1. Boring

2. They extended the shield 50% and yet the PJ was able to take off and fly when it was practically at the shield's center.

3. I've already seen Lord of the Flies. I thought it was boring too.

4. Obviously a budget episode. They must be in cost savings mode.

5. Why is Teyla on this team again? I don't ever recall seeing in the premier a given reason why she was made a member of this SG-1 clone team.

6. Boring

7. Why aren't they spending more time exploring the city? I assume they are, but why couldn't we have some more time seeing that in an episode?

8. I can't imagine the puddle jumpers being the full extent of what ships they have available around that city? The damned things look like cut bamboo shutes.

9. Boring

10. The core characters are lame. Sheppard is as lame as they come. Not enough acting skill on his part to keep it interesting. McKay is also a bit of a stretch. Using him for comedy relief is not going to work out. Teyla is just a Teal'C light version, and I didn't care for the darker haired Weir episode. I still can't figure out how the president could consider her for command of the SGC, where she was a bit over her head anyway, then give her the ability to handle what could be the most important mission(to Atlantis) in human history???

I don't see Atlantis lasting by itself. With the exception of the first two-parter the show has been as boring as watching paint dry. Once Stargate SG1 goes off the air, it looks like Battlestar Galactica will have to carry the load should they move it to Fridays to fill in for SG1.

MYOB'
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It's funny how Weir, who started out almost as a main character (I'd go as far as saying THE main chara) is seemingly being pushed back into a supporting role ala Hammond.
Originally I thought she'd be with the team and be doing Daniel's job of translating Ancient
Nice episode, albeit annoying with 2 re-used actors (for crying out loud).

The jumper wasn't at the shields center. When McKay returned from Atlantis, he landed the jumper well outside the shields coverage so that when the shield was powered back up they would have no problem. Who is to say the jumper wasn't so far from the original shields coverage that it was still outside the improved shields coverage? After all we have no idea how big the original shield was, a 50% boost might still be relatively small.

Are you referring to the theme that's been used since the 1984 LA games composed by the venerable John Williams? I to that man. Or is it the one that's been adapted from Copeland's Appalachian Spring: "Simple Gifts?" Either way, they're both phenomenal.

To keep this on topic I'm just gonna say that SG-1 was better than Atlantis this week because we got some MAJOR character development on SG-1. That didn't happen on Atlantis. McKay's not good with kids...okay... I felt this ep should have aired on the WB, but that's just me.

I still McKay, though. He's my favorite.

Edit: Eye caynt speel wuth a dern.

This post has been edited by xayeidemon: Aug 15th 2004, 12:20 AM

1. Character development.

2. Showing the actual morality of who we are dealing with, as with point 3.

3. Character development, did we learn anything of those involved?

4. Seeing another side of the characters, cant remember what its called ...





blah blah, bitch bitch, whine whine ... go make your own series that has so many viewers ... you want a good show? you want something you can follow? oh well umm watch and learn then ...

IT TOOK 8 YEARS FOR STARGATE TO HAVE A BATTLE OF HOTH SCENE ... whats that? go watch star wars and recognise a legend replayed in stargate ...

Sad, attempting to flame something that in one weekend has more impact than the entirety of your excistence ...

It will take a good while for them to get the characters out their shells ... its just groundwork right now ... I r in luv wi Weir ... she r sexeh babeh ... Yea shes like that just now ... I reckon ep 18 she'll b cool wi it ...

Um, I didn't see any flames in my posts. Maybe you'd better go back and read them again.

Edit:

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Who's flaming who here?

This post has been edited by xayeidemon: Aug 15th 2004, 12:53 AM

I like this episode. it was interesting and fresh (although there was actor recycleing). McKay is becoming my favourite character. He cracks me up. Lets hope atlantis continues in this fashion.

Yup, that is the same actor. It is a little funny when they do that. There was some reusing of actors in the latest SG1 as well.

I liked the ep, I was surprised that near the end they didn't get into a shoot out. I would be tempted to show the lethality of the P-90's to give those guys with the bows something to think about.

actually it was to the guy havin problems spelling bamboo shoots and has boring, boring, lame, lame, boring, boring through his post ... Its like theres so many people that just hate Atlantis because they can ... All they want is killing, spaceships, technology, spaceships, kill, kill, kill, spaceships, spaceships, spaceships, technology ... Its the first season, plenty time for that unless Atlantis is only going to be one season.

Ooohh... My bad. I got confused when you didn't say who the post was directed towards. It was late, and I was tired. Sorry about that.

I liked the episode, but it wasnt great. I was suprised and a little disappointed at how easy (morally) they took the ZPM. I mean they seem to have had a few issues with foreign things. Also, what makes their new presence of 40-50 people more important in the Pegasus galaxy more than the natural inhabitants of a few hundred.

Its cool xay ... me quoting woulda saved confusion ...

Good episode. I liked the plot and the way they interconnected the suicide pact and the gate generator, was this the Ancients plot? hmmm maybe theyre not so good, anyway it was good stuff and I also didnt notice it was Lt. Elliot.

PS-That one guy with the beard who plays one of the abythonians (sp?) was in that SG1 episode where they find the static bubble on that wasted planet. Also in "hide and seek" one of the soldiers was the same actor who played young general Hammond int he episode "1969".

enjoyable episode ***

well this series should do well i hope, but so far season 8 has been better. i will keep watching this and its sure to find its ground soon. cant wait for the next episodes

I didnt like the episode. Im gettin tired of these primitives pushing our people around. At the end I wished Shepperd mowed them down for their stupidity. Hethons should be eradicated!

OMG Weir actually seemed rather reasonable this episode to me. Maybe it had to do with her only being in it like 5 minutes, but she seemed pretty decent.

As I read the episode posts, from the first Rising 'till this one, it's funny when I remember how many hated the thought of McKay starring in Atlantis, and yet he has really become the favorite character of alot of people so far.

Another episode without Dr. Beckett. Let's hope he's around next week lest we forget about him.

I was happy to see Courtney Stevens again, too badhe wasn't in the role I would have preferred (Lt. Elliot) I think he did a good job with the material he had to work with, guest starring in this role was hardly as challanging as Proving Ground, I'm sure. And I think his recasting was fine since a few years have passed and he wasn't wearing the cap to cover his *cough* baldness .

Still, this ep could have done a lot more than it did.

Thank goodness McKay is along.

IMO, that kind of indicates you aren't even giving it a chance. Kind of how my wife reacts whenever we move, or change beds, or computers..."I hate it hate it hate it hate it!!11!1"

[Q]7. Why aren't they spending more time exploring the city? I assume they are, but why couldn't we have some more time seeing that in an episode? [/Q]

That would be because of the "Stargate" in the title.

[Q]8. I can't imagine the puddle jumpers being the full extent of what ships they have available around that city? The damned things look like cut bamboo shutes.[/Q]

I doubt they'd have a huge armada spacefleet, especially considering that it was just a city. Don't see huge bombers parked in the center of New York, do you?
Not to mention: They could have launched ships to fight the wraith and lost. They couldn't rebuild them cause they were on the rame.

[Q]. Sheppard is as lame as they come. Not enough acting skill on his part to keep it interesting.[/Q]

I agree, he hasn't been used as much, but at this point in SG1 neither was O'Neill.

[Q]McKay is also a bit of a stretch. Using him for comedy relief is not going to work out.[/Q]

Just as using Jack for Comedy relief in SG1 didnt work out? Sorry, but *THAT* is a bit of a stretch.

[Q]Teyla is just a Teal'C light version,[/Q]

So you both want Atlantis to be like SG1 but you DONT want it to be? A logical contradiction, which is unlikely. What seems to me to be more likely is that you dont want to give Atlantis a chance, and thus want to point out every little flaw, and thus the reasoning for your contradiction.

[Q]blah blah, bitch bitch, whine whine[/Q]

THANK YOU! Thats what I want to say, but I'm already seen as the evil mean grumpy old man here, so...

I'm sorry, but all this moaning and whining about how Atlantis isn't exactly like SG1 is really starting to get on my nerves. Duh its not! Give it a chance! I hate it when people become so closed minded....
If you want to read more of my mindless ranting, go to the main page of the Atlantis forum

I personally judge Atlantis Season one with Stargate SG-1 Season one, because it's not really fair comparing a show with 8 season to a new show which only aired just six episodes.

I really like the episode-#2 so far from the episodes Ive seen. #1 right now for me is 38 minutes. Seeing Elliot was great, I dont know why they killed him in sg1, he was good. But when I saw the previews i was like "Noooo dont kill him again!!!" I was very relieved at the end of the episode when he lived. I was kinda hoping he would reurn with them to Atlantis. Oh well, maybe well see him in later episodes.

Well I didnt like MCkay in this episode,he was being a moron, but he was funny with the kids. Hes kinda like the Major Davis of this show where he just doesnt think for the good of the team sometimes, only jumps quickly to resolve a solution or come up with a conclusion like "Oh I'll just take this ZPM without regard for their protection," where as Davis is"Oh well Sg1 must be dead." And he was working way too slow in the end.
I mean get your ass moving buddy! Well Ill still keep watching Atlantis even if it gets to be not very good because these(stargate shows) will probably be the only scifi I can follow- Andromeda, I tried and couldnt follow the science at all.

Sheppard must have brought along more than the one personal item allowed (we know he chose to bring a football game) because he seems to have an unending supply of hair gel and used rather too much of it in this episode.

Perhaps Teyla Emmagan had some alien hair products to lend him, she never has a hair of her beautiful wig out of place. Now Dr. Weir on the other hand obviously forgot to pack her hair brush.

This post has been edited by seymour: Aug 16th 2004, 3:07 AM

rotflmao!!

That's hilarious, and better still, a great point. Where is Sheppard getting all this hair gel? Maybe the Ancients left some behind. Judging from Aiyanna's hair in the pilot, they must have had plenty.

What does this mean?

rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

I personally don't find it funny...

hmmm... I thought this episode was pretty average. I think the problem I had with the story had to do with how many other stories it reminded me of. Yeah, I know there isn't anything new in sci-fi anymore.

Oh, it wasn't the Lord of the Flies that was going through my head, it was the Miri ep from the original ST as well as the Logan's Run movie. I knew exactly what was going to happen from the moment we met Karis. I knew Sheppard and team would find a way to A) inadvertantly notify the wraith that there's good eating at this location. Show this misguided society that sacrificing themselves at 24 was unnecessary. C) Try to take technology that protected the culture, but return it once they discover the battery wasn't as useful as they needed. I wonder what they would have done IF, they had found a fully charged battery. Bet, the situation would have been different if they discovered that it could have powered the stargate for a return trip to earth.

One nitpick I had was the kids. I don't understand why they weren't more fascinated with the "old" people. If, their culture had been sacrificing themselves for centuries, then they wouldn't have known what an old person looked like or for that matter what the Wraiths looked like too. In Logan's Run (and it makes alot of sense) when the people escape from the dome and finally see an old person, they are fascinated by his wrinkles, his white hair, his skin... You didn't see any of that in this story and you should have. That bothered me. I know you could say that different beings visited their settlements and were killed, but you'd still think they'd be more curious about what the intruders (McKay, Sheppard, Teyla and Ford) were like. Is it me, or does there seem to be a definite lack of curiousity being shown in Atlantis ? Okay, I can make the same argument for Stargate, but really... first contacts should instill more of a sense of awe and curiosity and I'm just not seeing that. so much for first contact.

I think the only thing that I really really enjoyed in this story was Rodney McKay. He just seems to be getting better and better with each episode. I LOVED his comments about Carter ! Oh, that was hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing at his wonderfully pompous attitude. And the kids ! they were great with him. I loved how they kept needling him. That was alot of fun. It's the one redeeming aspect of the episode I liked.

For the folks who didn't understand why Teyla keeps showing up on their mission teams. I think she's acting as Sacajewa (sp?) to the team's Lewis and Clark. You know, she's their translator (don't know why they need one since everyone speaks English.) and guide through the wilderness of Wraith space. Personally, you'd think they'd have brought along some UAVs and better surveillence equipment to explore these worlds. Remember, on Stargate, they always send a drone through to check out the area before a team goes in. Not doing that seems like sloppy proceedure to me.

You know, I did like the actor playing Karis. He was pretty good. But, in general, the story struck me as uninspired. But, these are my own opinions.

This post has been edited by CitizenK: Aug 17th 2004, 7:47 AM