If you watch carefully, the eventhorizon disappears after the wormhole disengages and the shield is still raised which remains visable.

it is quite strange how that is...in SG-1 most of the baddies are alien looking...the good guys are human looking...well, there are human looking baddies but still...

i was quite suprised when the writers wrote that 50 + Genii died on the way to the city.
That was quite a good story to put in and gave the girl something to react to and that's when you can see that she is thinking about how Shep is trying to protect not only the city but his friends as well and those are good traits.

Yeah lol 50+, you can hear the sound of death hehe.

Great ending to a great storyline. Hopefully that will shut the Genii up for a while.

anyone thinking that sheppard's gonna rig up a small nuke and send it to the genii to show them how to build a nuke ??

Umm...no. Why would be do that?

A great episode. Definitely the best after the pilot two parter. I loved McKay's self description - 'I'm an arrogant person who always thinks his plans will work', or somthing like that. Got to be the best line in Atlantis so far.

Teyla and Sora's (is that her name??) fight scene was good (better than the one in 'Prometheus Unbound'). Didnt think that Teyla was that much of a kick ass girl. Overall, i loved this episode.

Good fightscene, better if not interrupted!
(world premier, HAH)

Good sequel to an OK(film copy) prequel. Seriously though, weir: QUIT. She wanted to return that ginger wifie to the genii. One word: WTF?

Finally, Shepperd should have shot the guy in the control room when he had a chance. And teyla should have killed the Ginger wifie. Lastly, i was soooo happy when they closed the iris on the 60-man company...
Body Count : 55+3+4=62..... Not bad for 40 minutes....

8/10

this episode rocked, an all out shot out and lots of death, with a decent story as well. i think it would be funny if they sent a nuke to the Genii with a note saying "this is how you build a nuke." *boom* so what do you guys think, will the Genii be back again soon or wount they

This was the best episode of Atlantis so far. Sort of reminded me of Die Hard, with Shepard running around Atlantis ruining the bad guy's plans and trying to save the hostages.

We haven't really Shepard in many combat situations, but he was pretty ruthless in this episode, showing no hesitation in killing any of the Genii, even though they still had hostages.
Teyla's fight scene was also good, who knew she was so handy with a knife.

I hope they don't return their Genii prisoner. It's hardly going to make them allies considering all the soldiers they lost. Beside's the Genii seem to be a treacherous, self centered race. Would you really want them as allies?

Phwoar!

Everything stepped up a gear!

I was so glad to see Teyla kick Sora's ASS - was refreshing to see an "easy" fight, where it wasn't always "Oh no, whoever shall win!?"

The Beckett/Ford bickering didn't really do it for me though...Ford seemed too harsh on him, and Beckett seemed too whiny! Enter Teyla, Mediator Extraordinaire!

All in all, I thought the Storm/Eye dual ep was a corker - the Storm set the story up well, and the Eye brought all (or most - why were the Athosians returned so willingly!?) to a good conclusion. Excellent acting by all!

I agree with what's been said before - the dark atmosphere of this episode created by the Shield Massacre and Sheppard's willingness to kill really set this episode apart from anything that has been before, much like The Other Side did for SG-1.

Yeah it was a good episode is suppose. No major complaints and it was good.
Although i realise im not taking atlantis seriously!! I cant take it seriously just seems too unrealistic i guess is a good word. Maybe thats why ive been off a bit lately, itll imporve though im still gonna watch and get the DVDs. But a good episode but not as good as this weeks SG1, but thats been the case most weeks.

High rating / 10

I've got to say i thought this episode was great. A nice way to wrap it all up in a believable way, none of those quick solutions happening to make it all right in a moment.

I've got to agree with what Parmenides said about Ford seeming a little too harsh on Beckett. But i didn't really have that much of a problem with it, it kind of showed Ford's inexperience with leading and handling those who he is supposed to be leading.

And Sheppard, now i am liking the way he was in both the Storm and this episode. It's good to see a more darker response to the situations than was has been on SG1 for the last few weeks. And it's good to see that Sheppard is moving away from the shadow of an O'Neill type character. It's good to see that he can do what is needed to settle a situation, no matter what.

Overall a great episode, i can see good things for Atlantis if it keeps going the way it is.

Okay, if the episode does not air until January 21, and it had to be downloaded to view it. Where can I go to download it?

I liked it. The guy who was threatening to shoot everyone looked really familiar...this might be a really stupid question but has he been in anything else?
I liked the way that Sheppard got away from all the people following him and how he was sort of playing a game with them, and also how Ford actually took control for once (although neither of the people he was ordering around were millitary...
I'm also a Weir/Mckay shipper now. *waits to be shot* I know he was just trying to save himself when he stood in front of the gun but I know there's something there
Overall I thought this was a really good two-parter. But I think they could have actually shown Mckay being tortured..it would have made the ep quite dark (which I like) and would have been great for all the people who really hate him.

Obviously, the highlight of this episode is the Teyla/Sora fight. It was great to see Teyla almost kill Sora. As she was the only Genii they took captive. But killing the 60+ people was another good shot by Sheppard. Hopefully this will teach the Genii a lesson. Sending the nuke through the gate would have been a great idea.

I don't see why everyone is shouting "kill Weir." She is a decent character, and she is competently portrayed. I have considered Ford to be a useless character and this two-parter confirmed it for me. Constantly putting the doctor down was unacceptable. Also, I think McKay's divulging of information was perfectly natural. How long do you think you'd hold out if someone took a knife to your arm? The way Sheppard disposed of the enemy soldiers was reminiscent of Rambo; I quite liked it.

Kolya asks about someone named Aidos, after Sheppard engages the forceshield. I assumed that was his son, but didn't hear any further mention of it. I wonder if it will be addressed in upcoming episdoes.

There are a few things about this two-parter that annoyed me. For one, at the beginning of The Eye, Sheppard appears to be far more wet than he was at the end of The Storm. Additionally, it looks like Carson has gone from freshly-shaven to rather stubbly. This is most likely a function of their production schedule, but I wish it had been better dealt with.

Finally, call me vengeful, but I do feel that SGA should have taken actions in retaliation, to retrieve their medical supplies, and to make it known that it is unwise to attack / betray them.

All things considered, though, it was an excellent two-parter.

This was the greatest SG Atlantis episode I have ever seen and I'm really impressed. The graphics were amazing, humor between Ford and Beckett couldn't have gotten better, and the action was cool.



I wouldn't call it the highlight but it was pretty important. I figured they'd eventually fight. As for the Genii, they're definitely their enemies now ( like they weren't before, but they probably really hate em ). If they flipped about one death goin down the drain, how'll 100 feel?



Me neither, she's obviously a great character. The whole kill idea is really starting to get annoying. If they don't like her, then what do people actually expect out of her?

First of all neither Teyla nor Sheppard would ever kill in cold blood like that! That a was a kill or be killed situation but once Teyla had subdued the Genii there was no reason for her whatsoever to kill her!

Regarding Weir, she is a consumate diplomat she will always try to find a way if possible to make a deal or an arrangement! Is what diplomats do!


Overall I loved this episode the Genii are as devious as the Ashen in fact I wonder if the future there might an alliance between the 2 most evil human empires in 2 galaxies!

OK. I chose not to download this ep so I only just saw it tonite.
For one thing the show turned sour for me when the writers obviously started to pull rabits out their buts to make plot elements work.
Shep' was using his ancient tracking device as was Ford, Teyla, and theDoc, and they both used them meticulously and constantly knowing that anyone could pop around a corner and catch them.
Then, as soon as they catch up to each other they suddenly stop using them?
They then start walking through the city and never once returned to using the device in order to see if anyone was nearby????
My brother and I noticed this instantly. Like "Hey?! You were using it like your life depended on it, and it did, and now you've decided to 'rough it'?"
What was obvious is that they chose to suddenly stop use them so the writers could put in the Teyla fight scene. The writers got really sloppy there with a major inconsistency.

Next. Why didn't Shepperd go after Weir and McKay the moment he turned off the power to the control station with the other tracker the genii were using? He could have saved them both and put a much more serious dent in the works? He had the tracker? He would have seen how many there were with Mckay and Weir.

The show was good for the first 45 minutes until Shep' met up with Ford and the others then it seemed like the writers were trying to find something snappy to let them end it quickly. Like they had run out of interesting ideas to close out the story?

I give the first 45 minutes or so 9/10 but the last 15 minutes gets a big fat zero.

Maybe I'm just getting bored with the stargate series after 8 seasons but I'm starting to see the plot devices and writer-loopholes with much more regularity than I did in the beginning. Maybe it's might fault but I'm also wondering if the writers themselves aren't simply running out of ideas for both show. Either that or they aren't as good at thinking of endings as they used to be.

This post has been edited by MYOB: Jan 22nd 2005, 12:53 AM

why was there a wall of water (100's of miles?) long 2 miles high going 1000mph in the middle of a deep ocean? pretty much vertical too


good episode tho 8/10 overall

This post has been edited by daffy: Jan 22nd 2005, 2:39 AM

Wow wow wow

That was a great episode, especially once they got the jumper back to Atlantis and everyone was running around playing 'cat and mouse'. Loved the action, and (I don't believe I'm actually going to say this ) I liked Weir in this one. All the scenes with her, Rodney and Koyla were really well done, and I gotta give much respect to these actors fo getting absolutely soaking wet for their jobs. ...and act...and play with whatever props in hand...wow.

I loved how the city became one big superconducter, and the VFX of the energy shooting through the city were fantastic, as were all the storm effects.

I also loved how harder-edged this ep is. I was thinking a few oh sh*** when the shield went up and all those Genii were dying against the energy field coming through.

The fight scene between Teyla and that other woman was really well staged and cut together, especially the beats in between their moves when they sized each other up.

Great ep.

When McKay told them remaining people in Atlantis to head to the Control Tower because the high electrical charge that will be running throughout the conduits of the corridor will kill anyone that's there.

Then what about the athosians that are in the Puddle Jumper after Teyla told them to stay there until she tells them they can help?

Sure they may be safe in the Jumper and may be protected from the raw power but then why all rush to the Control Room? What about those in the Jumper?

This post has been edited by Carter-Hot: Jan 23rd 2005, 7:49 AM

i'm pretty sure that the puddle jumper bay sits ontop of the control tower, ^^ the rush to get to the control room was just to back up shepperd when he was about to attack the genii

One of them did state that because the Jumper hanger was part of the main control tower those left in the jumper would be safe while the lightning travelled through the city.