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 118 - The Gift |
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| frostychocolatemilkshakes |
 Jan 25th 2005, 11:48 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: June 29th 2004 From: Alberta, Canada Member No.: 5,390 Gender: Male  |
Teyla as a wraith ??oooo creepy.
 This EP was very cool. But do they have to keep giving away top secret info about Atlantis and there operations. You think they would be getting smarter! LOL It would really suck if the wraith got through to Earth but I?m sure the Asgard would crush them. Hope the Atlantis Team prevails in "The Siege"  |
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| fan_83 |
Feb 9th 2005, 1:38 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: November 11th 2004 Member No.: 6,930 Gender: Male |
i got a simple theory..
i believe taht the one of the wraith bug that landed on sheppard in 38 mins.. fell onto one of teh ancient and managed to sort of merge into a wraith.. sort of the best of both world... then it has all the capability of and knowledge of the ancient... it then merge its brother bugs onto the defenceless humans... and start building weapons to dominate... know i;m guessing that the first wraith is not a weapon speacialist so its knowledge of ancient weapons and knowledge is not complete.. therefore its less powerful tahn the ancient but they have numbers.. what you guys think ?? |
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| TeamX76 |
Feb 22nd 2005, 4:33 PM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: January 27th 2005 From: Wales, United Kingdom Member No.: 7,765 Gender: Male |
McKay - i got a little...
Ford - *big smile*... You got a little what? Mckay? you got a little what!!! |
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| Dafmeister |
Feb 22nd 2005, 5:15 PM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
Great episode. Atlantis has become much better in the last few weeks. Its so much better than SG1. We finally find out what the Wraith are, just want to know how human DNA managed to merge with that of the bug. I thought they just 'sucked' the life from you, not your blood. Cant wait to see the finale. The part when Zelenka told McKay to pay up was ace, it was made much more effective by having them do it in the background.
Where did the chair come from? A whole season and they only decide to try the chair now, seemed a bit of an after thought to me. That Cavanagh still gets on my nerves. For some reason i was expecting someone to turn around and hit him. |
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| katykoo |
Feb 22nd 2005, 5:38 PM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: April 14th 2004 From: Cardiff UK Member No.: 4,819 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Carter-Hot @ Jan 25th 2005, 3:15 PM) I have one favourite bit where Teyla under the influence of a Wraith, says in an evil sly Wraith-like voice -- "You're all so pathetic"  I loved that part. On the whole really liked this episode, I'm glad we are getting to see more of Teyla's character to develop - cool about her being half wraith. |
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| hawkes |
Feb 22nd 2005, 8:07 PM
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Airman First Class Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: March 14th 2003 From: UK Member No.: 1,104 |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Feb 22nd 2005, 10:15 PM) Great episode. Atlantis has become much better in the last few weeks. Its so much better than SG1. We finally find out what the Wraith are, just want to know how human DNA managed to merge with that of the bug. I thought they just 'sucked' the life from you, not your blood. Cant wait to see the finale. The part when Zelenka told McKay to pay up was ace, it was made much more effective by having them do it in the background. Where did the chair come from? A whole season and they only decide to try the chair now, seemed a bit of an after thought to me. That Cavanagh still gets on my nerves. For some reason i was expecting someone to turn around and hit him. Cavanagh, lol, yeah he is annoying. I kind of like how it shows that this team is going to have problems like that, conflicts not just from outside forces but from inside aswell. It makes it a little bit more real. McKay has definately been a great choice for Atlantis, he's been a real highlight. Could anyone else have imagined he'd actually be such a good addition? As for the Wraith and their origins... yeah it's good to have some idea, i can't wait to see how they explain it in more detail. I definately can't wait for the finale, much more so than i was SG1's. |
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| furlie |
Feb 27th 2005, 2:45 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: January 21st 2005 From: The not so sunny south east of Ireland. Member No.: 7,692 Gender: Male |
this episode made me think.the wraith evolved after the ancients came to pegasus,there should already have been other races in pegasus,the wraith probably would have fed on some of theses races.one of these races could be as advanced or nearly as advanced as the ancients,with the wraith attacking they decided to take action but not finding a direct way of attacking the wraith they decided to take out their main food supply-humans-to do this they made the virus that would kill humans(i think the nanovirus in hot zone).what do you think
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| StillLoveJeffWebber |
Mar 4th 2005, 9:48 PM
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Airman Basic Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: July 23rd 2003 From: chevron 8 Member No.: 2,122 Gender: Female |
I hate clip shows even though this was blended well - didn't we just have a clip show on Atlantis? but ....where was I? ah yes... leadership. This post has been edited by StillLoveJeffWebber: Mar 4th 2005, 9:50 PM |
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| wack |
Mar 8th 2005, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(StillLoveJeffWebber @ Mar 5th 2005, 3:48 AM) I hate clip shows even though this was blended well - didn't we just have a clip show on Atlantis? but ....where was I? ah yes... leadership. This was a great episode. Really really good in my eyes. Btw removed the colour and the big size. Hard to read with it. |
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| Christy |
Mar 11th 2005, 10:28 PM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
i wonder if atlantis will have more clip shows like this?
they certainly did a good job with this one |
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| Crilisin |
Mar 11th 2005, 10:43 PM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 136 Joined: December 8th 2004 From: Gihad Member No.: 7,192 Gender: Male |
That was a good EP.I realy liked that one.
But,do the wraith really think they can take down the Milky Way galixiy.They may have a advantage in tech but,the have to beat two of the four race's,us,and the jaffa.WE have MORE people.  |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 12th 2005, 8:46 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Crilisin @ Mar 12th 2005, 3:43 AM) That was a good EP.I realy liked that one. But,do the wraith really think they can take down the Milky Way galixiy.They may have a advantage in tech but,the have to beat two of the four race's,us,and the jaffa.WE have MORE people. Do we really have more people? That hasnt been established yet. The Ancients were defeated because the Wraith had suerior numbers. The Asgard arent in any condition to fight another war, they are busy re-establishing their civilisation. The Ancients dont care about those who are mortal,so they would get involved. I doubt the Jaffa could do anything as they didnt seem to have many ships when they returned to Dakara. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Mar 12th 2005, 11:00 AM
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Beyond here there be dragons  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
Teyla's gift has very possibly turned into a curse. I don't know how they could regard her as anything but a security risk now because her connection with the Wraith went far beyond simple telepathy.
Her mind and body were actually being controlled by them and now that the Wraith are aware of her, couldn't they just use her at any time to get information, especially when she sleeps? And to get a little nit-picky - why were the Wraith able to do this to her? There doesn't seem to be a precedent for other Wraiths being able to do this to each other. If anything, I would think the connection would be weaker since Teyla's Wraith DNA is minimal. My last nit-pick with this episode - not enough Dr. Rodney McKay scenes!  |
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| RJLCyberPunk |
 Mar 12th 2005, 11:14 AM
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Master Sergeant Group: Members Posts: 337 Joined: July 1st 2004 From: Ponce, Puerto Rico Member No.: 5,415 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(furlie @ Feb 27th 2005, 2:45 PM) this episode made me think.the wraith evolved after the ancients came to pegasus,there should already have been other races in pegasus,the wraith probably would have fed on some of theses races.one of these races could be as advanced or nearly as advanced as the ancients,with the wraith attacking they decided to take action but not finding a direct way of attacking the wraith they decided to take out their main food supply-humans-to do this they made the virus that would kill humans(i think the nanovirus in hot zone).what do you think I think that is very good theory and very good posibility. This episode was interesting. If only Teyla were able to block the Wraith from controllng her when she in their Telephatic network It would go a long way into being able to gather intelligence on them. With the brief conections she made into it a lot of data was gathered that otherwise it would have been impossible to know. |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 12th 2005, 11:47 AM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Mar 12th 2005, 4:00 PM) Teyla's gift has very possibly turned into a curse. I don't know how they could regard her as anything but a security risk now because her connection with the Wraith went far beyond simple telepathy. Her mind and body were actually being controlled by them and now that the Wraith are aware of her, couldn't they just use her at any time to get information, especially when she sleeps? The Wraith were only able to take control of her when she attempted to 'connect' with them. We havent seen if the Wraith can take control of her at will. QUOTE And to get a little nit-picky - why were the Wraith able to do this to her? There doesn't seem to be a precedent for other Wraiths being able to do this to each other. If anything, I would think the connection would be weaker since Teyla's Wraith DNA is minimal. As Teyla is a very small part Wraith they are able to take control of her because she is not fully Wraith. I'd say that a 'pure' Wraith cannot take control of another Wraith because of possible telepathic defences. |
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| Sighfienerd |
Mar 12th 2005, 12:38 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 12th 2005, 11:47 AM) The Wraith were only able to take control of her when she attempted to 'connect' with them. We havent seen if the Wraith can take control of her at will. It seemed like it happened though when she was in a state of relaxation such as sleep (keeping in mind the very strong connection that was occurring during her dreams). QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 12th 2005, 11:47 AM) As Teyla is a very small part Wraith they are able to take control of her because she is not fully Wraith. I'd say that a 'pure' Wraith cannot take control of another Wraith because of possible telepathic defences. That makes sense - hadn't thought of the possibility that being only minimally Wraith could make her more vulnerable to them. |
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| Dafmeister |
Mar 12th 2005, 1:22 PM
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General Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Sighfienerd @ Mar 12th 2005, 5:38 PM) It seemed like it happened though when she was in a state of relaxation such as sleep (keeping in mind the very strong connection that was occurring during her dreams). But wasnt that because there was a Wraith in the city? Im guessing that close proximity makes it easier for them to effect her, but the fact that she is only a very small part Wraith makes it difficult for them to influence her over longer distances. Didnt she say at one point she only felt different after the Wraith transported down into the city. |
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| herooftheuniverse |
Mar 12th 2005, 1:31 PM
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Civilian  Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: March 12th 2005 Member No.: 8,416 Gender: Male |
Nice show, fun to watch, good music, some nice characters. But the show is already falling to Standard Crisis of the Week TV writing. Too many inconsistancies, too many things which happen just in the nick of time (whew.., heh?). I know it must be hard to write for a TV show and keep it both fresh and believable, but they do get the big bucks...
Anyway, its beats most TV fare. And my kids don't like it, which earns it two more points...! |
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| Sighfienerd |
Mar 12th 2005, 1:44 PM
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Beyond here there be dragons Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,387 Joined: December 4th 2004 From: Beyond "here" Member No.: 7,150 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(Dafmeister @ Mar 12th 2005, 1:22 PM) But wasnt that because there was a Wraith in the city? Im guessing that close proximity makes it easier for them to effect her, but the fact that she is only a very small part Wraith makes it difficult for them to influence her over longer distances. Didnt she say at one point she only felt different after the Wraith transported down into the city. I don't know - went off to have a look at the transcript and this is the closest I got to an answer: TEYLA: The Wraith are still very far away, are they not? WEIR: Yes, they are ? and McKay, he does have some doubts about the range of this telepathy. HEIGHTMEYER: But, as you said, you can sense the Wraith now. Now, if that?s merely a bleed-through effect into your consciousness of a greater latent ability, then it may be worth trying to break the barrier. |
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| ancient01 |
Mar 14th 2005, 6:54 AM
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Technical Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 298 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Phoenixville, PA Member No.: 6,239 Gender: Male |
I'm stuck on the wraith's background. How does this bug and a human just merge DNA? I think that episode with the bug is going to lead into a much bigger storyline. Could the bugs actually be sentient? Something like a Go'auld? Maybe latching onto another life form is some sort of an incubation process a la Aliens. I hope I'm wrong, though. It seems like it could parallel those movies a little too closely. Guess we'll see...
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| Teyla Emmagan |
Mar 16th 2005, 3:44 PM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: November 27th 2004 From: Major Sheppard's Bedroom in Atlantis Member No.: 7,081 Gender: Female |
I love it I love it I Love it . A must see for Teyla fans , and John and Teyla fans alike . But great all around .
  The Gift And if you like reading reviews then read this . This person is crazy . http://d4nvers.users.btopenworld.com/jf/118/118.html YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE !!!!!!!!  |
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| Christy |
Mar 18th 2005, 6:09 AM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
while this episode did show some dark sides and had some good entertainment it did bug me a bit.
Teyla just isnt my kind of girl. |
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| Teyla Emmagan |
Apr 26th 2005, 11:32 AM
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Senior Airman Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: November 27th 2004 From: Major Sheppard's Bedroom in Atlantis Member No.: 7,081 Gender: Female |
 that's how you feel .But I see great things coming for Teyla Emmagan , maybe and hopefully in the future Teyla and crew or John and Teyla are trapped on a planet and must use a wraith dart to return home to Atlantis , maybe she's have that natural pilot thing for a dart like John with the puddle jumper . just a though anyway . Man did ya see the way she threw Ford like a rag doll . |
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| Christy |
May 21st 2005, 9:32 PM
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Captain Group: Members Posts: 990 Joined: August 18th 2004 From: Australia Mate! Member No.: 6,098 Gender: Female |
I have been highly enjoying the fight scenes as they bring something to the show and it's good to see them training and learning new things and finding new ways which they could defend themselves from an enemy.
But also it is very good exercise. And to think they didn't make those fighting techniques up... It's good to see that they are researching things and adding them to the show |
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