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| Bradef |
 Dec 24th 2004, 8:16 AM
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Nah, Krystian SG1 is right, how did McKay know about it. McKay even got the Ancient gene in 1x03 and still didnt know about the roof until a few episodes later. I dont even think they knew the roof opened coz they were kinda supprised when it did... I dont really understand what all that tinkering around in the PJ does, if they want to open the roof, they just have to think: "Open the roof" and it opens. Why do they need the command codes or whatever from the PJ circuits in the back... |
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| ruguy21 |
Jan 4th 2005, 1:48 AM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: January 4th 2005 Member No.: 7,454 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Muskusrat @ Dec 7th 2004, 10:43 AM) Hehe yea and they are not very clever aswell. I mean come on you are going back to your homeplanet after being away for miljons of years and what do they bring with them? Some bags, I mean come on take a few puttlejumpers and some power supply units to rebuild your civilation. BUT it is interesting to see that alot of ancients still made it back to earth so it is likely / possible they could still live on earth (that might be a nice twist  ). They could find an ancient on earth frozen seeing how that technology is prevolent. Maybe put here to protect us but something went wrong. ???  |
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| ftt |
Jan 5th 2005, 1:35 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: January 7th 2004 From: V?ster?s, Sweden Member No.: 3,188 Gender: Male |
this was an average episode if you ask me about it
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| ted_simple |
Jan 5th 2005, 4:15 PM
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SIR Ted Simple  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,115 Joined: January 8th 2004 From: Take an educated guess Member No.: 3,194 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Felger @ Dec 8th 2004, 10:11 PM) The running theme of ?live in the moment? was of particular interest as I think it will be a factor of Weirs personality from now on and was of particular relevance to the plot of the episode as everything was in the moment, the departure of the ship, the collapse of the shield, the deaths, the rapid ancient actions. It was all seen in the moment? perhaps I am going too far but that was my personal reaction. I've watched the episode recently and thought of you. I suspected that you would have enjoyed it very much. The theme you mentioned was rather prominent in this episode. I also liked another theme: The old lady who came to peace with herself, who looked at her life from a distance and gave advice to her younger self. The passing of time, the purpose of one's life (the other Rodney, Sheppard and Weir gave theirs up to secure the life of others), the generational change... very deep indeed, for a tv series, almost literature. QUOTE I'm glad people agree with me now, I've been saying that the very attractive hologram would be the empathic council member since I saw Rising? I'm glad I was proved right, I?ll accept any excuse to see her more! I seem to have a thing for far superior intellects.  She was intriguing, wasn't she. Here we are, grasping for every straw and every impression that this woman gives us..... while actually she is just an actress playing a minor role that she has probably been practising for only a few days.  |
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| nunu |
Jan 8th 2005, 5:59 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: January 3rd 2005 Member No.: 7,452 Gender: Not Telling |
QUOTE(Stargate SG-1 Bott @ Dec 8th 2004, 7:39 PM) Few pics  I enjoyed the episode alot, Alot of my questions were answered such as how much of a fight did the atlantians put up? As we heard they used their best ships available but were helpless from the sheer number of Wraith. Think of Zulus and British Its always nice to see live ancients, form some of the comments about how dissapointed they are after seeing them, How can you judge a civilization on 3 people?. Non interfearance is a good idea. They obviously put up the best fight they could and lost. So Im thinking now, the Ancients went to the pegasus galaxy seeded life lived happily for a while. Came under attack by the wraith, after a long period of fighting went to the peace table although this led to a huge battle in which the ancients eventually lost. On a side note of that wouldnt it be great to see that battle? Make the scene from 'Lost City' look pityful. The ancients then went back to earth and lived happily again for a while until they started dying from the illness, they expanded their research on ascention as we saw they were doing this while on atlantis. My Two cents. Chris Thanks for posting the pic of the ancient woman. I am a big fan. More ancients!!! |
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| BrandonTheGreat |
Jan 13th 2005, 9:57 PM
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Ancients, it was great to see an alternate reality in this series. Thank god for the fail safe in the second reality.
Now how many of those places actually have ZPM's... A great episode |
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| Christy |
Jan 17th 2005, 10:30 PM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
i like the anicent woman...i think that maybe there should be an episode a season where...
we see the anicents in the past doing something...like experiments...like the atlantians reading their notes and the viewers seeing the ancients doing them. I think that this was a good episode....not one of the best but written well. Season 1 of Atlantis seems to be going well and in my opinion is better than the first season of Stargate SG-1 |
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| saulos |
Jan 19th 2005, 6:27 PM
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Civilian Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: January 19th 2005 Member No.: 7,661 Gender: Male |
In Stargate season 8 ep 13, sg1 find a puddle jumper with a timedrive thing in it, and those engravings written in ancient prophersising the future. Is the ancient who did this the same one that helped weir ( i forget his name).He was experimenting with time drives, the devices in the both ep. and in the two ships look the same.. Did finish off his experiments with time on earth, and then go exploring. Did sg1 just find his other ship.? Is there more to come from him. in a later ep. or series.....
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| nitesoul |
Jan 19th 2005, 6:53 PM
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Staff Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: November 28th 2004 Member No.: 7,092 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(saulos @ Jan 19th 2005, 6:27 PM) In Stargate season 8 ep 13, sg1 find a puddle jumper with a timedrive thing in it, and those engravings written in ancient prophersising the future. Is the ancient who did this the same one that helped weir ( i forget his name).He was experimenting with time drives, the devices in the both ep. and in the two ships look the same.. Did finish off his experiments with time on earth, and then go exploring. Did sg1 just find his other ship.? Is there more to come from him. in a later ep. or series..... Just a thought *shrugs, we dont know, only that he did take his research along with him when he left atlantis so anything is possible, as season 9 will reveal more about the ancients we may finally get your answer |
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| Major Jay Carter |
Jan 25th 2005, 5:17 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 61 Joined: December 2nd 2004 From: York, UK Member No.: 7,131 Gender: Female |
this ep rocks! I just saw it and it was so cool! I love time travel ones. And new out posts, too!
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| Dafmeister |
Jan 25th 2005, 5:23 PM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Excellent episode. One of the best of the season. Loved the little remarks that Sheppard and McKay were saying to each other when they found out the other died. Did the past version of Weir call the Ancients, Lanteans or Atlanteans? I couldnt make it out.
At the end McKay said they had already been to one of the planets on the list, was it the one from 'Childhood`s End'? Thats the only world we've seen with a ZPM isnt it? Cant wait to see the rest of the season now. I was just looking at the pics posted by nunu a few post up. Is the woman in the second pic Amatsuratsu (spelling?), the Goa'uld we see in 'New Order'? This post has been edited by Dafmeister: Jan 25th 2005, 5:25 PM |
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| frostychocolatemilkshakes |
Jan 25th 2005, 11:41 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: June 29th 2004 From: Alberta, Canada Member No.: 5,390 Gender: Male |
This was a very cool EP.
We got to see our first (and hopefully not last) glimpse into the city's past. We also got to see the cool Time ship that apparently will be on the SG-1 season 8 finale "Moebius" I hope we get to see more of the ancients in upcoming episodes. I sure wish they hadn?t lost their battle with the wraith, though.   |
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| sgc_commander |
Jan 26th 2005, 6:05 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 238 Joined: June 10th 2004 From: Colorado Springs, Cheyenne Mountain, level 28 Member No.: 5,240 Gender: Male |
i personally didnt watch it when it aired on sky one, i recoreded it and guess what i missed the last bit, i got up to the part where the Ancient that was being nice to Weir was about to leave with the info on his time ship. Then it stopped curse Sky one for showing that trailer for 24
Please Help Other wise a great episode |
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| ali |
Jan 26th 2005, 12:08 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 985 Joined: January 20th 2004 From: Gloucestershire, England Member No.: 3,298 Gender: Female |
This has to be my favourite ep of Atlantis so far. I love the time travel ones. For some reason the part where Elizabeth was left in the city by herself and then finally died after she'd met the others made me really sad...I can't explain it.
I liked the fact that they still managed to get humour in as well with Mckay and Sheppard making fun of each other for dying. Brilliant episode. What am I going to do when this series finishes?! |
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| Krystian SG1 |
Jan 29th 2005, 9:47 AM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 184 Joined: November 3rd 2004 From: Chicago Member No.: 6,863 Gender: Male |
I guess that that guy builds another time ship.
Click for Spoiler |
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| stargatesweetie |
Jan 31st 2005, 12:46 PM
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Lieutenant Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,518 Joined: February 24th 2003 From: Birmingham UK Member No.: 846 Gender: Female |
I didn't not like the episode, i just thought the storyline was a little too "out there" -sorry i can't think of a better thing to say
 I mean, what were the chances of Weir managing to choose the "time ship" and travel thorough time like that?! That's the only thing that could have been improved upon storywise, otherwise the episode was ok. The dialogue between McKay and Sheppard was amusing as usual and Weir was better than her usual bland self. |
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| thecopyczar |
Feb 18th 2005, 11:45 PM
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Airman Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: September 19th 2004 Member No.: 6,453 Gender: Not Telling |
Best episode of Atlantis I have yet seen. I am confused on one thing though. I just saw it tonight - on SciFi channel. And I was under the opinion that it was a new episode. How come everyone else has seen it already? And you too Arcady! We both live in the same city! How on earth did you see it in December?
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| linda_lol |
Feb 19th 2005, 12:18 AM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 482 Joined: March 13th 2004 From: Playing jaffa with Teal'c! Member No.: 3,933 Gender: Female |
OMG.
That was great! That was one of the best I've ever seen coming from SGA. It really digs into the characters. When McKay gave up his life for Weir and the others, that really touched me. I always found him really attached to life and seeing him give it up for them.... wow. Beckett did some good acting as well. And as for Weir, holy shiz. I'm startin to like her a lot more now. I hope people realize that she is worth something on the show cuz she really is a great actress and character. QUOTE I didn't not like the episode, i just thought the storyline was a little too "out there Most are "out there", but this one was good. |
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| RJLCyberPunk |
 Feb 19th 2005, 8:43 AM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 337 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: Ponce, Puerto Rico Member No.: 5,415 Gender: Male |
I loved this episode I think it was wonderfully written and it has its mix of poignant and humorous moments.
Lot's of character development in this episode! It has been said that we humans at our best when things are at their worst. And this episode depicted just that in all its poignant glory! a 10/10 absolutely! |
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| mithwriter |
Feb 19th 2005, 12:04 PM
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Major General  Group: Members Posts: 2,438 Joined: February 26th 2003 Member No.: 885 Gender: Female |
I'll admit that the all the character interactions kept me hooked. This was the best Weir's been so far, and kudos to TH in general, which was good considering she was the driving character. I'll also say that it was kinda cool to see a sort of AU, if you will, of what could've happened when her team first showed up at Atlantis. What was strange for me personally was that, when the pilot first aired, I made some comments about how such a big deal was made of the sheild's losing power but how it ultimately didn't matter because the city just rose to the surface anyway.
The 'first' version, was, for me, a much more intense and satisfying experience as a viewer to see these characters facing a worst case scenario, especially the main 3 characters (Weir, Rodney, and Sheppard). My only gripe was that the cut from the jumper being in space being attacked by the Wraith to Weir with the Ancients needed one or two more transitional scenes, but its a small thing to point out in light of the overall episode. I'd also like to weigh in with the topic of the Ancients being so 'flawed' as a race for people who managed to do the things they managed to do. Personally, I find that much more appealing. I think its one of the truest reflections of humanity that the show has done. If you want a more direct comparison, look at the relationship within a typical family. Don't kids (at least when they're younger) have an idolized version of their parents? It is only as they grow up that they begin to see more clearly that their parents have flaws too...which in turn makes the children flawed as well since they are a direct descendant of their parents. The trick is, can the children recognize their own shortcomings and rise above them, or are they destined to make the same mistakes their parents made? Back to the episode....yes, I had a slight WTF  moment when it turned out everyone was speaking the same perfect English as Weir when Illyana couldn't in Frozen, and she was (presumably) one of the same group of Atlanteans that evacuated at the end. Also....I also found it unlikely that no one who was supervising the evacuation made a special point to see Weir out the door (so to speak), especially in light of her and Jonas (another one???) working together. Overall though it was pretty good. |
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| Crilisin |
Feb 19th 2005, 1:30 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: December 8th 2004 From: Gihad Member No.: 7,192 Gender: Male |
this one made me feel realy sad.to think,all of them have died in a nother time line.
well,it was a good ep and im glad they found a zpm. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Feb 19th 2005, 5:35 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
Oh my. This one was interesting. I really don't think I could have done what Weir did in this situation.
Giving up your life for others when it's chaos and imminent and adrenalin is pumping madly is one thing...but deliberately, consciously choosing to stay by yourself (and in stasis) in an abandoned city, underwater, in a strange place for 10,000 years?? Her choice took far more courage and fortitude (without denigrating the other's sacrifice), than the rest combined. That would be HORRIBLE. Can you imagine how it would feel to go into that box and push that button? Twice? Aging beyond the imagination of man while other creatures in the universe were born, lived, loved, procreated, accrued knowledge, and died - with no hope of rescue, joy, comfort, human contact, and probably anyone even ever knowing of her great sacrifice. The utter and desolate aloneness of it.... I would have walked right through that gate with the ancients and tried to work with Januus to re-build the time ship in order to hopefully jump back to my own time. One thing about this episode though, Weir now knows what great courage and strength is within her and maybe we'll start to see her as a more confident leader. |
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| Aquila |
Feb 19th 2005, 9:44 PM
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First Lieutenant  Group: Members Posts: 703 Joined: April 13th 2004 From: Cultivating American Beech and Chestnut trees Member No.: 4,810 Gender: Male |
Very interesting look at things Sighfienerd. I thought this episode was fascinating in the fact that we got to see the living breathing Ancients in how they really were...the solemness and rambunctiousness at the same time yet with an air of humility and superiority intertwined. No doubt that we saw the one female counsel member who recorded the evacuation message when SG-A first came to Atlantis. I wonder what really happened to all of them...as for the development of Wier's character...all in due time.
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| daffy |
Feb 19th 2005, 11:20 PM
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Staff Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: August 8th 2004 From: Atlantis, or BSG Member No.: 5,978 Gender: Male |
atlantis was empty, maybe most people were already evacuated or something.
I was expecting more like 10,000+++ ancients packed awaiting the last couple hundred to make the trip to earth. cool tho. little nitpick, when weir went in cryo-thing the room looked totally different from when sheppard was in it in the first 10 minutes of the show great episode..10/10 |
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