And now that I read back a little further on these comments (and just to get completely nit-picky), I was reminded that I was highly doubtful that Ronan and Shep could have closed that door when decompression occurred. If it's impossible to open a car door from the inside underwater, I can't see how this would be possible either. But...that Ronan does have some pretty large muscles, so what do I know?

Aaaaand...the crash landing thing without a nick or a scratch was a bit hard to swallow as well. I mean, couldn't there have been just a little blood? Or possibly a broken bone? How about a concussion at least. I'll settle for a concussion.

I thought the storyline was an interesting one - an Ark Nouveau as it were, but they should have had a few of the people re-materialize or whatever because the two that we got generally failed to impress and make me care about what happened to them anyway.

A similar storyline and much better done was in Star Trek TNG where Picard gets zapped by that space probe thingy and essentially lives out an entire lifetime in order to propagate the memory of a people long dead. That was a good episode, but I digress....

Ok, so I didn't exactly expect it to explode, but it seemed a little too convenient. He managed to get atmospheric reentry with no problems, no scorching of the hull, no worrying about much of anything except they were going down fast. That's what I had a problem with. Even our shuttles wait for the atmospheric window for reentry. Granted, this one was far more sophisticated (despite Sheppard's comments) but considering all the trouble they kept having, suddenly being able to understand what the nifty 1960s buttons and switches meant was a stretch.

Maybe it was the fact that I found much of this episode over-done and over the top and I'm taking it out on the ending.

Scotty is stuck in the transporter again, huh? They re-used too many old storylines for this one IMO. I'm ready for next week to move the story along a bit...

I don't recall the door closing.

If he was pulling it against the current of air, it would have been highly difficult to close, otherwise it would have slammed shut on its own.

Yeah, he (Sheppard) closed 2 doors. For dramatic effect, they kept the wind blowing even after he got one of the doors closed. Was a little unrealistic, and in all reality, he shouldn't have gotten the first one closed given the direction of air flow. Now, I'm just working off of memory, so I'll double check it tonight when I get home, I just remember thinking the same thing when I re-watched it on Friday.

Soooo not my favorite episode. It was rather boring in parts. Reminded me too much of several other episodes. However, I never grow tired of seeing Rodney girl-out when somethin bad happens. lol

This was not a good episode in opposite it was the wors ever (if you ask me) - It reminded tooo much of several other episodes - it was boring, and i think Teyla could easily get t he gun from the old man.

Of which episodes are you reminded?

There is a risk of getting shot, or putting a bullet through the walls and causing decompression, if you try to disarm a person.

When you disarm a handgun at close range, you can attack the gun from the outside, and the forearm from the inside, turning the gun away, while twisting it out of the person's hand. However, the gun may go off anyways, and though it won't hit you, it could hit somebody else, or something else.

I think that the wals in a space shutle are bulet proof.
Off course there's a risk of getting shot, so is the risk to burn in the atmosfere - with all of your friend abord.

Even worse... If walls are bullet proof, bullets could bounce and hit either someone else or a critical system, as Revan said.

Wouldn't a bullet proof shuttle be extremely heavy? Ok, in space that wouldn't be a problem but on re-entry, it wouldn't make for good flying.

Well, they have been making very light bullet proof materials lately, like ArmorCore fiberglass for instance. Even with more layers of such materials in a ship, I think it would still make the ship light enough for an easy to handle re-entry. Of course, we're talking about an alien ship now, but I think the specific race would have been advanced enough to think of similar methods.

It's like,

"Why not make an entire airplane out of that blackbox material?!?!?!"
"Well sonny Jim, it is because the plane wouldn't be able to fly..."


We don't even know that this race was all that advanced. They "borrowed" some of their technology from the Wraith, but overall, that station didn't look all that advanced.

Teyle was the only one there....I don't see a problem.


It was in an asteriod, I don't think they built it with landing in mind...

Actualy it was a space shutle ment to land on a planet and re-populate it .

He actually said


This post has been edited by Uncle JTMAG1: Aug 19th 2007, 3:51 PM

IP was referring to the shuttle though which was built to ferry the people back down to the planet hence they must have built it with a re-entry and landing in mind.

Pretty nice episode I really like it
the moon was sooo alike as Phobos