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post Aug 12th 2006, 8:07 PM
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Episode 6 - The Real World
Air Date: August 18, 2006
Elizabeth Weir wakes up in a mental institution, where she is told that the expedition to Atlantis and the Stargate are figments of her imagination.

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post Aug 18th 2006, 9:57 PM
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I thought this episode reminded me of that horror movie with Halle Berry, can't remember what's called though.
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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:01 PM
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terrible episode

thats all i can think of to say about this
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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(Romestar @ Aug 18th 2006, 9:57 PM) *

I thought this episode reminded me of that horror movie with Halle Berry, can't remember what's called though.

Gothika

In the end it reminded me of 'New Order' where Fifth made Carter live through an artificial reality.
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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(toolazytothinkofanoriginalname @ Aug 18th 2006, 11:01 PM) *

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terrible episode

thats all i can think of to say about this


Can't disagree more. I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Torri Higginson can really act. Even my husband gave her kudos, and he's normally very harsh on actors' performances. If he liked it, you know it's bow.gif

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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(toolazytothinkofanoriginalname @ Aug 18th 2006, 9:01 PM) *

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terrible episode

thats all i can think of to say about this


An opinion or response to this thread that is so lame should have been kept to yourself, no reason to go about frustrating other people who enjoyed it, afterall, in my humble opinion, though it didn't further much storyline-wise, it was a good plot and had a splendid cameo appearance from Ricky D.
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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:37 PM
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This was a pretty good episode when it come to Torri Higginson's acting. I wonder if Niam in orbit was somehow communicating with the nanites he had left in her body.

At least this time it wasn't Rodney who saved the day.

RDA's acting in this one was a little less wooden and actually helped with the storyline. I enjoyed his appeance.

Overall, it was a good episode, but I feel it was a budget saver since there was no offworld mission and very little special effects, but it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
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post Aug 18th 2006, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(J&S4Ever @ Aug 18th 2006, 9:37 PM) *

This was a pretty good episode when it come to Torri Higginson's acting. I wonder if Niam in orbit was somehow communicating with the nanites he had left in her body.

At least this time it wasn't Rodney who saved the day.


I was thinking the same thing about Niam, afterall, if the others could reprogram him at the distance he was from his planet, I should think he could control his own nanites from orbit.

Heh, he really wanted to take the credit for that one didn't he? Good going, Becket! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 18th 2006, 11:59 PM
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How is it that in almost every episode Sheppard is always the one who has a major revelation and figures out the problem of every Ep?

The part where Sheppard says to unconscience Weir about saying something profound was a straight rip-off from Oneill in Sg-1, on the Paltak "Now is the time for me to say something profound." Atlantis rips everything they got from Sg-1, mad.gif

This just seemed ripped off from Sg-1's Legacy, where Daniel goes crazy and sees the event horizion in his closet, etc. and Wier in this Ep is supposedly crazy and sees the event horizion in her house, RIP OFF, Big rip off!!
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post Aug 19th 2006, 12:03 AM
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I agree... Torri Higginson can act!!!!

And finally, an episode where O'Neill wasn't purposely being a dumbass.... now can't he do that more often, and in the real world? biggrin.gif

I liked how it was Beckett that came up with the solution to the problem, even though McKay helped out a bit, and then felt compelled to explain it to everybody.

Good character episode!
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post Aug 19th 2006, 2:16 AM
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I liked this ep. Having been in the situation that Weir was in, I honestly think she did a great job with the acting. You can say that this is a rip off of sg1, but name my another successful sci fi show that hasn't done a similar plot.
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post Aug 19th 2006, 3:15 AM
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Well TH's acting was good in this EP, I'll say that. I liked the part where she first tries to escape and gets in a fuss with the one guard and starts kicking things over, the television, that was cool. But it would be nice to see more new ideas rather than old recycled ones, I think the writers are so consumed with their success with Stargate that they've lost their interest in writing good Ep's, its like "oh well we've got this far so writing good Ep's isnt that important" me thinks!
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This was a masterpiece of acting by Torri IMO... I like how they combined the real world with the nanite world. But, all in all, the episode also reminded me of Legacy, The Changeling and Home. Actually it was kind of like The Changeling, that takes place with an alien race like in Home that makes you have halucinations like Daniel in Legacy. Writers are missing some ideas. unsure.gif
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I so agree. She did a masterful job and deserves awards for it. WOW. I was overwhelmed with her acting abilities. Wtf can they not give her more stuff like this. Beautifully done I must say.

This was a great episode even though we did not see much of SGA-1. It was a great character episode. It will change how I preceive her character in the future.

How many of us have had dreams where the people have no faces. Quite scary actually so I love how they incorporated it into the episode. Nicely done as well.

I loved the writing.

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How is it that in almost every episode Sheppard is always the one who has a major revelation and figures out the problem of every Ep?

Um, that would be because he is way smarter than any of us? His IQ is way over 150. That makes him pretty damn smart in my books. That would make him the perfect person to solve Weirs troubles. 1.gif
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post Aug 19th 2006, 7:22 AM
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I liked the episode. But what is this? Is SGA recycling all the cast from Spin City? First Richard Kind in "Irresistable" and now Alan Ruck as the doctor? In his first scene I was like "Go Stuart Bondek" But then he turned out to be bad guy too.
I just can't imagine Michael J. Fox as villain. Well maybe if he played Furling. Shaved one. But I'd like to see Jennifer Esposito if possible as Teyla's cousin or something if that's possible...
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post Aug 19th 2006, 11:25 AM
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Torri did do a very good job in this episode, though I'd like the writers to have explored the symbolism of the "man" or "thing" that kept trying to get at her. What was up with that? The nanites were embodied by the doctor guy (hello, ferris bueller's dorky friend!), so I'd like to know why they repeatedly had a shadowy man (who also growled like an animal) written into the script and then didn't resolve that aspect of what was going on with her character. Didn't it seem kind of like what was the point when there was no resolution or explanation?
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i thought this was a pretty good ep with surprisingly good acting from TH a great jack appearance. i thought the shadowy man was supposed to be sheppherd looking at her through the glass of her quarantine unit thing.
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QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Aug 19th 2006, 12:25 PM) *

Torri did do a very good job in this episode, though I'd like the writers to have explored the symbolism of the "man" or "thing" that kept trying to get at her. What was up with that? The nanites were embodied by the doctor guy (hello, ferris bueller's dorky friend!), so I'd like to know why they repeatedly had a shadowy man (who also growled like an animal) written into the script and then didn't resolve that aspect of what was going on with her character. Didn't it seem kind of like what was the point when there was no resolution or explanation?

It was Sheppard trying to get through to her. The nanites were trying to scare her off that trail though...
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QUOTE(Revan @ Aug 19th 2006, 7:33 PM) *

It was Sheppard trying to get through to her. The nanites were trying to scare her off that trail though...


That kind of sums it up. The sounds and the shadowy man was Sheppard or any other of the others that were standing right next to her bed talking. Her brain could perceive the signals, the nanites were aware of that and were trying to make her really think that those sounds and images are not good, so they added some effects to scare her into not listening and following them.

Also, the nanites were comunicating to her with familiar images, that is why they needed a doctor and a familiar face for the interface; taking the medicine was like accepting their presence and the purpose of the doctor, while seeing a familiar face was kind of like an insurance for her to stay, and the purpose of O'Neill. Like when she was escaping, seeing O'Neill should have lured her away from Sheppard and the real world.
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post Aug 19th 2006, 11:59 AM
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Tori Higginson can act.

There's something new I normally DON'T say. But how could I not after this episode?

Sheppard at the end telling her to "Fight this thing" was a bit cheesey. I mean...significantly cheesy. And it was borderline out-of-character for him to figure out it was a battle of the wills. Weird. But him in the hallway at the SGC telling Weir which way to go was simpley...amazing.

So, pros and cons to the episode.

But that's every episode to Stargate and Atlantis.
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post Aug 19th 2006, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(Lisa @ Aug 19th 2006, 7:59 PM) *

Sheppard at the end telling her to "Fight this thing" was a bit cheesey. I mean...significantly cheesy. And it was borderline out-of-character for him to figure out it was a battle of the wills. Weird. But him in the hallway at the SGC telling Weir which way to go was simpley...amazing.


Yes, it was amazing... but I think he wasn't actually telling her which way to go. Her mind was synthesizing his "you'll know which way to go" words, and making the route as she knew it back when she led the SGC. It was her mind with Sheppard as image telling her which way to go.
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I thought this episode was fantastic. Of course, I love episodes that involve people going crazy....people fighting aliens in their minds...and people having hallucinations. I believe that this makes for great episodes by testing the characters strength. (No doubt that they have done this type of thing before, on SG-1 and SGA. I thought that it had just enough twists to merit it being a great episode, a full three out of five, if not four out of five.)

It was a good episode up until the last 5-10 minutes or so. That's the real reason I wanted to post. I was yelling at the TV when Weir didn't follow Shepperd in the elevator at first, and then the flashed to the three guys running down the hallway. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. (Anytime I yell at the TV, which isn't much, I count it as good writing...because I'm so absorbed into the episode.) And then, at the end, when Shepperd goes into the containment area and grabs her arm, and you could see him in the SGC telling her what was going on. I thought that was bloody fantastic. Excellent writing and excellent acting.

The only thing that seemed a little far-fetched was Shepperd figuring it out. I dunno, it seemed kinda weird. I'm happy it wasn't McKay...but it seemed to come out of no where.

Another thing, I believe there could have been an excellent Weir/Shepperd Shipper moment at the end where Weir could have told Shepperd that she heard him when she was infested by the nanites.

I also think it's weird that Weir didn't recognize the outline of Shepperd. I mean, she's lived with the man for 2+ years. I think you would get used to somebody's outline or whatever. (At least, I tend to do that. I can tell who it is by the way they walk or stand, even if I can't see them.)

Another thing, I really though the episode title was hilarious. When I saw "The Real World" I automatically started saying, "This is the story of eight strangers..." I think that would make a great Real World Season. The people from SG-1 and SGA.

But I thought this was a great episode overall.

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QUOTE(Laitaine @ Aug 19th 2006, 9:57 PM) *

It was a good episode up until the last 5-10 minutes or so. That's the real reason I wanted to post. I was yelling at the TV when Weir didn't follow Shepperd in the elevator at first, and then the flashed to the three guys running down the hallway. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. (Anytime I yell at the TV, which isn't much, I count it as good writing...because I'm so absorbed into the episode.) And then, at the end, when Shepperd goes into the containment area and grabs her arm, and you could see him in the SGC telling her what was going on. I thought that was bloody fantastic. Excellent writing and excellent acting.


QUOTE(Laitaine @ Aug 19th 2006, 9:57 PM) *

I also think it's weird that Weir didn't recognize the outline of Shepperd. I mean, she's lived with the man for 2+ years. I think you would get used to somebody's outline or whatever. (At least, I tend to do that. I can tell who it is by the way they walk or stand, even if I can't see them.)


Well, it's difficult when all of this is a mind game. When you are thinking, your mind deals with things differently than seeing them in real life. She wasn't actually seeing him, her mind was conceiving him when interracting with his voice. So, that is how her mind was playing tricks. The decision to follow your mind while two ideas are in opposition is quite hard. Your mind has to be sure what is the right choice. You see Sheppard or you don't see him, how he looks like, what does he try to tell me, should I follow him or is he part of the scenario...
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It was good ep i gave it 4 of 5, nice acting by TH and of course u always gotta love RDA


QUOTE(DrM007 @ Aug 19th 2006, 1:22 PM) *

I liked the episode. But what is this? Is SGA recycling all the cast from Spin City? First Richard Kind in "Irresistable" and now Alan Ruck as the doctor? In his first scene I was like "Go Stuart Bondek" But then he turned out to be bad guy too.
I just can't imagine Michael J. Fox as villain. Well maybe if he played Furling. Shaved one. But I'd like to see Jennifer Esposito if possible as Teyla's cousin or something if that's possible...


Thanks for that i couldnt remember where i saw that guy, and i would also like to see JE in future ep, shes hot 1.gif
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