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| Sylver |
 Sep 19th 2006, 10:33 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 43 Joined: July 28th 2006 From: East Coast, USA Member No.: 12,115 Gender: Female  |
QUOTE Speaking of Teyla - and Ronon - can they please start paying attention to them too? That would have made the episode truely perfect, had they not ignored these two, yet again. Well, can't get everything. I can't agree enough. Really not enough. |
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| Pitry |
Sep 20th 2006, 10:46 AM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(hobo_joe20 @ Sep 19th 2006, 7:55 PM)  How does "potential to be freakishly scary" sound then?  Because they really could have made them out to be alot worse. Keep the same plot lines, scenes, etc. Just add some stuff where the wraith are in the city/attacking the Atlantis teams that the atlantis keep seeing ghosts and so don't actually have an accurate count of how many wraith are actually out there.Much better. ;) The psychological issue is why I enjoy the Orii so much - I hope they'll start paying attention to that side of the Wraith soon, rather than just have life-sucking vampires rummaging around muttering cliches. ;) (Pitry isn't a big Wraith fan - although they're getting much better now that Christopher Heyerndel (sp?) is doing them!) As for the DHD discussion - McKay mentioned the reason they can't manually dial-up - they haev no power. False, actually, because it has been established in Stargate that the gate should hold enough excessive power for one more dial up without a DHD, but I can't remember which episode that was. In all others they did need a power source for a manual dial-up -Torment of Tantlaos, Prisoners, New Ground... I agree, however, that blowing the DHD with c4 is idiotic. So was the UAV ;) |
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| seymour |
Sep 21st 2006, 12:27 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 233 Joined: February 2nd 2004 Member No.: 3,394 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(mithwriter @ Sep 17th 2006, 12:46 PM) Not too shabby, although I too recognized elements of the vastly superior "Paradise Lost" episode, which was far creepier than this was. I appreciate how the plot started Ronan running away from the team to chase his hallucination, but had him circle around back to the team when his delusions were at their height. I thought the Beckett arc was the best one of the lot, and I was genuinely surprised that the first soldier was dead for so long, while the other one he thought was dead was still hanging in there. Well done. I think they missed a great opportunity with the Sheppard/Teyla arc. I think it would've been more interesting if Sheppard had thought he was trying to save someone in another scenario that he really cared about while she doesn't realise that his reactions are for someone else really not there. Instead, it was sort of a one way street as far as character dynamics go. Oh well. Totally agree. Teyla is fading away as a character. QUOTE Speaking of Teyla - and Ronon - can they please start paying attention to them too? That would have made the episode truely perfect, had they not ignored these two, yet again. Well, can't get everything. Ronon did at least have a recent episode focused on him. Teyla's seems to have lost everything, including that fighting room she used for training! This post has been edited by seymour: Sep 21st 2006, 12:37 AM |
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| cosmos |
Sep 26th 2006, 2:00 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Donating Members Posts: 471 Joined: May 18th 2004 From: UK Member No.: 5,080 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Pitry @ Sep 20th 2006, 4:46 PM) As for the DHD discussion - McKay mentioned the reason they can't manually dial-up - they haev no power. False, actually, because it has been established in Stargate that the gate should hold enough excessive power for one more dial up without a DHD, but I can't remember which episode that was. In all others they did need a power source for a manual dial-up -Torment of Tantlaos, Prisoners, New Ground... I agree, however, that blowing the DHD with c4 is idiotic. So was the UAV ;) There is mention from McKay that the guy that did this; new exactly where to place the C4 in order to assure destruction. He may just as well removed the center piece and placed the explosion between the crystals. The point is that that even an armored car would break up if the grenade is under its hood. About the manual dial up, it crossed my mind too. However the design of the Stargate in the Pegasus is different; no moving parts. In any other example you have mentioned the team moves the ring and locks the Chevrons by hand. They couldn't have done it with their current gate. |
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| Ty_dA_maNn58 |
Oct 17th 2006, 1:54 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: September 27th 2004 Member No.: 6,545 Gender: Male |
This episode was pretty good. I found it a bit boring at times, but I was wondering how the team would make it out of this one (cuz I knew for sure that all 5 of them would make it out alive...as usual) When they found the first few bodies and they said 'this one has been shot' and Teyla said 'several times' or whatever, I immediately thought of Lt. Ford. But saddly I was wrong
 When Barroso and Kagan were shot I assumed they would both die which kinda made me angry as the show has a knack of just killing off other teams (which I just realized do not have assigned names like SG-5) But I was amazed when Barroso was alive. But whoa!!! he wasn't really alive, it was just Beckett, awesome twist. It threw me off when Leonard called for the Promethus and he saw the Kull warriors. I have never seen him before but I assume that means he had a tie in with a previous stargate sg-1 episode. (did he star in one? or was it just implied that he was involved in an off-camera scene with them) Correct me if I'm wrong but Wasn't the Taliban at war with Russia and the U.s. was backing the Taliban? So why was Sheppard shooting at them? Unless I'm thinking of a different time... |
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| Revan |
Oct 17th 2006, 4:22 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith  Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Ty_dA_maNn58 @ Oct 17th 2006, 2:54 PM) It threw me off when Leonard called for the Promethus and he saw the Kull warriors. I have never seen him before but I assume that means he had a tie in with a previous stargate sg-1 episode. (did he star in one? or was it just implied that he was involved in an off-camera scene with them) Correct me if I'm wrong but Wasn't the Taliban at war with Russia and the U.s. was backing the Taliban? So why was Sheppard shooting at them? Unless I'm thinking of a different time... No, it just means he was a member of the SGC when we had to deal with the Kull Warriors. Not in the Persian Gulf War... 1990.... I think that is where the flashbacks took place...  |
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| cosmos |
Oct 18th 2006, 12:18 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant Group: Donating Members Posts: 471 Joined: May 18th 2004 From: UK Member No.: 5,080 Gender: Male |
I guess in this episode they provided the details behind Sheppard's unfavourable transfer to the Atlantic. Despite his experience and training he was sent to fly people back and forth from the station. And also it ties with the comments about not following proper procedure and with his comment in "The Intruder" about knowing many people who thought he'd never go further than Major. I like that continuity of the little things.
I also liked that the escort soldiers were involved in the episode. They usually treat them as non persons. They usually just get killed or beaten up. |
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| startreksuite |
Oct 28th 2006, 6:54 AM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: March 26th 2005 From: Boston, MA , USA Member No.: 8,622 Gender: Male |
Great episode! Loved the fact that a wraith device messed with everyone's heads, blurring the line of reality for each person! It stunk that so many people died on this episode. It seemed a little strange that the guy with the life threatening injury died and the guy who people ignored died
 The fact that it was able to mess with everyone but Teyla was interesting, it could be the fact she has some Wraith DNA in her!  |
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| JTMAG1 |
Oct 28th 2006, 11:40 AM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(startreksuite @ Oct 28th 2006, 6:54 AM) Great episode! Loved the fact that a wraith device messed with everyone's heads, blurring the line of reality for each person! It stunk that so many people died on this episode. It seemed a little strange that the guy with the life threatening injury died and the guy who people ignored died The fact that it was able to mess with everyone but Teyla was interesting, it could be the fact she has some Wraith DNA in her! I think that's specifically why it didn't bother her. I just wonder who the wraith were fighting where they thought they needed equipment like this... |
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| Xen |
Nov 4th 2006, 3:11 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
I think the Genii. Since (I used it!) they found them, early in the EP. But, I fail to see why they would need to use that. Unless, it was a test of Tech.
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| JTMAG1 |
Nov 4th 2006, 4:45 PM
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The Last Shogun Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Xen @ Nov 4th 2006, 3:11 PM) I think the Genii. Since (I used it!) they found them, early in the EP. But, I fail to see why they would need to use that. Unless, it was a test of Tech. I agree, perhaps this was test equipment left over from a time before they had the ability to use it, because, they were using that trick in Rising weren't they? |
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| Xen |
Nov 5th 2006, 12:02 AM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: May 6th 2006 From: Surrey, BC. Member No.: 11,743 Gender: Male |
I don't recall that, but from what I can remember. In rising the Wraith were playing mind games with them. Showing them things that were not there. Yeah, I agree that it was from a time before they could use it.
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| Dafmeister |
Dec 13th 2006, 5:20 PM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
It was a pretty good episode but there was just too much going on. Ronon and McKay's "visions" were virtually abandonned and only thrown back in as a plot device.
I liked the way that McKay bullet wound miraculously moved from the left hand side of his chest, just after Sheppard shot him, to the left hand side of his abdomen as Beckett was bandaging him up.  It seems to me that TPTB are purposely ignoring Ronon and Teyla for some reason. They refer to Teyla's Wraith DNA occasionally but they never do anything with it except have it as a plot device. The majority of the episode revolving around Sheppard is getting boring now. There's a whole city of people in the show, get rid of Sheppard for a while and include the supporting cast for a change. |
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| JC1 |
Dec 14th 2006, 6:27 PM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 950 Joined: January 13th 2003 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 342 Gender: Male |
Another good Atlantis episode. Although, I don't know why Weir just didn't sent a puddle jumper through. They could have used the onboard DHD to dial the gate, instead of waiting around for the Deadalus.
I would have liked to have seen how Shepards Afghanastan mission ended. Was Shepards Afghanastan hallucination, supposed to be the 'black mark' incident on his record? If so, its different than incident described in "Rising" and it hardly seems like enough for people like Landry, O'Neill and other officers to mistrust Shepard. |
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