Just have to comment on this episode, as I've seen it about four times now...

As someone with personal experience concerning multiple personalities, this episode was pretty interesting (if not somewhat triggering, heh). It is really one of the "talkiest" episodes I've seen... I think the most "action" in this one is at the beginning when they're all hit by the stun that Pharrin set off. It does seem like a showcase for Michael Shank's acting... which was pretty incredible. He seems to be pretty good in these sort of roles, and he pulled off this particular role very well... if not too well. As mentioned, he assumed the different personalities down to the facial expressions, posture, tone of voice, even accent. It was pretty obvious they researched multiple personalities and dissociation for this episode, removed to a science-fiction concept... still, there was "switching", fragments (apparently, as there only seem to be three dominant, fully-formed personalities), the comatose host (Daniel only emerged for a couple seconds during the episode), etc. that I recognize. But still, I would have to agree that MS almost overdid it a little. The way the personalities argued aloud was almost too humorous, like a Gollum complex. I say this tentatively, but if the performance were truer to the reality, then MS should have been more subtle about the extent to which the personalities had control. There was no system to it, just a lot of people all jumbled together, each with apparently complete control until they randomly switch. I agree that Pharrin's acting was a little closer to it. But Shank's performance is still admirable... dulling the rest of the episode (which is pretty laid-back, with the rest of the characters either knocked out or watching multiple!Daniel, with very simple performances).

Still, gotta kick out of O'Neill's line. "I dare you to say that again."

He probably seemed to fit pretty well into the role because of all the similar episodes he's acted in... his character seems to always be going insane or a little psychotic. I think that each time he gets one of these episodes he seems to put more into it and try to better the last one... I think it's getting to the point where he's trying TOO hard in these types of roles and it shows.

TR & MGS were the stars in this show, baby! Well done...Always wanted to see more D/J interaction.

All right, I for one was glad that CJ & RDA didn't explode something or kill someone for once

Though I'll grant you I didn't like Martice none. I agree with some others that they shoulda told us what happened to the crew of the Stromos. [I]

I enjoy Mike's range and vocal accents. Tryan was almost companionable & Keenin was positively adorable! James Parks was brilliant as Keenin?s father Pharrin as well.


Sorry, sidebar: Names are a passion of mine. Does anyone know if Martice, Tryan, Keenin, or Pharrin are actual names? If so, any idea what they mean??

Tor: Thunder--Norse
Jonah: Dove--Hebrew
Jarren (sp?): To Shout Out--Hebrew
Carlin: Little Champion--Gaelic Remember them?

Okay, details aren't everyone's cup of choice...But, any comments or corrections are welcome.

This post has been edited by Jackson_Fan: Oct 28th 2003, 8:43 PM

Ok just seen that in the UK and I have to say it wasn't my most fav of season 7 but i still liked the whole idea. Michael Shanks acting was great especially when he played that little kid
Umm what was with that season 5 box set advert afterwards i think that was the region 1 one lol.

Also i thought the idea of the lottery on the passengers homeworld was cool, where they got selected etc. That reminds me of i think the film was called "Deep Impact"

Jonny

This post has been edited by Jon The UK SG-1 Fan: Nov 3rd 2003, 4:23 PM

I just saw this one for the first time tonight and I really liked it. Ok, so I'm partial because it had lots of MS in it and you know that I'm just going to love any episode that's got lots of Danny in it I had a few chuckles at first when MS was doing the accent thing to begin with but when I got used to it I realised just how good an actor he really is. Especially when he played the boy Keenin or whatever his name was, I thought it was really sad and emotional, even though I was still having a bit of a laugh seeing him act like a vulnerable little child.
Am I the only one who has noticed a real friendship emerging between Daniel and Teal'c? I've noticed them being "closer" in ways from the beginning of this season but something in this ep really brought it out to me. I guess it was just the way that Teal'c was there watching over Daniel quite alot. Jack also seems to have got alot more softer and caring in his old age. Aww...there all turning into mushy softies!

Anyway, despite what alot of people have said about there being no action and therefore it was a boring ep, I say it was good! I would rather watch an episode like this than watch one that was just non-stop action. But that's because I'm a much and a sucker for anything emotional (especially an emotional Danny )

After reading 3 pages of posts, i am amazed to see that many people dislike this episode and find it boring. I thought this episode was one of the best of ALL the seasons, (even though it did lack the humour and presance of RDA) and it is certainly my favourite episode of the season so far.

Although i thought that the writers could have done more with this ep, as the actual basic storyline of this episode had so much potential, the excellent acting from both MS and TR redeemed and transformed it entirely.

Ever since "The Rite Of Passage" i have been waiting for another episode where TR has a chance to be in the spotlight, and in "Lifeboat", i got my wish.

For those who have said that MS's acting was over the top, i cant stress enough how wrong you are. I dont know if anyone here has ever known or spent time with someone who has a personality disorder related to schizophrenia, but my grandfather had it, (basically he had multiple personalities that would pop up every now and then), and before he died, (of natural causes not of something related to his illness), he was counted to have had 3 different personalities "inside" him. There was my kind, loving grandfather (i guess you could call it his "original" personality) that you could have a laugh with, but then there was my cold, detached grandfather that always wanted to be left alone, and there was my agressive, arrogent and downright rude grandfather that hated everyone and wasnt affraid to show it.
I think it was Dorian that said that she thought MS's facial expressions/posture (body language basically) was exaggerated, but this is in fact, EXACTLY how someone with this kind of disorder conducts themselves. The way he suddenly switched back and forth from personality to personality, and the way in which he conducted himself was spot on. I dont think i have the words to describe just how incredible MS's acting really was in this episode.

I dunno....maybe you cant really compare this disorder to what Daniel went through in this episode, but i do know that although the personalities inside Daniel were quiet different to that of my grandfather, the way in which he acted was so much like someone with this condition, from the way he switched personalities to his use of body language, that it was almost like seeing my grandfather brought back to life.

*Pauses to take a breath*

Yip I totally agree with you Emmyloo - I LOVED THIS EPISODE - MS was brilliant in it, and so was Teryl. I think it has been my fave too - but I do think season 7 has been good all round, the only thing I have been disappointed in is the Jack thing - him not being in it as much - but you know eps like this one just go to prove that ok RICHARD DEAN ANDERSON comes up first before everything in the opening credits (which I always found a bif off) but you dont NEED him there to make Stargate good - ALL the cast have it in them to be the star of the show. (and believe me I never thought I would say that)

can wait till the next installment - roll on next Monday.

?89.99 + p&p I think not I paid ?49.99 at Nostalgia for my series 5 boxset

Back to topic..it was an ok episode. I suppose that I like a little more action on Stargate though MS did redeem himself a little in my book! The kid was cute, the monarch arrogant and the crewman reasonable but as someone pointed out earlier, the episode did seem to missing something. TR was excellant as usual, it's just a shame that the writers have waited until season 7 before they "employ" her acting skills.

BTW did anyone else notice that when Sam woke up in the infirmary the first thing she said was "Jack"?...or was that my imagination?

i thought the first thing she said was Janet! you must be hear or wishing for things, lol

I though it was a good ep! i like the part where jack was on bout nails in his head.
i would say this is the second best ep of season 7 behind Fragile Balance.

I doubt they would make that mistake as to advertise the region one boxset - what makes you think this anyway? I don't remember what it looked like to tell if it was region 2 or not, but based on the fact that the region 1 season 5 boxset hasn't been released as of yet in the US I don't think it was the case. Season 5 is the most recent boxset to be released in the UK and so it would make sense to me if this was why they were advertising it.

Yes, what she said was definitely 'Janet?' ... I think someone here might be getting too caught up in shipping issues which are clouding their judgement and making them mishear things

but the region 2 one is green and the one they showed was red/orange which i think is the region 1 one. ?89.99 lol who do they think they're kidding like ?45 on play.com

I agree with everybody who thinks this is a great ep. I think it is the 2nd best ep of series 7 [next to Fallen] so far. MS was briliant at acting especially how he had to change roles so quickly. That said though we have done the DJ going crazy and crash landing Ship thing a bit much now.

Actually, Jack was the first thing Daniel said when he got his body back for himself...hmm, Daniel always calls out for Jack first...more to support my case of the possibility of Jack & Daniel

Anyways, back to the topic. I watched this again last night and I have to say that I was mostly watching to see if he did over act at all. When he was playing the sovreign guy (I've forgot his name) it did seem a little over the top but then I've never know anyone with the same sort of condition so I don't kow how they really act. But when he was the engineer guy Tyran he was really really good, the kid was also good but he played Tyran the best I think.

BTW What kind of accents were they? They sounded sort of English to me but then again they didn't at times

I loved this episode alot more than i thought i would (teaches you not to read spoilers) but there is one thing i didn't like, the ending. It ended in complete for me, i mean they showed Daniel waking up and said a few words then they closed, i would of liked to see more of the 'waking' the people.

This post has been edited by ramuund: Nov 4th 2003, 6:51 PM

yer i was waiting for that and was dissapointed when it didn't happen!

they would of freak when they saw sg-1 and sg-4!

I disagree... I think it was a perfect ending. Some stories are better with full closure, but usually I think the only ones it's totally essential to provide full closure on are the major story arcs.

The effect of leaving a story such as this as they did means that the viewers can form their own opinions on what would have happened. Since this episode will most definitely not ever be revisited for a follow-up episode this is fine because the viewer won't suddenly find out that they were wrong or anything like that. Letting viewers form their own opinions usually makes them happier as they can visualize the ending that they would like.

Sam and Daniel both said Janet...not Jack.
Which just goes to show that they like haing janet around as much as I do.

It was great to see Janet again but for and episode where they said there were at least 12 people in Daniel I was disapointted that we only got to see three of them.

Shanks is brilliant as the schizo! He played his different personallities excellent. It just shows that he can do so much more than just play "nerd" Daniel...

Two thumbs up!

Greetz, King Hans

I agree he played the different personalities perfectly.....

I liked the little scared Kid one....

This post has been edited by The Evil One: Nov 5th 2003, 3:32 PM

My favorite was the crewman. He had a dignity that Daniel doen't have.

I'm glad they gotten Michael Shanks into the psycho outfit again. He's always good in it. The bit with the child was excellent. I particularly enjoyed Teryl Rothery's involvement.

Right on! Out of S7, Lifeboat, Fallen, & Evolution are my faves...This is one of my all time favorite shows! Positively brilliant

i also liked this one , my little brother dont get into scifi much ,but he loved lifeboat so my point is ..u dont have to be a stargate or even a scifi freak to see what a grate show stargate can ( is ) be any one can wach and enjoy it

This post has been edited by +++becky+++: Nov 7th 2003, 7:36 PM

I thought Michael Shanks played a spectacular performance- his ability to switch between personalities like that and make it look so convincing was amazing- especially with the little boy- I was nearly crying at the end!