He might have been one of the original creators of the Asurans, and he was trying to create a better version, not better like more advanced but simpler and more controlable, maybe in the hopes of defeating the Wraith?

I felt that this was an excellent episode.....I do see the potenial for one furture storyline, a repeat of history if you will.....could the Assurian<sp?> race divide and go into civil war.....much the same way the Ancient's and Ori did?? There is so many ways they could take this....i hope the writers don't screw it up!

It would just kind of suck if they did the same thing with Atlantis as they did with Sg-1, where the replicators took out a lot of the Goa'uld and then Sg-1 beat the replicators at the last minute, It be a way to beat all the Wraith but then it'd be too much the same as Sg-1 and it'd be boring.

heres an idea wat if they went the way of the borg(like) and started merging with wrath ( dont have a reason y jsut thought it would be interesting) i thought aobut htis befor i read the thing aobut weir trying to merge with the guy. tell me wat yall think

They replicate, not assimilate!



This post has been edited by Gate Jumper: Aug 12th 2006, 2:41 AM

Yes, this was another re-hash of SG-1. As I have pointed out on several occasions, most strories are re-hashes of SG-1. I guess the writers think we are too stupid to notice.

If anybody has ever seen the movie 'The Thrill of it all', with James Garner and Doris Day, you know exactly what I am talking about, the scene in the movie "the public will never notice".

When I saw those hive ships pounding Atlantis, I was like: "B-b-but it's not even the end of the season..." I felt releaved when I realised that it was just replicators, but than I was like "oh, nooooo"
This really was recycle of SG-1 story. But let's be fair - how many stories without any resemblance to previous eisodes can writers create? Altogether sg1 and sga have more than 200 episodes...

i liked:
- the flying city (but what's up with the shield)
- the extended antient city
- rodney and john's time debate

i didn't like:
- still nothing on Teyla's character, come on people, give us SOMETHING...
- the effect that the flying city had when it took off - what was that about, was it like water? then half of remaining city would be under water after each lift off - impractical from my POV.
- why can't rodney take a vacation or get ill or something, so we can see Zelenka in "action". I understand that lots of their problems can be solved technologicaly, but does it allways have to be rodney? Little diversity wouldn't kill anybody. Or does David Hewlett have special contract for being the only smart guy in Atlantis...

Overall nice ep with new old enemy.

This post has been edited by DrM007: Aug 12th 2006, 7:06 AM

All I have to say is wow That was probably one of the greatest episodes yet in Atlantis. We finally got to see the city fly and man was it cool and we saw an ancient battle scence which was also cool and the huge ancient city filled with many atlantis looking buildings. But of course a dumb reason why they don't get a zpm. But there were a few things that didn't add up though. In critical mass 1 zpm could have destroyed the whole planet(at least I thought so) and in this one they had to use all 3 to destroy a city and couldn't even take one of them. And another thing I'm assuming that the ancient were getting there butts kicked by the wraith when they made the nanites but when the project went too far they obliderated them (or at least they thought) with lots of Auroa/Orion ships. Wouldn't it have been better to let the nanites go on there merry way and keep those ships and let the nanites kill the wraith. That was the only part that didn't add up. They aggresivly destroyed the replicators which would have cost the ancients many lives cuz the replicators had ancient knowledge but wouldn't go all out for the wraith? That just didn't seem very "ancienty" to me. And why wouldn't they reprogram their code instead of just destroying them. They were living breathing life forms no matter how you see it. I don't think the ancients had the right to just destroy them. Now this is kinda like Battlestar Galactica with the creation out to kill the creators. But overall it was a good episode.

sorry if this is kina long its just that these things have been bugging me.

I had the same thought as others when the city exploding had no effect on the planet. It was in orbit, but 3 zpm's only blew up the city they were powering? Something doesn't add up. Maybe it had something to do with the shields being up at the time?? Anyhow, I must say I like the potential in this storyline. It did feel like they cut out chunks of the story to fit it into 1 hour. Some things were just too convenient, but another real enemy is just what this series needs.

the asurians havent seen earth resourcefulness, sort of naive in a way....

but now they have next time they come they wont be soo stupid, or trusting..

3 zpm's hardly did anything.. and he needed all 3...!!!

maybe he only used the zpm's to overload something else??

While i loved seeing the city that was a copy of atlantis, I did not like the fact that they've intoduced more replicators, It's already been seen & done in season 6. I hope they can destroy or just forget about this enemy for awhile and move on to better things

They wont be able to just forget about them if they stay evil, I mean Niam said there were millions of them, back in Sg-1 there was maybe five human formed replicators running around at the most, and now these replicators have the probably unlimited power and resources of the ancient technology, way bigger threat than the Wraith.

Okay....YAY it was a good episode.

I loved watching Atlantis explode. But then I was like "Wait...if there's no Atlantis or Sheppard....why would there still be a Stargate Atlantis..."

ANYWAY.

I'm a bit sad though.

I'll tell you why.

This episode was a kind of rip-off of SG-1 and the replicators. Boo.

And next week looks like a rip-off of season 3's Legacy where Daniel went insane.

C'mon writers...................THINK OF SOMETHING!

Is it just me or could the team have stole the 3 ZPM's at the end of the ep and the Replicator city-ship would have been totally without power and defenseless!? Shoot a few drones at it and BOOM!

Anyway, even for a revisited plot, I thought that this ep was fantastic! We got to see a Lantean city-ship fly and see some super cool warships......

I thought the whole scene where the Wraith found and bombarded Atlantis was cool too.....Sad to see Sheppard stay behind.

Two thumbs up for me!

Maybe they had explosion supression technology that was on a different power source (maybe a battery backup or something?), even with as powerful as ZPM's are, I wouldn't expect them to keep them as the only power source in the city, if there were a problem in that room or something (sabotage or whatever) it would leave them entirely defenseless then.

Taking all 3 zpms and powering up Atlantis to full power was not the plan, duh?

It'd take the whole plot out of the show, trying to find zpm's. They already have the technology so they dont need to look for it, just the batterys.

I didn't mind the Replicator storyline. Actually, I didn't see that one coming.

I found them interesting because they seemed to blend Ancient, human, and machine within one entity. The interest that some of them had in Ascension shows that there will ultimately be a moral dilemma concerning their destruction. I don't think it's fair to say that they are strictly machines anymore.

I really liked this episode alot and really liked the view of atlantis getting blown away, and seeing the city of asura. The only thing that keeps bugging me is the enemy itself. I mean of all things why did they have to bring back the replicators? I know this version of them is different than from sg-1 but in all its still the same only with ancient technology. I would have liked to see brand new enemies, but in overall the episode was pretty good.

Someone elaborate this for me......

1. Isn't the puddle jumper technically a replicator device? Wouldn't it have some traces of replicator technology in it, or were the replicators (not going to /couldn't) improve the puddle jumper?

2. Why was the person in space completely ignored?

3. If replicators hate alterrans so much, why emulate them?

This is something I didn't even think of. Rather than overload the systems and make the city blow up they could have just taken all the power sources, told atlantis to raise the shield and then just taken care of the city with squids.

I loved this episode!

And i hope they build them up, hopefully playing on the sometimes ally sometimes enemy storyline.

It also adds a nice little twist with theres planet with millions of people.

Imagine if the Ori could replicate there followers???

And if they have evolved how about a wraith Virus esque weapon to make them edible and send the hive ships at them!

Who knows!

Last thought, is Ford going to make a return, or is he gone for good??

funny part;

Niam:Your minds are no longer being probed.
Shepard: Good to know it was just are minds.
McKay: Oh, please don't make me sick.

The city structure was incredible!!!!!!

Has anyone thought that maybe the reason why the explosion was so small was because the 'ZPM'S' weren't normal ZPM's?

These are replicators, yes a different version, but still they are replicators. If they are linked to SG-1s replicators then they have the ability to power themselves and wouldn't they be able to create anything they wanted if the blocks are nanite sized?

If so then whats the guessing that the Cityship was made out of these blocks and wasn't powered by ZPM, Which were just for show anyway and didn't do sh*t?

This post has been edited by dr lee: Aug 12th 2006, 3:10 PM

That actually makes perfect sense...The Ancients destroyed the entire city and they very well could have took all of the ZPM's before they destroyed the city. The reps created everything in their city, including them, in their creators likeness so it would just make sense that they created their power supply to look like their creators power supply.
Nice thinking buddy..