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post Nov 29th 2006, 8:07 PM
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Season 3, Episode 11 - The Return (Part Two)
Air date: March 2007

The Atlantis team must rescue General O'Neill and Richard Woolsey when they are taken captive by the Asurans.

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Man what a great episode!! But first thanks Canada!! canada.gif We couldn't have seen this without you!!!

Now loved the episode. I was a little surprised at them blowing up the gateroom, but the SFX of the jumper breaking through the glass was awesome!! Speaking of SFX of the Jumper, the chase through the city was awesome! Much better than the chase back in Brotherhood. If you noticed you could see through the windows of buildings with lights on. Very cool, makes it feel much more like a city. And that line "Then I'll try to hit the buildings we like the least!" haha I love it.

The underwater Jumper Bay was a neat idea. Makes you woder though if that was added on after the ancients came to Pegasus since their would be no need for it if they were on the ground. Or maybe it was intended as an alternate to the other bay when flying so jumpers wouldn't have to fly to the other side. Also makes you wonder if their are other jumper bays...hmmmm maybe but I doubt it. Anyway I loved the entire underwater sequence, esspecially with a RDA cameo! biggrin.gif So I guess though that the flooded areas of the city were the sections that flooded during the super hurricane back in season one. AH I'm probably overthinking it.

Now brief moment, when they mentioned the Tria crew I started to wonder, what happened to the Tria? Did we just beam the crew to the Deadalus and left the Tria in the Void between our galaxies, did we tow it back, or the ancients somehow bring it back to Atlantis. If so did the Replicators destroy it, take it back to their homeworld, or something else to it. The Replicators never mentioned it, in fact they didn't even acknowlege the Lanteans as Tria's crew. Which mean we may have left it out in the Void, if so we should use it! I mean come on we've lost enough ships, we could use an ancient warship which it's only damage is the hyperdrive. We could easily fix that and the other systems should work, which means unlike the Orion working sheilds and weapons at the same time! I think the writers need to explore that option.

Let's see we've had 2 goa'uld ships. One crashed killing Apophis and thousands of Replicators, another blew up under the Pacific ocean. We've had several gliders one in which is drifting towards the Kuiper belt as we speak, several other unaccouted for. A cargo ship we may still have but no confirmation probably gone since it disappeard after season 5, another cargo ship got sucked up by a black hole. We had an Al'kesh which we stripped so Prometheus could have a hyperdrive, Baal crashed one more recently but it may never fly again. An Orii ship but the Orici stole it back (curses). The Aurora, although damaged majorily it was still a shame to have it blow up, then the Orion which also blew up thanks to the Wraith (I'm seeing a patter here), We have many PJs but they keep crashing...a lot! Then we had a hive ship but it also blew up! (I don't like were this is going), There's the Wrait cruise ship on the other planet in the Lantean star system but we seem to be leaving it alone. A Wraith Dart from season two that we seemed to have forgotten (probably blew up as well). The Prometheus blew up, as well as the Korlev. You know someone needs to teach these people how to drive. We haven't lost the Odyssey or the Deadalus yet but they do get serious damage in many episodes.
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So it would be really nice if we can keep the Tria!

Now back to the episode, I'm guessing that since the city was about to fly that the Replicators brought some ZPMs meaning we have 3 ZPMs nice, too bad Bekket destroyed the Stardrive though. I would love to have a flying city, would solve a lot of problems. BUt I bet Earth will take one for itself so that the Antartic outpost can protect our planet. Hopefully we don't fully drain any of the ZPMs as quickliy as we did with previous ones we got our hands on.

Now the using the shield as a giant ARG was a great idea. I was thinking that they should have done something similar to that before the episode. Though makes me sad I was able to predict how they would retake the city. I hate being able to do that. Well great episode in all can't wait for the completion of the midway space station. It may come useful in the future so I'm intrigued by it still.

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Arcady   311 - The Return (Part Two)   Nov 29th 2006, 8:07 PM
Raxor   Let me be the first to say i enjoyed this episode,...   Nov 30th 2006, 3:26 AM
Rogue Ashrak   What can I say? GREAT Episode. RDA was at his abso...   Nov 30th 2006, 4:29 AM
fan_83   teh ancients only got one but the replicators have...   Nov 30th 2006, 8:05 AM
Revan   Superb episode. RDA did a great job in this episod...   Nov 30th 2006, 2:01 PM
magnavox   This would have to be one of the best Atlantis epi...   Nov 30th 2006, 4:11 PM
Revan   I assume the Replicators bought their own, they c...   Nov 30th 2006, 4:42 PM
hobo_joe20   SGA 312 spoiler: [spoiler] At the beginning of th...   Nov 30th 2006, 11:05 PM
Rogue Ashrak   Only "down"side to this ep for me was ...   Dec 1st 2006, 2:42 AM
TheCordler   well, i was thinking that with the star drive dest...   Dec 1st 2006, 2:48 AM
Revan   Actually, it's [spoiler]1 for Antartica, 1 fo...   Dec 1st 2006, 3:10 AM
bigjohn_1972   Good question, where is that other Ancient ship. ...   Dec 2nd 2006, 1:11 PM
Pitry   Hooray! Excellent episode. I need to stop beig...   Dec 2nd 2006, 4:44 PM
replicant   I thought this ep was awesome. Iloved the flying t...   Dec 4th 2006, 7:09 AM
SG-15   Man what a great episode!! But first thank...   Dec 4th 2006, 1:29 PM
bigjohn_1972   Man what a great episode!! But first than...   Dec 5th 2006, 8:35 PM
Revan   I thought this ep was awesome. Iloved the flying ...   Dec 5th 2006, 5:12 PM
KillerMarv   This was indeed an ingeniously made episode IMO. T...   Dec 7th 2006, 1:11 PM
JTMAG1   I thought this ep was great. Jack was great, The ...   Dec 17th 2006, 5:21 PM
baggers1982   I thought this ep was great. Jack was great, The...   Dec 17th 2006, 6:38 PM
StarFighter   I feel that The Return Part 1 was very rushed, ver...   Dec 19th 2006, 8:02 AM
magnavox   i just thought RDA looked like he was getting on ...   Dec 19th 2006, 4:54 PM
Revan   As for the underwater scenes, I read an article o...   Dec 19th 2006, 5:28 PM
JTMAG1   RDA did a damn fine job with his underwater work ...   Dec 19th 2006, 9:51 PM
baggers1982   Having trained as a life guard, i can honestly say...   Dec 20th 2006, 10:30 AM
magnavox   so jack o'neil could be anywhere between 50 a...   Dec 23rd 2006, 12:42 AM
dr lee   Top-notch return (no pun intended) for the season....   Dec 26th 2006, 10:34 PM
Lagger   asurans dont act, they're robots, so thats why...   Jan 10th 2007, 6:25 AM
Joonas   Wasn't it strange that the puddle jumper could...   Jan 10th 2007, 9:27 AM
baggers1982   Wasn't it strange that the puddle jumper coul...   Jan 10th 2007, 9:41 AM
Joonas   From what i can remember, the drone only clipped ...   Jan 10th 2007, 3:12 PM
Dafmeister   And still they fired drones into the water to shoo...   Jan 10th 2007, 4:10 PM
JC1   While I did enjoy the episode, I felt some things ...   Jan 10th 2007, 4:35 PM
JTMAG1   I wasn't overly impressed with the Pegasus Re...   Jan 11th 2007, 12:36 AM
JC1   It's called rank. O'Neill outranks Land...   Jan 11th 2007, 10:02 AM
Pegasus Angel   And, for Shepard, to continually disobey orders a...   Jan 11th 2007, 3:03 PM
Revan   The drones would have lost speed and momentum as ...   Jan 10th 2007, 11:14 PM
KillerMarv   Well, the asurans were roughly 1100 years old, I ...   Jan 11th 2007, 1:26 AM
JTMAG1   How can the Asurans be only 1100 years old, when ...   Jan 11th 2007, 1:49 AM
Otaku_Smeghead   Okay Im confued I thought the return was shown on ...   Jan 11th 2007, 2:40 AM
dr lee   It was aired in Canada a few weeks ago and i can...   Jan 11th 2007, 4:46 AM
glom   Yes, it's the return of the Cynic's Copyca...   Jan 11th 2007, 2:24 PM
unseen_shadow   First to explain the drones: They drones were bei...   Jan 14th 2007, 3:18 PM
Dafmeister   Nitpick: why didn't one of the geniuses on ea...   Jan 14th 2007, 3:51 PM
KillerMarv   I don't know... The Asgard and the Ancients ha...   Jan 14th 2007, 4:25 PM
JTMAG1   If the main character got fired for disobeying ord...   Jan 14th 2007, 5:12 PM
JC1   If the main character got fired for disobeying or...   Jan 14th 2007, 7:32 PM
JTMAG1   The main character doesn't have to be fired f...   Jan 14th 2007, 11:17 PM
JC1   Jack was supposed to nuke the Abydos gate. He did...   Jan 15th 2007, 11:07 AM
Revan   That's right, we know Sheppard has been disobe...   Jan 14th 2007, 7:49 PM
unseen_shadow   Jack also retired right after, and they never foun...   Jan 15th 2007, 12:26 PM
JTMAG1   OK, you are rationalizing what Jack did, because h...   Jan 15th 2007, 12:45 PM
unseen_shadow   OK, you are rationalizing what Jack did, because ...   Jan 15th 2007, 12:47 PM
JTMAG1   I'm just pointing out that they never had a c...   Jan 15th 2007, 12:54 PM
JC1   OK, you are rationalizing what Jack did, because ...   Jan 15th 2007, 1:35 PM
Lagger   yeah they could demote him, give it to caldwell, a...   Jan 15th 2007, 7:44 PM
Revan   yeah they could demote him, give it to caldwell, ...   Jan 15th 2007, 8:41 PM
unseen_shadow   Why would they do that? Everybod ywould think it...   Jan 15th 2007, 9:10 PM
JTMAG1   I don't understand why you want him to be puni...   Jan 16th 2007, 12:04 AM
JC1   I don't understand why you want him to be pun...   Jan 16th 2007, 8:34 AM
Dafmeister   There's also Sheppard's background to cons...   Jan 16th 2007, 8:42 AM
Revan   There's also Sheppard's background to con...   Jan 16th 2007, 3:43 PM
Dafmeister   It was in 'Rising' part 1: O'Neill: Yo...   Jan 16th 2007, 5:41 PM
JC1   It was in 'Rising' part 1: [b]O'Neill...   Jan 16th 2007, 5:45 PM
Revan   Weir actually said "I know about the whole s...   Jan 16th 2007, 6:08 PM
Dafmeister   I heard black market and both Neoseeker and Gateno...   Jan 16th 2007, 6:16 PM
JC1   I heard black market and both Neoseeker and Gaten...   Jan 16th 2007, 6:44 PM
Revan   I heard black market and both Neoseeker and Gaten...   Jan 16th 2007, 6:48 PM
Jade   What made this espisode good, Jack, Jack and a lit...   Jan 23rd 2007, 6:24 AM
kordone   I was just wondering if the Asurans were able to r...   Jan 28th 2007, 11:07 PM
JTMAG1   I was just wondering if the Asurans were able to ...   Jan 29th 2007, 12:22 AM
kordone   I understand that, but you would think they they w...   Jan 29th 2007, 12:29 AM
Revan   I understand that, but you would think they they ...   Jan 29th 2007, 12:01 PM
Gotanks   Yeah, they were only looking for the C4 and probab...   Jan 29th 2007, 12:09 PM
Space_butterfly   Ah, how I've missed Jack :D All in all I thou...   Apr 13th 2007, 10:08 PM
soma_momma   Jack looked like he was McGyver in the underwater ...   Apr 14th 2007, 12:00 AM
JTMAG1   Jack looked like he was McGyver in the underwater...   Apr 14th 2007, 12:12 AM
IndyJan   Oh, be still my heart, my Jack is back! Final...   Apr 14th 2007, 12:51 AM
Kate   Good ep. Loved Jack's reaction to Beckett...   Apr 14th 2007, 1:54 AM
Sylver   If this sets the tone for the rest of the season, ...   Apr 14th 2007, 6:19 AM
Dafmeister   I don't understand how the replicators' re...   Apr 14th 2007, 6:39 AM
Sylver   They haven't explained it yet. People have sp...   Apr 14th 2007, 8:56 AM
JTMAG1   Am just now reading through all the other posts. ...   Apr 14th 2007, 10:52 AM
Sylver   Yeah, why would you want someone brave, cunning, ...   Apr 14th 2007, 1:08 PM
JC1   Am just now reading through all the other posts....   Apr 14th 2007, 12:18 PM
JTMAG1   I never said he wasn't, and I agree that he d...   Apr 14th 2007, 4:55 PM
Dafmeister   In 'Intruder' he wasn't going to be pr...   Apr 14th 2007, 5:33 PM
soma_momma   I don't understand how the replicators' r...   Apr 14th 2007, 7:28 PM
ancient01   Jack made this episode work. It made me realize h...   Apr 15th 2007, 9:18 AM
startreksuite   Great episode, loved the O'Neill/Wolsey team. ...   Apr 19th 2007, 8:37 PM
thefirstone   I just watched this episode againg and I think tha...   Apr 20th 2007, 9:51 AM
Dafmeister   I just watched this episode againg and I think tha...   Apr 20th 2007, 10:20 AM
IndyJan   A lot of people have noticed the same thing. To m...   Apr 21st 2007, 9:23 PM
cosmos   I am so glad to how this episode played out and RD...   Jun 13th 2007, 5:00 AM

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