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post Mar 11th 2003, 3:30 PM
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REVISIONS

The team encounters a planet with a society that has lived for centuries within a computer-controlled environment within a bubble. Outside, the rest of the world is a toxic wasteland.

O'Neill, Teal'c, Sam and Daniel meet the inhabitants, who live very simply (think medieval) but are all linked to the computer through little devices on their head. The inhabitants are friendly, and possibly quite willing to do some trading, so Daniel and Sam go off with a young married couple, while Jack and Teal'c stay with a father and his son. Nevin, the son, begins to hero-worship Jack and wants to be just like him.

SG-1 offers them a better life via relocation to another world, but the inhabitants are oddly reluctantly to leave a world (albeit it very small and restrictive) where everything is provided to them by the computer link. Some of the folk are amenable to leaving, but suddenly change their minds. While Daniel discovers shocking evidence in the townfolks' library, the rest of SG-1 realizes that the computer is altering the inhabitants memories, possibly to the point that the townsfolk could pose a threat to SG-1.

Characters include Council, Kendrick, Nevin, Evalla, Pallan.

#thanks to 'ferret' for the tip

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sg1_spoilme/
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post Mar 11th 2003, 7:47 PM
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This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots.

It also reminds me of an episode of the Outer Limits where everyone got hooked up to this network of computers that allowed people to send thoughts to each other and download knowledge. In that episode, the computer wouldn't let the people out and used whatever means it could to kill the only guy left who wasn't hooked up so that the computer AI would never be shut down. Stupid AI's all have self-preservation as their top priorities, and so they refuse to be shut off.
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post Mar 12th 2003, 1:43 AM
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Haha just saw that episode of sliders last night here. On liners and off liners...they hated each other

Good call PAL, but you are Canadian I should have expected as much
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post Mar 15th 2003, 8:17 PM
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is it like the matrix?
or is the like the second episode of "the gamekeeper"?
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post Mar 15th 2003, 8:30 PM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 11 2003, 07:47 PM)
This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots.

Which is like an episode of seaQuest called playtime:

The crew are sent 200 years into the future where only 2 kids are left alive. Only these 2 are left because everything was run by computers; therefore, everyone stayed home, played computer games and stopped having sex.

So far we have gone from Stargate SG-1 to Sliders to seaQuest, can anyone link it to a 4th show (how about another one starting with S).
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post Mar 16th 2003, 11:52 AM
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Couldn't get the thing to copy the stupid message. GRRRR. Anyway, somebody asked if there are any other shows that this stroy is similar to. I was thinking that it sounds like aST:NG episode. I forget the title, but it has the planets population genetically linked to the enviorment in which they live. If anyone leaves, it "throws off" the balance of the world.
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post Mar 16th 2003, 12:36 PM
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Daniel is in the first ep? Coolness! I think that the episode of sliders was not on line of line. There is an actual episode where the robots do everything but then end up turning on the humons (there creators). I remember one robot was smitten by Wade.

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post Mar 16th 2003, 1:09 PM
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i think is eps should be good one
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post Mar 16th 2003, 4:31 PM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 11 2003, 07:47 PM)
This reminds me of an episode of Sliders where everyone lived in their homes and never left because the Internet was so advanced they got everything they needed delivered to them by robots.

It also reminds me of an episode of the Outer Limits where everyone got hooked up to this network of computers that allowed people to send thoughts to each other and download knowledge. In that episode, the computer wouldn't let the people out and used whatever means it could to kill the only guy left who wasn't hooked up so that the computer AI would never be shut down. Stupid AI's all have self-preservation as their top priorities, and so they refuse to be shut off.

It reminds me of an episode of Stargate where a race of people were living inside a virtual reality to escape until their world had recovered from the impact of their society, however, unknown to them was that the world had recovered long ago.

But seriously, they better make it origonal lol.
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post Mar 16th 2003, 5:43 PM
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The computer AI better be smart. All Sci-Fi shows/book series will eventually touch on AI. Most of them predict that AI will be the greatest enemy ever to face humanity. I think that we should stop developing AI in the real world, or at least not make it very good. I'd rather not be stuck in the Matrix or anything like it.
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post Mar 18th 2003, 9:40 AM
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I think all sci-fi eventually does an episode with a computer hooked into the brain society.

Just imagine how convinient that would be...having a computer jack straight into your head......
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post Mar 18th 2003, 4:01 PM
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The Star Trek TNG ep where a whole race is hocked in 2 a computer is called 11001001
and the race need the computer for everything even life suport

In andromeda some of the people in that have ports in the base of there necks so u can just plug it in 2 a computer and access information
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post Mar 18th 2003, 7:00 PM
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they seem like a little off the Borg from startrek, by a little i mean a great amount, but anyway the Borg are half cyborg and half robotic, and are linked together with a collectvie mind, and have no induvidiality. T

They go round assimulating advancded and backward rases to either gain technology or resoursces, or just for the sake of it. There goal is to take over the universe by assimulating every being into there collective.

They assimulate ppl, ships, stations and planets.

and they.....




Hmz got carried away there.

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post Mar 21st 2003, 6:29 PM
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The borg just try 2 bring perfection 2 every race!, thats why they assmilate them!
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 1:08 AM
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If they want perfection they need some wigs and face cream
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post Mar 22nd 2003, 2:37 AM
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Ok first Stargate...then Sliders...hmm...then startrek...then andromeda...then starttrek again? i want more SPOILERS!

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post Mar 23rd 2003, 6:30 AM
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Spoiler: "Best of Both Worlds"

Jack takes command of the Prometheus to meet the Thor, who has somehow left the controls to his transporter on the top shelf and requires the assistance of the Tau're. When Jack arives he is faced by a massive cube shaped vessel and obducted. Cater and Daniel must battle corridors filled with treacle on board Thor's ship as the treacle suppression system is offline, make their way to Thor's quaters and beam O'Neill off. Little do they know that O'Neill has already been assimilated by Readers Digest.

Theres a spoiler for ya.
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post Mar 23rd 2003, 3:22 PM
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This has got to be the most hilarious "non spoiler" spoiler column I have read:
re Reader's Digest.. " I am Jack's brain. Hello..... it echoes rather a lot in here...."

Although this is all begging to be deleted as off topic I am sure that a new topic entitled spoilers for episodes that should never happen may be popular.

The STNG episode was to do with environmental balance not so much computer stuff where some bod fell in love with Deana? It sounds a bit like the guy who " invented" the idea of cyberspace William Gibson?? was it and Neuromancer?? Meant to be one of the basics of the Matrix. This could have interesting implications about whether SG1 should destroy the "perfect world " set up - non interference? So if done from a different point of view with a twisty turny thing at the end it could be good.
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post Mar 24th 2003, 8:35 PM
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Hi all... New here but not new to SG1...

What about the movie Logan's Run.. Everything in the movie was run by computers..
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post Apr 7th 2003, 7:35 PM
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Well, since everyone is talking about what this episode reminds them of, has anyone ever read Orson Scott Card's homecoming series? This episode sounds reminiscent of it, or of Arthur C. Clark's "City and the Stars"
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post May 8th 2003, 10:25 PM
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Ok, this sounds like a good ep but what hell went wrong with the forum? by last post, I was SOOOOO lost, I did not know what the forum was about....FOCUS ppl....FOCUS......
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post Jun 14th 2003, 7:51 AM
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I would SO love to see a short, maybe 3 minute Stargate ep.

The stargate begins an incomming dial, the alarm sounds. Hammond in the control room orders the iris to close, but it has malfunctioned. the 7th chevron locks and the whoosh goes, as several personel in the gate room all have their guns aimed at the gate. Suddenly Quinn, Rembrandt, Arturo, and Wade suddenly step out of the wormhole, and yell "WE'RE HOME!!!"

OR mabye anoter short where the same thing happens, only this time Sam Becket steps through it, sees the guns, and goes, "Oh boy...."


Just wishfull thinking... whistling.gif

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post Jun 16th 2003, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (PAL @ Mar 16 2003, 05:43 PM)
The computer AI better be smart. All Sci-Fi shows/book series will eventually touch on AI. Most of them predict that AI will be the greatest enemy ever to face humanity. I think that we should stop developing AI in the real world, or at least not make it very good. I'd rather not be stuck in the Matrix or anything like it.

Ok, the 3 Laws of Robotics set down by Asimov are probalby not going to be put to use, since AI and Robotics are in the hands of business and government.. both of which tend to be... less than concerned about morality...

Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics:

#1 A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

#2 A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

#3 A robot must protect its own existence, except where such protection would conflict with the First or Second Law.

If those laws are(or can be) applied, AI/Robots will never take over the earth. But, if it is true AI, nothing really can 100% block it from making its own intelligent decision to disregard the programmer... Ok.. I just argued myself out of my own argument... Talking to myself too much does that...

Ok, let us use the Butlerian Jihad from Frank Herbert's Dune... They had to wrestle power back from machines that had been empowered with AI. The result was simple, humans naver again relied on intelligent, or remotely close, machines to do their thinking for them. Humans formed castes, one ofwhich is the Mentat, or human computers. The Mentats assist their employer(lack of better term), and can think like machines, with near perfect problem solving and logic.

So if AI ever did come to that level, and we had to fight them, the end result would make our species better for it... or possibly nothing but some historicaldata on a harddrive somewhere...

But humans would have been intelligent(questionable) longer than machines would have, so a possible advantage could come of that point... Maybe not though, and we'll probably have commited mass suicide/homicide/genocide and eliminated ourselves by then anyway.

*So the main threat to ourselves will always be humanity.

And do you realize how off-topic this ended up...

Okay... I'm done... Well, not really, but ya know...

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*I am all for war, violence, death, doom, destruction, so i am just stating a fact.
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post Jun 28th 2003, 10:26 AM
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I only have one thing to say:

Who the f*ck came up with PINK biohazard suits?
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