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post Jul 30th 2006, 6:41 AM
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Talking about acting... the guy who plays Ronin (I don't even remember his name, lol) was boring as always, but more significantly I was disappointed by Rachel Luttrell. Really, out of all the main cast she was the only one who couldn't act to be "under the spell". Teyla and Ronin, they are both so uninteresting that I don't look forward to any character episodes.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 6:46 AM
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I'm sure there are better episodes of Atlantis coming up... Trust me... Until episode 13, we will see great episodes. Just in case you don't believe me:

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Oh yeah. Great episodes in our near future. laugh.gif
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post Jul 30th 2006, 7:33 AM
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Yes, I have a feeling the story line of this season will be a lot better than the crap we were served in season 2.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 8:29 AM
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QUOTE(Arcady @ Jul 29th 2006, 10:33 AM) *
Weir has the same desk lamp as me. I want to know where the hell she plugs that in. Do they have AC outlets in Atlantis?


They may use a naquadah generator, i'm sure they found a way to make it work with our usual appliances.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 9:01 AM
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I'm not sure i got the gatebridge idea. I assume gates can only be connected with the usual power usage if they are close enough (half a galaxy, let's say, as it seams they need more than 2 to get to the outer Pegasus), so they're trying to place gates so that they'll get to the milky way? How, exactly?
I mean even if they placed one gate in Pegasus in the closest solar system to the milky way and even if they did the same for the milky way, theese 2 gates could never connect to each other becasue of the huge void between the galaxies, void that is much larger than a galaxy... Did i get it right?
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post Jul 30th 2006, 9:54 AM
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Opher, don't double post hon. Use the edit button. wink.gif And for your question, I think they're placing a whole lot of gates in between the two galaxies to create the gate bridge so that there's not that much distance between jumps therefore they can hop from one to the next until they reach the Milky Way.

I thought the episode was fun. biggrin.gif It was good for a laugh and it's funny to see them act a little out of character for a one off. I loved Beckett's and Weir's reactions especially, and Sheppard's little teasing at the end.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(magnavox @ Jul 30th 2006, 5:54 PM) *

Opher, don't double post hon. Use the edit button. wink.gif And for your question, I think they're placing a whole lot of gates in between the two galaxies to create the gate bridge so that there's not that much distance between jumps therefore they can hop from one to the next until they reach the Milky Way.

I thought the episode was fun. biggrin.gif It was good for a laugh and it's funny to see them act a little out of character for a one off. I loved Beckett's and Weir's reactions especially, and Sheppard's little teasing at the end.


Sorry, forgot about the first post, promise to do better next time wink.gif
Thanks for the unswer smile.gif Still, what about the gap between the galaxies where there are no planets?
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post Jul 30th 2006, 11:26 AM
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They probably gona place gates in empty space betwen galaxies and then dial from one gate to another until they reach destination, they will probably use jumpers travel, since they have DHD built in, or maybe they will build like space stations around the gate for protection and stuff.



And for all of u that dont like SGA, stop watching it, im really sick of reading ur whyning posts, if u dont have something smart to say shut up.

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post Jul 30th 2006, 11:49 AM
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Well, it was a funny episode, but not as good as the last two episodes! Yes, Lucius, played by Richard Kind, was one of the scientists who tried to crack the Heiroglyphs in the original Stargate movie. Funny how things can come full circle. It was interesting to see Ronan laugh, but for me it was a little disturbing to see Weir flirty, I guess she just does the serious roles better IMO. I loved Beckett and McKay's goofiness, hanging on every word Lucius sad, and that Lucius was a baker with no friends before. I guess he wasn't to bright since the only gift he could give was a gourd candle holder! 1.gif
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post Jul 30th 2006, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 29th 2006, 11:38 PM) *

One of the scientists that was helping open the gate. He and .....goodness I cannot remember her name.....the old broad with that gold pendent/chain that recruited Daniel in the first place.


Catherine, with her Ra pendant.


Some of the acting in this episode was entirely ridiculous. Not all of it good... Weir and Beckett were hilarious, but Teyla and Ronon were boring as ever. OVerall, I liked the episode. The only problem I had was its inanity.
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QUOTE(Subfer @ Jul 30th 2006, 7:26 PM) *

They probably gona place gates in empty space betwen galaxies and then dial from one gate to another until they reach destination, they will probably use jumpers travel, since they have DHD built in, or maybe they will build like space stations around the gate for protection and stuff.
And for all of u that dont like SGA, stop watching it, im really sick of reading ur whyning posts, if u dont have something smart to say shut up.


Thanks, i probably should have thought of that myself blush.gif
As Marv said, it will only get better for the SGA smile.gif
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post Jul 30th 2006, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 30th 2006, 6:39 AM) *

What exactly did you mean by the bolder areas. Did you want to see him have sex with them? What? blink.gif


Well not that far.. I mean they had Weir cooking for him.. Wish I could see her feeding him while she got all giddy with happiness while Teyla gave him a backrub
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post Jul 30th 2006, 2:29 PM
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Rkenshin it is ok love I was bantering with you. I do that often! wink.gif

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The gatebridge is a dumbass ideal and could never ever work. Both gate systems work with constilations to create a 3 D box with the gate in side that box. Between both galaxies there are no planet or create constilations thus it is impossible to work. BUT the greatest reason it would never work is the following:

Atlantis gates and MW gates use different constilations. So the Atlantis gang places a bunch of gates and the SGC places alot of the MW gates but when they meet one cannot dial the other nor would they even get close to each other for the jumper to exit one and dial the next. I think the producers think we are stupid. That was one thing that RDA was able to do. He made sure they did not dumb down the show. Since he has left they have done that lots of times.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 2:41 PM
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Well.. Couldn't they just hardcode a set of gate symbols into each stargate?

Then it would make sense and be harder for any outside threat to gain access to the Gatebridge..
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post Jul 30th 2006, 3:04 PM
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But the gates work with constilations. Between galaxies there is immense distances. The gates would not work that way. Though, I guess what they could do is place one gate at the very edge of the PG and one at the very edge of the MW and use the 8th symbol. That way the last gate could jump the vast void.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 4:10 PM
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The only two things of interest in this episode were that we got to see a completely different side of Weir and that Sheppard finally came across as a somewhat stronger and more serious character. Otherwise, the premise was painfully superficial and the comedic element was stretched far too thinly.
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post Jul 30th 2006, 4:30 PM
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Simply, Worst Atlantis Episode Ever!

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post Jul 30th 2006, 6:02 PM
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 30th 2006, 10:29 PM) *

Atlantis gates and MW gates use different constilations. So the Atlantis gang places a bunch of gates and the SGC places alot of the MW gates but when they meet one cannot dial the other nor would they even get close to each other for the jumper to exit one and dial the next. I think the producers think we are stupid. That was one thing that RDA was able to do. He made sure they did not dumb down the show. Since he has left they have done that lots of times.


In The Pegasus Project, they used a gate from the MW, to connect from the Pegasus galaxy to the MW, before they used the warheads to make the connection jump. The adresses in void however will have no sense, I agree with you. They would need to use the sattelite galaxies that exist inside the void.

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But the gates work with constilations. Between galaxies there is immense distances. The gates would not work that way. Though, I guess what they could do is place one gate at the very edge of the PG and one at the very edge of the MW and use the 8th symbol. That way the last gate could jump the vast void.


That would require a ZPM for that gate. And since, if we find another ZPM, we can use it to power the Earth gate, there would be no point in wasting one for that.
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I, for one, like this series. I at least like the premise and the potential. This episode, though could have been left out. It just wasn't up to par. I don't have a problem with Richard Kind, but I agree the character wasn't a very good one. I think it was just a poorly written episode. My $.02...
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QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 30th 2006, 3:29 PM) *

Rkenshin it is ok love I was bantering with you. I do that often! wink.gif

Break

The gatebridge is a dumbass ideal and could never ever work. Both gate systems work with constilations to create a 3 D box with the gate in side that box. Between both galaxies there are no planet or create constilations thus it is impossible to work. BUT the greatest reason it would never work is the following:

Atlantis gates and MW gates use different constilations. So the Atlantis gang places a bunch of gates and the SGC places alot of the MW gates but when they meet one cannot dial the other nor would they even get close to each other for the jumper to exit one and dial the next. I think the producers think we are stupid. That was one thing that RDA was able to do. He made sure they did not dumb down the show. Since he has left they have done that lots of times.

Remember what Baal was going to do with his stolen gates? They only need to find a way to reprogram the gate to dial a specific other gate when given a certain address.


QUOTE(Auntie Em! @ Jul 30th 2006, 4:04 PM) *

But the gates work with constilations. Between galaxies there is immense distances. The gates would not work that way. Though, I guess what they could do is place one gate at the very edge of the PG and one at the very edge of the MW and use the 8th symbol. That way the last gate could jump the vast void.

Manual dialing uses constellations. DHD's use correlative update programs, the same old address but new position. If you know the new position of a gate, its new address would probably work as well. Manual dialing targets a specific region of space and locks on to the nearest gate. They could just park a bunch of gates out in the void with stabilizer thrusters to keep them in place.


QUOTE(KillerMarv @ Jul 30th 2006, 7:02 PM) *

In The Pegasus Project, they used a gate from the MW, to connect from the Pegasus galaxy to the MW, before they used the warheads to make the connection jump. The adresses in void however will have no sense, I agree with you. They would need to use the sattelite galaxies that exist inside the void.
That would require a ZPM for that gate. And since, if we find another ZPM, we can use it to power the Earth gate, there would be no point in wasting one for that.

The gate was hard-wired using special crystals to target a specific other gate. McKay mentioned something about it. That is how they dialed the stargate floating by the supergate.
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QUOTE(Dr. Prozac @ Jul 30th 2006, 6:00 AM) *

And Lucius Lavin will be back in episodes 13!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816948/

Please let that be a better episodes than this one!



OH GOD NO! NO NO NO!

I really can't stand that guy.
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OH GOD NO! NO NO NO!

I really can't stand that guy.


I am not sure he is the center of attention... I sincerely hope not dry.gif
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QUOTE(Janos @ Jul 29th 2006, 9:18 AM) *

I've only got one thing to say about this episode.

Hathor.



Yep, but this one was no good. After raving about the SG1 episode that BW had written, I had hopes for this one because he wrote it with RCC. Martin Wood directed it. It had all the makings and should have been good, but it stank to high heaven!

I said, as soon as I saw that Richard Kind was in the episode it was slated to be a comedic one, but with him in it, good luck. Once again, I was proved correct. It was awful.

Some of you have made comments about the acting and how bad it was. What I picked up on was, the actors didn't want to do the episode. They were in a series, a story was written, but it was a bad one. I saw them as being facetious, not interested in doing anything good. It's a paycheck, we film. Weir's facial expression when Lucius said we have to talk about marriage, said it all. She was trying but just could not do it. I also felt they made Becket look like an idiot when he cried because Lucius needed him.

The only good thing was Shep being totally serious and looking out for Atlantis and everyone.
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I was being superficial two days ago. I had just arrived at my parent's house (who are on vacation) - instead of living in a small room, I suddenly had a house and I got lazy the whole day. Felt like I had a barony myself. Then I watched Atlantis and it served my mood perfectly. Ahhh nice, I thought.

However, there are a lot of inadequacies. The story is thin, the overall writing is lacking, and it all relies on the main cast's ability to act and make it funny. Beckett was good, so was Weir, McKay was okay.

Auntie, I agree with you a lot more now. It was a weak episode and not nearly as brilliant as I thought on first view.

Sighfie, you are right about Sheppard! When he met Ben Browder in the SG-1 episode, I realized that Ben is a more experienced, more serious actor and frankly, the shortcomings of SGA have a lot to do with their mediocre actors. Compare Ronin and Teyla to Teal'c - both the (unconvincing) characters, and the actors - and you know what I mean. Now that you mention it, it almost seems as if Flanigan realized he should get more serious after guest starring in the SG-1 episode, so he worked on it in Irresistible. When he tried to convince Beckett in the jumper, he was really making progress; Joe Flanigan can't keep the same acting up that he did for two seasons, or the series will get more and more boring.

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I saw them as being facetious, not interested in doing anything good. It's a paycheck, we film. Weir's facial expression when Lucius said we have to talk about marriage, said it all. She was trying but just could not do it.

I was having the same thought... which leaves a sad taste to this episode.

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