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| JTMAG1 |
 Dec 29th 2006, 9:41 PM
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The Last Shogun  Group: Members Posts: 3,889 Joined: August 28th 2004 From: Long Beach, CA USA Member No.: 6,251 Gender: Male  |
QUOTE(canuck @ Dec 29th 2006, 7:44 PM)  Who on earth hates Rodney, they guy is one of the best parts of the show! I think people disliked his SG1 character, but he has evolved to someone much better in Atlantis. |
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| bigjohn_1972 |
Dec 29th 2006, 10:51 PM
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Brigadier General  Group: Members Posts: 2,227 Joined: January 4th 2004 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,135 Gender: Male |
Yeah, I think the show would be boring without him on it.
Look at the rating this episode got here on the forum, you don't get any higher than that! |
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| Revan |
Dec 29th 2006, 10:56 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Dec 29th 2006, 9:41 PM) I think people disliked his SG1 character, but he has evolved to someone much better in Atlantis. He was an uncaring, arrogant, egotistical ass... the type of person people love to hate... but then you get to know him, and learn why he is the way he is, and you love him instead. |
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| KillerMarv |
Dec 30th 2006, 2:15 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(JTMAG1 @ Dec 30th 2006, 4:41 AM) I think people disliked his SG1 character, but he has evolved to someone much better in Atlantis. Personally, I didn't dislike him in SG-1 either... He challenged Carter, he brought spice in both episodes he appeared in. I agree though that he evolved for Atlantis... I think by facing continous danger, people can change a bit.  |
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| bigjohn_1972 |
Dec 30th 2006, 2:42 AM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,227 Joined: January 4th 2004 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,135 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Revan @ Dec 29th 2006, 10:56 PM) He was an uncaring, arrogant, egotistical ass... the type of person people love to hate... but then you get to know him, and learn why he is the way he is, and you love him instead. Hey, just like me!! They tolerate me, they really tolerate me!  |
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| Revan |
Dec 30th 2006, 12:33 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(bigjohn_1972 @ Dec 30th 2006, 2:42 AM) Hey, just like me!! They tolerate me, they really tolerate me! Me as well... though it takes some time to get to know me, while a person barely tolerates me... eventually they rather like me though... |
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| Pegasus Angel |
Dec 30th 2006, 4:09 PM
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Awakened...  Group: Donating Members Posts: 610 Joined: February 13th 2006 From: Gibraltar Member No.: 11,176 Gender: Female |
Okay, I just had to watch this episode again and I watched it more closely this time and I can't believe it, Rodney nearly made me cry three times, when he healed Ronan, when he apologised to Zalenka, when he said thanks to Beckett...
 It was a very moving episode, even though it was my second viewing and I knew what was happening!!.On a side note I did a quiz on who is your stargate counterpart and I got McKay 88% and Teyla 83%, weird...  So yeah I'm loving McKay now!!! Didn't like his SG1 McKay character, but he's gotta be my 3rd fave now he's grown as a character... This post has been edited by Pegasus Angel: Dec 30th 2006, 4:09 PM |
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| bigjohn_1972 |
Dec 31st 2006, 2:50 AM
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Brigadier General Group: Members Posts: 2,227 Joined: January 4th 2004 From: Ontario Canada Member No.: 3,135 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Pegasus Angel @ Dec 30th 2006, 4:09 PM) Okay, I just had to watch this episode again and I watched it more closely this time and I can't believe it, Rodney nearly made me cry three times, when he healed Ronan, when he apologised to Zalenka, when he said thanks to Beckett... It was a very moving episode, even though it was my second viewing and I knew what was happening!!.On a side note I did a quiz on who is your stargate counterpart and I got McKay 88% and Teyla 83%, weird... So yeah I'm loving McKay now!!! Didn't like his SG1 McKay character, but he's gotta be my 3rd fave now he's grown as a character... So that would make some kind of Pegasus Angel / McKay / Teyla sandwhich! Cool! |
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| Pitry |
Jan 1st 2007, 10:06 AM
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Colonel  Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(KillerMarv @ Dec 30th 2006, 9:15 AM) Personally, I didn't dislike him in SG-1 either... He challenged Carter, he brought spice in both episodes he appeared in. I agree though that he evolved for Atlantis... I think by facing continous danger, people can change a bit. Hmm.. it might very well be my inability to seperate SG1 Rodney from SGA Rodney, but even watchign 48 Hours and Redemption, I lvoe him  |
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| KillerMarv |
Jan 3rd 2007, 10:33 AM
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Major General Group: Members Posts: 3,441 Joined: April 7th 2006 From: Bucharest, Romania Member No.: 11,622 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Pitry @ Jan 1st 2007, 5:06 PM) Hmm.. it might very well be my inability to seperate SG1 Rodney from SGA Rodney, but even watchign 48 Hours and Redemption, I lvoe him There is a difference though... Do you love him after (re-)watching the two episodes now? Or, did you love him after you watched the two episodes then, when Atlantis was still two years away...? |
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| Pitry |
Jan 3rd 2007, 11:15 AM
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Colonel Group: Members Posts: 1,785 Joined: February 19th 2003 From: Israel Member No.: 745 Gender: Female |
QUOTE(KillerMarv @ Jan 3rd 2007, 5:33 PM) There is a difference though... Do you love him after (re-)watching the two episodes now? Or, did you love him after you watched the two episodes then, when Atlantis was still two years away...? That's what I said in being unable to seperate it - I don't remember. For example, to borrow from Torchwood, I love Jack in Torchwood but dind't care for him much in Doctor Who. This I can say. - but I can';t asy it about Rodney because I don't remember... I suspect there's a good chance I missed 48Hours swhen it aired here and that I was too much on the "argh! No Daniel!" mood in Redemption to notifce him |
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| AtheneBelle |
Jan 3rd 2007, 2:13 PM
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Airman  Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: January 11th 2005 Member No.: 7,548 Gender: Female |
As I was watching the episode I found myself thinking to how science and religion/spirituality are seen a incompatible in RL and how McKay might have been feeding into it in his own mind (and example being his desire to just say goodbye rather than try and find some way to ascend).
It's been really interesting to see that come out. |
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| Lagger |
Jan 9th 2007, 10:24 PM
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Chief Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: June 25th 2005 Member No.: 9,349 Gender: Not Telling |
hmmph.... i always thought the machine would do that to him...
and now dadealus has improved sheilds, they can get more power outta their zpm  and who knows what else he did (which he cant remember he did now) |
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| J&S4Ever |
Jan 10th 2007, 12:56 PM
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Master Sergeant  Group: Members Posts: 310 Joined: February 21st 2005 From: Pharr, Texas Member No.: 8,176 Gender: Female |
Just shoot me. I recently watched this episode and although the conflict was interesting, it was just too much Rodney.
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| chelle_b |
Jan 10th 2007, 7:56 PM
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Airman Basic  Group: Members Posts: 22 Joined: February 17th 2006 Member No.: 11,197 Gender: Female |
I so loved this episode. Rodney is one of my favourite characters in Atlantis and of all the Rodney-centric eppys this one has to be the best (along with Grace under Pressure....40 solid minutes of Rodneyisms....amazing).
Excellent acting all round and even the tearful scenes (like round Rodney's beside) were done in a way so that they were not soppy or seeming forced. I'm going to go watch it again right now |
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| Jade |
Jan 23rd 2007, 7:24 AM
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Airman First Class  Group: Members Posts: 64 Joined: January 30th 2006 Member No.: 11,026 Gender: Female |
a very good Rodney episode. lol everytime he is in trouble, and panicking. The ending was abit rushed, how he suddenly figure out a solution. I could never see he ascending, I think not even the Acient can handle him. They would probably all want to desend if he join the acient club
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| Baggers. |
Jan 30th 2007, 4:42 PM
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Baggers.  Group: Members Posts: 755 Joined: September 26th 2006 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 12,573 Gender: Male |
QUOTE(Jade @ Jan 23rd 2007, 12:24 PM) a very good Rodney episode. lol everytime he is in trouble, and panicking. The ending was abit rushed, how he suddenly figure out a solution. I could never see he ascending, I think not even the Acient can handle him. They would probably all want to desend if he join the acient club one of the better episodes of the season, i do like rodney but he can get a little irritating sometimes, so as long as sheppard is there to keep him in check then all is well. i thought the whole weir part was a bit lame, but most of her scenes usually are anyways. As for him ascending, could you imagine it, he'd be telling all the ancients where they went wrong with most of their tech. i'm sure that would go down like a lead balloon. This post has been edited by baggers1982: Jan 30th 2007, 4:44 PM |
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| Dafmeister |
Jan 31st 2007, 4:09 PM
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General  Group: Moderators Posts: 11,926 Joined: April 10th 2003 From: North Wales, UK Member No.: 1,340 Gender: Male |
I loved this episode, it's perhaps one of the best this season. The Zelenka-Rodney exchanges were as good as always and it was good to see Zelenka have more of a role, he is such an under used character. McKay's thank you to Zelenka was pretty touching, along with the ways he said thank you to the other members. After everything that he admitted to Zelenka, I'm wondering if he will go back to how he was.
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| Parmenides |
Jan 31st 2007, 4:50 PM
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Birds ate his face.  Group: Donating Members Posts: 1,339 Joined: October 22nd 2004 From: Glezgae, Shkotlan' Member No.: 6,770 Gender: Male |
One of the best episodes of the season, for sure. So much hilarity, yet poignant at the same time.
All the characters got some good moments with Rodders, which was nice. Some of the more touching scenes were Teyla and the tea (I do like her stout teas!  ), his apology to Zelenka, Ronan's scars, and the failed meditations with Shep. So much good back and forth banter! I really liked Weir's talks with Rodney about ascension. She seemed so wise, and concerned. I for one think that the solution to Rodney came on the brink of his ascension - we know that he was capable of ascending, so perhaps when he was "floating in the void", he instantaneously had access to ascended knowledge, and so was able to solve his predicament - without fulling ascending. I don't know, that's just the first thing that sprung to mind. Definitely a rewatchable episode. |
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| 38_mins moo |
Feb 1st 2007, 11:27 AM
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Senior Airman  Group: Members Posts: 110 Joined: February 6th 2006 From: Scotland Member No.: 11,114 Gender: Male |
My favourite episode of the season so far. The best episodes seem to focus more on Mckay.
David Hewlett is a great actor and it shows especially in his scenes with David Nkyl. Enjoyable parts were Rodney's ability to read Weir and Sheppards minds and converse with himself! |
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| Auntie Em! |
Feb 4th 2007, 12:21 AM
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Sipping on fine wine!  Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
I agree that the Zelinka/Rodney scene was absolutely great. I cried. Zelinka was so taken aback with what Rodney said. If you look at what Rodney said about himself it is exactly what most people here on the forum bitch about, about the character. I loved it!
Rodney and Ronan moment. The very fact that Rodney asked how the scars made Ronan feel before he did what he did showed that it was important to Rodney that what he did would also be important to Ronan. Rodney did not do it just because Rodney thought it was what Ronan needed. I agree with Parm, it definately is one of the best episodes this season. |
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| JC1 |
Feb 6th 2007, 5:23 PM
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Captain  Group: Members Posts: 950 Joined: January 13th 2003 From: Dublin, Ireland Member No.: 342 Gender: Male |
This was better than I thought it would be. I don't dislike Mckay, but he does irritate sometimes.
It was intresting to see him trying to be nice for a change. About the whole ascension thing, didn't Daniel say once Kalik reached a certain percentage on the ascendo-meter, he could just will himself to ascend. When Carter asked about the spiritual side, Daniel said it was only neccesary when an Ancient was helping to ascend someone. So why couldn't Mckay will himself to ascend? |
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| Auntie Em! |
Feb 6th 2007, 7:11 PM
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Sipping on fine wine! Group: Donating Members Posts: 5,918 Joined: March 22nd 2005 From: Northwestern Ontario, Canada Member No.: 8,565 Gender: Female |
I think because it was an Ancient device helping Rodney to ascend. So in essence it was Rodney being helped to ascend by an ancient.
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| Revan |
Feb 6th 2007, 7:41 PM
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Dark Lord of The Sith Group: Moderators Posts: 4,455 Joined: February 1st 2006 From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., Terra Firma Member No.: 11,056 Gender: Male |
Rodney didn't want to ascend... in the end, he was capable of it, he just chose to keep on living the way he had been.
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