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| scifi2003 |
Jul 27th 2003, 7:55 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: June 27th 2003 From: Hamburg, Germany Member No.: 1,928 |
Great Episode.
Perhaps it is the greatest episode that stargate ever had. It its related to the current political situation, it transmits a moral message to the people and it had realy great acting. This coul'd have been one of the best Star Trek Episodes, but it did work for Stargate aswell. stargate normaly is more about action so it was realy great to see an inteligent story line made up. Than I liked that peole from other planets did actualy not speak english this time, one of the advantages of having daniel on board. So, maybe ther was no action, and much talking scenes, but that is what a good story is all about. |
| SSG Ret |
Jul 27th 2003, 8:18 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: June 27th 2003 From: Austin, TX, USA Member No.: 1,926 Gender: Female |
It took a lot of guts for Ironshirt to walk down alone into the camp. Even if the Unas had the soldiers outnumbered twenty to one, he had to have known they could kill him.
I liked the look on Daniel's face when the colonel said, "O'Neill was right about you. You are a real pain in the ass...but well worth it." That was a picture. |
| Krazee4stargate |
Jul 27th 2003, 10:59 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: July 6th 2003 From: Alabama Member No.: 1,991 Gender: Female |
Hey RookiesRevenge! Here's a few aka names I came up with for the show. How about the Michael Shanks Show or SG-1 with Michael Shanks? Here's one, The Adventures of Daniel Jackson. Or maybe Daniel Jackson and company. Wait! Wait! I got it. Daniel Jackson, SGC. |
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| OdinisThor'sDad |
Jul 28th 2003, 8:42 AM
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ASSgards are pussies! Group: Moderators Posts: 7,208 Joined: January 29th 2003 From: Asan, South Korea (that's the good one) Member No.: 490 Gender: Male |
I think this one is my favorite of the season so far. It nice to see Chaka all dressed up. I heard next time Daniel takes him to a black tie affair and has to get him into a Tuxedo.
Definately a Daniel episode. Nice to see the Americans did not learn from the Indians. They were going to screw another race out of their lands cause that's what we need. |
| SSG Ret |
Jul 28th 2003, 9:43 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: June 27th 2003 From: Austin, TX, USA Member No.: 1,926 Gender: Female |
I personaly like the fact that RDA was in it except minimally. The constant smartass comments have looong since gotten boring. I like the subtler humor involved with Daniels antic. "It will take as long as it takes!"
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| NoKreeForMe |
Jul 28th 2003, 11:52 AM
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The Under 2,000 Club Group: Moderators Posts: 457 Joined: June 22nd 2003 From: Texas, USA Member No.: 1,880 Gender: Female |
Enemy Mine was really good. I loved the 'Daniel go to your happy place' scene.
BTW, has anyone seen the movie Enemy Mine? The resemblance is close to Unas. Butt-ugly |
| SG1nut |
Jul 28th 2003, 4:26 PM
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Second Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 582 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: London, England Member No.: 754 Gender: Female |
Hey, its the Daniel Jackson happy hour!!! That man sure knows how to negotiate and prevent war...
Shame that there doesn't seem to be a man like Daniel Jackson in GW Bush's present staff. They ALL seem to think like that ass of a colonel- "fire guns, sort stuff out later"! But getting back to the ep- I jus knew that O'Neill was gonna get injured somehow so that he wouldn't have to stay in the next half hour of the episode! I was surprised to see AT with a tiny, tiny role- but generally, even though I adore those characters- it was great to see "yet another" Daniel Jackson episode!! The Unas are soooh cool! I'm real pleased they brought them back. And I actually really appreciated the language spoken more- I understood some words as Daniel kept translating to himself/ for the audience! But its like, "Well, you guys moaned sooh much about DJ disappearing for the last season, so we'll just put him in front of the camera for the majority of the next season and see how that fares..." But seriously, if I see another ep with no Sam, and no Jack- I think I'll go insane! Where have all the "team" episodes gone to? (However, I am hopeful that the writers will restore my faith in them as the season progress!) |
| mithwriter |
Jul 28th 2003, 5:48 PM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: February 26th 2003 Member No.: 885 Gender: Female |
Ok..to those of you who are complaining about RDA not being in these episodes lately...we all knew this was going to happen, but it's something that is necessary so he can use the days he's on set to work on other, more action packed eps as well.
I did think it was funny when he was complaining to the nurse to "go away" and acting in pain...but then acts like he's fine when Carter shows up...then goes back to being in pain when she leaves. This episode was about diplomacy, so there was really not a lot use for Carter. At least they recognized that immediately and let her go work on her off camera "science project". I would rather have characters who aren't really needed for a story not be there, as opposed to having them just hang around and doing practically nothing for an entire ep. I mean, look what happened to Teal'c...what did HE get to do? In fact, I think what would've made this even more interesting would've been the following scenario: Jack gets hurt..stays behind Carter works on project, stays behind. Teal'c get hurt...stays behind Daniel goes back to planet with Chaka to negotiate, then a group of Unas attack and force the SGC people away from the gate and the mine...Now Daniel and Chaka have to negotiate a peace with Iron Shirt before Hammond decides to send reinforcements through and all out fight breaks out. Meanwhile, the other Colonel is arguing w/Daniel about who's in charge and threatens to attempt to re-take the gate against a bunch of very angry Unas....and Daniel's got no one to back him up except Chaka. What surprised me is that you would think that Hammond would've learned his lesson after the ep "Spirits", in which they tried to mine naquada against the wishes of an Indian tribe..and then has their "guardian spirits" come through the gate and start making SGC people disappear until Daniel admits they were wrong. Talk about short memories... For me the best part was when Iron Shirt mentioned something about "the other tribes", and suddenly the balance tipped from the SGC people being the agressors to being outnumbered. I think the phrase "Oh...sh*t" could sum it up nicely. I really enjoyed seeing Daniel in his "element" more than what he did in "Lifeboat". I also like the little reminder of how well O'Neill knows Daniel when the younger man started fuming about the relics being moved..."Daniel...go to your happy place." |
| IamNobody |
Jul 29th 2003, 12:35 AM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: May 15th 2003 From: Austria Member No.: 1,598 |
Great episode! It turned atound 180? suddenly! From one man getting lost, to chasing the Unas after DJ seing a joch
Just one thing intrigues me: How would you describe a space ship to Iron-Shirt? |
| StormSG1 |
Jul 29th 2003, 6:48 AM
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Airman Basic ![]() Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: July 20th 2003 From: Tauri Homeworld Member No.: 2,087 |
I LOVED this episode., for a bunch of reasons. One, even tho I miss the full team, I love the focus on Daniel from time to time. I love the Unas story line, partially because they are aliens who finally don't look just like humans so it brings some diversity to the show. I'm a language buff, so I loved all the scenes where DJ is chatting with IronShirt.
I also noticed the "french" component, although they used Quelle for several words, including How and Why. My favorite scene? When DJ explains that they will give food for naquada. He takes a bite of the "granola bar", gives a mmm mmm good face, and then explains that they want to trade. I do miss the others, but this is definitely my fave Season 7 so far. I posted something a day ago tho about the apparent lack of respect I think DJ gets in Season 7 after having been mourned and missed for a whole year. The "Daniel you're a pain in the ***" and "Don't be so....you know...[you]" thing kind of irks me. The guy has saved the world and died half a dozen times, can't he get some serious respect? |
| Firefly |
Jul 29th 2003, 8:44 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 746 Joined: April 6th 2003 From: Maine Member No.: 1,304 Gender: Female |
I want my father to see this episode because he's always complaining about how in Sci-Fi, the aliens always speak English. I'd be like "Look! They aren't speaking English!"
I thought it was an okay episode...I didn't think they'd get things resolved so easily. And I wish we'd see more of the team, and not just Daniel. OH well...it did have a feel of the old Stargate episodes though. |
| Souske Sagara |
Jul 29th 2003, 10:59 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: June 16th 2003 Member No.: 1,838 |
As much good feedback there is on this episode. According to Gateworld this episode has had the LOWEST ratings so far with 1.17. This isnt good especially with MGM's withdrawal from the negotiating table to buy Sci-Fi Channel. Stick with it guys, dont let them pull the plug.
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| Aesir |
Jul 30th 2003, 4:21 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 4,404 Joined: June 14th 2003 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 1,811 Gender: Male |
Hmmm this seems very odd and doesn't seem good at all. I personally thought the episode was very good, quite well thought out and very informative about the Unas' culture which we didn't know that much about beforehand Maybe there was some other external factor as to why the ratings were so low and the next episode's ratings will pick up again? When you think about it, an episode's ratings are largely dependent on external factors and often if people don't watch it, it may be because the previous episode wasn't that great (they don't know if it's going to be good until they watch it). Therefore the reduced ratings for this episode may actually indicate that not that many people liked 'Lifeboat'. |
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| Cymro |
Jul 30th 2003, 4:35 AM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: May 20th 2003 From: Wales, UK Member No.: 1,624 Gender: Not Telling |
I liked this episode, and I think it's the first one where not having Jack was acctually pivotal to the effectiveness of it. I mean, there would have been no point in having Daniel and Edwards argue at all, if Jack was just going to run interferance all the f*cking time. Though, Edward's twat-iness was kinda forced and stereotypical. IMO, the best SG1 episodes are the ones that don't focus too much on action. Action should always take backseat to the storyline and characters, and if you're looking for a Sci-Fi show with lots of no-brainer action, you're better off watching Andromeda, Mutant X or Voyager re-runs.
Does anyone know of an SG1 BBS where the majority of people acctually have fully working brains? I haven't had time to look. |
| Joans Quin |
Jul 30th 2003, 4:52 AM
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Technical Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: December 25th 2002 From: Victoria British Colombia canada Member No.: 167 |
percicly.. this epsoide had a lot of good points to it.. and the fact that we needed the naquada to build X-303's it was I thought a epsoide which has potentle to be covered again, maby the goulld's attack in season eight or something like that. one kickass show, for all u people who miss the epsoide or epsoides go d-load them from www.stargates.tk also if you want more spoilers on future sg1 epsoides go to www.gateworld.net
later all SG1 is made in Vancover British Colombia |
| Bonzai |
Jul 31st 2003, 10:35 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 155 Joined: December 4th 2002 From: canada Member No.: 49 Gender: Male |
not a bad Eps but we dont see Sg-1 in action
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| SSG Ret |
Jul 31st 2003, 1:47 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: June 27th 2003 From: Austin, TX, USA Member No.: 1,926 Gender: Female |
I'm sure the Unas have similar reservations concerning our appearence.
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| soljel |
Jul 31st 2003, 4:40 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 17 Joined: January 24th 2003 Member No.: 447 |
Yes! I've seen that movie, with Louis Gosset Jr. and Dennis Quaid. It was a pretty good movie and it's kinda weird they're so similar similar. |
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| Emperor Chrostas the Cruel |
Aug 1st 2003, 2:51 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: July 30th 2003 From: Es MWg AQ Sol3 USA CA Simi Valley Member No.: 2,193 |
Even if you didn't like this episode, you should watch them all anyway.
The medium of television has qualities that shape what you see. From the formula, to the actors, all obey rules of hollywood and TV. Examples. The formula that acvtion shows MUST use, is based on commercials. Teaser, credits. Setup, start to build tension, hook, before commercial. Plot develoupment, tension builder, hook. Comm. Repeat, with life threataning hook. Comm. At maximum tension point, resolution, release of tension, and resolution just prior to end, commercial. This formula was in place in the 50s, and hasn't changed since. Budget. Everyone is looking forward to the "Space race" episode, but that one will cost more than 5 "Enemy mine" type of episodes. The high dollar episodes just can't be sustained with the budget they are on. Enemy mine, and Lifeboat were cheapies, to save their pennies for saturday night dance, so to speak. Be greatful the didn't use the ULTIMATE cheapie, the dreaded "FLASHBACK" episode, hated by all but the accountants. REAL world elements creep into fantasy world show. The special effect budget will form a wave, from show to show, rising and falling, like the tide. You MUST support the WHOLE show, or you will get NO show. This is a package deal. You must "suffer" through the "merely" brilliant acting, and writing, to get to those all important explosions and space battles. (Cough*spoilled*cough) Do you nay sayers understand just how rare and special it is to have ANY TV show that isn't crap, pandering to the lowest commen denominator, in a race to the bottom, with fighting and sex the only real draw to the show? (Baywatch) Good science fiction, (READ my sig) ALMOST doesn't exsist in mass media. |
| Virus0486 |
Aug 1st 2003, 9:12 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: February 16th 2003 From: Miami, Florida U.S.A!!! Member No.: 695 Gender: Male |
Wonderful episode....i hope to hear some info on what happens to the naquada in the future.
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| Sokar |
Aug 6th 2003, 5:09 PM
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First Lieutenant Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: August 6th 2003 From: Connecticut, U.S.A. Member No.: 2,245 Gender: Male |
I liked this episode, because it is always good to dere the Unas, they are so cool, but I have a couple problems. one, Chaka looked very different from when we first meet him in Season 4's "THe First Ones", and the fact that they killed the UNas so easily by shooting them a couple of times.
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| MrBooleano |
Aug 6th 2003, 9:50 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,318 Joined: December 8th 2002 From: Lancashire, Uk Member No.: 84 Gender: Male |
Will wonders never cease
I actually liked this episode, i usually think unas episodes are shite, but this one surprised me. I liked it when Chaka came into the SGC, and how Daniel had worked with him,m how he was civil and didnt be violent at all. The whole episode was great, still not seeing alot of Jack tho eh |
| SSG Ret |
Aug 7th 2003, 5:13 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: June 27th 2003 From: Austin, TX, USA Member No.: 1,926 Gender: Female |
I think they are slowing edging him off the show. He might not even be there, except maybe for cameo roles, for season 8.
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| French Carter |
Aug 12th 2003, 9:38 AM
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Senior Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 362 Joined: July 29th 2003 From: Paris Member No.: 2,179 Gender: Female |
I have seen just one time this episode, so I don't know well this one but I don't understand one thing.
On Gateworld.net, we can see these following pictures, but I have not seen that during this episode. Maybe it is because I do not pay enough attention, but I would like to check with you. This post has been edited by French Carter: Aug 12th 2003, 9:45 AM Attached image(s)
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