maybe there is a set of rings in the station.


I agree. I thought that the personal shield might be "cooler" in that situation, but we are talking about a lot of pressure, and energy conservation does become a problem. I am suprised that the cruiser wasn't crushed.

But the platform had a docking port for the PJ That is what I dont understand, I saw atleast 2.

perhaps thats for the underwater jumpers..

i would guess that the ancients had 2 types of jumper, normal and ones modified for underwater use..

that would make sense for the underwater base back in 311..

and there might be transporter or rings, but they were still in the process of exploring it...

also its nearly impossible to begin up the cruiser.. do you know how big is that bloody thing.. i would guess they would repair it and then fly it up

regarding the salt water thing
you forget the saltwater only work on the exposed skin of the bug and not on the outer shell, i would guess the wraith skin prevents the salt from affecting it or the human dna, reduces the side effect

we now know that a wraith queen is capable of extreme environments..wow

All Jumpers work underwater to a certain depth. They outfitted one with a grappler for a specific mission.

So no, one type of Jumper, multiple uses.

It is structurally intact... the sublight drive was out of power, so it couldn't be flown out.

if the Ancient made specific jumpers for underwater use, then we would just call it a regular jumper, we wouldn't call it a "modified" jumper.

But like Revan said, all of the jumpers have submarine capabilities.

i liked this ep, though its nothing i really havent seen before in one form or the other. Just a new take on it for me.

I would hope they do something with the platform and cruiser in the future.

and why would a wraith queen be on a cruiser anyway, surely a hive ship would be much better for her...

**1/2,

The Crusier is a smaller target, I suppose...? Though that didn't really work, they still got shot down.

I think she was on a cruiser for the simple fact that they didn't want to give us another hive, and they knew that we could not miss a Hive parked that close to where they were going.

Well a hive would be cool

I hope we get somethig out of the cruiser, weapons or some darts. Maybe some other techniques that are quite useful, like new ways of powerdistribution etc.

I always dislike the fact that we get cool stuff (Hive ship, cruiser, Ancient warship, other ancient ship, thousends of drones etc.) and that nothing is done with it. McKay is capable of solving the most complicated problems when it comes to ancient technology (he's always doing the impossible) but he isn't capable of making some effective weapons (that not use 30 bullets per wraith) of some means of attacking....

I would say: set up the drone factory, make sure there is a nice constant flow of drones, and equip all shuttles with them....... find out how to copy the human shield we've seen two times, give it a powersource (like a crystal from SG-1 from a Ori weapon).....

But nooo, we use the technology one time and then it disappears, i geuss the same will hapen to the Cruiser in ep20.


Does someone know when 19 is aired?

At least the gun didnt fall apart this time Rodney is getting better with the shooting thing, but he did scream for help like he does everytime, that was funny.

I think that cruiser will at some point get blown up or be sacraficed to either save Sheppards team, the Deadalus, or Atlantis, can anyone tell me the average life-span of a wraith ship in the hands of the Atlantis team??

Good episode though, I wish they explained why the Ancients ditched the station, I guess they'll explain more about it later...

Would a Hive have survived impact?



They might not even get the Cruiser off the ocean, and nothing may come of the deep-sea platform...

I liked this EP I thought it was great character development for Weir and Teyla I like the friendship that is there between them. I also thought it was funny when Teyla kicked Ronon there OMG I know it was the Queen in control at the time but still. I like how they paired my ships like they should.

why didnt the ancients just connect atlantis(after it was sunk) to the underwater platform, and run the sheilds of it forever

And do what? Sit in their city for thousands of years doing nothing... Blocking the gate so that Wraith don't dial it, and waiting for all the Wraith to go back to sleep? The Ancients are explorers, I don't think they would have settled for such a life, and plus, they desired ascension.

good question,
but jumpers " are not armored ", there are shilds, and those shilds could be active or inactive...
+jumper was inactive

at least
a wraith ship for our people
and a preaty good one

submersion was fine. litle action, little horror, some fun

You could have edited your previous post... There is an edit button for a while under each post you make... Instead of making a new post right under your previous post, you should try to edit it... Double posting is not allowed.

They jumpers were not originally sheilded. Mckay reverse engineers the cloaking device to emit a sheild in the same way that they changed Atlantis' sheild to cloak the city.

Maybe the windshield came crashing down because there were a rapid pressure change with occurred at the impact of the energy black, and the entire weight of the ocean came crashing in.

64% Full of telegraphy, but alright.

ACCESSORISATION OF THE WEEK: Since when do Puddle Jumpers have strobe lights?

NEW THERMODYNAMICS OF THE WEEK: Geothermal power is good, but not as good as the kind of power we would be expecting from a ZPM.

NEW DIVISION OF LABOUR OF THE WEEK: Why is Weir along? As leader of Atlantis, she should be there leaving Shepherd to lead the exploration team.

NEW RADIOTELEPHONY OF THE WEEK: If everyone is on the same channel, Zelenka should have heard the conservation between Shepherd and McKay about the first loss of power.

EFFECTIVENESS OF THE WEEK: The direction to make the Wraith demon look creepy was kind of cool.

MYSTERY OF THE WEEK: Or of the series rather. Why doesn't Teyla use contractions? It makes her dialogue sound very forced.

HOMOPHOBIA OF THE WEEK: Shepherd hates queens. I spit upon his bigotry.

PITY MONGERING OF THE WEEK: The scene with Teyla begging for pity from Weir for her guilt was rather poorly done.

REDSHIRTS OF THE WEEK: Hands up who didn't see the deaths of the other scientists coming last week! Playing on the concept with McKay not knowing their names was cool though.

EARNED PAYCHECK OF THE WEEK: I was slightly more impressed than usual with the set design. Not sure why, but it just seemed better.

ATLANTIS UNINTELLIGENCE OF THE WEEK:

100% no longer entertained by by this posting gimmick.

I don't remember there being any telelgraphs in this episode.


It seems to be extremely effective in Inferno (until the citizens misused the shield).


Well, if she wasn't along for the ride, she wouldn't have been in this ep at all. As a main character, she deserves to go off base from time to time.

Teal'c doesn't really use them either.

IMO she didn't want pity, she wanted redemption.

It's the startrek rule. If you don't know the names of someone that is along for the ride, they will probably die.

Are we supposed to add our own thoughts?

This post has been edited by JTMAG1: Jan 26th 2007, 1:05 PM

Are you SG's sister?

Jumpers are somewhat armored. They were not using the adapted shield generator in this episode, the platform was not deep enough.

Glom, why do you make posts like that?

pardone mua
am getting old. and I do forget sometimes
+ maybe McKay modified Ronons gun+

Y noone talks about this jackass' poor grammar? I bet he didn't even realize those little mistakes.

Mckay reverse engineered the cloaking devices to emit a sheild in the same way that they changed Atlantis' sheild to cloak the city.

Maybe the windshield came crashing down because there was a rapid pressure change which occurred at the impact point of the energy blast, and then the entire weight of the ocean came crashing in.

It still makes sense to me, not gonna change that... But what's with the sheild... You spelled it like that both in the quoted post and in this post, two times in this one. It's shield.

the surprise friend was definitly surprising...