug 23rd 2006, 4:06 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
I liked the episode but it could be 10times better if the plot was different. Imagine Weir captured by Wraight of Replicators, they don't know that much about Atlantis but they want to learn for destroying it, or taking over it (taking over is better). By letting Weir tell things in her dreams, they get information.... That would have been even more done to death than part of the plot of this episode. We've seen this way too many times with the original Replicators. This was a bit different because they wanted to take over her body and replicate. |
| Sibylle |
Aug 23rd 2006, 9:29 AM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: December 13th 2005 Member No.: 10,668 Gender: Male |
That would have been even more done to death than part of the plot of this episode. We've seen this way too many times with the original Replicators. This was a bit different because they wanted to take over her body and replicate. but it was weak, and without purpose.... The moment they showed Weir in Atlantis being attacked by the nanites it stopped being exciting, the only danger was they would take her life....and everyone knows that's not gonna happen (or she would have to ascend, but that's too cheap). Why not make the reps in control of her body and let her do stuff in Atlantis, or just forget about the whole plot :S This post has been edited by Sibylle: Aug 23rd 2006, 9:30 AM |
| startreksuite |
Aug 25th 2006, 8:55 AM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: March 26th 2005 From: Boston, MA , USA Member No.: 8,622 Gender: Male |
Good episode! I was thinking, oh no! They've stolen the Deep Space Nine episode where Sisko is told that the Space station is a dream and he's a writer! That episode stunk! The Stargate Powers That Be made this episode good! It was strange to see O'Neill as a serious character, but that is what Dr.Weir knows him as, not as cool goofy guy he really is.
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| QtombeD |
Aug 25th 2006, 2:19 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: August 25th 2006 Member No.: 12,379 Gender: Male |
I didn't like this episode to much (never like so called real world stories in a sf series) the plot wasn't to good either... O'neill being serieus was the only big shocker
But there is almost an Identical episode in SG1. Two actually (that I know of) there is one of Tealc as when he swaps his lovely snake with his old teacher, forgot who played the simulaer role in the 2nd simular episode. In my opninion SGA borrows a bit to much from Star Trek or SG1 but that is usually the case with those series... TNG made almost identical episodes from the original series and all later series did this as well SGA is no exception. I wonder where they will go with the two enemies storyline.... Hope SGA will run for 10 seasons as well |
| IndyJan |
Aug 25th 2006, 7:10 PM
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Lieutenant General Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,356 Joined: July 17th 2004 Member No.: 5,622 Gender: Female |
I doubt very much that Atlantis will have the staying power of SG1. I'm having a hard time watching it now, and I only do because it follows SG1. Once SG1 is gone, I doubt if I will care whether I watch Atlantis or not. If I'm home to watch I will. If I leave, I won't worry about taping it.
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| Jade |
Aug 29th 2006, 5:28 AM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: January 30th 2006 Member No.: 11,026 Gender: Female |
overall ok, like the fact that it is Weir centre episode. Kind of guessed all the hallucination would have something to do with the replicator.
will need to watch it again, a bit confused on how they got rid of the Nanite completely, all they required is one to survive, scary! |
| Pitry |
Aug 29th 2006, 7:35 AM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
Pitry, I got the impression in that group therapy session that Weir actually perked up and got interested when that lady spoke about "the others" because she thought it might mean there really was something weird going on - and that it really wasn't about her being three fries short of a happy meal. Interesting. I nmight have to re-watch it to see if I'm correct, but the way I rememebvr it, she gave that little "oh" smile -and just then the psychologist looked at her, as if to reprove her. Well, I guess we'll never know. ;) |
| J&S4Ever |
Sep 1st 2006, 10:31 PM
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Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: February 21st 2005 From: Pharr, Texas Member No.: 8,176 Gender: Female |
Good episode from what I remember. I didn't get to record it so I didn't do my usual reviewing of the tape.
TH has gotten a couple of good episodes to show her acting skills recently. I do hope that they start focusing more on writing for this show now that SG1 will no longer precede it. I think I can download the ep to my IPOD so I'll watch it again. There's something about the replicators that is bugging me, but I just can't put my finger on it. |
| cosmos |
Sep 12th 2006, 9:42 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Donating Members Posts: 471 Joined: May 18th 2004 From: UK Member No.: 5,080 Gender: Male |
When it started and so what the story was like, ie Locked in a cage told she is crazy when we know that she isn't; I thought this is going to be a boring episode. I figured the shadow has got to be Sheppard but fortunately predictability didn't spoil it for me.
Surprisingly, I enjoyed it very much and I think it was made really well. I have to give it a 5/5 because of that. |
| Dafmeister |
Nov 22nd 2006, 5:20 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
I didn't think much of the episode at first because the idea behind the episode has been used a few times in Stargate but it got better as it went on. I was kind of hoping that the episode would flesh Weir's character out a bit more but it didn't really do all that much for her. Surely there should have been some lasting damage to her body, especially her brain considering the nanites had used her body to replicate themselves?
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| Pitry |
Nov 22nd 2006, 5:27 PM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
I didn't think much of the episode at first because the idea behind the episode has been used a few times in Stargate but it got better as it went on. I was kind of hoping that the episode would flesh Weir's character out a bit more but it didn't really do all that much for her. Surely there should have been some lasting damage to her body, especially her brain considering the nanites had used her body to replicate themselves? Interesting, I actually felt it did flesh out Weir, a lot. When she's convinced she's wrong, when she's leading her own, old life... it perhaps didn't flesh her out in a wya you'd expect a scifi heroine to be - but these are exactly the scenes I felt showed how mch of a human being she really is. |
| JC1 |
Nov 22nd 2006, 5:40 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 950 Joined: January 13th 2003 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 342 Gender: Male |
I thought it was a fairly average episode. I have nothing against Weir, but seeing her life before Atlantis just makes me wonder why she was chosen to lead a scientific/military expedition to another galaxy.
Also, while it was good to see O'Neil again, I would have prefered if the character was included in a real story, instead of just being part Weirs delusion. This post has been edited by JC1: Nov 22nd 2006, 5:42 PM |
| cdpage |
Apr 16th 2007, 10:35 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: December 2nd 2003 Member No.: 2,843 Gender: Male |
I have to agree with JC1 on two counts,
i would have rathered seen Jack in a real story line...but it was nice to see him. as for the ep. Meh, good idea of a follow up, not so keen on the exicution tho |
| Elisabeth and Sam rock!! |
May 27th 2007, 4:44 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: May 27th 2007 From: south wales, uk Member No.: 13,931 Gender: Female |
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| sacfiona |
Jul 3rd 2007, 1:02 PM
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Civilian Group: New Members Posts: 1 Joined: July 3rd 2007 Member No.: 14,305 Gender: Female |
i thought this episode rocked.
a bit weird but a good episode |
| bostjan91 |
Aug 19th 2007, 2:46 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: May 22nd 2007 Member No.: 13,905 Gender: Male |
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| KillerMarv |
Aug 19th 2007, 4:18 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
I agree i almost fell insleep . I don't agree... Even if this episode was not great, it was certainly not monotonous. And IMO, there was never an episode of Stargate (SG-1 or Atlantis) that would fall into this category. And for the record, it's asleep, not insleep. |
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