A good standalone episode, i liked it. The food swapping scene was nicely slipped in, i also noticed the main character being the ashrak too

Review Time from yours truly
So feel free to completely ignore this post...

These were one of those 'filler' episodes as it doesn't really contribute to the main storyline - which apparently is what most people like for a variety of reasons (ie easy to pick up on, relax from the storyline), in any series.

Okay, first off, I do like that little twist at the end. That's it.
Im not too sure about how I feel with the storyline, although the idea of new memories every almost every day is an interesting one - reminds me of a movie I once saw years ago - Dark City? I had half expected the computer to be violent (as usually the case when AI goes evil) but it was strangely benevolent. Instead of trying to get the towns people to kill Jack and Tealc, they tried to get them to join. There was no barrier, or resistant from the computer, or any attempt to stop their tampering with the computer at the end.

The reason? The computer wasn't AI, it wasnt thinking for itself, it was just doing its job of maintaining a community even with the sacrifices - although I think it would reach a point where it wouldn't know what to do when the numbers dwindled too much for any more sacrifices AND to maintain a community.

There is one major flaw - who ever designed the dome and the link is a fooled to think it would never needed to be repaired. The residence knew about the link but didn't know about a problem or a way to fix it? Instead he (or she, sorry!) programed it to make compromises which could result in the death of the entire race on the planet. Either way, dying like that being none the wiser isnt a bad thing - although the original designer should have made more of an effort.

How does it effect Sg1? They made allies but probably have to help those people settle on the new planet (provide food and material?). They might have gained something from the Dome technology. An interesting episode but nothing amazing - there are better stories even if they are not as interesting.

There were two things missing from this episode:

1) Mulder and Scully, come on it was a nice mystery thing and required Spooky and his girlfriend. Maybe even the Lone Gunman so they could play with the difficult computer system.

2) Well, this society was in a dome, you could almost call it a Biodome, but there was no one to cause trouble. We needed Pauly Shore to cause trouble in that bubble?

OMG pauly shore in sg-1? now there is a truely scary thought. i think the asgard would blow us to tiny bits just to be rid of him....

Chrominium, yes i agree with you. as i said earlier this plot was played in the show. but its a good way of introducing new tech to the show.




i put pauly shore in the same catagory as barny they should be shot on site...

Hehe telatubes in that group

QUOTE (SSG Ret @ Jul 14 2003, 02:34 PM)

QUOTE (Dead on Arrival @ Jul 13 2003, 10:50 PM) Also I think the "link" technology is far more useful than the forcefield technology.  Remember how the replica SG-1 team were able to communicate instantly with eachother?  Imagine if Daniel and Sam could really put their heads together. As for the link technology, I'd rather be infested by a gou'uld. At least that would be straight forward control, instead of never knowing who's jacked into the system.

They wouldn't necessarily use the same exact link. The tech could be adapted to be less controlling. Using the same technology that nearly lulled a civilization to death would be like splicing an f-16 cockpit onto a death glider.

Since the Borg have been mentioned already, I'll point out that you could do worse than emulating the Borg in terms of military tactics.

I still think the link tech is the real gem from this planet.

Long post coming...you've been warned

First...I really liked the village, and I can't help but wonder if they built it or found a location to shoot at. If they built it I'm impressed, because the amount of brickwork in the walkways and detail in general was very nice. Actually it reminded me a bit of an old Playstation game called Medievil..one of the sets is a haunted village...but anyway..

This was a simple story well done, and there's nothing wrong with that. What intrigued me while watching it was the type of influence the computer exerted over these people. On one hand it would provide information at a moments notice, but the next it would revise that information to how it saw fit. It was also creepy that it would delete people from the collective memory...it was even creepier that people were walking outside the dome under this thing's influence. I mean, has anyone thought about what happened to those people once they stepped outside?

Something external controls your mind, your very actions and you walk out into a toxic wastland with death surrounding you...and you're helpless to obey your very survival instinct to turn around and go back into the dome. The computer probably makes them keep walking until they collapse dead or unconscious...and no one is going to help you because you've been deleted from their memory. That's scary.

Here's another question...if the computer's way of keeping the population controlled was to send them out of the dome, why would it discourage people from trying to leave? It reprogrammed the kid and his dad to want to stay instead of leaving w/SG1, didn't it? Also, while I agree that is seemed benevalent for it not to want to kill Jack and Teal'c while they were surrounded, it nevertheless wanted to link them up and convince them that if they took the links off they would die...another update that was probably not part of the original programming.

I do wonder what would've happened if the computer had been forced to take the "next step" of violence...but since the episode was about the control of memories they never had to explore that.

I thought that the last scene was very telling, a nice summation....the man can't remember his wife because technology took it from him, so he goes the "low-tech" way by having Carter tell him about her. Nice tag scene I thought.

QUOTE (Stargate SG-1 Bott @ Jul 12 2003, 08:02 PM)

Looking forward to Life Boat!  . Respect to all the British Stargate Fans We Rule

absolutly- respect greatness when you see it!!!!!!

This post has been edited by ramuund: Jul 18th 2003, 1:21 PM

A technologically advanced society destroys their environment and the survivors seek refuge in a dome where their reality is controlled by a computer. Why does this sound so familiar?

Since they have so much in common perhaps the Revisioned people were relocated to the Gamekeeper's planet.

This episode had some nice touches. When Daniel followed Evalla down a dead end as she left the dome, he reached a door before the edge of the dome. But when Jack and Teal'c head down the same way they meet the edge of the dome before the door. That scene and the malp disappearing made any explanation of the dome shrinking unnecessary since we could see it.

As nice as this episode was, I was a bit disappointed that it was just a variation on a past episode.

hehe the place actually reminded me a of a outdoor mall cause of the houses that were placed everywhere that are were made in a similar fashion... kinda funny how the people there were basically fish in a shrinking pond.

I can't imagine what it's going to do to the survivors minds when they realize that they can't trust ANY of their memories from when they were linked.

When it hits them that they could have lost entire families that they don't know about...after all, they don't even know if the family they have left are any real relations.

For instance, that boy and his father...if both the boy's parents were 'edited' and the computer just altered their memories to believe that they were related. Which brings a question to mind, what did their memories say happened to the boy's mother?

It was a nice episode, but I am sad to say - the concept of the evil "link" isn't new. This episode remindes me of an Outer Limits episode about the "stream" which was more or less the same thing.

THE OUTER LIMITS - STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS

QUOTE (mithwriter @ Jul 18 2003, 06:05 PM)

Here's another question...if the computer's way of keeping the population controlled was to send them out of the dome, why would it discourage people from trying to leave? It reprogrammed the kid and his dad to want to stay instead of leaving w/SG1, didn't it?

Maybe I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that it wasn't making people leave the dome, but was just adapting the population's memories as the dome lost more and more power and shrunk, stranding people on the outside. The computer may have seem evil, but it was just following it's programming and trying to keep the people as happy as they could in light of a fatal situation.

QUOTE (joules314 @ Jul 28 2003, 04:59 AM)

It was a nice episode, but I am sad to say - the concept of the evil "link" isn't new. This episode remindes me of an Outer Limits episode about the "stream" which was more or less the same thing.

Yes, but then again this could be said of most real episodes in a scifi show... so much has been done before that it's practically impossible to think up these standalone episodes and make them original. Sure they can just have episodes with Anubis and other things unique to Stargate, but this would make the show much less diverse. I think these types of standalone episodes are a great way of breaking from a continuing storyline which requires the viewers to see every episode to understand... even if they are somewhat similar to stories in other shows.

We actually saw one person leave the dome. The counsilwoman who woke up and 'packed', actually walked through the dome wall. Daniel was following that other female and the only place she could have gone was through the dome. The computer was actually sending them out. I am curious as to what criteria it was using to decide who to send, though.

I didn't really think much of this ep. Nice enough but has holes and is pretty dull in my books. Never thought I'd say that!

I wondered about this, too. I also wonder what effect Sg1's being there had on the computer's calculations for survival. Were they ignored because they brought their own supplies or because they weren't connected to the link? Or was the computer compensating for their being there by sending out the two we saw exit the dome? Maybe that compensation wouldn't have occured as quickly had Sg1 not been there. Not that they could have known that, but I was surprised Carter didn't wonder aloud about it. And what would have happened had Daniel actually tried on the link? Would he have become part of the link or would it have thrown the computer off? I love the idea of being able to download info instantly like that! You could just see Daniel seething at the bit to try it and be able to learn all about the culture instantly.

Mith: I agree with your comment about the closing scene -- I liked that, too. When tech fails you, go back to the old-fashioned way: talking.

Well I actually really liked the concept in this episode. It was a real solid sci fi idea that raises loads of moral questions. However I think the presentation here lacked something. Can't really put my finger on it except to say that it all felt very low key. There was no sense of urgency or danger...just seemed a little bland
What might have made a more exciting ending would have been Carter hacking in to the computer to reprogram it and whasisname (aliens names all blend into one for me after a while) finding them and holding them hostage. Meanwhile the townsfolk get ready to lynch O'Neill and Teal'c so Daniel has to talk whasisname into letting them reprogram the link to save them being chucked out the dome...

...what I'm trying to say is it lacked danger and excitement and a climax. Also lacked the classic O'Neill sarcasm. Not that I mind all that because it does get a little too much in some episodes.

Also didn't gel much with the kid. Bit unecessary IMO. they seem to meet and bond with a cute kid every third planet they visit. Frankly it's getting a little boring. Why don't they just breed and have some of their own if they like them that much.

Not a bad episode but not one I'd fall over myself to see again.

This post has been edited by Majikthize: Oct 27th 2003, 4:24 PM

I think i agree with most people when i say that this was a good episode.

I liked the interaction between Jack and that kid, although the kid did seem to irritate me somewhat. I also liked the kind of twist at the end, i never expected the Link to be acting as it was for that particular purpose, i guess i just assumed it was acting as it was for something more sinister.

I agree with Majikthize that this ep did seem to lack a sense of danger and excitement. I thought the ending was ok, but when the whole town was after Jack and Teal'c i thought...."ah ha, now were gunna get some action".....but they just offered them the thingies to link them to the Link, and it seemed a bit of an anti-climax to me.

One thing i didnt understand was why the people didnt have any kind of protective suits of their own as they were obviously a pretty advanced race. The guy that Sam was working with expressed a desire to know what the world was like outside the dome, and i dont think he would have been the only one to wonder. I guess the Link would be the reason for this, although i cant really see why the Link would try and stop them from developing something to protect them from the outside atmosphere, because being able to explore the world outside of the dome could greatly benifit the people of that planet. They would have been able to have access to the Stargate, and mabye could have even found another planet to inhabit, which would save many lives.

My Dad came up with a thought at the beginning that the people were like the Aschen. Of course he didnt put it like that he said they like erm.... erm.... people who harvest!

But anyway i did think that the computer would be more evil not so oh i was only doing what they told me to but it was a twist!!

It also lacked humor for me but one bit was at the dinner table whent he boy was askin O'Neill about the planets " Teal'c is it too late to pitch a tent??" 7

So i describe this as average yet entretaning